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TW870
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:06 am

Runway28L wrote:
B712 N969AT ferrying ATL-SBD right now. Is this the first B712 to be stored?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N969AT


I have not read anywhere that 717 fleet reductions are going to begin. In the widebody thread, a couple posters have commented that in addition to the 2 764s and 1 A330 going into storage for the winter for power by the hour/engine overhaul reasons, 3 717s are also going to be down for the winter. I would guess that has to do with overhaul schedules and accounting. SBD is a better place to put airplanes than ATL for the winter. I cannot confirm this, though, and so perhaps one of the knowledgeable DL posters could weigh in here.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:35 am

TW870 wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
B712 N969AT ferrying ATL-SBD right now. Is this the first B712 to be stored?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N969AT


I have not read anywhere that 717 fleet reductions are going to begin. In the widebody thread, a couple posters have commented that in addition to the 2 764s and 1 A330 going into storage for the winter for power by the hour/engine overhaul reasons, 3 717s are also going to be down for the winter. I would guess that has to do with overhaul schedules and accounting. SBD is a better place to put airplanes than ATL for the winter. I cannot confirm this, though, and so perhaps one of the knowledgeable DL posters could weigh in here.


The rumor I’ve heard is that 717’s requiring engine overhauls are being temporarily parked. This allows DL to reduce capacity for the season, then complete the overhauls before the aircraft are RTS before S19.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:47 am

Runway28L wrote:
B712 N969AT ferrying ATL-SBD right now. Is this the first B712 to be stored?
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N969AT


The first of 2 to be stored, that one is 9531 and it will be joined by 9537 (975AT) in a few weeks.

It's for engine savings, and they should RTS in the summer of '19
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:27 pm

75D N659DL no longer has SkyTeam paint. Now in normal colors.
 
UGA777
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:30 pm

Does anyone know why 717 N987AT is sitting near the hangar in ATL with engines off and windows/doors all taped up? I’m showing it has not flown since September.
 
n515cr
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:49 pm

7006 is on ferry flights to SIN. Suspect it's going for 7HD mods. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n865da
9239 ferrying to BYH for retirement. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n939dn
9249 ferrying to BYH for retirement. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n949dn
3906 entered service on Nov 14. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N906DN

In the interest of shortening the list to a more manageable post size, I have removed the lists of completed fleets. MD lists are still included due to active retirements.
*******************************************************************************************
Fleet Mod Status 15 Nov 2018


777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD/7HB (J28W48Y220)
777-200ER (becomes 7HD): 2/8 complete (+2 in mod)
N860DA 7001
N861DA 7002
N862DA 7003
N863DA 7004 (entered Feb 17 2018; finished June 6 2018)
N864DA 7005 (entered Sept 18 2018; finished Oct 22 2018)
N865DA 7006 (entered Nov 16 2018; est. exit Dec 21 2018)
N866DA 7007 (entered Oct 24 2018; est. exit late Nov 2018)
N867DA 7008

777-200LR (becomes 7HB): 1/10 complete (+0 in mod)
N701DN 7101
N702DN 7102
N703DN 7103
N704DK 7104
N705DN 7105
N706DN 7106 (entered Sept 6 2018; finished Nov 1 2018)
N707DN 7107
N708DN 7108
N709DN 7109
N710DN 7110


757 Status [Complete]
757-300: Complete (5801-5816)
75E -> 75S: Complete (6801-6818)
75A/75M -> 75H: Complete (5635-5649)
757/75X -> 75C: Complete (649-652, 654-655, 661-664, 666)
757/75X/75M -> 75D: Complete (658-660, 665, 667-676, 678-699, 5650-5657, 6700-6717)
Ex-Shanghai -> 75G: Complete (6819-6823)

Current configurations:
75S – C16W44Y108 (PMDL, International/JFK-CA, flatbeds in C, Satellite WiFi, PTVs)
75D – F20W29Y150 (AVOD/Sat TV, ISP, WiFi, new lavs/galleys/bins/PSUs/LED lighting)
75H – F20W29Y150 (AVOD/Sat TV, ISP, Satellite WiFi, new lavs/galleys/bins/PSUs/LED lighting, ETOPS)
75P – F20W41Y132 (AVOD/Sat TV, ISP, WiFi, new lavs/seats/galleys/bins/PSUs/LED lighting, winglets, and ETOPS)
75C – F72 (NBA/Charter configuration)


737 Status
73W – LED mood lighting, soft bulkhead between Y and F, 2Ku
738 – AVOD, updated lavs, and LED cabin lighting, 2Ku
739 – scimitar winglets (not all), Sat TV, 2Ku eventually

73W Cabin Refresh, awaiting 2Ku WiFi? (3601-3610)
Completed: 10/10


737-800 Mods [COMPLETE]
738: 43/43 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3701-4743)
73H: 30/30 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3744-3773)
73A v2 (Ex-GOL) IFE/ISP mods: 2/4 (+1 in mod). All have 2Ku WiFi
N775DE 3775 (ex-PR-GXG, entered Mar 2, 2018; finished May 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N776DE 3776 (ex-PR-GXK, entered Sep 1, 2018; finished Oct 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377DE 3777 (ex-PR-GXO, entered Oct 19, 2018; est. exit Dec 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.

73A (Ex-GOL): 1
N774DE 3774 (ex-PR-GUW, entered Apr 7, 2017; finished Jun 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Interim config has Sky Interior with F16W30Y108, 2Ku, and streaming IFE, but no AVOD/ISP.


