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alasizon
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:34 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Swadian wrote:

Why does the eastbound have an A320 while westbound does not?

Likely for aircaft repositioning.


More or less, the 321 runs PHL-SFO-PHX while the 320 goes PHX-SFO-PHL. The 320 flight gets into PHL after 7PM so not many connections to be made.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:47 pm

Runway28L wrote:
Swadian wrote:
Just confirming: 5DK (N692AA) will be the oldest AA aircraft following imminent MD-80 and 763 retirement?

Runway28L wrote:
MIA-SEA was most recently a 738 when I last checked FlightAware. I have seen MIA-SAN as a L-US A319 so that also has to be up there.

I probably should've said SFO-PHL instead of PHL-SFO because the eastbound has an A320 (AA855) but westbound is all-A321 and A332.


Why does the eastbound have an A320 while westbound does not?

Likely for aircaft repositioning.


What would be the longest in both directions?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:42 pm

Swadian wrote:
What would be the longest in both directions?


PHX-PHL and back. Outside of hub-hub, its likely PHX-BWI with CLT-UVF right behind that.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:37 am

USAirKid wrote:
alasizon wrote:
Updated Fleet Plan:
https://americanairlines.gcs-web.com/st ... a5694fdabb

Highlights:
333s here through at least the end of 2020
738 retirements pushed back a year (now starting 2020)
50 MAXes deferred from 2020-2022 to 2025 & 2026
Expedited winddown of the 763 fleet in 2020 (down to 5 by end of 2020)
12 788 deliveries in 2020
49 ERDs showing as sticking around through 2020 but I doubt that.



I found the American Eagle fleet plan to be fascinating. There are some pretty clear trends, the CRJ200s are being drastically reduced (surprise!) the Dash-8 variants go away, and there are a few more E175s.

But the parts I found interesting were the CRJ700 trend:
2017: 110
2018: 119
2019: 111
2020: 111

That 2018 bump seems weird, are they switching operators who bring their own CRJ700s? or are they taking a few new ones in for 2018 and retiring the oldest ones come 2019?

Also the ERDs seem to show AA picking up a few more planes from outside. As of 2017 they have 21 in service, and "At the end of the first quarter, the company had 23 ERJ140 regional aircraft in temporary storage, which are not included in the active regional ending fleet count." which means they own 44 total, but they'll be up to 49 of them by 202, so where do the last five come from?

How many cr2 are flying now? Also, which others are leaving beside the zw aircraft?
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:50 am

It looks cool I’ve seen a pic on a Facebook group.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:53 am

An A321T, N116AN, is exiting TUL tomorrow evening with a new (temporary) special promotional livery. I’d assume probably going to LAX or JFK.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:01 am

Boof02671 wrote:
It looks cool I’ve seen a pic on a Facebook group.

I saw it too! It looks nice!
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:03 am

AA321T wrote:
An A321T, N116AN, is exiting TUL tomorrow evening with a new (temporary) special promotional livery. I’d assume probably going to LAX or JFK.


Why use a 321T when it sees all of six airports? Unless its promoting something in one of those cities, it seems like we would benefit from the livery being applies to a general 321.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:24 pm

Another MD-80 sent to ROW for storage

N7528A / 528
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9653
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:11 pm

AA321T wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
It looks cool I’ve seen a pic on a Facebook group.

I saw it too! It looks nice!

Anyone have a link to the pic?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:03 am

AA321T wrote:
An A321T, N116AN, is exiting TUL tomorrow evening with a new (temporary) special promotional livery. I’d assume probably going to LAX or JFK.


Next revenue flight is planned for Tuesday, April 24
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N116AN

No pics of temporary livery to be found on Internet this far.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:37 am

robt760 wrote:
AA321T wrote:
An A321T, N116AN, is exiting TUL tomorrow evening with a new (temporary) special promotional livery. I’d assume probably going to LAX or JFK.


Next revenue flight is planned for Tuesday, April 24
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N116AN

No pics of temporary livery to be found on Internet thus far.


