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maximairways
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:32 am

Corpsnerd09 wrote:
OneAA wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
DFW quickly putting those new gates to use with flights to Del Rio and Buffalo!

Del Rio, Buffalo, Sarasota and Wilmington, NC (which will go daily / year round).


DRT = E140 x2
SRQ = CR7 (seasonal)
ILM = CR9 upgraded from Sat only
BUF = 319, Daily


Where was this announced?
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:54 am

One thing I would like to see is Norwegian launch DFW-LGW. AA needs some direct competition as I fear the one stop WW/FI won't cut it.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:22 am

ADrum23 wrote:
One thing I would like to see is Norwegian launch DFW-LGW. AA needs some direct competition as I fear the one stop WW/FI won't cut it.


Norwegian 3x-4x per week to LGW is a no brainer if they have available planes. BCN would be more interesting though.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:24 am

maximairways wrote:
Corpsnerd09 wrote:
OneAA wrote:
Del Rio, Buffalo, Sarasota and Wilmington, NC (which will go daily / year round).


DRT = E140 x2
SRQ = CR7 (seasonal)
ILM = CR9 upgraded from Sat only
BUF = 319, Daily


Where was this announced?


Internal employee communication.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:18 am

maximairways wrote:
Corpsnerd09 wrote:
OneAA wrote:
Del Rio, Buffalo, Sarasota and Wilmington, NC (which will go daily / year round).


DRT = E140 x2
SRQ = CR7 (seasonal)
ILM = CR9 upgraded from Sat only
BUF = 319, Daily


Where was this announced?


https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... Journal%29
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:04 pm

Corpsnerd09 wrote:
OneAA wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
DFW quickly putting those new gates to use with flights to Del Rio and Buffalo!

Del Rio, Buffalo, Sarasota and Wilmington, NC (which will go daily / year round).


DRT = E140 x2
SRQ = CR7 (seasonal)
ILM = CR9 upgraded from Sat only
BUF = 319, Daily



Shocked that AA added Buffalo.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:19 pm

Is it likely AA will have any issue with weight restrictions or need a refueling stop on the KEF to DFW flt (or maybe even DFW-KEF)?? Seems like it was fairly common for MAN-JFK to have to stop and refuel some earlier this year and that is a few hundred miles shorter than KEF-DFW. However it seems like the range a 757-2 can handle is over 4,000 but I am not well versed in this and what variation is what and the setup etc
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:27 pm

itchief wrote:
The cost charged for riding DART will never pay for this light rail line.


And the federal government, the state of Texas, and local governments all transfer significant non-user generated taxpayer funds into roads that go to the airport, too.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:18 pm

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/dfw-a ... -561817118

Code 3 ER calls their new emergency room facility the first actual ER on an airport's property anywhere around the globe.
These stand-alone ERs are pretty shady, but I think having one at DFW will do some good long term.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:35 pm

Just driving past D terminal and saw a WOW 321 parked where Qantas 8 usually sits, did they downgauge this permanently or is this just a one off?
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:20 pm

Lemieux wrote:
Just driving past D terminal and saw a WOW 321 parked where Qantas 8 usually sits, did they downgauge this permanently or is this just a one off?


Not sure, seems like it would be technically impossible to use a 321 without a fuel stop, but I do know that the A330 flight from KEF-DFW on Monday was outright cancelled after the A330 experienced a technical issue on the runway before takeoff. Passengers were taken back to the terminal and rerouted through other hubs. They could be down an A330 for maintenance. They only have 3 A330s.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:24 pm

And in other news, the inaugural American Airlines DFW-Reykjavik flight is this evening, utilizing a 757. So today there will be 3 flights operating from Dallas to Reykjavik. Amazing!
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:10 pm

mfe777 wrote:
Norwegian 3x-4x per week to LGW is a no brainer if they have available planes. BCN would be more interesting though.


With fuel prices rising and in their current financial condition, highly unlikely.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:47 am

It appears the inaugural DFW-KEF on American served as the launch of a nonstop to Bangor tonight due to an unplanned pit stop. Not sure if fuel or what but it’ll be interesting to see if the 757 has the legs for this
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:32 am

dfdubflyer wrote:
It appears the inaugural DFW-KEF on American served as the launch of a nonstop to Bangor tonight due to an unplanned pit stop. Not sure if fuel or what but it’ll be interesting to see if the 757 has the legs for this


Indeed, now delayed over 15 hours to a noon departure tomorrow. Rough start.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:51 am

ldvaviation wrote:
mfe777 wrote:
Norwegian 3x-4x per week to LGW is a no brainer if they have available planes. BCN would be more interesting though.


With fuel prices rising and in their current financial condition, highly unlikely.


