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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:01 am

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It looks like SEA-CDG is going to a 76T this fall and HKG will remain a 77E for the foreseeable future. Do you happen to know how they’ll cycle the planes into SEA once this happens or are they just going to leave a couple of planes on that route and do occasional swaps?

The winter schedule is a work in progress - especially for the 772/77L fleet. Mostly because they will probably all go through Delta Suites installations during that period. As of today, only MSP-HND and SEA-HKG are scheduled on the 772 during that time so it obviously doesn't work. There will be a lot of swaps with 77L routes as those go through maintenance. I'm sure DL will want to sequence through priority the routes it puts the 777 Delta Suites planes on and that will lead to the rest to eventually fall into place.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:28 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/4
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N177DN)
763ER-high J: LHR-MSP ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N183DN)
763ER-high J: JFK-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N185DN)
763ER-high J: CVG-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N174DZ)
763ER-high J: ATL-CVG ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1604R)
763ER-high J: ATL-SEA ferry flight - maintenance exit [21 days] (N1613B)
763ER-low J: scheduled additional ATL-MSP flight (N193DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-DTW-AMS route (N852NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-BOS-AMS route (N858NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:16 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
G500Captain wrote:
It looks like SEA-CDG is going to a 76T this fall and HKG will remain a 77E for the foreseeable future. Do you happen to know how they’ll cycle the planes into SEA once this happens or are they just going to leave a couple of planes on that route and do occasional swaps?

The winter schedule is a work in progress - especially for the 772/77L fleet. Mostly because they will probably all go through Delta Suites installations during that period. As of today, only MSP-HND and SEA-HKG are scheduled on the 772 during that time so it obviously doesn't work. There will be a lot of swaps with 77L routes as those go through maintenance. I'm sure DL will want to sequence through priority the routes it puts the 777 Delta Suites planes on and that will lead to the rest to eventually fall into place.


I am seeing LAX-HND, JFK-TLV, JFK-CDG and the alternating LAX-AMS/CDG as the scheduled 242 tonne A330-300 flights for the end of October 2018-end of March 2019 schedule. That needs six aircraft out of the ten 242 tonne A330-300s in the fleet. The 777 mods should be in full gear during this period as you stated the only scheduled flights are SEA-HKG and MSP-HND, needing just four aircraft. The only scheduled 77L flights are ATL-JNB/PVG/NRT and the ATL-LAX-SYD rotation. That needs just seven aircraft. Assuming a spare in ATL, Delta can go through two 77L in mods with the fall/winter schedule. Previous reliable DL employees have indicated the 777-200ERs will be going through the mod lines first, interesting choice as the 77L had their interiors factory installed when they delivered and the 777-200ERs had their interiors modded with the 77L product. Probably maintenance related as the first 777 in mods right now is also getting a heavy check along with the new interior. In terms of aircraft swaps, the only route I anticipate the 777-200ERs filling in the for 77L fleet is ATL-NRT. Its only a loss of one aircraft per the schedule as ATL-NRT feeds off ATL-JNB, requiring three aircraft for ATL-JNB-ATL-NRT-ATL. I'm going to off on a limb and say Delta will finish up the 777 mods by the end of March 2019 and the 767-400ERs will begin at that time as well. Oh yeah and SEA-HKG appears to operating just five times a week during the fall/winter schedule.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:45 pm

Located in MCO I enjoy this thread and the constant updates, but is it just me, its just not the same anymore without the 744. I feel like its lost its punch missing where the 744 would charter off too..
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:09 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/4
763ER-high J: CVG-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N174DZ)
763ER-high J: ATL-CVG ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1604R)

I saw N1604R leave from Concourse B and head that way (pretty impressive watching it climb away while empty too). I looked and after that, it was going to Paris. Why on earth would you ferry both these aircraft empty and trade places? It looks like N174DZ arrived from Paris to Cincinnati before ferrying to ATL, and went down to Santiago late last night. Seems like a waste of time and money.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:32 pm

N776AU wrote:
I saw N1604R leave from Concourse B and head that way (pretty impressive watching it climb away while empty too). I looked and after that, it was going to Paris. Why on earth would you ferry both these aircraft empty and trade places? It looks like N174DZ arrived from Paris to Cincinnati before ferrying to ATL, and went down to Santiago late last night. Seems like a waste of time and money.


