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WIederling
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:09 pm

mat66 wrote:
WIederling wrote:

Over the years OEW impact from MTOW expansion seems to have been minimal.
The step to NEO engines had higher impact.


Doesn’t this make the original A330 from the nineties too heavy / over built / compromised because of the A340?
Just a thought...


Overbuilt isn't really the correct designation.
The Quad's outboard engines provide load alleviation
and the larger Twin's engines on the inner pylons introduce much higher loads near the fuselage.

Overall this turns into similar loads for the center wing box and wings.

Elsewhere the higher MTOW of the Quad is taken up by the Center MLG leg.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:09 pm

First WOW air 339 enters final assembly

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... bl-447581/
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:54 pm

The A330neo is right now @ CBB/SLCB for tests, saw it personally today landing/taking off, doing low flight returns to SLCB.
 
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:30 am

JerseyFlyer wrote:
First WOW air 339 enters final assembly

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... bl-447581/

That pic must have been taken a while ago since the aircraft is already out of the FAL!
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:24 am

A330freak wrote:


What a handsome beast :)
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:10 pm

Sorry if this is the wrong topic, I couldn't find a A330NEO Flight test and Certification topic.
Airbus posted a newsrelease: Airbus’ A330neo continues toward its 2018 service entry.
The A330NEO has past the 200 test flight mark, and past the 700 flight hours mark. Certification is planned for the summer.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:50 am

The first A339 for WOW is now out of paint

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Mon May 07, 2018 8:52 pm

Someone said the winglets made it look like the A350.
That's outrageous! A huge offense!
If I was an A339 I would make my lawyers contact you...
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 2:20 am

ojjunior wrote:
Someone said the winglets made it look like the A350.
That's outrageous! A huge offense!
If I was an A339 I would make my lawyers contact you...


Lol. Well they are blended like the A350's. The WOW aircraft above shows it quite nicely with a similar curve.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 08, 2018 12:33 pm

I got all excited when I saw new notifications for this thread. I clicked on unread posts to find two of you talking about winglets. Any actual air frame updates?
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 08, 2018 2:54 pm

Good question...
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 08, 2018 3:02 pm

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ns-448408/

Airbus is expecting to increase the production rate for the A330 again from 2021. Half of A330 deliveries in 2019 should be neo.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 08, 2018 9:55 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-airbus-reveals-its-rate-expectations-448408/

Airbus is expecting to increase the production rate for the A330 again from 2021. Half of A330 deliveries in 2019 should be neo.

But he stresses that the lower rate “shouldn’t necessarily be representative of the future” and the A330 has “good prospects” for addressing fleet-replacement requirements from 2021.

Not sure that actually means rate will go up.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 pm

ojjunior wrote:
Someone said the winglets made it look like the A350.
That's outrageous! A huge offense!
If I was an A339 I would make my lawyers contact you.

Granted, I find the A350 to be a far better looking aircraft than the A330, or really just about anything else in the sky.... I'm not sure how the two can get confused, when their profiles look almost nothing alike beyond tube-with-wings+2.

If anything, I'd say it's easier to laterally confuse an A359 (in pictures) with a 752, considering how they both sit so high off the ground.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 5:53 pm

She is ready to fly soon !!! The first #Airbus #A330neo #tapairportugal performing taxi test this afternoon #CSTUA @tapairportugal #avgeeks #avgeek #toulouse

https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/994252449274884097

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Wed May 09, 2018 5:53 pm

She's a beaut!
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 6:16 pm

gatibosgru wrote:
She is ready to fly soon !!! The first #Airbus #A330neo #tapairportugal performing taxi test this afternoon #CSTUA @tapairportugal #avgeeks #avgeek #toulouse

https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/994252449274884097

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Looks stunning. Love the shades on the cockpit.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 7:14 pm

Still in Flight test, we can see the trailing cone pipe on top of the rudder
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 7:33 pm

Those big engines suit the A330 so well.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 8:34 pm

How many a330neo will be in service at the end of the year?
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 9:22 pm

The A330-900 looks great in TP livery. Hoping the entire A330neo program sells well, offering real competition to the Dreamliner and providing passengers great travel experiences!
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 10:10 pm

Nice looking plane. The more I see of the raccoon/bandit mask, the more I like it.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed May 09, 2018 11:16 pm

She surely looks great. Look forward to seeing her in the air.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 1:32 am

gatibosgru wrote:
She is ready to fly soon !!! The first #Airbus #A330neo #tapairportugal performing taxi test this afternoon #CSTUA @tapairportugal #avgeeks #avgeek #toulouse

https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/994252449274884097

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A fine looking plane!
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 2:51 am

Hopefully this portuguese beauty will soon make its way to GRU :)
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 2:53 am

It looks nose heavy like it's bending , doesn't it ?
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 4:34 am

Vladex wrote:
It looks nose heavy like it's bending , doesn't it ?

No different than any other A332/333.
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 8:26 am

Absolutely stunning
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 9:10 am

Stunning looking! The big engines make the entire aircraft look larger to me.

Any pics of the cabin yet? I'm interested to see how the new Airspace cabin looks in reality, rather than mock-ups.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 10:19 am

audidudi wrote:
Vladex wrote:
It looks nose heavy like it's bending , doesn't it ?

No different than any other A332/333.


They are all nose down. The A332/333/338/339 are all a few degrees nose down. That's why on the A332F the front landing gear has a lump to make it flat for cargo loading and lose the nose down attitude.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 4:10 pm

She looks like a super model and she's going to turn heads wherever she goes. I mean just look at those lines and curves, she's poetry in motion.

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu May 10, 2018 7:57 pm

And TP routing plans are...
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 2:56 pm

george77300 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
Vladex wrote:
It looks nose heavy like it's bending , doesn't it ?

