Iran aviation thread - 2018

SQ22 · Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:14 pm

Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

Link to previous thread of 2017:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1373299&p=19802723#p19802723

Blerg · Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:01 pm

Iran has rescheduled their BEG flights for 27.01. Initially they were supposed to start on 13.01

They will operate twice a week and will mostly carry Iranian tourists visiting Serbia. Qeshm Air will also launch their own two weekly flights starting from 01.02. Mahan Air will also operate a one off charter in March onboard their A310.

http://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/01/ira ... 3245826271

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:12 pm

Will be posting the news of Iranian aviation over the past 20 days.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:14 pm

Tehran IKA airport has nearly finished constructing a new ramp. This will help cope with increased demand at the airport. Many airlines have returned to the airport, as a result of the nuclear deal.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:16 pm

The ministry of roads and development expects the delivery of the first 777 to Iran Air to be delayed until Q4 2018.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:17 pm

Iran Aseman Airlines has said that Boeing will finance the deal for 30 737 MAX aircraft.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:19 pm

On January 11th, Parsabad Airport resumed operations, after 7 years, thanks to Iran Air's new ATR aircraft. IR will soon begin a regular service to the airport, from THR.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:22 pm

On January 14th, Bombardier and Fly Qeshm finalised a contract for 10 new CRJ900 aircraft. Once the deal is signed, two aircraft will be delivered quarterly.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:25 pm

On January 16th, Qatar Airways 787 dream liner A7-BCT became the first 787 to land in Tehran, for a regular passenger service. A350 will go to Tehran on January 22nd.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:27 pm

2017 figures for Iran Air operations in Sweden have been released. Tehran-Gothenburg-Tehran, 16175 pax (+41% YOY, ∼60% load factor), 2nd busiest intercontinental route. Tehran-Stockholm-Tehran, 32408 pax (+71% YOY, ∼58% LF), 14th busiest. Both routes are always operated by A330-200.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:29 pm

As of February 10th, Qeshm Air will increase flights to Brussels to twice a week. Route is operated by A319.

IranianMan123 · Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:33 pm

On January 18th, Iran Air operated a one off flight from Tehran Mehrabad to Kalaleh, with ATR 72. Likely to become a regular service soon. Kalaleh is in the north of Iran and has a population of 130 000. Huge potential to become a great route for IR. ATR aircraft clearly helping IR expand.

Samrnpage · Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:38 pm

Austrian Airlines and Mashad are in talks for a Mashad - Vienna link either with Austrian Airlines or Iran Air.

Slash787 · Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:26 pm

IranianMan123 wrote:
The ministry of roads and development expects the delivery of the first 777 to Iran Air to be delayed until Q4 2018.

Any Deliveries of A330 or A321 in 2018?

Blerg · Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:46 am

How is Austrian Airlines doing in Esfahan and Shiraz? I think I read somewhere that they linked the two cities. I guess it's a challenge to fill the plane in winter.

IranianMan123 · Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:13 pm

Slash787 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
The ministry of roads and development expects the delivery of the first 777 to Iran Air to be delayed until Q4 2018.

Any Deliveries of A330 or A321 in 2018?

Definitely not A330. A321 is a possibility.

Slash787 · Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:37 pm

IranianMan123 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
The ministry of roads and development expects the delivery of the first 777 to Iran Air to be delayed until Q4 2018.

Any Deliveries of A330 or A321 in 2018?

Definitely not A330. A321 is a possibility.

Why no A330? Are all the production blocks full for the A330 in 2018?

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:52 pm

Blerg · Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:56 pm

The B777 looks stunning in IR colours. I do wonder if they really have the need for it. I mean, the A330 is probably the perfect aircraft for them. It could make sense if they ever launch flights to the US, Canada or even Australia.

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:09 pm

Blerg wrote:
The B777 looks stunning in IR colours. I do wonder if they really have the need for it. I mean, the A330 is probably the perfect aircraft for them. It could make sense if they ever launch flights to the US, Canada or even Australia.

Iran Air is eyeing to launch flights to Australia and resume Kuala Lumpur, Tokyo, Beijing and etc. these B777's will most likely being used on the LHR route as well.

IR has 15 B777ER's on order and 15 B777X planes, next to 16 A350-1000, 28 A330NEO plus 8 A330-200's

Blerg · Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:17 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
The B777 looks stunning in IR colours. I do wonder if they really have the need for it. I mean, the A330 is probably the perfect aircraft for them. It could make sense if they ever launch flights to the US, Canada or even Australia.

Iran Air is eyeing to launch flights to Australia and resume Kuala Lumpur, Tokyo, Beijing and etc. these B777's will most likely being used on the LHR route as well.