Cost and logistics. I'm certain DL tried to replace the scheduled 738, but if CVG didn't have any spare aircraft and/or crews, it would've had to ferry the aircraft anyway. And it's cheaper to operate a ferry flight than a live flight, so if DL didn't need the capacity, it's a more sensible option.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:45 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/5
763ER-high J: ATL-BRU commercial flight - maintenance exit [19 days] (N186DN)
763ER-low J: MSP-HNL route downgraded from 764 effective 4/5 (N193DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-RNO-NKT-ATL military charter (N197DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-MSP route (N852NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-PDX-AMS route (N858NW)
764: NRT-ATL ferry flight - maintenance swap (N839MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N840MH)
772: scheduled swap from 333 on CDG-MSP-CDG route (N862DA)
772: ATL-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N866DA)
333: scheduled swap from 772 on CDG-SEA route (N801NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-MCO-MSP route - maintenance exit [14 days] (N815NW)
333: scheduled swap from 772 on SEA-CDG route (N816NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:26 pm

compensateme wrote:
N776AU wrote:
I saw N1604R leave from Concourse B and head that way (pretty impressive watching it climb away while empty too). I looked and after that, it was going to Paris. Why on earth would you ferry both these aircraft empty and trade places? It looks like N174DZ arrived from Paris to Cincinnati before ferrying to ATL, and went down to Santiago late last night. Seems like a waste of time and money.


Cost and logistics. I'm certain DL tried to replace the scheduled 738, but if CVG didn't have any spare aircraft and/or crews, it would've had to ferry the aircraft anyway. And it's cheaper to operate a ferry flight than a live flight, so if DL didn't need the capacity, it's a more sensible option.

I understand that part of it, but I mean why switch a high-J 767-300 for another high-J 767-300? Why not fly N174DZ back to Paris and N1604R to Santiago instead of ferrying them both and trading places?
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:31 pm

crownvic wrote:
Located in MCO I enjoy this thread and the constant updates, but is it just me, its just not the same anymore without the 744. I feel like its lost its punch missing where the 744 would charter off too..


It sucks tbh. If you ever come to ATL we have the 747 museum at the Delta Museum. Cost $15 for the museum but they offer half off when just 747 museum is open along with the shops.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:08 pm

N776AU wrote:
compensateme wrote:
N776AU wrote:
I saw N1604R leave from Concourse B and head that way (pretty impressive watching it climb away while empty too). I looked and after that, it was going to Paris. Why on earth would you ferry both these aircraft empty and trade places? It looks like N174DZ arrived from Paris to Cincinnati before ferrying to ATL, and went down to Santiago late last night. Seems like a waste of time and money.


Cost and logistics. I'm certain DL tried to replace the scheduled 738, but if CVG didn't have any spare aircraft and/or crews, it would've had to ferry the aircraft anyway. And it's cheaper to operate a ferry flight than a live flight, so if DL didn't need the capacity, it's a more sensible option.

I understand that part of it, but I mean why switch a high-J 767-300 for another high-J 767-300? Why not fly N174DZ back to Paris and N1604R to Santiago instead of ferrying them both and trading places?


That is usually an airframe maintenance issue, for which there are a ton of different reasons. Think MEL items maybe affecting ETOPS, available time or cycles before the next inspection and where that will be, an entry slot for the Z mod, etc. They just saw a reason to change up the rotations.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:43 pm

Narfish641 wrote:
crownvic wrote:
Located in MCO I enjoy this thread and the constant updates, but is it just me, its just not the same anymore without the 744. I feel like its lost its punch missing where the 744 would charter off too..


It sucks tbh. If you ever come to ATL we have the 747 museum at the Delta Museum. Cost $15 for the museum but they offer half off when just 747 museum is open along with the shops.