737-900ER Scimitar Upgrades/Sat TV/Induction: 76 complete, 30 without scimitar upgrade, 23 on order, 1 in mod. All have 2Ku WiFi (3801-3906)
N907DN 3907 (entered Nov 9, 2018; est. exit Nov 18, 2018)


Airbus Mods/Induction
A319: F12W18Y96 -> F12W18Y102, AVOD, 2Ku
A320: F12W18Y120 -> P1: F16W18Y126 / P2: F16W18Y123
A321: induction (F20W29Y140)

A319: 57/57 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi, (3101-3102, 3114-3149, 3151-3155, 3157-3166, 3168-3171)

A320: P1: 1, P2: 58/62, 3 in mod. All have 2Ku WiFi
N309US 3209 P2: (entered Jan 13, 2018; finished Mar 1, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N312US 3212 P2: (entered Oct 31, 2017; finished Nov 24, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N317US 3217 P2: (entered Jul 5, 2017; finished Aug 11, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N319US 3219 P2: (entered Mar 9, 2018; finished Apr 6, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N320US 3220 P2: (entered Mar 2, 2018; finished Apr 6, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N321US 3221 P2: (entered Apr 30, 2018; finished May 25, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N322US 3222 P2: (entered Jun 24, 2018; finished Jul 19, 2018) – ATL. 2Ku WiFi.
N323US 3223 P2: (entered Jul 19, 2018; finished Aug 14, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N324US 3224 P2: (entered Aug 6, 2018; finished Sep 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N325US 3225 P2: (entered Oct 11, 2017; finished Nov 12, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N326US 3226 P2: (entered Sep 1, 2017; finished Oct 1, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N327NW 3227 P1: (entered Feb 3, 2017; finished Feb 26, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N328NW 3228 *P1: (entered Nov 5, 2018; finished Dec 5, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N329NW 3229 P2: (entered Oct 24, 2017; finished Nov 19, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N330NW 3230 P2: (entered Nov 16, 2017; finished Dec 11, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N331NW 3231 P2: (entered Jan 15, 2018; finished Feb 9, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N332NW 3232 P2: (entered Dec 21, 2017; finished Jan 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N333NW 3233 P2: (entered Nov 13, 2017; finished Dec 15, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N334NW 3234 P2: (entered Oct 2, 2017; finished Oct 28, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N335NW 3235 P2: (entered Dec 21, 2017; finished Jan 15, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N336NW 3236 P2: (entered May 28, 2018; finished Jun 23, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N337NW 3237 P2: (entered May 1, 2018; finished May 27, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N338NW 3238 *P1: (entered Oct 26, 2018; finished Nov 25, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi
N339NW 3239 P2: (entered Nov 19, 2017; finished Dec 15, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N340NW 3240 P2: (entered Apr 11, 2017; finished May 14, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N341NW 3241 P2: (entered Sep 9, 2018; finished Oct 14, 2018) – ATL. 2Ku WiFi.
N342NW 3242 P2: (entered Oct 14, 2018; finished Nov 10, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N343NW 3243 P2: (entered Sep 11, 2017; finished Oct 10, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N344NW 3244 P2: (entered Apr 25, 2016; finished May 25, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N345NW 3245 P2: (entered Dec 15, 2017; finished Jan 12, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N347NW 3247 P2: (entered Jun 3, 2017; finished Jul 3, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N348NW 3248 P2: (entered Jun 16, 2017; finished Jul 18, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N349NW 3249 P2: (entered Aug 1, 2017; finished Aug 30, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N350NA 3250 P2: (entered Nov 2, 2017; finished Dec 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N351NW 3251 P2: (entered Oct 11, 2018; finished Nov 5, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N352NW 3252 P2: (entered Sep 8, 2017; finished Oct 4, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N353NW 3253 P2: (entered May 16, 2017; finished Jun 16, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N354NW 3254 P2: (entered Apr 10, 2017; finished May 13, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N355NW 3255 P2: (entered Oct 5, 2017; finished Oct 31, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N356NW 3256 P2: (entered May 16, 2017; finished Jun 17, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N357NW 3257 P2: (entered Aug 11, 2017; finished Sep 11, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N358NW 3258 P2: (entered May 3, 2017; finished Jun 3, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N359NW 3259 P2: (entered Sep 27, 2017; finished Oct 24, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N360NW 3260 P2: (entered Dec 15, 2017; finished Jan 10, 2018) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N361NW 3261 P2: (entered Feb 12, 2018; finished Mar 9, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N362NW 3262 P2: (entered Apr 6, 2018; finished May 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N363NW 3263 P2: (entered Feb 11, 2018; finished Mar 8, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N364NW 3264 P2: (entered Nov 24, 2017; finished Dec 20, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N365NW 3265 P2: (entered Jan 17, 2018; finished Feb 11, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N366NW 3266 P2: (entered Mar 10, 2018; finished Apr 5, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N367NW 3267 P2: (entered Apr 6, 2018; finished Apr 30, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N368NW 3268 P2: (entered Apr 6, 2018; finished May 1, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N369NW 3269 P2: (entered May 2, 2018; finished Jun 1, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N370NW 3270 P2: (entered Jun 1, 2018; finished Jun 30, 2016) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N371NW 3271 P2: (entered July 4, 2018; finished Aug 3, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N372NW 3272 P2: (entered Sep 2, 2018; finished Oct 9, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N373NW 3273 *P1: (entered Nov 10, 2018; est. exit Dec 10, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N374NW 3274 P2: (entered Sep 21, 2018; finished Oct 26, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N375NC 3275 P2: (entered Sep 2, 2017; finished Sep 27, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N376NW 3276 P2: (entered Oct 29, 2017; finished Nov 22, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377NW 3277 P2: (entered Aug 14, 2018; finished Sep 8, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N378NW 3278 P2: (entered Dec 11, 2016; finished Jan 26, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Mods being done at SAL, ATL, and MSP

A320s retirements: 7/7, (3210-3211, 3213-3216, 3218)


A321: 64/122 +1 in mod, (3001-3064)
N365DN 3065 (entered Nov 8, 2018; est. exit Nov 20, 2018). 2Ku WiFi.
N366DN 3066 On Order -
N367DN 3067 On Order -
N368DN 3068 On Order -
N369DN 3069 On Order -


B717 Mods: 91/91 complete, (9500-9589, 9594)
Mods: DL seating config, WiFi, ISP


MD-90s: 65 total
Active MD-90s: 44
N905DA 9205
N906DA 9206
N907DA 9207
N908DA 9208
N909DA 9209
N910DN 9210
N911DA 9211
N912DN 9212
N913DN 9213
N914DN 9214
N915DN 9215
N917DN 9217
N918DH 9218
N919DN 9219
N920DN 9220
N921DN 9221
N922DX 9222
N923DN 9223
N924DN 9224
N925DN 9225
N926DH 9226
N927DN 9227
N928DN 9228
N929DN 9229
N930DN 9230
N931DN 9231
N934DN 9234
N935DN 9235
N936DN 9236
N940DN 9240
N941DN 9241
N942DN 9242
N943DN 9243
N944DN 9244
N945DN 9245
N946DN 9246
N947DN 9247
N950DN 9250
N951DN 9251
N952DN 9252
N960DN 9260
N961DN 9261
N962DN 9262
N963DN 9263