IR has 15 B777ER's on order and 15 B777X planes, next to 16 A350-1000, 28 A330NEO plus 8 A330-200's

If IR does keep on expanding like this then it will be a major blow to airlines such as EK, QR, TK...

Good for IR though.

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:19 pm

Blerg wrote:
persiangulf93 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
The B777 looks stunning in IR colours. I do wonder if they really have the need for it. I mean, the A330 is probably the perfect aircraft for them. It could make sense if they ever launch flights to the US, Canada or even Australia.

Iran Air is eyeing to launch flights to Australia and resume Kuala Lumpur, Tokyo, Beijing and etc. these B777's will most likely being used on the LHR route as well.

IR has 15 B777ER's on order and 15 B777X planes, next to 16 A350-1000, 28 A330NEO plus 8 A330-200's

If IR does keep on expanding like this then it will be a major blow to airlines such as EK, QR, TK...

Good for IR though.

It will take years for IR to develop into a major carrier - More important, Iran should invest billions of USD in airport infrastructure first.

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:20 pm

Slash787 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:

Any Deliveries of A330 or A321 in 2018?

Definitely not A330. A321 is a possibility.

Why no A330? Are all the production blocks full for the A330 in 2018?

Read these articles:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airb ... SKBN1F42B1

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/compa ... lear-deal/

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:28 pm

I've tried to modify the current A300 paint in the newer billboard livery and looks decent IMHO.

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:35 pm

Bostrom · Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:11 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:
I've tried to modify the current A300 paint in the newer billboard livery and looks decent IMHO.

Not too bad. Iran air is in my opinion really in need of a new livery, but the billboard livery is a least a step in the right direction.

persiangulf93 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:13 pm

Bostrom wrote:
persiangulf93 wrote:
I've tried to modify the current A300 paint in the newer billboard livery and looks decent IMHO.

Not too bad. Iran air is in my opinion really in need of a new livery, but the billboard livery is a least a step in the right direction.

Iran Air's livery (billboard) is timeless, iconic and classy. More importantly it goes well on both narrow body aircraft types like ATR's, A320's as well as wide body aircraft.

Bostrom · Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:24 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:

Iran Air's livery (billboard) is timeless, iconic and classy. More importantly it goes well on both narrow body aircraft types like ATR's, A320's as well as wide body aircraft.

De gustibus non est disputandum, but it's just too much white for my taste. There is probably no need to go for a new design, but an update would be nice. The lines on the fuselage of the ATR's are a big improvement, but there are probably more things that can be done.

Channex757 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:35 pm

The ATRs are the most important piece of the fleet at the moment. Iran is a pretty large country and there is a solid need for good domestic travel. Incoming A320 family aircraft will be a big part of this too.

Get the basics in place as they are doing, and operating those 773ERs will fit nicely with the A330s.

IranianMan123 · Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:02 pm

Channex757 wrote:
The ATRs are the most important piece of the fleet at the moment. Iran is a pretty large country and there is a solid need for good domestic travel. Incoming A320 family aircraft will be a big part of this too.

Get the basics in place as they are doing, and operating those 773ERs will fit nicely with the A330s.

The Ceo of Iran Air has said that flights to Sydney, Adelaide, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur will be launched with the 777's.

Channex757 · Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:28 am

IranianMan123 wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
The ATRs are the most important piece of the fleet at the moment. Iran is a pretty large country and there is a solid need for good domestic travel. Incoming A320 family aircraft will be a big part of this too.

Get the basics in place as they are doing, and operating those 773ERs will fit nicely with the A330s.

The Ceo of Iran Air has said that flights to Sydney, Adelaide, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur will be launched with the 777's.

That's why the ATRs are so important. Good feed to the Tehran hub to service the longhaul aircraft.

The same goes for people coming into Iran, who can then connect to their final destination easily. ATRs are great feeder planes.

Melbourne · Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:04 am

IranianMan123 wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
The ATRs are the most important piece of the fleet at the moment. Iran is a pretty large country and there is a solid need for good domestic travel. Incoming A320 family aircraft will be a big part of this too.

Get the basics in place as they are doing, and operating those 773ERs will fit nicely with the A330s.

The Ceo of Iran Air has said that flights to Sydney, Adelaide, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur will be launched with the 777's.

Adelaide? There is a Afghan community there but nothing substantial, I would've thought Melbourne over Adelaide considering it has for one a sizable Iranian/Persian community and a larger Afghan community also

Blerg · Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:45 am

Channex757 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
The ATRs are the most important piece of the fleet at the moment. Iran is a pretty large country and there is a solid need for good domestic travel. Incoming A320 family aircraft will be a big part of this too.

Get the basics in place as they are doing, and operating those 773ERs will fit nicely with the A330s.

