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Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:58 pm

Phenomenon to ph aviation history: not 1 'true' a321neo review until now.
 
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:53 pm

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... n-bautista

This was not posted yet here.please,no,no skyteam alliance!

LoL.a picture of pals A330 @ zrh.:) presidential stopover flight,where?hehe (ch-aviation: confederation helvetica CH,which means news portal is swiss aviation based,accurate)
Two years time to join an alliance?!whoot.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:02 am

SleeplessInZh wrote:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/70623-philippine-airlines-has-begun-alliance-accession-bautista

This was not posted yet here.please,no,no skyteam alliance!

LoL.a picture of pals A330 @ zrh.:) presidential stopover flight,where?hehe (ch-aviation: confederation helvetica CH,which means news portal is swiss aviation based,accurate)
Two years time to join an alliance?!whoot.


PR joining SkyTeam, at least for me, would be very welcome news.

For starters, it would help solidify the alliance's hold on the SE Asia-U.S. market by allowing it to leverage its relationships with VN and GA to generate additional feed. MU, CZ, CI and KE already hold much of that market and adding PR to the mix would help strengthen it.

More personally, I'd be willing to shift more of my flying to PR if it means being able to earn MQMs on DL as a Tier 1 partner, though that would be a long-shot unless DL is planning to put money into PR or is the one sponsoring its application to SkyTeam.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:36 am

Philippine Airlines A359 RP-C3504 on departure from TLS on delivery flight

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Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:08 pm

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Philippine Airlines A359 RP-C3504 on departure from TLS on delivery flight

Thank you very much for that. It seems my expectation in #555 of the A359 making an early appearance at LAX may come true..... :smile: .....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... r-lax.html

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"Philippine Airlines (PAL) has began its first long haul flight to London (PR720) on September 16. Its second long haul debut is Los Angeles scheduled on September 22. It is scheduled to fly regularly to New York beginning October 29. Since arrival of the aircraft type, the airline has been doing regional flights to Hong Kong, Bangkok, and Tokyo, as well as Presidential flights to Israel and Jordan."

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Should the second A359 frequency to LAX become a regular thing, then we could see the ex-IB A340's days there numbered..... :wave: .....

.....and the slot taken over by this..... :bigthumbsup: ......


From SkyscraperCity, the disruption caused by typhoon Ompong has again highlighted the need to extend MCIA T2's Center Concourse soonest......

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.....which the Government should complement with the assignment of more qualified immigration personnel.


In another development, Panglao Airport is almost complete and looking to give Caticlan a run for its money..... :thumbsup: ......

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Meanwhile, the onslaught of press releases continue.....

https://business.inquirer.net/257480/do ... early-2019

https://www.philstar.com/business/2018/ ... rt-project
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:41 pm

Hey Devil', or anyone else who may have a good tap on the rumor mill at PR, I'm wondering if there's still any chatter about SAN making it to the PR route map anytime in the foreseeable future?

One reason I ask, speaking of route maps, is that I was just noticing that on the PR "Where We Fly" map, SAN is listed, along with LAS (and some other US cities to be sure) but SEA, for example, is NOT listed. I assume these are just some random cities someone put on the map that have nothing to do with any exciting news.

SAN now has our brand new, state-of-the-art FIS facilities up and running so there's plenty of room at any time of day, for new international flights! I for one would still LOVE to see the Sunburst calling regularly at Lindbergh Field!

Just thought I'd ask if there was anything new on the topic of expansion out of Manila?

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Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:06 pm

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Hey Devil', or anyone else who may have a good tap on the rumor mill at PR, I'm wondering if there's still any chatter about SAN making it to the PR route map anytime in the foreseeable future?

One reason I ask, speaking of route maps, is that I was just noticing that on the PR "Where We Fly" map, SAN is listed, along with LAS (and some other US cities to be sure) but SEA, for example, is NOT listed. I assume these are just some random cities someone put on the map that have nothing to do with any exciting news.