Inactive MD-90s: 21 (w/ storage/retirement date)
N901DA 9201 10/1/2018
N902DA 9202 6/25/2017
N903DA 9203 9/2/2017
N904DA 9204 7/15/2018
N916DN 9216 3/23/2018
N932DN 9232 12/24/2017
N933DN 9233 8/29/2018
N937DN 9237 8/13/2018
N938DN 9238 11/12/2018
N939DN 9239 11/15/2018
N948DN 9248 10/14/2018
N949DN 9249 11/15/2018
N953DN 9253 6/3/2018
N954DN 9254 5/12/2018
N955DN 9255 4/15/2018
N956DN 9256 1/3/2018
N957DN 9257 2/28/2018
N958DN 9258 10/1/2017
N959DN 9259 1/15/2018
N964DN 9264 2/28/2018
N965DN 9265 7/11/2018


MD-88s: 120 total
Active MD-88s: 89
N904DL 904
N905DL 905
N906DL 906
N907DL 907
N908DL 908
N910DL 910
N911DL 911
N912DL 912
N913DL 913
N915DL 915
N916DL 916
N917DL 917
N922DL 922
N935DL 935
N936DL 936
N937DL 937
N945DL 945
N946DL 946
N947DL 947
N948DL 948
N949DL 949
N950DL 950
N951DL 951
N952DL 952
N953DL 953
N954DL 954
N955DL 955
N956DL 956
N957DL 957
N958DL 958
N959DL 959
N960DL 960
N961DL 961
N962DL 962
N963DL 963
N964DL 964
N965DL 965
N966DL 966
N967DL 967
N968DL 968
N969DL 969
N970DL 970
N971DL 971
N972DL 972
N973DL 973
N974DL 974
N975DL 975
N976DL 976
N977DL 977
N978DL 978
N979DL 979
N980DL 980
N981DL 981
N982DL 982
N983DL 983
N984DL 984
N985DL 985
N986DL 986
N987DL 987
N988DL 988
N989DL 989
N990DL 990
N991DL 991
N992DL 992
N993DL 993
N994DL 994
N995DL 995
N996DL 996
N997DL 997
N998DL 998
N999DN 999
N900DE 9000
N901DE 9001
N902DE 9002
N903DE 9003
N904DE 9004
N905DE 9005
N906DE 9006
N907DE 9007
N908DE 9008
N909DE 9009
N910DE 9010
N911DE 9011
N912DE 9012
N913DE 9013
N915DE 9015
N916DE 9016
N918DE 9018
N920DE 9020

Inactive MD-88s: 31 (w/ storage/retirement date)
N901DL 901 2007
N902DL 902
N903DL 903 2008
N909DL 909 3/05/2015 (written off)
N914DL 914 8/25/2018
N918DL 918 7/07/2018
N919DL 919 3/25/2018
N920DL 920 10/30/2017
N921DL 921 8/19/2018
N923DL 923 3/22/2018
N924DL 924 10/30/2018
N925DL 925 9/15/2017
N926DL 926 5/29/2018
N927DA 927 8/10/2018
N928DL 928 8/28/2017
N929DL 929 1/05/2018
N930DL 930 12/02/2017
N931DL 931 5/11/2018
N932DL 932 9/15/2018
N933DL 933 9/28/2018
N934DL 934 7/01/2018
N938DL 938 11/1/2018
N939DL 939 9/23/2018
N943DL 943 10/31/2018
N944DL 944 11/2/2018
N940DL 940 11/13/2017
N941DL 941
N942DL 942 9/7/2018
N914DE 9014 9/07/2017
N917DE 9017 10/20/2017
N919DE 9019 7/20/2018
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:19 am

Outstanding reporting as usual. The summaries are nice especially for the completed fleets. Perhaps you can keep track of the Number of Units in the 757 fleet in each variation as well as the overall 757 fleet as you seem to do for the other fleets. I know I know I can start adding up the fleet serial numbers but when there are different number ranges it is easy to loose track!
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:13 am

UGA777 wrote:
Does anyone know why 717 N987AT is sitting near the hangar in ATL with engines off and windows/doors all taped up? I’m showing it has not flown since September.


Short term storage for the winter for engine savings.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:38 am

Will any of the parked MD90s be re-activated or are they being scrapped upon withdrawal?
Did you know that a Boeing 717-200 is really a McDonnell Douglas MD95-30? ;-)
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:21 am

DeltaMD95 wrote:
Will any of the parked MD90s be re-activated or are they being scrapped upon withdrawal?


To my knowledge there are some that will come back eventually.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:47 am

DeltaMD95 wrote:
Will any of the parked MD90s be re-activated or are they being scrapped upon withdrawal?


All of them are still intact, minus their engines. So far, all are slated to return.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:05 am

MD88 N945DL ferried to SBD today: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n945dl
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:10 am

DeltaMD95 wrote:
Will any of the parked MD90s be re-activated or are they being scrapped upon withdrawal?


DL has no need for them. Don't expect them to return to service.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:56 am

Are they going to come-back in the sense to swap / align engines and airframes that still have time remaining before overhaul or are they going to re-activate net-additional MD-90s again?
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:33 am

MSPNWA wrote:
DeltaMD95 wrote:
Will any of the parked MD90s be re-activated or are they being scrapped upon withdrawal?


DL has no need for them. Don't expect them to return to service.


Then why not just go ahead scrap them? Your logic is flawed. All of the 90s parked right now haven't had any parts robbed off of them except the engines and TRs.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:09 am

777Mech wrote:
Then why not just go ahead scrap them? Your logic is flawed. All of the 90s parked right now haven't had any parts robbed off of them except the engines and TRs.