Thanks....I have been to that museum several times as it is one of the best in the world...I look forward to the fall collectors show in October 2018 as well as Airliners International 3 day show in summer 2019 at the museum!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:42 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/6
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-ATL-MSP-ATL route (N172DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: SEA-SFO-SEA ferry flights - ??? (N1613B)
763ER-low J: AMA-SLC ferry flight - paint exit [10 days] (N154DL)
763ER-low J: SLC-AMA ferry flight - paint entry (N181DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-JFK route (N197DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on JFK-AMS route (N855NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-JFK route (N858NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N841MH)
77L: ATL-NRT flight diverted to DTW - tech (N704DK)
333: PDX-AMS flight diverted to MSP - medical (N802NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:28 am

I wonder why N1613B ferried from SEA>SFO>SEA yesterday, and stayed less than 90 mins on the ground at SFO? Anyone?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1613B
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:39 pm

This threat has seriously redeemed a.net for me, so thanks everyone for such informative posts. I love watching how the operation accommodates all sorts of irregularities, from crew availability to maintenance to weather, etc. This thread gives you the big picture, which is much harder to get if you are tracking individual aircraft. I can see, for example, that the A333 did a Seattle turn out of Paris on April 5th, while the 777 did an MSP turn instead of the usual routing through SEA to HKG (perhaps for maintenance?). It would take forever to collect all of that information on an individual aircraft basis. Thanks everyone for the work!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:15 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/7
763ER-high J: unscheduled downgrade from 332 on JFK-LHR-JFK route (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 738 on SEA-JFK-SEA route (N1613B)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on LAX-ATL route (N188DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled downgrade from 77L on ATL-LAX route - maintenance exit L-to-Z [8 days] (N175DZ)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on JFK-CDG-ATL route (N854NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on JFK-FCO-JFK route (N859NW)
772: MSP-DTW-NRT ferry flight - passenger rescue (N866DA)
77L: NRT-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N704DK)
333: CDG-JFK flight cancelled - tech (N812NW)
333: LHR-DTW flight diverted to KEF - medical (N818NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:46 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/8
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-SFO-JFK route (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on SEA-SLC-DTW-SLC-SEA route (N1613B)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on CDG-ATL-AMS route (N854NW)
764: ILN-ATL ferry flight - maintenance exit [22 days] (N835MH)
764: ATL-ILN ferry flight - maintenance entry (N836MH)
772: NRT-ATL ferry flight - passenger rescue (N866DA)
77L: ATL-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N704DK)
333: CDG-JFK ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N812NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 738 on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N814NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on ATL-LHR route (N826NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:30 am

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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:46 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/9
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: BOS-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N174DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-TLS-ATL charter flight - frequent fliers picking up next A359 delivery (N174DN)
763ER-low J: CAN-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [36 days] (N180DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N188DN)
763ER-low J: SLC-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N197DN)
763ER-low J: BOS-CDG route migrates from high-J effective 4/9 (N197DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-PDX route (N854NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-AMS route (N857NW)
764: unscheduled downgrade from 77L on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N839MH)
772: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-ATL-MSP route (N860DA)
77L: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N703DN)
77L: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N703DN)
333: JFK-AMS ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N818NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:12 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/9
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: BOS-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N174DN)
763ER-high J: ATL-TLS-ATL charter flight - frequent fliers picking up next A359 delivery (N174DN)
763ER-low J: CAN-NRT ferry flight - maintenance exit [36 days] (N180DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N188DN)
763ER-low J: SLC-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N197DN)
763ER-low J: BOS-CDG route migrates from high-J effective 4/9 (N197DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-PDX route (N854NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-AMS route (N857NW)
764: unscheduled downgrade from 77L on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N839MH)
772: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-ATL-MSP route (N860DA)
77L: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N703DN)
77L: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N703DN)
333: JFK-AMS ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N818NW)

I don't think that N174DN operated the ATL>TLS>ATL charter flight shown above, as both FlightAware and FR24 show it operated a regular scheduled flight from ATL>SCL that same night, after the ferry flight from BOS>ATL! So which one operated the charter flight?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N174DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n174dn
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:43 am

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I don't think that N174DN operated the ATL>TLS>ATL charter flight shown above, as both FlightAware and FR24 show it operated a regular scheduled flight from ATL>SCL that same night, after the ferry flight from BOS>ATL! So which one operated the charter flight?