SAN now has our brand new, state-of-the-art FIS facilities up and running so there's plenty of room at any time of day, for new international flights! I for one would still LOVE to see the Sunburst calling regularly at Lindbergh Field!

Just thought I'd ask if there was anything new on the topic of expansion out of Manila?

bb


PR sells onward tickets from LAX/SFO to SAN, LAS, DFW, etc, and v.v. on AA flights, so that’s why these cities are on PR’s route map.

As for future routes, ORD via YVR seems to be the clear first choice, with several cities like MIA, SEA, and even SAN, making a bit of noise from the rumor mills.
 
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Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:20 pm

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Hey Devil', or anyone else who may have a good tap on the rumor mill at PR, I'm wondering if there's still any chatter about SAN making it to the PR route map anytime in the foreseeable future?

Sorry to disappoint but I'm the wrong person to ask. Am dependent as most everyone else here on the the blurb that PR puts out in the media...or stuff that bloggers come up with. If anything, it'd likely be as carlokiii says above. That said, I still believe a lot depends on what aircraft PR will pick for the resumption of their CEB-LAX route.....(from #457).....

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1750 ... T2-opening


:airplane: So, FIS or no, so much hinges on the demand and the plane type for SAN to happen...hopefully in the near future. :crossfingers:
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:18 pm

Thanks guys. Kind of what I suspected but I just like to keep checking!

I will remain hopeful.

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Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:10 pm

Just a heads up for LAX spotters... :alert: ... PR's second A359, RP-C3503 is now enroute to Los Angeles as PR112. Nice to know that the 4th is about to do its second test flight. A pity the 5th and 6th are not due till middle of next year so this can be made a more or less regular deployment. No picture of RP-C3504 at LHR has been uploaded to the database yet...owing perhaps to its evening arrival. :|

For those flying to CEB, runway 04/22's A/C overlay and lighting upgrades have just been finished...so smoother landings and takeoffs can now be expected. From SkyscraperCity... :thumbsup: ...

GOOD NEWS: Resurfacing of Mactan Cebu International Airport’s main runway is now COMPLETE!


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Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:32 pm

APEX honors Pals Inflight services and cabin innovations.good job pal.congrats!
ThePointsGuy is on the photo.:)
Facebook page=>Philippine Airlines
 
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:32 pm

https://youtu.be/REv3IvOLMlI

Pals A350, london.
Hoping for reviews!
 
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:05 pm

A welcome announcement..... :cheerful: .....

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2018/


And even better is the chatter that PR is not charging their full Y+ fare but only $100 extra on Y for "Choice Seats" (which are actually the PE section) :!: :bigthumbsup:

Only letdown is I won't be flying home till 2020. :sigh:
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Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:45 pm

They'll have so much space,if they'll finalize their 6 other A350s options.no more guessing,where their A350s will evtl fly.i hope they'll take that chance and announce it by next year,that they will order more A350s.
Dubai could then finally be served by the A350-900s by maybe 2021/2022.
 
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:28 am

Looks like PR is restarting international service from ZAM, launching flights to BKI starting April 2019 as part of the BIMP-EAGA open skies agreement.

KOTA KINABALU: Plans are afoot for the inauguration of the proposed Zamboanga-Kota Kinabalu flight to be operated by Philippine Airlines (PAL) express.

With the agreement of parties concerned, Deputy Chief Minister cum Minister of Tourism, Culture and Environment, Christina Liew said the tentative date for launching of the maiden flight is April 1st next year after advising PAL to seek clearance from the relevant authorities.

“I am in favour of collaboration in respect of an exchange of tourists whereby it will be a two-way flow from Zamboanga to Kota Kinabalu, and vice versa,” she said during a courtesy call by a 12-member delegation from PAL, Sabah Tourism Board (STB), BIMP-.EAGA Business Council Inc., and Kadazandusun Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Malaysia (KCCI).


This may be part of a wider expansion of service ex-ZAM, including starting service to CRK, restarting service to TWT/SGS and expanding DVO to daily service.
 