Gonna have to ask DL. Looks like parts aren't the problem--engines are. But we can be confident that they're not coming back, except for maybe a odd frame or two. New narrowbodies are here to relieve them of their duties.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:57 pm

3065 exited induction and has ferried to MSP to enter service: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N365DN
935 showing a ferry to SBD tomorrow for retirement: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n935dl
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:34 pm

*******************************************************************************************
Fleet Mod Status 21 Nov 2018

2 additional MD-88's retired from service and ferried to SBD (San Bernardino)

777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD/7HB (J28W48Y220)
777-200ER (becomes 7HD): 2/8 complete (+2 in mod)
N860DA 7001
N861DA 7002
N862DA 7003
N863DA 7004 (entered Feb 17 2018; finished June 6 2018)
N864DA 7005 (entered Sept 18 2018; finished Oct 22 2018)
N865DA 7006 (entered Nov 16 2018; est. exit Dec 21 2018)
N866DA 7007 (entered Oct 24 2018; est. exit late Nov 2018)
N867DA 7008

777-200LR (becomes 7HB): 1/10 complete (+0 in mod)
N701DN 7101
N702DN 7102
N703DN 7103
N704DK 7104
N705DN 7105
N706DN 7106 (entered Sept 6 2018; finished Nov 1 2018)
N707DN 7107
N708DN 7108
N709DN 7109
N710DN 7110


757 Status [Complete]
757-300: Complete (5801-5816)
75E -> 75S: Complete (6801-6818)
75A/75M -> 75H: Complete (5635-5649)
757/75X -> 75C: Complete (649-652, 654-655, 661-664, 666)
757/75X/75M -> 75D: Complete (658-660, 665, 667-676, 678-699, 5650-5657, 6700-6717)
Ex-Shanghai -> 75G: Complete (6819-6823)

Current configurations:
75S – C16W44Y108 (PMDL, International/JFK-CA, flatbeds in C, Satellite WiFi, PTVs)
75D – F20W29Y150 (AVOD/Sat TV, ISP, WiFi, new lavs/galleys/bins/PSUs/LED lighting)
75H – F20W29Y150 (AVOD/Sat TV, ISP, Satellite WiFi, new lavs/galleys/bins/PSUs/LED lighting, ETOPS)
75P – F20W41Y132 (AVOD/Sat TV, ISP, WiFi, new lavs/seats/galleys/bins/PSUs/LED lighting, winglets, and ETOPS)
75C – F72 (NBA/Charter configuration)


737 Status
73W – LED mood lighting, soft bulkhead between Y and F, 2Ku
738 – AVOD, updated lavs, and LED cabin lighting, 2Ku
739 – scimitar winglets (not all), Sat TV, 2Ku eventually

73W Cabin Refresh, awaiting 2Ku WiFi? (3601-3610)
Completed: 10/10


737-800 Mods [COMPLETE]
738: 43/43 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3701-4743)
73H: 30/30 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3744-3773)
73A v2 (Ex-GOL) IFE/ISP mods: 2/4 (+1 in mod). All have 2Ku WiFi
N775DE 3775 (ex-PR-GXG, entered Mar 2, 2018; finished May 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N776DE 3776 (ex-PR-GXK, entered Sep 1, 2018; finished Oct 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377DE 3777 (ex-PR-GXO, entered Oct 19, 2018; est. exit Dec 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.

73A (Ex-GOL): 1
N774DE 3774 (ex-PR-GUW, entered Apr 7, 2017; finished Jun 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Interim config has Sky Interior with F16W30Y108, 2Ku, and streaming IFE, but no AVOD/ISP.


737-900ER Scimitar Upgrades/Sat TV/Induction: 76 complete, 30 without scimitar upgrade, 23 on order, 1 in mod. All have 2Ku WiFi (3801-3906)
N907DN 3907 (entered Nov 9, 2018; est. exit Nov 18, 2018)


Airbus Mods/Induction
A319: F12W18Y96 -> F12W18Y102, AVOD, 2Ku
A320: F12W18Y120 -> P1: F16W18Y126 / P2: F16W18Y123
A321: induction (F20W29Y140)

A319: 57/57 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi, (3101-3102, 3114-3149, 3151-3155, 3157-3166, 3168-3171)