Sorry that should have said N178DN
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:30 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/10
763ER-high J: SLC-LAX ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N172DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on NRT-SEA-NRT route (N199DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on PDX-AMS route (N854NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N827MH)
772: SEA-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N861DA)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on DTW-LHR-DTW route (N802NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:00 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/11
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on LAX-DTW route (N171DN)
763ER-high J: DTW-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N171DN)
763ER-high J: TLS-ATL ferry flight - return flight of Chairman's Club (N178DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-STR-ATL route (N188DN)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-JFK-MXP route (N854NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on AMS-DTW route (N857NW)
772: MSP-SEA-MSP charter flight - ??? (N860DA)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:01 am

N509DN, the ninth A350-900, should be delivered this week. Not sure of the date though.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:42 am

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N509DN, the ninth A350-900, should be delivered this week. Not sure of the date though.

It is scheduled to depart around 9am on Friday 4/13 TLS-ATL DL9959
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:20 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
DeSpringbokke wrote:
N509DN, the ninth A350-900, should be delivered this week. Not sure of the date though.

It is scheduled to depart around 9am on Friday 4/13 TLS-ATL DL9959


Thanks. It appears the A350 line has slowed a little over the past month. Delta was supposed to receive the plane March 31. Looks like they won't receive the tenth A350-900 until late next month. Not to worry though. Delta will need 11 to operate DTW-AMS/NRT/ICN/PEK/PVG, ATL-ICN, and LAX-PVG.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:14 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
DeSpringbokke wrote:
N509DN, the ninth A350-900, should be delivered this week. Not sure of the date though.

It is scheduled to depart around 9am on Friday 4/13 TLS-ATL DL9959


After the 9th frame arrives, how many more are coming this year? Is it just two more this summer, or are there additional frames coming later in the year?
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:01 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/8

333: unscheduled upgrade from 738 on ATL-LAX-ATL route (N814NW)


And *you* get an upgrade from Y...and *you*...and *you*...
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:09 pm

FSDan wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
DeSpringbokke wrote:
N509DN, the ninth A350-900, should be delivered this week. Not sure of the date though.

It is scheduled to depart around 9am on Friday 4/13 TLS-ATL DL9959


After the 9th frame arrives, how many more are coming this year? Is it just two more this summer, or are there additional frames coming later in the year?


Another next month, probably towards the end, and the final one scheduled for the year probably around the end of June. Just two are scheduled for delivery next year and will be delivered in the first quarter.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:24 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/12
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on MXP-JFK-FCO route (N854NW)
764: seasonal JFK-ATH route inaugurated effective 4/12 (N827MH)
772: MSP-SEA ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N864DA)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:13 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/12
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on MXP-JFK-FCO route (N854NW)
764: seasonal JFK-ATH route inaugurated effective 4/12 (N827MH)
772: MSP-SEA ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N864DA)


Trying to find some domestic widebody flights, but don't see much except transcons. Are any of these
"aircraft activities" planned in advance and shown in Delta.com schedules or are they all last minute/
day of substitutions? Would love to catch a ride on some of these! Thank you!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:24 am

pdx wrote:
Trying to find some domestic widebody flights, but don't see much except transcons. Are any of these "aircraft activities" planned in advance and shown in Delta.com schedules or are they all last minute/day of substitutions? Would love to catch a ride on some of these! Thank you!

There are both scheduled and unscheduled widebody domestic swaps. I try to identify them in the notes when available. Scheduled wise over the next few weeks there is the following scheduled swaps SEA-JFK (4/16-763), ATL-DTW (5/3-76W), DTW-ATL (4/16-332), ATL-LAX (4/17-764), JFK-ATL (5/1-764), MSP-SEA (5/4 & 5/10-772) and DTW-ATL (4/19-77L).
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:55 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
pdx wrote:
Trying to find some domestic widebody flights, but don't see much except transcons. Are any of these "aircraft activities" planned in advance and shown in Delta.com schedules or are they all last minute/day of substitutions? Would love to catch a ride on some of these! Thank you!

There are both scheduled and unscheduled widebody domestic swaps. I try to identify them in the notes when available. Scheduled wise over the next few weeks there is the following scheduled swaps SEA-JFK (4/16-763), ATL-DTW (5/3-76W), DTW-ATL (4/16-332), ATL-LAX (4/17-764), JFK-ATL (5/1-764), MSP-SEA (5/4 & 5/10-772) and DTW-ATL (4/19-77L).