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Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:57 am

Noted at Clark CRK there are three 3 Cebu pac ATR72-212s parked/stored and also at Manila MNL seems to be another three 3 ATR72-212s parked/stored - can anyone provide the registrations of these aircraft please
 
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Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:36 pm

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/phi ... ty-rating/

I knew already from a previous post, that pal is 2nd safest airline in Asean,next ASEAN airline to singapore airlines,
but was still relatively low ranked.(handelsblatt.ch)
i'm glad that airlineratings gave them now the highest score.
Old news:)
 
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:33 pm

Its been a while since I posted something in the trend but this I think is worthy to update.

PAL is delaying the lunch of its 3 times weakly flight between Manila to Sapporo which originally was supposed to begin this Oct 8. However it is know moved to Dec 7 which will be winter by that time.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2018/
 
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Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:02 pm

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Looks like PR is restarting international service from ZAM, launching flights to BKI starting April 2019 as part of the BIMP-EAGA open skies agreement.

KOTA KINABALU: Plans are afoot for the inauguration of the proposed Zamboanga-Kota Kinabalu flight to be operated by Philippine Airlines (PAL) express.

With the agreement of parties concerned, Deputy Chief Minister cum Minister of Tourism, Culture and Environment, Christina Liew said the tentative date for launching of the maiden flight is April 1st next year after advising PAL to seek clearance from the relevant authorities.

“I am in favour of collaboration in respect of an exchange of tourists whereby it will be a two-way flow from Zamboanga to Kota Kinabalu, and vice versa,” she said during a courtesy call by a 12-member delegation from PAL, Sabah Tourism Board (STB), BIMP-.EAGA Business Council Inc., and Kadazandusun Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Malaysia (KCCI).


This may be part of a wider expansion of service ex-ZAM, including starting service to CRK, restarting service to TWT/SGS and expanding DVO to daily service.


I should've noted here that PR was also considering restarting service to SDK, something that 5J is also planning to do.
 
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:12 pm

According to CAPA, PAL has quietly retired there remaining fleet of four Airbus A340-300 the ones that where formerly from Iberia. Quite sad honestly there wasn't any celebration or special video liked the Boeing 747-400 back in 2014.

https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... out-442095
 
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:35 pm

That was a good read. It sure felt like the A340s inevitably became the unwanted necessities of PAL, especially with the later acquired used frames.

Sad to see another long-time A340 flier retire its last A340.

With this, PR has finally retired all the quads in the fleet.
 
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:06 pm

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It sure felt like the A340s inevitably became the unwanted necessities of PAL, especially with the later acquired used frames.

Apart from the efficiency and maintenance disadvantages of the A340 which advanced its retirement, it was perhaps also due to popular response and feedback that the A350's temporary deployment to LAX was accelerated and extended.

carlokiii wrote:
Sad to see another long-time A340 flier retire its last A340.

With this, PR has finally retired all the quads in the fleet.

Hopefully, to be replaced by these eventually -- from the A350 P&D thread...and I quote:

audidudi wrote:
PR's fourth A350 was delivered today:

Airbus A350-941 243 RP-C3506 Philippine Airlines delivery 09 Oct 2018 TLS-MNL ex F-WZFP


Any delivery photos of this particular frame available?


Meanwhile, PAL has confirmed the launch date, departure and arrival terminal @ MNL, of their nonstop A350 flight to JFK..... :arrow:

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Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:54 pm

Yes,finally!bye bye A340s ex iberia.your ugly cabin will be missed;)haha.
More A359s please!
 
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:09 pm

Are the 7 A330s of pal leased?2 A330s are pal express planes?
i think 8 A330s are purchased,thats why they could refurbish them?is it harder to refurbish a leased aircraft than the one you have bought?just curious about this,i don't know much about leasing agreements
 
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:22 am

There is one beautiful pic of rp-c3506.in jetphotos devilfish
Pal 5003 in flightradar24.:)
 
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:09 am

Thanks for the info. This it is then...nice photo as always from A.net contributor DN280..... :bigthumbsup: .....

