calpsafltskeds wrote:The 764 should cover all but one deep SA route for sure. 764 flies EWR-HNL with a higher wind component than SA. EWR-HNL is 4312NM. The 764 has flown IAH-FRA at 4547NM and currently flies EWR-EZE 4597nm, which is longer than IAH-EZE/SCL.
ORD-EZE is probably out of the 764 range at 4868nm. Any potential future SFO-deep SA service is over 5600NM and out of 764 range. Note: the 78X has a 800+nm longer range than the 764 and could operate all possible SA routes..
UA has announced EWR-Naples IT/Prague CR, IAD-TLV and SFO-AMS that will take a 4 to 6 widebodies to operate.
While the 764 can cover all but one deep SA route it is not the right aircraft for those routes. UA ships a lot of cargo to and from SA and on our EWR-EZE-EWR route we are routinely weight restricted and forced to route cargo through IAH on the 77E. While in the past flown IAH-FRA-IAH with the 764 one of the reasons it was pulled from that route was because we were leaving cargo behind in FRA do to weight restrictions. I think the only reason why UA still utilizes the 764 on EWR-EZE-EWR route is because IAH-EZE-IAH can cover the cargo that is left behind. It is not unusual to to see 40,000-50,000 pounds of cargo plus the bags on EZE-IAH that same cargo that was held off the EWR flight once it clears customs in IAH is then loaded on either the 77E or 763 from IAH to EWR.
The 764 is probably the perfect aircraft for 4500NM+ routes where there is little to no cargo on on routes that are not pushing it the aircraft to its limits. If you need to move 240 passengers at a time from EWR, IAD, or ORD to Europe this is a great aircaft for passengers and cargo. Personally I think as the high J Polaris/Premium Plus 763s start rolling out the 764s for sure will be found on several ORD-Europe routes during the summer (one perhaps two of our ORD-LHR routes(UA958, UA938), AMS and FCO). However on routes like those to and from deep SA or IAH-Germany the right aircraft for those routes is either the 763 or the 77E it all depends on which hub your flying from.