No different than any other A332/333.


They are all nose down. The A332/333/338/339 are all a few degrees nose down. That's why on the A332F the front landing gear has a lump to make it flat for cargo loading and lose the nose down attitude.


The funny part is that whenever I enter an A330, somehow it doesn't feel really as if its floor is nose down, from a passenger perspective, or maybe it is just my perspective,
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 3:15 pm

On A32family, you also have to pitch down during takeoff as a countermeasure to "pitch up" tendency of the plane during TO (Source: http://www.ansv.it/cgi-bin/ita/Relazione%20LZ-BHC.pdf page 26 (18)), maybe the nose down attitude is another countermeasure for this tendency on the Airbus planes?
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 4:17 pm

LewisNEO wrote:
george77300 wrote:
audidudi wrote:
No different than any other A332/333.


They are all nose down. The A332/333/338/339 are all a few degrees nose down. That's why on the A332F the front landing gear has a lump to make it flat for cargo loading and lose the nose down attitude.


The funny part is that whenever I enter an A330, somehow it doesn't feel really as if its floor is nose down, from a passenger perspective, or maybe it is just my perspective,


It won’t do. It’s a few degrees. When you see over the whole length against the ground it noticeable but walking in it you wouldn’t have a clue. Not sure how many degrees from flat but we’re talking 1 or 2 ish. Not a noticeable slope.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 7:17 pm

Can't wait to see view from the windows of the new winglets and windflex!
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 7:19 pm

The first A330neo for launch operator TAP Air Portugal - MSN1819 - completed its 4:32 hours maiden flight today. :bigthumbsup:
And what a beauty she is! :D Looking forward to the EIS hopefully during the summer.

http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... light.html
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 8:09 pm

Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 8:34 pm

Looks like the A330-800neo will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that HA was the only customer to order it and then switched it to Boeing 787-9s
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 9:22 pm

Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.

In your opinion ...
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 10:13 pm

Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.


I actually find them real cool! I was disappointed at first to see they were not as big as the A350s, but I think they'll look awesome in certain angles.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 10:57 pm

Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.


Depends on the angle. From the side it looks off / odd shaped due the raked portion of the wing which is visible and looks like it's part of the winglet. From a rearward angle where you don't see the rake, the winglet is very similar to the A350's.

A lot of people miss the fact that the rake and winglet just play tricks on the eyes from certain angles.

danteaviation wrote:
Looks like the A330-800neo will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that HA was the only customer to order it and then switched it to Boeing 787-9s


Unlikely. It's in the middle of certification and will still sell as a freighter and tanker. Most A332s are not still a few years out from their replacement cycle too.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 11:19 pm

Slug71 wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.


Depends on the angle. From the side it looks off / odd shaped due the raked portion of the wing which is visible and looks like it's part of the winglet. From a rearward angle where you don't see the rake, the winglet is very similar to the A350's.

A lot of people miss the fact that the rake and winglet just play tricks on the eyes from certain angles.

danteaviation wrote:
Looks like the A330-800neo will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that HA was the only customer to order it and then switched it to Boeing 787-9s


Unlikely. It's in the middle of certification and will still sell as a freighter and tanker. Most A332s are not still a few years out from their replacement cycle too.


I don’t believe there will be a tanker variant simply because I think everyone who was buying has already bought the existing model. Tankers have a service life of 40 or more years. They won’t need replaced during the product life of the NEO.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 11:21 pm

Peterwk146 wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.

In your opinion ...


Indeed, IMHO.

danteaviation wrote:
Looks like the A330-800neo will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that HA was the only customer to order it and then switched it to Boeing 787-9s


Looks like according to what? It's been public after the HA cancelation that the A338 program keeps moving for certification as expected. I assume you were under a bridge at that time? Or have any exclusive news that no one else does?
 
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Tue May 15, 2018 11:24 pm

Congrats to both TAP and Airbus on a beautiful aircraft. I look forward to flying on the A330 NEO in the future
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Fri May 18, 2018 10:44 pm

george77300 wrote:
LewisNEO wrote:
george77300 wrote:

They are all nose down. The A332/333/338/339 are all a few degrees nose down. That's why on the A332F the front landing gear has a lump to make it flat for cargo loading and lose the nose down attitude.


The funny part is that whenever I enter an A330, somehow it doesn't feel really as if its floor is nose down, from a passenger perspective, or maybe it is just my perspective,


It won’t do. It’s a few degrees. When you see over the whole length against the ground it noticeable but walking in it you wouldn’t have a clue. Not sure how many degrees from flat but we’re talking 1 or 2 ish. Not a noticeable slope.


Thnx for clearing that up, I am not the only one then. :-)
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Fri May 18, 2018 10:46 pm

Jayafe wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.

In your opinion ...


Indeed, IMHO.

danteaviation wrote:
Looks like the A330-800neo will most likely be cancelled due to the fact that HA was the only customer to order it and then switched it to Boeing 787-9s


Looks like according to what? It's been public after the HA cancelation that the A338 program keeps moving for certification as expected. I assume you were under a bridge at that time? Or have any exclusive news that no one else does?


I agree, I prefer facts above all this guessing. Personally, imho I do not believe it will be cancelled until Airbus states otherwise.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Sat May 26, 2018 8:18 am

MSN 1915 has been assigned as the first A330-900 for Delta Airlines.

I'll be able to confirm when it enters FAL or rolls out on Monday or Tuesday.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Sat May 26, 2018 10:41 am

gatibosgru wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
Its winglets still look quite horrible in the distance, just aesthetic I know, but still.


I actually find them real cool! I was disappointed at first to see they were not as big as the A350s, but I think they'll look awesome in certain angles.


What is your definition of bigger? The winglets on the A330neo are quite long, but do not reach as high as on the A350.
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