Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

flee · Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:52 pm

I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!

Geoff1947 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:29 pm

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flee wrote:
I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!

And from me too. We’d be much poorer without Karel’s great information.

Geoff

SQ22 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:45 pm

With the new year it is on time to open a new thread.

Link to previous thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=607139

BOEING777EK · Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Whats the A350 delivery target for Airbus this year?

Geoff1947 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:42 pm

So we no longer have a thread to discuss 2017 deliveries then !

Geoff

SQ22 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:45 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
So we no longer have a thread to discuss 2017 deliveries then !

Geoff

Well I think we can discuss the remaining 2017 delivieries in this thread, that should not be an issue.

bycac · Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:42 pm

Happy new year !!!

MoKa777 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:12 pm

Thanks for keeping this going! I look forward to more information coming to light about the -1000 with testing and certification almost done and operational service on the horizon.

Waterbomber · Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:26 pm

Could someone share an estimated timeline on the first JL A359, ie final assembly, first flight, delivery?
Thanks.

That Air China looks great.

Cebo29 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:12 am

Check the A350 production website on line...your answer lies there...enjoy

carljanderson · Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:23 am

Waterbomber wrote:
Could someone share an estimated timeline on the first JL A359, ie final assembly, first flight, delivery?
Thanks.

That Air China looks great.

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

MSN321.

777Mech · Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:01 am

Just an update on the upcoming DL deliveries, MSN 182 is scheuled to deliver to ATL on Feb 15th, MSN 190 on Feb 28th, and MSN 199 on Mar 31st.

Looking onward, the 12th delivery won't be until February of 2019.

BobMUC · Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:51 am

Haven't seen it posted:
A very nice documentary bye PilotsEye.tv of Lufthansa's first A350 flight from MUC to BOS including many recordings about the A350 production processes/facilities, test center, etc.

Video 1 of 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drlbdusJqgs

Happy New Year to everybody!

tvh · Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:16 am

Counting msn 60 as delivered in dec 2017 I see 9 delivered in december for a total of 78.
First time I see december not being the best month of the year, which could be seen as progress.
Though airbus would have liked delivering more to qatar and china for sure.

KarelXWB · Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:17 am

tvh wrote:
First time I see december not being the best month of the year, which could be seen as progress.

Yes, it seems some A350s were offloaded in November already.

Still, for Airbus in general, December 2017 is a new record month with more than 110 civil aircraft deliveries.

StTim · Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:18 am

Interesting the quick speedtape repair on the fairing. Does that impact departure reliability?

StTim · Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:43 am

Does anyone know what the test flying for the ULR will be? Does the first frame require significant test instrumentation? How many flying hours will be required?

TheLion · Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:02 pm

bycac wrote:
Happy new year !!!

That actually looks like a Dreamliner, somehow! It’s the livery which tricks the eye...

Geoff1947 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:22 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
tvh wrote:
First time I see december not being the best month of the year, which could be seen as progress.

Yes, it seems some A350s were offloaded in November already.

Still, for Airbus in general, December 2017 is a new record month with more than 110 civil aircraft deliveries.

As Airbus are headed for 10/month during 2018, the November and December numbers should become the norm. At least I’m hopeful there won’t be a January slump this year.

Geoff

StTim · Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:28 pm

I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year. There are many more in the advanced stages of testing on the flightline.

My forecast (guess) would be 6 to 7.

KarelXWB · Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:19 pm

According to @A350_Production on Twitter, China Eastern Airlines will configure its A350s as follows:

- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
- 32 Premium Economy (2-4-2)
- 216 Economy (3-3-3)

Total: 288 seats

Via https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 1387509760

Jayafe · Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:28 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...

Am I missing the logic?

KarelXWB · Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:26 pm

Jayafe wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...

Am I missing the logic?

Similar to Malaysia Airlines' A350 First/Business class cabin I guess.

Revelation · Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:32 pm

MoKa777 wrote:
Thanks for keeping this going! I look forward to more information coming to light about the -1000 with testing and certification almost done and operational service on the horizon.

EASA certifies higher-weight A350-1000 -- https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 000-444543

311t version is now certified.

MoKa777 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:41 pm

Jayafe wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...

Am I missing the logic?

Pretty "normal" if you think about it.

SQ has had 1-2-1 in both F and J on their 77W for a decade.

EY has the same arrangement.

F is full-sized 1-2-1 and J is more dense and creative (think staggered, herringbone, etc.) 1-2-1.

MoKa777 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:08 pm

Revelation wrote:
MoKa777 wrote:
Thanks for keeping this going! I look forward to more information coming to light about the -1000 with testing and certification almost done and operational service on the horizon.

EASA certifies higher-weight A350-1000 -- https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 000-444543

311t version is now certified.

Thanks for the link, Revelation.

Arion640 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:25 pm

Jayafe wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
...
- 4 First Class Suites (1-2-1)
- 36 Business Class (1-2-1)
...

Am I missing the logic?

EK had this till recently and it's still presenr on the A380.