A320: P1: 1, P2: 58/62, 3 in mod. All have 2Ku WiFi
N309US 3209 P2: (entered Jan 13, 2018; finished Mar 1, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N312US 3212 P2: (entered Oct 31, 2017; finished Nov 24, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N317US 3217 P2: (entered Jul 5, 2017; finished Aug 11, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N319US 3219 P2: (entered Mar 9, 2018; finished Apr 6, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N320US 3220 P2: (entered Mar 2, 2018; finished Apr 6, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N321US 3221 P2: (entered Apr 30, 2018; finished May 25, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N322US 3222 P2: (entered Jun 24, 2018; finished Jul 19, 2018) – ATL. 2Ku WiFi.
N323US 3223 P2: (entered Jul 19, 2018; finished Aug 14, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N324US 3224 P2: (entered Aug 6, 2018; finished Sep 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N325US 3225 P2: (entered Oct 11, 2017; finished Nov 12, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N326US 3226 P2: (entered Sep 1, 2017; finished Oct 1, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N327NW 3227 P1: (entered Feb 3, 2017; finished Feb 26, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N328NW 3228 *P1: (entered Nov 5, 2018; finished Dec 5, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N329NW 3229 P2: (entered Oct 24, 2017; finished Nov 19, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N330NW 3230 P2: (entered Nov 16, 2017; finished Dec 11, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N331NW 3231 P2: (entered Jan 15, 2018; finished Feb 9, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N332NW 3232 P2: (entered Dec 21, 2017; finished Jan 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N333NW 3233 P2: (entered Nov 13, 2017; finished Dec 15, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N334NW 3234 P2: (entered Oct 2, 2017; finished Oct 28, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N335NW 3235 P2: (entered Dec 21, 2017; finished Jan 15, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N336NW 3236 P2: (entered May 28, 2018; finished Jun 23, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N337NW 3237 P2: (entered May 1, 2018; finished May 27, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N338NW 3238 *P1: (entered Oct 26, 2018; finished Nov 25, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi
N339NW 3239 P2: (entered Nov 19, 2017; finished Dec 15, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N340NW 3240 P2: (entered Apr 11, 2017; finished May 14, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N341NW 3241 P2: (entered Sep 9, 2018; finished Oct 14, 2018) – ATL. 2Ku WiFi.
N342NW 3242 P2: (entered Oct 14, 2018; finished Nov 10, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N343NW 3243 P2: (entered Sep 11, 2017; finished Oct 10, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N344NW 3244 P2: (entered Apr 25, 2016; finished May 25, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N345NW 3245 P2: (entered Dec 15, 2017; finished Jan 12, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N347NW 3247 P2: (entered Jun 3, 2017; finished Jul 3, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N348NW 3248 P2: (entered Jun 16, 2017; finished Jul 18, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N349NW 3249 P2: (entered Aug 1, 2017; finished Aug 30, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N350NA 3250 P2: (entered Nov 2, 2017; finished Dec 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N351NW 3251 P2: (entered Oct 11, 2018; finished Nov 5, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N352NW 3252 P2: (entered Sep 8, 2017; finished Oct 4, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N353NW 3253 P2: (entered May 16, 2017; finished Jun 16, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N354NW 3254 P2: (entered Apr 10, 2017; finished May 13, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N355NW 3255 P2: (entered Oct 5, 2017; finished Oct 31, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N356NW 3256 P2: (entered May 16, 2017; finished Jun 17, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N357NW 3257 P2: (entered Aug 11, 2017; finished Sep 11, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N358NW 3258 P2: (entered May 3, 2017; finished Jun 3, 2017) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N359NW 3259 P2: (entered Sep 27, 2017; finished Oct 24, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N360NW 3260 P2: (entered Dec 15, 2017; finished Jan 10, 2018) – MSP. 2Ku WiFi.
N361NW 3261 P2: (entered Feb 12, 2018; finished Mar 9, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N362NW 3262 P2: (entered Apr 6, 2018; finished May 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N363NW 3263 P2: (entered Feb 11, 2018; finished Mar 8, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N364NW 3264 P2: (entered Nov 24, 2017; finished Dec 20, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N365NW 3265 P2: (entered Jan 17, 2018; finished Feb 11, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N366NW 3266 P2: (entered Mar 10, 2018; finished Apr 5, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N367NW 3267 P2: (entered Apr 6, 2018; finished Apr 30, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N368NW 3268 P2: (entered Apr 6, 2018; finished May 1, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N369NW 3269 P2: (entered May 2, 2018; finished Jun 1, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N370NW 3270 P2: (entered Jun 1, 2018; finished Jun 30, 2016) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N371NW 3271 P2: (entered July 4, 2018; finished Aug 3, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N372NW 3272 P2: (entered Sep 2, 2018; finished Oct 9, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N373NW 3273 *P1: (entered Nov 10, 2018; est. exit Dec 10, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N374NW 3274 P2: (entered Sep 21, 2018; finished Oct 26, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N375NC 3275 P2: (entered Sep 2, 2017; finished Sep 27, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N376NW 3276 P2: (entered Oct 29, 2017; finished Nov 22, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377NW 3277 P2: (entered Aug 14, 2018; finished Sep 8, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N378NW 3278 P2: (entered Dec 11, 2016; finished Jan 26, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Mods being done at SAL, ATL, and MSP

A320s retirements: 7/7, (3210-3211, 3213-3216, 3218)


A321: 64/122 +1 in mod, (3001-3064)
N365DN 3065 (entered Nov 8, 2018; est. exit Nov 20, 2018). 2Ku WiFi.
N366DN 3066 On Order -
N367DN 3067 On Order -
N368DN 3068 On Order -
N369DN 3069 On Order -


B717 Mods: 91/91 complete, (9500-9589, 9594)
Mods: DL seating config, WiFi, ISP


MD-90s: 65 total
Active MD-90s: 44
N905DA 9205
N906DA 9206
N907DA 9207
N908DA 9208
N909DA 9209
N910DN 9210
N911DA 9211
N912DN 9212
N913DN 9213
N914DN 9214
N915DN 9215
N917DN 9217
N918DH 9218
N919DN 9219
N920DN 9220
N921DN 9221
N922DX 9222
N923DN 9223
N924DN 9224
N925DN 9225
N926DH 9226
N927DN 9227
N928DN 9228
N929DN 9229
N930DN 9230
N931DN 9231
N934DN 9234
N935DN 9235
N936DN 9236
N940DN 9240
N941DN 9241
N942DN 9242
N943DN 9243
N944DN 9244
N945DN 9245
N946DN 9246
N947DN 9247
N950DN 9250
N951DN 9251
N952DN 9252
N960DN 9260
N961DN 9261
N962DN 9262
N963DN 9263

Inactive MD-90s: 21 (w/ storage/retirement date)
N901DA 9201 10/1/2018
N902DA 9202 6/25/2017
N903DA 9203 9/2/2017
N904DA 9204 7/15/2018
N916DN 9216 3/23/2018
N932DN 9232 12/24/2017
N933DN 9233 8/29/2018
N937DN 9237 8/13/2018
N938DN 9238 11/12/2018
N939DN 9239 11/15/2018
N948DN 9248 10/14/2018
N949DN 9249 11/15/2018
N953DN 9253 6/3/2018
N954DN 9254 5/12/2018
N955DN 9255 4/15/2018
N956DN 9256 1/3/2018
N957DN 9257 2/28/2018
N958DN 9258 10/1/2017
N959DN 9259 1/15/2018
N964DN 9264 2/28/2018
N965DN 9265 7/11/2018


MD-88s: 120 total
Active MD-88s: 87
N904DL 904
N905DL 905
N906DL 906
N907DL 907
N908DL 908
N910DL 910
N911DL 911
N912DL 912
N913DL 913
N915DL 915
N916DL 916
N917DL 917
N922DL 922
N936DL 936
N937DL 937
N946DL 946
N947DL 947
N948DL 948
N949DL 949
N950DL 950
N951DL 951
N952DL 952
N953DL 953
N954DL 954
N955DL 955
N956DL 956
N957DL 957
N958DL 958
N959DL 959
N960DL 960
N961DL 961
N962DL 962
N963DL 963
N964DL 964
N965DL 965
N966DL 966
N967DL 967
N968DL 968
N969DL 969
N970DL 970
N971DL 971
N972DL 972
N973DL 973
N974DL 974
N975DL 975
N976DL 976
N977DL 977
N978DL 978
N979DL 979
N980DL 980
N981DL 981
N982DL 982
N983DL 983
N984DL 984
N985DL 985
N986DL 986
N987DL 987
N988DL 988
N989DL 989
N990DL 990
N991DL 991
N992DL 992
N993DL 993
N994DL 994
N995DL 995
N996DL 996
N997DL 997
N998DL 998
N999DN 999
N900DE 9000
N901DE 9001
N902DE 9002
N903DE 9003
N904DE 9004
N905DE 9005
N906DE 9006
N907DE 9007
N908DE 9008
N909DE 9009
N910DE 9010
N911DE 9011
N912DE 9012
N913DE 9013
N915DE 9015
N916DE 9016
N918DE 9018
N920DE 9020