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9088795


Also noted in the A350 P&D thread by (and I quote)..... :cheerful: .....

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 243 (PR#4) flying home as PR5003. #206. #64 of 2018. #3 in October
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:01 pm

Now up in the a.net database too..... :thumbsup: .....



What goes around comes around...hope they saved the old signage..... :spin: .....

https://www.philstar.com/nation/2018/10 ... r-gmas-dad


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So... where are we with the construction of the new CRK Terminal 2 :?: From SkyscraperCity..... :wideeyed: .....

Ground works on the new terminal site taken last week. Cranes are up, excavations and foundations are on-going.

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As of August 31, 2018 Construction-on-going: 23.26% Complete.

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:scratchchin: I wonder if they would ever begin NAIA's redevelopment? :hissyfit:
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:06 pm

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:scratchchin: I wonder if they would ever begin NAIA's redevelopment? :hissyfit:


Not much hope for that, unfortunately. I'm going keep on going thinking it won't happen so it'll be a happy surprise when they start.

As for CRK, it's back to being Diosdado Macapagal International Airport. I was just getting used to calling it Clark...

https://news.mb.com.ph/2018/10/10/clark-intl-airport-is-now-diosdado-macapagal-international-airport-after-house-bill-approval-honoring-1st-kapampangan-president/

And PVG-CRK is back on MU starting Nov. 20 4x weekly. It's good to have more Skyteam access to CRK.

http://ph.ceair.com/newwebsite/ph/kelake/index.html
 
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:10 pm

And Subic Bay is getting some attention to bring back international flights and, at the very least, commercial flight schools for PR and MU.

https://businessmirror.com.ph/sbma-setting-up-subic-airport-for-international-flights/
 
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:12 am

Just one to updated the status of PAL A340-300 fleet I've read that they are stored in CRK until 2021 and have been place as reserve aircraft.
 
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:39 am

International flights @ subic?
So much about the talks,'warnings' from airlines, opening too many airports in manila...now with subic bay.this will come with a hefty security issue.i hope they are wise enough, to close it down again,once a major airport is built.
 
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:35 pm

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Not much hope for that, unfortunately. I'm going keep on going thinking it won't happen so it'll be a happy surprise when they start.

As for CRK, it's back to being Diosdado Macapagal International Airport. I was just getting used to calling it Clark...

I don't know...they had recently given the NAIA Consortium OPS status but no clear cut upgrade design (comparable to M/GMR's) of NAIA has been made public until now. Meanwhile, CRK T2 is well on its initial construction stage..... :thumbsup: .....from SkyscraperCity.....

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In other developments.....Panglao is nearing completion..... :cheerful:

source: Bohol Airport Project Management Office, uploaded 13 October 2018

https://www.facebook.com/DOTrPH/videos/ ... =2&theater

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Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:32 pm

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And Subic Bay is getting some attention to bring back international flights and, at the very least, commercial flight schools for PR and MU.

People have been complaining about how CRK is inaccessible from the urban centers to succeed...well, Subic is even more remote. IMO, Subic/Cubi Pt. is better left as a secure joint use facility for the Philippine Navy and Air Force - with a commercial component. Let the greedy developers eyeing NAIA build their resort and gaming enclaves there in that vicinity instead...to support the facilities' upkeep. The scheme could generate plenty of jobs and income for the local economy.....

http://www.mysubicbay.com.ph/upload/ima ... 5612-7.jpg
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Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:19 pm

Bulacan airport!2 months more to wait.tugade promissed.after these 2 months i'm done with tugade, never ever talk again about the airport.
 