Eyad89 · Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:53 pm

StTim wrote:
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year. There are many more in the advanced stages of testing on the flightline.

My forecast (guess) would be 6 to 7.

And the delivery of the first A35K is pretty much a given as well in this month. So I guess they should easily deliver more than 6.

redcap1962 · Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:21 am

Editing my TLS-photos from last September I came across a mismatch between msn & F-reg. on a Cathay-A350:

According to all sources F-WZNO would be msn 155, but msn 154 would be F-WZNQ.... :roll:

Can somebody shed some light on this and figure out which aircraft this actually is? Photo taken on Sept. 25, 2017.

THX, redcap1962

KarelXWB · Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:23 am

MSN 154 = F-WZNQ
MSN 155 = F-WZNO

Sometimes, the wrong test registration is applied to the fuselage during assembly. It gets fixed before first flight. Here is a photo of MSN 154 with correct registration F-WZNQ:

F-WZNQ Airbus A350 Cathay Pacific, first flight by @Eurospot, on Flickr

frigatebird · Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:33 am

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 154 = F-WZNQ
MSN 155 = F-WZNO

Sometimes, the wrong test registration is applied to the fuselage during assembly. It gets fixed before first flight. Here is a photo of MSN 154 with correct registration F-WZNQ:

F-WZNQ Airbus A350 Cathay Pacific, first flight by @Eurospot, on Flickr

Fortunately an easy fix, just add some black tape to the letter O :lol:

scotron11 · Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:22 am

Cannot wait to see the 1st CX A350-1000 roll out and 1st flight! Their livery on the A350 looks great!

itisi · Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:00 pm

scotron11 wrote:
Cannot wait to see the 1st CX A350-1000 roll out and 1st flight! Their livery on the A350 looks great!

Agreed, then again the 350 is such a good looking plane it's hard to look bad!! The one I like least has to be QR.....

Slug71 · Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:09 pm

Things have been pretty quiet on the -1000 front again. Wonder if MSN 88 required some software updates following the visit to MKE by one of the test aircraft.
According to the production list, 8 A35Ks should be out of the FAL already.

BOAC1966 · Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:24 pm

Yes very slow with little test flying and Qatar -1000 whipped off for more rework. After what appeared to be a good test programme there are bound to be the odd hicup! It was interesting they needed that MKE visit lasting over a week. Three weeks to month end and a delivery!

KarelXWB · Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:24 pm

MSN 184 LH #8 has rolled out to the flight line.

hkcanadaexpat · Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:37 pm

MSN 181 (TG#9) is firing its engines for the first time this afternoon.
Conflicting reports about the same for MSN 180 (ET#7) this morning and MSN 182 (DL#7) yesterday.

StTim · Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:57 pm

It seems the holidays are over in TLS.

scotron11 · Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:39 pm

Interesting to note that CX has stated their intentions of where their A350-1000s will be flying but not a peep out of QR.

KarelXWB · Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:59 pm

StTim wrote:
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year.

Not really difficult to beat that single delivery of January 2017.

RichardWelling · Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:47 am

scotron11 wrote:
Interesting to note that CX has stated their intentions of where their A350-1000s will be flying but not a peep out of QR.

My guess it will be LHR or FRA/MUC like when the A359 was released.

KarelXWB · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:16 am

MSN 197 VN #12 and MSN 198 OZ #5 parked outside the assembly halls, undergoing outdoor ground tests at Stations 18:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Toulous ... tSpotting/

KarelXWB · Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:19 am

MSN 180 ET #7 has been named "Gelada Baboon".

Flightline by theo franchi, on Flickr

KarelXWB · Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:46 am

MSN 182 DL #7 first flight: https://fr24.com/AIB01FW/10097fa5

KarelXWB · Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:05 pm

MSN 179 CI #11 second flight: https://fr24.com/AIB02NX/10098559

Eyad89 · Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:06 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
StTim wrote:
I think January will be less than par - BUT it will be a few more than the one delivered in January last year.

Not really difficult to beat that single delivery of January 2017.

LOL, can’t argue with that.

FromCDGtoSYD · Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:41 pm

RichardWelling wrote:
scotron11 wrote:
Interesting to note that CX has stated their intentions of where their A350-1000s will be flying but not a peep out of QR.

My guess it will be LHR or FRA/MUC like when the A359 was released.

Or CDG

hkcanadaexpat · Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:11 pm

MSN 177 (TG#8) just completed its RTO.

FA9295 · Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:34 pm

itisi wrote:
scotron11 wrote:
Cannot wait to see the 1st CX A350-1000 roll out and 1st flight! Their livery on the A350 looks great!

Agreed, then again the 350 is such a good looking plane it's hard to look bad!! The one I like least has to be QR.....

That's probably because QR was the first to obtain the A350, so everyone wants to see newer A350 liveries instead... :smile:

marcelh · Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:13 pm

FA9295 wrote:
....so everyone wants to see newer A350 liveries instead...

KLM......

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