Thanks very much! Any swaps you're aware of on or after 25MAY? Love knowing these...especially for SEA or PDX!
I assume I can't look up this info online? Trying to plan a trip on a 767 or 777 end of May or June!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:11 am

pdx wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
pdx wrote:
Trying to find some domestic widebody flights, but don't see much except transcons. Are any of these "aircraft activities" planned in advance and shown in Delta.com schedules or are they all last minute/day of substitutions? Would love to catch a ride on some of these! Thank you!

There are both scheduled and unscheduled widebody domestic swaps. I try to identify them in the notes when available. Scheduled wise over the next few weeks there is the following scheduled swaps SEA-JFK (4/16-763), ATL-DTW (5/3-76W), DTW-ATL (4/16-332), ATL-LAX (4/17-764), JFK-ATL (5/1-764), MSP-SEA (5/4 & 5/10-772) and DTW-ATL (4/19-77L).


Thanks very much! Any swaps you're aware of on or after 25MAY? Love knowing these...especially for SEA or PDX!
I assume I can't look up this info online? Trying to plan a trip on a 767 or 777 end of May or June!

Why don't you try to do some random bookings on DL.com and see what aircraft show up as flying on those days, particularly on similar routes as "hkcanadaexpat" has provided? Seems like the obvious thing to do here!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:49 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/13
763ER-high J: JFK-CVG ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N176DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-LAX-OGG-LAX-ATL route (N178DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-MCO-MSP route (N179DN)
763ER-high J: CVG-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N1605)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on SEA-OGG-SEA route (N1611B)
763ER-low J: ATL-BRU route migrates from high-J effective 4/13 (N188DN)
763ER-low J: ATL-BIF-NBW-ATL military charter - maintenance exit Z-to-L [13 days] (N177DZ)
764: DUS-ATL flight cancelled - tech (N825MH)
359: TLS-ATL ferry flight - delivery flight (N509DN)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:51 pm

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/14
763ER-high J: LHR-MSP flight diverted to CVG - weather (N182DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 739 on ATL-SEA-ATL route (N186DN)
763ER-low J: MCO-AMS flight cancelled -tech (N154DL)
763ER-low J: MSP-HNL-MSP flight cancelled - weather (N192DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on LAX-HNL-LAX route (N199DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-SCL-ATL route (N177DZ)
332: JFK-DTW ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N858NW)
772: HND-MSP flight diverted to DTW - weather (N860DA)
333: AMS-MSP flight diverted to JFK - weather (N802NW)
333: MSP-AMS flight cancelled - weather (N802NW)
333: AMS-MSP flight diverted to DTW - weather (N806NW)
333: MSP-AMS flight cancelled - weather (N806NW)
333: CDG-MSP flight diverted to DTW - weather (N808NW)
333: MSP-CDG flight cancelled - weather (N808NW)
333: AMS-MSP flight diverted to CVG - weather (N818NW)
333: MSP-AMS flight cancelled - weather (N818NW)
333: CVG-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N818NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL route (N820NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:37 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/15
763ER-high J: CVG-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N182DN)
763ER-high J: MSP-HNL-MSP rescue flight (N182DN)
763ER-high J: JFK-BOS ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N184DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on BOS-SFO-BOS route (N184DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on SEA-OGG-SEA route (N1608)
763ER-low J: MCO-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N154DL)
763ER-low J: ATL-MCO ferry flight - aircraft repositioning / maintenance exit L-to-Z [8 days] (N173DZ)
332: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on MSP-ATL route - maintenance exit [10 days] (N852NW)
332: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MSP route - maintenance entry (N853NW)
332: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on DTW-MCO-DTW route (N858NW)
332: unscheduled downgrade from 333 on DTW-CDG-DTW route (N859NW)
764: ATL-HNL flight diverted to LAX - tech (N831MH)
772: DTW-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N860NW)
333: DTW-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N812NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from MD90 on ATL-MSP route (N818NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL route (N820NW)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:08 am

crownvic wrote:
Narfish641 wrote:
crownvic wrote:
Located in MCO I enjoy this thread and the constant updates, but is it just me, its just not the same anymore without the 744. I feel like its lost its punch missing where the 744 would charter off too..


It sucks tbh. If you ever come to ATL we have the 747 museum at the Delta Museum. Cost $15 for the museum but they offer half off when just 747 museum is open along with the shops.


Thanks....I have been to that museum several times as it is one of the best in the world...I look forward to the fall collectors show in October 2018 as well as Airliners International 3 day show in summer 2019 at the museum!