The Ceo of Iran Air has said that flights to Sydney, Adelaide, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur will be launched with the 777's.

That's why the ATRs are so important. Good feed to the Tehran hub to service the longhaul aircraft.

The same goes for people coming into Iran, who can then connect to their final destination easily. ATRs are great feeder planes.

I might be wrong but I think the Atr is used mostly on domestic flights within Iran, not so much from Tehran. I read that some previously inactive airports got flights now thanks to the aircraft. It seems it's a perfect fit for IR.

persiangulf93 · Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:41 am

Blerg wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
The Ceo of Iran Air has said that flights to Sydney, Adelaide, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur will be launched with the 777's.

That's why the ATRs are so important. Good feed to the Tehran hub to service the longhaul aircraft.

The same goes for people coming into Iran, who can then connect to their final destination easily. ATRs are great feeder planes.

I might be wrong but I think the Atr is used mostly on domestic flights within Iran, not so much from Tehran. I read that some previously inactive airports got flights now thanks to the aircraft. It seems it's a perfect fit for IR.

Tehran is a major hub for domestic flights!

Blerg · Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:31 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
That's why the ATRs are so important. Good feed to the Tehran hub to service the longhaul aircraft.

The same goes for people coming into Iran, who can then connect to their final destination easily. ATRs are great feeder planes.

I might be wrong but I think the Atr is used mostly on domestic flights within Iran, not so much from Tehran. I read that some previously inactive airports got flights now thanks to the aircraft. It seems it's a perfect fit for IR.

Tehran is a major hub for domestic flights!

I don't see anyone claiming otherwise.

traveller12 · Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:46 am

Blerg wrote:
How is Austrian Airlines doing in Esfahan and Shiraz? I think I read somewhere that they linked the two cities. I guess it's a challenge to fill the plane in winter.

Of course the flight is not full, but sometimes brings a huge amount of transfer pax to North American destinations.

Solidus · Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:33 pm

One interesting question maybe to persiangulf93 and others who more in theme,

Is really 727 of Iran Aseman still in commercial passenger service? There is no chances to get this information from outside, there are lot of rumors in topics related to 727, but on one confirmed definitely by fact, eg last flight number and etc.

Please kindly provide some info.

IranianMan123 · Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:29 pm

Solidus wrote:
One interesting question maybe to persiangulf93 and others who more in theme,

Is really 727 of Iran Aseman still in commercial passenger service? There is no chances to get this information from outside, there are lot of rumors in topics related to 727, but on one confirmed definitely by fact, eg last flight number and etc.

Please kindly provide some info.

They are still in service. Aseman uses them on domestic routes from Tehran to various cities, such as Ahwaz and Mashhad.

IranianMan123 · Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:36 pm

I just found an article showing more Iran Air plans for the 777. Tokyo-Narita and Beijing services are set to be resumed, once the 777 begins to be delivered. New route to Toronto is also going to be established. Aircraft configuration will be 352 economy seats and 35 Homa seats (business class), totalling 387 seats.The new business class will be different to the current A330 seats. https://airlinegeeks.com/2018/02/09/ira ... ew-routes/

a300 · Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:14 am

IranianMan123 wrote:
I just found an article showing more Iran Air plans for the 777. Tokyo-Narita and Beijing services are set to be resumed, once the 777 begins to be delivered. New route to Toronto is also going to be established. Aircraft configuration will be 352 economy seats and 35 Homa seats (business class), totalling 387 seats.The new business class will be different to the current A330 seats. https://airlinegeeks.com/2018/02/09/ira ... ew-routes/

I saw the news about potential flights to Toronto and I find it doubtful. Canada and Iran do not have diplomatic relations for several years now. Also, previous attempts to serve YYZ in the late 1990s were blocked by the Americans as the certain landing patterns would cross or come close to the US border.

Samrnpage · Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:23 am

2017 Pax numbers.

1. pax
2. flights
3. freight (kg)

Total
61,182,543 (+8,7%)
490,968 (+7,6%)
595,192,917 (+10,2%)
International
12,551,365 (9,5%)
87,029 (+6,3%)
228,274,993 (+9,3%)
Domestic
48,631,178 (+8,5%)
403,939 (+7,8%)
366,917,924 (+10,8%)

Top 10 Airports PAX
Tehran-THR 17,464,216 pax (+6,9%)
Mashhad 10,459,377 (+4,3%)
Tehran-IKA 8,852,232 (+13,2%)
Shiraz 3,530,525 (+6,7%)
Ahvaz 2,939,958 (+10%)
Isfahan 2,784,616 (+7,4%)
Kish 2,926,752 (+3,6%)
Tabriz 1,942,726 (+9,9%)
Bandar Abbas 1,289,063 (+14,2%)
Asalouyeh 852,990 (+5,5%)

Steady growth as expected, some airports getting over 10% increase in Pax

Blerg · Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:38 am

Mahan Air will be introducing charter flights from IKA to BEG starting from 06.04. Flights will operate until the end of the summer season. Mahan will use the A310.