Inactive MD-88s: 33 (w/ storage/retirement date)
N901DL 901 2007
N902DL 902
N903DL 903 2008
N909DL 909 3/05/2015 (written off)
N914DL 914 8/25/2018
N918DL 918 7/07/2018
N919DL 919 3/25/2018
N920DL 920 10/30/2017
N921DL 921 8/19/2018
N923DL 923 3/22/2018
N924DL 924 10/30/2018
N925DL 925 9/15/2017
N926DL 926 5/29/2018
N927DA 927 8/10/2018
N928DL 928 8/28/2017
N929DL 929 1/05/2018
N930DL 930 12/02/2017
N931DL 931 5/11/2018
N932DL 932 9/15/2018
N933DL 933 9/28/2018
N934DL 934 7/01/2018
N935DL 935 to be retired tomorrow 11/21
N938DL 938 11/1/2018
N939DL 939 9/23/2018
N943DL 943 10/31/2018
N944DL 944 11/2/2018
N945DL 945 11/18/2018
N940DL 940 11/13/2017
N941DL 941
N942DL 942 9/7/2018
N914DE 9014 9/07/2017
N917DE 9017 10/20/2017
N919DE 9019 7/20/2018
 
FSDan
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:30 pm

It's exciting that there are just two aircraft left without PTVs (one 73A and one 320) out of all the aircraft scheduled to be retrofitted! After those are done, will the facilities being used to do the conversions switch to focus on other projects for DL?
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PotatoPappas
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:31 pm

FSDan wrote:
It's exciting that there are just two aircraft left without PTVs (one 73A and one 320) out of all the aircraft scheduled to be retrofitted! After those are done, will the facilities being used to do the conversions switch to focus on other projects for DL?



A lot of the 737-800 fleet, 757 fleet, and the entire 737-700 fleet are due for new cabins. The IFEs are old and worn out, the 737-700 doesn't have power. I think the next project is updating the older IFEs with those new tablets on the A220s and A330-900.
 
TW870
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:34 pm

PotatoPappas wrote:
FSDan wrote:
It's exciting that there are just two aircraft left without PTVs (one 73A and one 320) out of all the aircraft scheduled to be retrofitted! After those are done, will the facilities being used to do the conversions switch to focus on other projects for DL?



A lot of the 737-800 fleet, 757 fleet, and the entire 737-700 fleet are due for new cabins. The IFEs are old and worn out, the 737-700 doesn't have power. I think the next project is updating the older IFEs with those new tablets on the A220s and A330-900.


There are no more cabin updates scheduled for any of these aircraft before they exit the fleet. It is true that the IFE is old on some of the 738s and 752s, but I don't think they are scheduled for new IFE at this time.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:51 pm

TW870 wrote:
PotatoPappas wrote:
FSDan wrote:
It's exciting that there are just two aircraft left without PTVs (one 73A and one 320) out of all the aircraft scheduled to be retrofitted! After those are done, will the facilities being used to do the conversions switch to focus on other projects for DL?



A lot of the 737-800 fleet, 757 fleet, and the entire 737-700 fleet are due for new cabins. The IFEs are old and worn out, the 737-700 doesn't have power. I think the next project is updating the older IFEs with those new tablets on the A220s and A330-900.


There are no more cabin updates scheduled for any of these aircraft before they exit the fleet. It is true that the IFE is old on some of the 738s and 752s, but I don't think they are scheduled for new IFE at this time.



That's why I said, "I Think". I'm almost positive the 737s will get them eventually because theyre not going anywhere anytime soon. As for the 757s however.. you're correct they're not going to invest in them due to their retirement.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:37 pm

When you say the 737's getting new cabins will this include the 737-700?
 
timf
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:44 pm

gsg013 wrote:
When you say the 737's getting new cabins will this include the 737-700?

No 737s are getting new cabins. All that was said is some are in need of further updates, but nothing is planned.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:04 pm

Remember that most of the 738s are quite early builds and approaching 20 years of age. The cabins are passable, but don't look as nice as the Sky Interior 739s or the refurb 752/A320 fleets. It is not a situation that is embarrassing like the early build 752 and A320 cabins were before the refurb. I doubt the ROI for a Sky Interior-like upgrade of the 738 fleet would pencil out.

Same logic applies to the 753 and 75S, which are around the same age and have cabins closely based on that of the 737NG. Contrast them with the rest of the 752 fleet, which was originally equipped with the "classic" but now very dated 1980s-design 757 cabin.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:17 am

seabosdca wrote:
Remember that most of the 738s are quite early builds and approaching 20 years of age. The cabins are passable, but don't look as nice as the Sky Interior 739s or the refurb 752/A320 fleets. It is not a situation that is embarrassing like the early build 752 and A320 cabins were before the refurb. I doubt the ROI for a Sky Interior-like upgrade of the 738 fleet would pencil out.

Same logic applies to the 753 and 75S, which are around the same age and have cabins closely based on that of the 737NG. Contrast them with the rest of the 752 fleet, which was originally equipped with the "classic" but now very dated 1980s-design 757 cabin.


Im not sure if they ever would do some sort of a half refurb but having the large sky style bins of the new 757-D added to the 757-S could go a long way on those cross country trips.

I also happen to really like the seats in J on the 757 having just 16 seats up in that front cabin makes it nice and spacious it also makes it feel a bit more special than the 767 J seats with 30+ seats in the single cabin.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:02 am

seabosdca wrote:
Remember that most of the 738s are quite early builds and approaching 20 years of age. The cabins are passable, but don't look as nice as the Sky Interior 739s or the refurb 752/A320 fleets. It is not a situation that is embarrassing like the early build 752 and A320 cabins were before the refurb. I doubt the ROI for a Sky Interior-like upgrade of the 738 fleet would pencil out.