So much for putting the whole marching band as well as the alumni club on a single chartered 747-400 like in the past with Delta. I guess universities will have to charter two planes when going to the big games. Which will probably cost more. I mean, is there really zero demand for a 450+ passenger plane with almost unlimited cargo, even if only a few of them, at a massive airline like Delta?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:02 am

JackMeahoff wrote:
crownvic wrote:
Narfish641 wrote:

It sucks tbh. If you ever come to ATL we have the 747 museum at the Delta Museum. Cost $15 for the museum but they offer half off when just 747 museum is open along with the shops.


Thanks....I have been to that museum several times as it is one of the best in the world...I look forward to the fall collectors show in October 2018 as well as Airliners International 3 day show in summer 2019 at the museum!


So much for putting the whole marching band as well as the alumni club on a single chartered 747-400 like in the past with Delta. I guess universities will have to charter two planes when going to the big games. Which will probably cost more. I mean, is there really zero demand for a 450+ passenger plane with almost unlimited cargo, even if only a few of them, at a massive airline like Delta?


Those bands onnly come marching maybe a few times a year. Not enough to justify the expense of such a large a/c. Delta would need to utilize that size of a/c year round to justify acquisition.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:50 pm

DL 2x daily A350 DTW-AMS next few days:

April 16:
- DL132 N503DN A350
- DL138 N507DN A350

April 17:
- DL132 N502DN A350
- DL136 N508DN A350

April 18:
- DL132 N507DN A350
- DL134 N508DN A350
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:44 pm

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/16
763: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N140LL)
763: unscheduled upgrade from 321 on ATL-MCO-ATL route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on SLC-AMS route (N179DN)
783ER-high J: BOS-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N184DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MSP-ATL route - maintenance exit [7 days] (N1201P)
763ER-high J: seasonal JFK-NCE inaugurated effective 4/16 (N169DZ)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on NRT-SIN-NRT route (N1607B)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on NRT-SEA route (N152DL)
763ER-low J: scheduled upgrade from 752 on SEA-JFK route (N152DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-STR-ATL route (N394DL)
763ER-low J: NRT-CAN ferry flight - maintenance entry (N193DN)
763ER-low J: LAX-JFK flight diverted to PIT - medical (N199DN)
763ER-low J: SLC-CDG route migrates from high-J effective 4/16 (N171DZ)
763ER-low J: ATL-MCO ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N177DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on ATL-FRA route - maintenance exit L-to-Z [8 days] (N178DZ)
332: scheduled upgrade from 752 on DTW-ATL route (N859NW)
764: ATL-JFK ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N830MH)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 763ER-low J on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N843MH)
772: SEA-MSP ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N864DA)
772: MSP-SEA ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N865DA)
772: unscheduled swap from 77L on ATL-NRT-ATL route (N866DA)
77L: SIN-SEA ferry flight - maintenance exit [31 days] (N710DN)
333: unscheduled swap from 772 on ATL-CDG-ATL route (N814NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on ATL-MSP route (N815NW)
359: scheduled swap from 333 on DTW-AMS-DTW route (N507DN)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:05 pm

Is there a count for the 76L to 76Zs? Sounds like the mods are going through rather quickly. Not sure if the mods deserve its own thread.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:53 pm

DeSpringbokke wrote:
Is there a count for the 76L to 76Zs? Sounds like the mods are going through rather quickly. Not sure if the mods deserve its own thread.

Well the obvious thread to follow the mods, besides here, would be the 'Delta Aircraft Refurbishment 2018" if someone could provide the list of those birds which have already been modded. Perhaps "n515cr" could help if he reads this!
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:21 pm

DeSpringbokke wrote:
Is there a count for the 76L to 76Zs? Sounds like the mods are going through rather quickly. Not sure if the mods deserve its own thread.

N171DZ
N173DZ
N1602
N175DZ
N176DZ
N177DZ
N178DZ
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:56 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
DeSpringbokke wrote:
Is there a count for the 76L to 76Zs? Sounds like the mods are going through rather quickly. Not sure if the mods deserve its own thread.