On top of that, Qeshm and Iran Air will both operate their own two weekly flights.

PetalumaFlyer21 · Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:37 pm

Blerg wrote:
The B777 looks stunning in IR colours. I do wonder if they really have the need for it. I mean, the A330 is probably the perfect aircraft for them. It could make sense if they ever launch flights to the US, Canada or even Australia.

Ms. Sharafbafi mentioned that they want to start flights to Australia in the future with their 777. Makes sense given the recent agreement signed between the two, and the large Iranian diaspora community in Australia. Not only that, they can extend the flight to AKL and tap into the NZ market too. I'm optimistic about Iran Air's future as a solid competitor to SV and KU in the Europe-Asia connection market, as well as being a viable option for tourists coming to Iran.

PetalumaFlyer21 · Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:40 pm

a300 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
I just found an article showing more Iran Air plans for the 777. Tokyo-Narita and Beijing services are set to be resumed, once the 777 begins to be delivered. New route to Toronto is also going to be established. Aircraft configuration will be 352 economy seats and 35 Homa seats (business class), totalling 387 seats.The new business class will be different to the current A330 seats. https://airlinegeeks.com/2018/02/09/ira ... ew-routes/

I saw the news about potential flights to Toronto and I find it doubtful. Canada and Iran do not have diplomatic relations for several years now. Also, previous attempts to serve YYZ in the late 1990s were blocked by the Americans as the certain landing patterns would cross or come close to the US border.

Personally I think Trudeau might use seasonal charters from YYZ to IKA as a form of rapprochement with Iran. Also, FedEx regularly flies over Iran, so Iran could threaten to close that corridor to US airplanes if the US tries to block a Toronto route.

PetalumaFlyer21 · Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:46 pm

persiangulf93 wrote:

I'd like to see Iran Air refurbish their A300s, A310s, and A320s with the new livery, newer seats, and IFE to appeal to travelers living abroad during the interim before they can modernize their whole fleet.

JoeCanuck · Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:10 pm

PetalumaFlyer21 wrote:
a300 wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
I just found an article showing more Iran Air plans for the 777. Tokyo-Narita and Beijing services are set to be resumed, once the 777 begins to be delivered. New route to Toronto is also going to be established. Aircraft configuration will be 352 economy seats and 35 Homa seats (business class), totalling 387 seats.The new business class will be different to the current A330 seats. https://airlinegeeks.com/2018/02/09/ira ... ew-routes/

I saw the news about potential flights to Toronto and I find it doubtful. Canada and Iran do not have diplomatic relations for several years now. Also, previous attempts to serve YYZ in the late 1990s were blocked by the Americans as the certain landing patterns would cross or come close to the US border.

Personally I think Trudeau might use seasonal charters from YYZ to IKA as a form of rapprochement with Iran. Also, FedEx regularly flies over Iran, so Iran could threaten to close that corridor to US airplanes if the US tries to block a Toronto route.

Trudeau has been given his marching orders by the Saudi's. The sale of 15 billion dollars worth of armed/armored vehicles, (but they won't be used to do bad things....honest), is much more important to him than any rapprochement with Iran.

Too bad since BBD could sure use a market for the CSeries, CRJ's and Q's.

PetalumaFlyer21 · Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:04 pm

Melbourne wrote:
IranianMan123 wrote:
Channex757 wrote:
The ATRs are the most important piece of the fleet at the moment. Iran is a pretty large country and there is a solid need for good domestic travel. Incoming A320 family aircraft will be a big part of this too.

Get the basics in place as they are doing, and operating those 773ERs will fit nicely with the A330s.

The Ceo of Iran Air has said that flights to Sydney, Adelaide, Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur will be launched with the 777's.

Adelaide? There is a Afghan community there but nothing substantial, I would've thought Melbourne over Adelaide considering it has for one a sizable Iranian/Persian community and a larger Afghan community also

Connecting traffic from KBL? A mix of A320/ATR 72 aircraft from IKA to KBL could make an easy connecting route. Since options out of KBL are limited, Iran Air could easily compete with EK by offering cheaper flights.

persiangulf93 · Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:08 am

Blerg · Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:27 am

Has IR grown its short-haul fleet since the first A321 joined the fleet?

fltbumped · Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:14 pm

Blerg wrote:
Has IR grown its short-haul fleet since the first A321 joined the fleet?

"not the Short Haul but rather regionals have been expanded with the 8 ATRs, the ninth was pictured in AA, on the verge of delivery?"

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