I agree with this. Some of the 738s that have the oldest IFE and those awful hard seats are now among the least desirable airplanes in the fleet. But I just don't see the business case for a major upgrade when the focus has to be the reconfiguration of the long haul fleet. There are so many nice narrowbodies entering the fleet that a relatively small group of older 737s is not going to be a major factor. I was just on a 739 and a reconfigured A320 yesterday and despite how tight the overall configuration is, the cabins look fantastic. Very bright, very clean, huge bins, and very functional.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:37 am

3907 exited induction and ferried to ATL this evening:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N907DN
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Northwest1988
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:39 am

Have any of the MD-88s been scrapped yet or are they still sitting on the ramp in BYH or SBD. Haven’t seen any pics of them post retirement yet.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:47 pm

186 has been in ATL since 11/15 for 76Z mods.
 
PotatoPappas
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:39 am

timf wrote:
gsg013 wrote:
When you say the 737's getting new cabins will this include the 737-700?

No 737s are getting new cabins. All that was said is some are in need of further updates, but nothing is planned.




Yes, I STRESS its just me forecasting what MIGHT happen.. Delta hasn't said anything.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:48 am

TW870 wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
Remember that most of the 738s are quite early builds and approaching 20 years of age. The cabins are passable, but don't look as nice as the Sky Interior 739s or the refurb 752/A320 fleets. It is not a situation that is embarrassing like the early build 752 and A320 cabins were before the refurb. I doubt the ROI for a Sky Interior-like upgrade of the 738 fleet would pencil out.


I agree with this. Some of the 738s that have the oldest IFE and those awful hard seats are now among the least desirable airplanes in the fleet. But I just don't see the business case for a major upgrade when the focus has to be the reconfiguration of the long haul fleet. There are so many nice narrowbodies entering the fleet that a relatively small group of older 737s is not going to be a major factor. I was just on a 739 and a reconfigured A320 yesterday and despite how tight the overall configuration is, the cabins look fantastic. Very bright, very clean, huge bins, and very functional.



So the first bank of 737-800s from the late 90s all have new IFEs, but no Sky Interior. The younger 738s that got delivered with the old generation IFEs haven't changed. Also, GoGo has a youtube video outlining the A220`s wireless IFEs and the IFEs are displaying a 737-800 safety video. Not trying to start rumors at all and this is why I stress this only me putting things together, Delta has not said anything about IFE upgrades on the younger 737-800s. As for Sky Interior, I wouldn't bank on then getting it.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:58 am

I have no inside information but I would bet against any major changes to the 73G, 738, or 753 cabins for the rest of their careers at Delta. The only things that will happen are maintenance steps like replacement carpets and seat covers.

With the 75S, the only change I'd expect would be updates to the international J product to match anything that happens with the rest of the fleet.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:45 pm

B75S N722TW also no longer in SkyTeam paint. Ferried AMA-ATL on 11/11

MD88 N935DL ferried ATL-SBD on 11/21
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N935DL

B712 N975AT ferrying MSP-SBD for storage tomorrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/N975AT
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:08 pm

seabosdca wrote:
I have no inside information but I would bet against any major changes to the 73G, 738, or 753 cabins for the rest of their careers at Delta. The only things that will happen are maintenance steps like replacement carpets and seat covers.

With the 75S, the only change I'd expect would be updates to the international J product to match anything that happens with the rest of the fleet.




Really? Im assuming the 73G is the 700, if it isn't then I'm babbling about nothing. If it is, I don't see why they wouldn't the 700s are only 10 years old and have a lot of life left.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:58 pm

gsg013 wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
Remember that most of the 738s are quite early builds and approaching 20 years of age. The cabins are passable, but don't look as nice as the Sky Interior 739s or the refurb 752/A320 fleets. It is not a situation that is embarrassing like the early build 752 and A320 cabins were before the refurb. I doubt the ROI for a Sky Interior-like upgrade of the 738 fleet would pencil out.

Same logic applies to the 753 and 75S, which are around the same age and have cabins closely based on that of the 737NG. Contrast them with the rest of the 752 fleet, which was originally equipped with the "classic" but now very dated 1980s-design 757 cabin.


Im not sure if they ever would do some sort of a half refurb but having the large sky style bins of the new 757-D added to the 757-S could go a long way on those cross country trips.

I also happen to really like the seats in J on the 757 having just 16 seats up in that front cabin makes it nice and spacious it also makes it feel a bit more special than the 767 J seats with 30+ seats in the single cabin.


But can they do the new pivot bins on the 75S and 753 without new PSUs?
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:52 am

n515cr wrote:


737 Status
73W – LED mood lighting, soft bulkhead between Y and F, 2Ku
738 – AVOD, updated lavs, and LED cabin lighting, 2Ku
739 – scimitar winglets (not all), Sat TV, 2Ku eventually

73W Cabin Refresh, awaiting 2Ku WiFi? (3601-3610)
Completed: 10/10


737-800 Mods [COMPLETE]
738: 43/43 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3701-4743)
73H: 30/30 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3744-3773)
73A v2 (Ex-GOL) IFE/ISP mods: 2/4 (+1 in mod). All have 2Ku WiFi
N775DE 3775 (ex-PR-GXG, entered Mar 2, 2018; finished May 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N776DE 3776 (ex-PR-GXK, entered Sep 1, 2018; finished Oct 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377DE 3777 (ex-PR-GXO, entered Oct 19, 2018; est. exit Dec 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.

73A (Ex-GOL): 1
N774DE 3774 (ex-PR-GUW, entered Apr 7, 2017; finished Jun 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Interim config has Sky Interior with F16W30Y108, 2Ku, and streaming IFE, but no AVOD/ISP.


So there is still one Delta 738 floating around without IFE? Interesting.