N171DZ
N173DZ
N1602
N175DZ
N176DZ
N177DZ
N178DZ

Thanks for the list. So is the plan to still convert 14 birds total from 76L to 76Z then? I would assume that N169DZ, N172DZ, N174DZ, will be included, with perhaps N1200K, N1201P and the rest out of the 16** fleet #s?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:20 am

audidudi wrote:
So is the plan to still convert 14 birds total from 76L to 76Z then?

N169DZ
N172DZ (currently in mod)
N174DZ
N1603
N1604R
N1605
N16065
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:13 am

Noteworthy Aircraft Activity 4/17
763: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on ATL-SAN-ATL route (N1402A)
763ER-high J: ATL-SLC ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N175DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on SLC-AMS route (N175DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on CDG-BOS route (N176DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on AMS-BOS-AMS route (N179DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-MCO-MSP route (N183DN)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on BOS-CDG route (N1604R)
763ER-high J: unscheduled swap from low-J on NRT-HNL-NRT route (N1607B)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on STR-ATL-FRA route (N394DL)
763ER-low J: unscheduled upgrade from 753 on MSP-LAX-MSP route (N195DN)
763ER-low J: BRU-JFK ferry flight following previous day cancellation (N197DN)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on CDG-RDU-CDG route (N171DZ)
763ER-low J: unscheduled swap from high-J on FRA-DTW-FRA route (N178DZ)
332: 1x ATL-CDG daily migrates from 764 effective 4/17 (N859NW)
764: unscheduled upgrade from 752 on JFK-LAX-JFK route (N827MH)
764: scheduled downgrade from 77L on ATL-LAX route (N828MH)
764: LAX-ATL ferry flight - aircraft repositioning (N831MH)
77L: SEA-TCM-RMS military charter (N710DN)
333: AMS-MSP-ATL ferry flight - following 4/15 cancellation (N806NW)
333: unscheduled upgrade from 332 on ATL-LHR-ATL route (N827NW)
359: scheduled swap from 333 on DTW-AMS-DTW route (N508DN)
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:22 am

Narfish641 wrote:
Major engine fire for an A330-300 in ATL. Took off for LHR and 20-30 mins. in flight the right engine caught fire. The aircraft safely landed and they had the trucks come out to foam it out. I have a link to another thread where there are links to the images/ video are provided by the thread starter in that thread.

I'm not too sure what reg.# it is. But judging by the engines, they look like the PW4000 engines. Crazy incident.

Link to the other thread:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1391953

777mech posted it was 3306, I'd put my money on his info.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:22 am

Major engine fire for an A330-300 in ATL. Took off for LHR and 20-30 mins. in flight the right engine caught fire. The aircraft safely landed and they had the trucks come out to foam it out. I have a link to another thread where there are links to the images/ video are provided by the thread starter in that thread.

I'm not too sure what reg.# it is. But judging by the engines, they look like the PW4000 engines. Crazy incident.

Link to the other thread:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1391953
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:33 am

Narfish641 wrote:
Major engine fire for an A330-300 in ATL. Took off for LHR and 20-30 mins. in flight the right engine caught fire. The aircraft safely landed and they had the trucks come out to foam it out. I have a link to another thread where there are links to the images/ video are provided by the thread starter in that thread.

I'm not too sure what reg.# it is. But judging by the engines, they look like the PW4000 engines. Crazy incident.

Link to the other thread:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1391953

Usually the easiest way to find the reg # is by typing the flight # on FR24 (not on FlightAware!) However FR24 says it was N822NW, whereas FlightAware says it was N806NW. Why the discrepancy?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n822nw

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N806NW
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:56 am

audidudi wrote:
Narfish641 wrote:
Major engine fire for an A330-300 in ATL. Took off for LHR and 20-30 mins. in flight the right engine caught fire. The aircraft safely landed and they had the trucks come out to foam it out. I have a link to another thread where there are links to the images/ video are provided by the thread starter in that thread.

I'm not too sure what reg.# it is. But judging by the engines, they look like the PW4000 engines. Crazy incident.

Link to the other thread:

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1391953

Usually the easiest way to find the reg # is by typing the flight # on FR24 (not on FlightAware!) However FR24 says it was N822NW, whereas FlightAware says it was N806NW. Why the discrepancy?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n822nw

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N806NW


Yeah.... Most likely can't trust FlightAware for everything lol. Rookie mistake and lesson learned lol. XD
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