TUL to LAX ferry flight is now tonight, Su April 22
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:40 am

I’ve got a pic but it won’t let me paste it and when you click on photo it doesn’t work
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:57 am

soflaflyer wrote:
AA321T wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
It looks cool I’ve seen a pic on a Facebook group.

I saw it too! It looks nice!

Anyone have a link to the pic?

This is the one off Facebook. It’s a promotional decal for their partnership with Stand Up to Cancer and Marvel’s Avengers: Infinity War.

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Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:30 pm

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Sat May 05, 2018 3:07 am

15 x CR9 for PSA and 15 x E175 for Envoy:

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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 12:44 am

E145 N614AE is en route from ABI to RIC for transfer from Trans States Airlines to Piedmont. 44 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N614AE
 
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Fri May 11, 2018 8:27 pm

Another new 7M8 arrives today

N314RH / 3RH
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 3:53 am

Is there any update on the reconfigurations of the 737s and 321s?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 3:32 pm

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Is there any update on the reconfigurations of the 737s and 321s?


To my knowledge, reconfiguration has not begun yet. It is scheduled to begin in 2019 and finish in 2021. DL manages to pack in 192 seats despite having 1 more row of F, so I'm sure AA can figure out how to do 190.

Does anyone know if AA will be taking A321neo ACF? If so, the seating for the A321neo would still be different. Perhaps AA wants to get as close to 200 as possible to maximize returns on 4 FAs like they do with 150 seats in the A320.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 10:13 pm

Swadian wrote:
rj1385 wrote:
Is there any update on the reconfigurations of the 737s and 321s?


To my knowledge, reconfiguration has not begun yet. It is scheduled to begin in 2019 and finish in 2021. DL manages to pack in 192 seats despite having 1 more row of F, so I'm sure AA can figure out how to do 190.

Does anyone know if AA will be taking A321neo ACF? If so, the seating for the A321neo would still be different. Perhaps AA wants to get as close to 200 as possible to maximize returns on 4 FAs like they do with 150 seats in the A320.


According to that AA Fleet Google Docs site, N979AN was updated to the new interior configuration (16/156). Looking at FlightAware, it sat in Tulsa from the beginning of April and just now arrived back in DFW.
Anyone have eyes on it and can check the interior configuration?
 
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Sun May 13, 2018 11:09 pm

AAKiddo wrote:
Swadian wrote:
rj1385 wrote:
Is there any update on the reconfigurations of the 737s and 321s?


To my knowledge, reconfiguration has not begun yet. It is scheduled to begin in 2019 and finish in 2021. DL manages to pack in 192 seats despite having 1 more row of F, so I'm sure AA can figure out how to do 190.

Does anyone know if AA will be taking A321neo ACF? If so, the seating for the A321neo would still be different. Perhaps AA wants to get as close to 200 as possible to maximize returns on 4 FAs like they do with 150 seats in the A320.


According to that AA Fleet Google Docs site, N979AN was updated to the new interior configuration (16/156). Looking at FlightAware, it sat in Tulsa from the beginning of April and just now arrived back in DFW.
Anyone have eyes on it and can check the interior configuration?


It was the first of many 738 models to be reconfigured to the MAX interior. The cabin is identical to the MAX now.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 11:38 pm

AAKiddo wrote:
Swadian wrote:
rj1385 wrote:
Is there any update on the reconfigurations of the 737s and 321s?


To my knowledge, reconfiguration has not begun yet. It is scheduled to begin in 2019 and finish in 2021. DL manages to pack in 192 seats despite having 1 more row of F, so I'm sure AA can figure out how to do 190.

Does anyone know if AA will be taking A321neo ACF? If so, the seating for the A321neo would still be different. Perhaps AA wants to get as close to 200 as possible to maximize returns on 4 FAs like they do with 150 seats in the A320.


According to that AA Fleet Google Docs site, N979AN was updated to the new interior configuration (16/156). Looking at FlightAware, it sat in Tulsa from the beginning of April and just now arrived back in DFW.
Anyone have eyes on it and can check the interior configuration?