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:06 pm

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Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:23 pm

Again,i asked that question about the 7 A330s.about 'leasing-agreements' that might come with 'attachments' by the leasing company to refurbish the remaining 7 A330s.but noone could ever answer it.
I don't know how many of the A330s belongs to Pal express,because they don't name their planes 'Pal express'!!!they are just all 'Philippine Airlines' or 'PHILIPPINES'
Iberia named their Iberia Express,why can't Pal do it on the fuselage with Pal Express?Big and Visible!
Passengers may fly with philippine airlines, not knowing its operated by low cost- pal express?so they'll give the bad review on skytrax not knowing exactly it was a pal express flight?^^
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:40 pm

Isn't PAL Express basically just a crewing subsidiary for PAL itself those days, focusing on mainly domestic with limited international? It looks like a similar arrangement to QF's Jetconnect for some NZ services.

Quote according to wiki.

As of March 2014, PAL Express began carrying the brand name Philippine Airlines through a cooperative agreement with PAL. This strategy is intended to harmonize the two carriers in order to make them more competitive, ensure leadership and superior core services, and enhance the efficiency and profitability of both carriers.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:21 am

"I asked that question about the 7 A330s.about 'leasing-agreements' that might come with 'attachments' by the leasing company to refurbish the remaining 7 A330s.but noone could ever answer it"

I heard from another fourm that some of the Bi-class config A330 will undergo heavy maintenance next year, this could be an opportunity to refurbished some of them to Tri-class config.

"I don't know how many of the A330s belongs to Pal express,because they don't name their planes 'Pal express'!!!they are just all 'Philippine Airlines' or 'PHILIPPINES"

All of the A330-300 are with mainline PAL. also the Original 8 Mono-class A330 where supposed to be with PAL Express. However all of them where eventually delivered or transferred to the Mainline fleet of PAL.

"Iberia named their Iberia Express,why can't Pal do it on the fuselage with Pal Express?Big and Visible!
Passengers may fly with philippine airlines, not knowing its operated by low cost- pal express?so they'll give the bad review on skytrax not knowing exactly it was a pal express flight?"

I also have the same question! I wonder why PAL doesn't separately brand Airphil planes as "PAL Express" also I think giving them a separate identity aside from "Philippines" or Operted by: Air Philippines Corporation. would allow Pax to differentiate 2P from PR. I guess PAL wanted to harmonize the Passenger Experience between both, However there still should be something to tell Passenger that PR and 2P are two separate airlines companies or 2P is a subsidiary of PR.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:08 am

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I heard from another fourm that some of the Bi-class config A330 will undergo heavy maintenance next year, this could be an opportunity to refurbished some of them to Tri-class config.

For me...much more preferable if PR would replace those with the A338 and configure it with the tri-class layout..... :cheerful: .....

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Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:20 am

SCFlyer wrote:
Isn't PAL Express basically just a crewing subsidiary for PAL itself those days, focusing on mainly domestic with limited international? It looks like a similar arrangement to QF's Jetconnect for some NZ services.

Quote according to wiki.

As of March 2014, PAL Express began carrying the brand name Philippine Airlines through a cooperative agreement with PAL. This strategy is intended to harmonize the two carriers in order to make them more competitive, ensure leadership and superior core services, and enhance the efficiency and profitability of both carriers.


They need to change this by now!
Pal express/Air Philippines is ranked by 97...not sure
Philippine Airlines is leveled @ 49.
It will not go well, for Philippine Airlines, if they put them together as one brand.the one, full carrier and the other low-cost.
Pal Express should be operating domestic routes!
While international flights should be ONLY carried by Philippine Airlines.
They should devide!it is confusing to pax!
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:16 pm

Since we are in the topic of PAL Subsidiary. Mabuhay Maritime Express will be launching ferry service between Kalibo to Boracay. I know this is kind off topic but I do find it odd that PAL is the parent company.

https://business.inquirer.net/259450/pa ... ervice/amp
 
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Devilfish
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:05 pm

According to GMA news, four regional airlines are set to transfer to NAIA T3 from T1 to make way for PAL's US flights to operate more efficiently at T1.....