One question; are you able to get the registration numbers for the 738s with the old IFE:

Image

and the new IFE:

Image
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:11 pm

maps4ltd wrote:
n515cr wrote:


737 Status
73W – LED mood lighting, soft bulkhead between Y and F, 2Ku
738 – AVOD, updated lavs, and LED cabin lighting, 2Ku
739 – scimitar winglets (not all), Sat TV, 2Ku eventually

73W Cabin Refresh, awaiting 2Ku WiFi? (3601-3610)
Completed: 10/10


737-800 Mods [COMPLETE]
738: 43/43 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3701-4743)
73H: 30/30 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3744-3773)
73A v2 (Ex-GOL) IFE/ISP mods: 2/4 (+1 in mod). All have 2Ku WiFi
N775DE 3775 (ex-PR-GXG, entered Mar 2, 2018; finished May 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N776DE 3776 (ex-PR-GXK, entered Sep 1, 2018; finished Oct 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377DE 3777 (ex-PR-GXO, entered Oct 19, 2018; est. exit Dec 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.

73A (Ex-GOL): 1
N774DE 3774 (ex-PR-GUW, entered Apr 7, 2017; finished Jun 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Interim config has Sky Interior with F16W30Y108, 2Ku, and streaming IFE, but no AVOD/ISP.


So there is still one Delta 738 floating around without IFE? Interesting.

One question; are you able to get the registration numbers for the 738s with the old IFE:

Image

and the new IFE:

Image



I have that info somewhere let me do some digging.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:15 pm

maps4ltd wrote:
n515cr wrote:


737 Status
73W – LED mood lighting, soft bulkhead between Y and F, 2Ku
738 – AVOD, updated lavs, and LED cabin lighting, 2Ku
739 – scimitar winglets (not all), Sat TV, 2Ku eventually

73W Cabin Refresh, awaiting 2Ku WiFi? (3601-3610)
Completed: 10/10


737-800 Mods [COMPLETE]
738: 43/43 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3701-4743)
73H: 30/30 complete. All have 2Ku WiFi (3744-3773)
73A v2 (Ex-GOL) IFE/ISP mods: 2/4 (+1 in mod). All have 2Ku WiFi
N775DE 3775 (ex-PR-GXG, entered Mar 2, 2018; finished May 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N776DE 3776 (ex-PR-GXK, entered Sep 1, 2018; finished Oct 17, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
N377DE 3777 (ex-PR-GXO, entered Oct 19, 2018; est. exit Dec 2, 2018) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.

73A (Ex-GOL): 1
N774DE 3774 (ex-PR-GUW, entered Apr 7, 2017; finished Jun 21, 2017) – SAL. 2Ku WiFi.
*Interim config has Sky Interior with F16W30Y108, 2Ku, and streaming IFE, but no AVOD/ISP.


So there is still one Delta 738 floating around without IFE? Interesting.

One question; are you able to get the registration numbers for the 738s with the old IFE:

Image

and the new IFE:

Image



737-800s 3701-3743 got new Y seats with newer system
3744-3773 still have old Y seats
3775-3777 should have gotten new seats (ex-GOL aircraft)
3774 is the only one with no IFE at all

For the 757s I believe:
the ex-Song and 5650s NW 757s all got new Y seats.
The ones originally going to pasture (684 and under), 691 (N900PC), and the 5640s NW a/c got the older Y seats.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:52 pm

186 set to RTS today with 76Z seatmap: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN
1200 should be the next 76L-to-76Z conversion: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N1200K
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:15 pm

n515cr wrote:
186 set to RTS today with 76Z seatmap: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN
1200 should be the next 76L-to-76Z conversion: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N1200K



What are the differences between the cabins?
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:33 pm

PotatoPappas wrote:
n515cr wrote:
186 set to RTS today with 76Z seatmap: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN
1200 should be the next 76L-to-76Z conversion: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N1200K



What are the differences between the cabins?


76L: C-36 .. W-32 .. Y-143
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US ... r-76l.html

76Z: C-26 .. W-35 .. Y-165
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US ... -76z1.html
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:37 pm

deltacto wrote:
PotatoPappas wrote:
n515cr wrote:
186 set to RTS today with 76Z seatmap: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N186DN
1200 should be the next 76L-to-76Z conversion: https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/N1200K



What are the differences between the cabins?


76L: C-36 .. W-32 .. Y-143
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US ... r-76l.html

76Z: C-26 .. W-35 .. Y-165
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US ... -76z1.html


Are they for different routes?
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:38 pm

The next B739ER, #3908, N908DN, is currently on its delivery flight from BFI>MCI:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N908DN
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:46 pm

PotatoPappas wrote:
deltacto wrote:
PotatoPappas wrote:


What are the differences between the cabins?


76L: C-36 .. W-32 .. Y-143
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US ... r-76l.html

76Z: C-26 .. W-35 .. Y-165
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US ... -76z1.html


Are they for different routes?


Yes. At this point there are far more 76Zs than 76Ls, so most 763 routes are the 76Z. The 76Ls have more premium seats, and as such are utilized on higher-premium routes. They mostly fly to LHR and FRA, with a few other destinations mixed in.
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:48 pm

Also, does anyone know exactly how many 76Ls, 76Zs, and 76Qs there are now, and how many more are planned to be converted?
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:39 pm

FSDan wrote:
PotatoPappas wrote:
deltacto wrote:


Are they for different routes?


Yes. At this point there are far more 76Zs than 76Ls, so most 763 routes are the 76Z. The 76Ls have more premium seats, and as such are utilized on higher-premium routes. They mostly fly to LHR and FRA, with a few other destinations mixed in.



Ok, Thanks!
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:37 am

FSDan wrote:
Also, does anyone know exactly how many 76Ls, 76Zs, and 76Qs there are now, and how many more are planned to be converted?


The Q(and P's, if they even still distinguish the two) are the non-ERs. Same two still left, N140LL and N1402A.
There is also a "T" listed on their website that seems identical to the L. Seatguru says the T has a crew-rest that takes up several D1 seats.
 
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:37 pm

jb1087xna wrote:
FSDan wrote:
Also, does anyone know exactly how many 76Ls, 76Zs, and 76Qs there are now, and how many more are planned to be converted?


The Q(and P's, if they even still distinguish the two) are the non-ERs. Same two still left, N140LL and N1402A.
There is also a "T" listed on their website that seems identical to the L. Seatguru says the T has a crew-rest that takes up several D1 seats.


My bad, I meant 76T rather than 76Q... Does anyone know how many Qs, Ls, and Zs there are? Something like 7, 13, and 36, respectively?
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Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:28 pm

3238, N338NW, has finished mods and ferried from SAL>MSP today. Only 3227, N327NW, is still flying with the original P1 mods.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N338NW

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