I’ve seen photos, it’s indeed the same configuration as the max including space bins, sky interior, and the new lavs. Though the photos I’ve seen the aft galley is the current one just retrofitted to accept atlas drawers and carts, I don’t know if they swapped that out after the photos were taken or not...
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Mon May 14, 2018 6:29 pm

AA321T wrote:
AAKiddo wrote:
Swadian wrote:

To my knowledge, reconfiguration has not begun yet. It is scheduled to begin in 2019 and finish in 2021. DL manages to pack in 192 seats despite having 1 more row of F, so I'm sure AA can figure out how to do 190.

Does anyone know if AA will be taking A321neo ACF? If so, the seating for the A321neo would still be different. Perhaps AA wants to get as close to 200 as possible to maximize returns on 4 FAs like they do with 150 seats in the A320.


According to that AA Fleet Google Docs site, N979AN was updated to the new interior configuration (16/156). Looking at FlightAware, it sat in Tulsa from the beginning of April and just now arrived back in DFW.
Anyone have eyes on it and can check the interior configuration?

I’ve seen photos, it’s indeed the same configuration as the max including space bins, sky interior, and the new lavs. Though the photos I’ve seen the aft galley is the current one just retrofitted to accept atlas drawers and carts, I don’t know if they swapped that out after the photos were taken or not...


Looks like they are refitting the older 738s with PTV first. Does anyone know if the 45 to 75 738s slated for retirement will receive the new interior?

Any other 738s refitted?

Will be interesting to see what becomes of the A321.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 1:01 am

Swadian wrote:
Looks like they are refitting the older 738s with PTV first. Does anyone know if the 45 to 75 738s slated for retirement will receive the new interior?

Any other 738s refitted?

Will be interesting to see what becomes of the A321.


The MAX does not have PTVs and the PTVs on the existing 738A subfleet will be ripped out as the aircraft receive their new configuration. By the time retrofits are finished, PTVs will only be offered on the A321T and widebodies.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 2:57 am

Any update on the 319s from F9? Any truth to the rumor about taking A332s from (I believe it was) EY?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 8:33 pm

OB1504 wrote:
Swadian wrote:
Looks like they are refitting the older 738s with PTV first. Does anyone know if the 45 to 75 738s slated for retirement will receive the new interior?

Any other 738s refitted?

Will be interesting to see what becomes of the A321.


The MAX does not have PTVs and the PTVs on the existing 738A subfleet will be ripped out as the aircraft receive their new configuration. By the time retrofits are finished, PTVs will only be offered on the A321T and widebodies.


I know, but N979AN was a 38D, not a 38A. So perhaps the 38D is getting refitted before the 38A, even though both are planned to be eventually refitted.

soflaflyer wrote:
Any update on the 319s from F9? Any truth to the rumor about taking A332s from (I believe it was) EY?


It appears that the A332 rumor may have been purely for parts; however, if EY retires the A332 due to their own woes, AA could buy some for accelerated retirement of the A333.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Wed May 16, 2018 5:18 am

YX E170 N357FC is now flying temporarily under American Eagle after previously filling in for United Express.

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n357fc
 
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Fri May 18, 2018 4:54 pm

AA is taking delivery of its 9th 7M8 today

N315RJ / 3RJ

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9701
 
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Tue May 22, 2018 6:41 pm

E145 N907AE is en route from MQT to RIC for transfer from Envoy to Piedmont. 45 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N907AE
 
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Wed May 23, 2018 12:37 am

jgcotter wrote:
E145 N907AE is en route from MQT to RIC for transfer from Envoy to Piedmont. 45 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N907AE

how many dash are still flying at piedmont?
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Wed May 23, 2018 1:04 am

Swadian, I believe 20 of the 45 have just been extended. So only 25 being returned for now.
 
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Wed May 23, 2018 5:10 am

aaflyer222 wrote:
jgcotter wrote:
E145 N907AE is en route from MQT to RIC for transfer from Envoy to Piedmont. 45 x E145 on property now at Piedmont.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N907AE

how many dash are still flying at piedmont?