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/co ... 018/story/

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The airlines and their respective transfer are:

Qantas Airways—October 28

United Airlines—October 28

Qatar Airways—December 1

Turkish Airlines—January 1


As I have said before...they should just let PR use a bigger area of T1 for its international operations! :yes:


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The white wall boarded up in Terminal 3
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Meanwhile, Congress approves substitute bill creating Philippine Airport Development Corporation.....

https://news.mb.com.ph/2018/10/24/house ... rporation/

Different name...same anomalies :?: :stirthepot:



Two regional airport projects advance..... :arrow:

https://business.inquirer.net/259452/2- ... ts-advance

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"Other unsolicited airport projects that have won OPS under President Duterte included Naia Consortium’s P102-billion plan for Manila’s Ninoy Aquino International Airport and San Miguel Corp.’s P800-billion proposal to build a new international airport in Bulacan province."

Can the Government focus first on both these more urgent needs above before they get sidetracked by other concerns? :spin:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:33 pm

"If an airline leases a new aircraft on a 12 year lease, end of lease (EOL) negotiations will usually start in Y10 if the leasee has plans to do anything other than return the aircraft at the end of the 12th year.

The EOL balloon payment, usually includes the leasee making a payment to the leasor sufficient to replace the interior, or they negotiate a discount of the EOL payment based on the value applied to the current interior.

If a leasee of a new aircraft on a 12 year lease wants to replace the interior say at the halfway mark, and plans to return the aircraft to the leasor at the end of the lease, they will try to negotiate a new (higher) EOL interior valuation with the leasor, before embarking on the changes.

Changing a complete interior is pretty unusual mid lease, because it puts the leasor in a strong bargaining position at end of lease. A case of the leasee showing their hand, for example increasing the odds the lease will be extended."

-From B777x thread.from my question about 'leasing agreements' of aircrafts and refurbishments.i still don't get it.a reply from smartplane-
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:57 pm

So this means,if an airline leased a new aircraft from f.e Aercap,with old interiors,the airline can't just change the interior,the way the airline likes?the airline must wait years, to do new refurbishments with the leased aircraft,because the lessor (Aercap) will be in bargaining position.?
omg i think i'm stupid,i can't fully understand...
There are like 0 Explainations in wiki about 'leasing agreements' of aircrafts!
I think all airline leasing companies are different?
 
PR77W
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:05 am

Article from Flight Global which states the PAL will soon retired there A340-300 for good.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -t-452909/
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:28 pm

Attention spotters...PR126 now on its nonstop flight to JFK..... :wave: ..... :yummy:

https://www.wheninmanila.com/look-you-c ... xt-flight/
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From SkyscraperCity.....exterior landscaping has given MCIA T2 a refreshing, verdant atmosphere..... :mrgreen: .....

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It seems business is slow at The Cabin..... :sigh: .....

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Are Red Horse, San Mig & bahalina included in their beverage list? :duck:


Plenty of nice photos of Panglao Airport uploaded on SkyscraperCity..... :bigthumbsup: .....

source: @ctto Phil Cagayat
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SleeplessInZh
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:30 pm

I'm excited about Pals A350 non-stop new york!hopefully the points guy will attend the flight out of new york!
Updates are in Pals Fb page.
 
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Devilfish
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm

An article in CAPA is saying the new Terminal 2 under construction at CRK will likely be a "hybrid" LCCT of sorts..... :scratchchin: .....

https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/ ... cct-440998

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Which implies that CRK T2 will essentially serve a supportive role to NAIA or to what could eventually replace the latter as the country's premier gateway.....

https://www.philstar.com/business/2018/ ... rise-clark


Meanwhile, the BCDA is reportedly proceeding with the CRK O&M Contract bidding next week after months of delay. :spin:


In other news, the MIAA is pushing for an increase of the terminal fees at NAIA.... :house:
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amadorE175
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:09 am

Where's CRK's T2 supposed to be situated? I can see to get a handle on that. Would it be next to T1? On the other side of the airport? If next to T1, I wish they would improve the roads into the airport to make access from the expressway more direct. It's a bit circuitous to get there now.
 
HJM
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread 2018

Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:54 am

it appears that PR new A350 was recently in YVR. Airport upgrade to Premium Economy was only CAD150 for any economy class ticket.

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