5 x DH3 still flying at Piedmont: N327EN, N330EN, N333EN, N336EN, N337EN.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Wed May 23, 2018 5:11 am

I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Premium Economy, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.
 
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Wed May 23, 2018 2:19 pm

millionsofmiles wrote:
I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Premium Economy, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.


With Doug Parker around, it's probably not going to happen. I do wish they would keep the PTVs on a subfleet of A321s for longer routes, not just A321T. Perhaps we will see this with the A321neo if they decide to put flat bed J in some of them for Hawaii, Alaska, and South America.

By the way, there is no Premium Economy on the A321. PE is only on heavies.
 
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Wed May 23, 2018 2:38 pm

I'd rather have the leg room under the seats than the PTV,s. all day long.
 
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Wed May 23, 2018 4:05 pm

millionsofmiles wrote:
I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Main Cabin Extra, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.


Edited....I meant to type "Main Cabin Extra"...not "Premium Economy"
 
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Wed May 23, 2018 6:38 pm

millionsofmiles wrote:
I'm not feeling the removal of the PTVs from the majority of the fleet. Passengers perceive PTVs as "value." I know there are many arguments for the advent of streaming content to a PED but there are also numerous disadvantages.

I was traveling recently from LAX to CLT on a former US 321. I was on the aisle in Premium Economy, and when the window seat passenger sat down, he took one look at the blank seatback in front of him and said, "This plane sucks. Where's the TV?"

I really wish they would rethink their decision.


I get on a plane and sigh when I see TVs in the seatbacks. (If a plane is old and still has them overhead, I don't find that as sigh-inducing.)

They just add so much light and motion to the view of an airplane. They especially suck on a redeye where they really light up the cabin.

The other thing is I find most live TV just not to be worth it. I'd much rather have streaming media to a PED, or airline provided viewing screen.
 
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Thu May 24, 2018 6:15 am

N324RA (MAX8) is flying to JFK after a well visit to TUL. N304RB is currently arriving at TUL. What work is being done on the MAX 8 aircraft?
 
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Thu May 24, 2018 3:36 pm

UpNAWAy wrote:
I'd rather have the leg room under the seats than the PTV,s. all day long.


The newer PTVs do not have boxes under the seats to impede legroom.
 
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Thu May 24, 2018 4:08 pm

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N324RA (MAX8) is flying to JFK after a well visit to TUL. N304RB is currently arriving at TUL. What work is being done on the MAX 8 aircraft?

Modifications to the wifi system.
 
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Thu May 24, 2018 4:26 pm

AA321T wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
N324RA (MAX8) is flying to JFK after a well visit to TUL. N304RB is currently arriving at TUL. What work is being done on the MAX 8 aircraft?

Modifications to the wifi system.


Was thinking that was the case, thanks for confirming.
 
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Thu May 24, 2018 6:13 pm

Where is AA operating the MAX to/from right now? I saw they were going to be on DFW-ANC.
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Thu May 24, 2018 7:12 pm

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Where is AA operating the MAX to/from right now? I saw they were going to be on DFW-ANC.

MIA-LGA/UIO/POS/BOS/MCO/POP

MIA-DCA recently had a one-off MAX flight as well.
 
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Thu May 24, 2018 10:39 pm

A couple fleet related Q&As from this week's Arrivals newsletter.

Q. I’m really excited about our B787 order. With American’s continued growth, are there plans to not just replace aircraft but to expand the fleet, open new international routes and maybe even place an order for a larger aircraft like the B777X to take our network to new places? Or the B787-10?
A. Vasu Raja, vice president, Network & Schedule Planning: Our long-term plan is to grow about as fast as the U.S. economy grows. So, there is definitely some growth built into our fleet plan. Buying new planes is just one way to achieve that growth. Others include using larger aircraft, flying them farther [LAX-Sydney (SYD) was significant growth just from one route] or using our aircraft throughout more of the day, meaning scheduling them more efficiently. As for the B777X and the B787-10, those are both very large aircraft that aren’t in our current plan. However, our Network Planning and Fleet teams are always looking out into the future to evaluate our long-term needs.

Q. What is the timeline for getting our aircraft amenities/features and the look and feel “synced”?
A. David Seymour, senior vice president, Integrated Operations: Our interiors are not as consistent as any of us would like. There’s a project under way right now to fix that. We will be retrofitting our Boeing 737-800s to make their interiors the same as the new B737 MAX, including newer seats, larger overhead bins and power at every seat. The first of those aircraft just received the prototype installation at Tech Ops – Tulsa. We will start the production retrofit lines in late summer with completion scheduled for mid-2020. We’re doing the same thing on Airbus A321s, with interior overhauls beginning in early 2019 and done by the end of 2021.
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Fri May 25, 2018 1:11 am

Thank God AA identifies this aircraft separately - 7M8. Allows me to avoid this Hell Ship.
 
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Fri May 25, 2018 2:30 am

Operations: Our interiors are not as consistent as any of us would like. There’s a project under way right now to fix that. We will be retrofitting our Boeing 737-800s to make their interiors the same as the new B737 MAX, including newer seats, larger overhead bins and power at every seat.

This is so disingenuous when the finished product offers less in every seating class than what is offered today. They must know that.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Fri May 25, 2018 2:39 am

LAXintl wrote:
A couple fleet related Q&As from this week's Arrivals newsletter.

Q. I’m really excited about our B787 order. With American’s continued growth, are there plans to not just replace aircraft but to expand the fleet, open new international routes and maybe even place an order for a larger aircraft like the B777X to take our network to new places? Or the B787-10?
A. Vasu Raja, vice president, Network & Schedule Planning: Our long-term plan is to grow about as fast as the U.S. economy grows. So, there is definitely some growth built into our fleet plan. Buying new planes is just one way to achieve that growth. Others include using larger aircraft, flying them farther [LAX-Sydney (SYD) was significant growth just from one route] or using our aircraft throughout more of the day, meaning scheduling them more efficiently. As for the B777X and the B787-10, those are both very large aircraft that aren’t in our current plan. However, our Network Planning and Fleet teams are always looking out into the future to evaluate our long-term needs.

Q. What is the timeline for getting our aircraft amenities/features and the look and feel “synced”?
A. David Seymour, senior vice president, Integrated Operations: Our interiors are not as consistent as any of us would like. There’s a project under way right now to fix that. We will be retrofitting our Boeing 737-800s to make their interiors the same as the new B737 MAX, including newer seats, larger overhead bins and power at every seat. The first of those aircraft just received the prototype installation at Tech Ops – Tulsa. We will start the production retrofit lines in late summer with completion scheduled for mid-2020. We’re doing the same thing on Airbus A321s, with interior overhauls beginning in early 2019 and done by the end of 2021.


Sounds like the 78J is not the cards for quite some time. Another 787-9 order could end up replacing the rest of the 777-200ERs. As I have stated earlier, and I'm sure Vasu Raja would agree, the 777-300ER fleet is very young and will not to be replaced until ~2040. I think AA eventually operates both the 78J and 77X but the 78J will be introduced before the 77X.

How about syncing the 787-8 and 777-200ER fleets with the B/E Super Diamond seats instead of the Zodiac seats? The 22 787-8s on order will undoubtedly have the B/E Super Diamond product, making an inconsistent product. Its already inconsistent with the 777-200ER fleet. Yes, I know it would be expensive to order B/E Super Diamond seats to replace the Zodiac product, but its a terrible product with the motion across the ocean and unpopular.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Fri May 25, 2018 3:43 am

Runway28L wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Where is AA operating the MAX to/from right now? I saw they were going to be on DFW-ANC.

MIA-LGA/UIO/POS/BOS/MCO/POP

MIA-DCA recently had a one-off MAX flight as well.

The late MIA-DEN is one of the next routes to go to the MAX. They’re also running the 738K (the Oasis bird) on MIA-LAS exclusively for the next 5 days, will be interesting to see if that continues.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2018

Fri May 25, 2018 4:11 am

What is the Oasis bird.. haven’t heard that term
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