If the route was able to pull in higher yields than their other destinations, then it wouldn't be so unlikely. For example, their route to Austin has low fares, dipping down into the $400-500 range roundtrip. Even BA is offering cheap $600-800 RT fares quite often on the AUS-London route. Nobody is making money here. On the other hand, Dallas-London nonstop fares on AA/BA range from $2,000-$4,000 this month, level out at $1400-1500, and dip down to $1,229 at the end of this year for advance purchase. There is money to be made on DFW-London nonstop. Even if they undercut AA/BA by $500, Norwegian would still be getting a healthy fare.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:57 pm

dfdubflyer wrote:
It appears the inaugural DFW-KEF on American served as the launch of a nonstop to Bangor tonight due to an unplanned pit stop. Not sure if fuel or what but it’ll be interesting to see if the 757 has the legs for this


It looks like WOW also diverted to Bangor yesterday.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/WOW192
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:12 pm

mfe777 wrote:
ldvaviation wrote:
mfe777 wrote:
Norwegian 3x-4x per week to LGW is a no brainer if they have available planes. BCN would be more interesting though.


With fuel prices rising and in their current financial condition, highly unlikely.


If the route was able to pull in higher yields than their other destinations, then it wouldn't be so unlikely. For example, their route to Austin has low fares, dipping down into the $400-500 range roundtrip. Even BA is offering cheap $600-800 RT fares quite often on the AUS-London route. Nobody is making money here. On the other hand, Dallas-London nonstop fares on AA/BA range from $2,000-$4,000 this month, level out at $1400-1500, and dip down to $1,229 at the end of this year for advance purchase. There is money to be made on DFW-London nonstop. Even if they undercut AA/BA by $500, Norwegian would still be getting a healthy fare.



Preeeetty sure BA is making money on AUS-LHR. They've upguaged the flight to a 747 this summer. Things are going well there and money is being made.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:31 pm

AAtakeMeAway wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
It appears the inaugural DFW-KEF on American served as the launch of a nonstop to Bangor tonight due to an unplanned pit stop. Not sure if fuel or what but it’ll be interesting to see if the 757 has the legs for this


It looks like WOW also diverted to Bangor yesterday.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/WOW192

Could be because it was A321
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:35 pm

FriscoHeavy wrote:
mfe777 wrote:
ldvaviation wrote:

With fuel prices rising and in their current financial condition, highly unlikely.


If the route was able to pull in higher yields than their other destinations, then it wouldn't be so unlikely. For example, their route to Austin has low fares, dipping down into the $400-500 range roundtrip. Even BA is offering cheap $600-800 RT fares quite often on the AUS-London route. Nobody is making money here. On the other hand, Dallas-London nonstop fares on AA/BA range from $2,000-$4,000 this month, level out at $1400-1500, and dip down to $1,229 at the end of this year for advance purchase. There is money to be made on DFW-London nonstop. Even if they undercut AA/BA by $500, Norwegian would still be getting a healthy fare.



Preeeetty sure BA is making money on AUS-LHR. They've upguaged the flight to a 747 this summer. Things are going well there and money is being made.


This is a virtual certainty, but I'd imagine their yields are absolutely trash down the back with Norwegian tanking that market segment. Up front, though, and down below, BA is doing quite well.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:16 pm

Longhornmaniac wrote:
FriscoHeavy wrote:
mfe777 wrote:

If the route was able to pull in higher yields than their other destinations, then it wouldn't be so unlikely. For example, their route to Austin has low fares, dipping down into the $400-500 range roundtrip. Even BA is offering cheap $600-800 RT fares quite often on the AUS-London route. Nobody is making money here. On the other hand, Dallas-London nonstop fares on AA/BA range from $2,000-$4,000 this month, level out at $1400-1500, and dip down to $1,229 at the end of this year for advance purchase. There is money to be made on DFW-London nonstop. Even if they undercut AA/BA by $500, Norwegian would still be getting a healthy fare.



Preeeetty sure BA is making money on AUS-LHR. They've upguaged the flight to a 747 this summer. Things are going well there and money is being made.


This is a virtual certainty, but I'd imagine their yields are absolutely trash down the back with Norwegian tanking that market segment. Up front, though, and down below, BA is doing quite well.


I wonder just how bad the back of the plane is doing, and how well the front really is. I had friends who took the Norwegian flight out of AUS because it was a little cheaper. I'm looking to go to London around July 4th holiday (out of DFW), and want to fly British Airways for the longhaul portion. It is CHEAPER for me to fly DFW-AUS-LHR on AA then BA, then nonstop BA from DFW-LHR. I wonder how many people are funneling from DFW to AUS to fly BA at a lower cost.

Does anyone know how long the 747 is staying at DFW? I know it is probably going back to 777 for awhile.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:26 pm

Longhornmaniac wrote:
FriscoHeavy wrote:
mfe777 wrote:

If the route was able to pull in higher yields than their other destinations, then it wouldn't be so unlikely. For example, their route to Austin has low fares, dipping down into the $400-500 range roundtrip. Even BA is offering cheap $600-800 RT fares quite often on the AUS-London route. Nobody is making money here. On the other hand, Dallas-London nonstop fares on AA/BA range from $2,000-$4,000 this month, level out at $1400-1500, and dip down to $1,229 at the end of this year for advance purchase. There is money to be made on DFW-London nonstop. Even if they undercut AA/BA by $500, Norwegian would still be getting a healthy fare.


Preeeetty sure BA is making money on AUS-LHR. They've upguaged the flight to a 747 this summer. Things are going well there and money is being made.


This is a virtual certainty, but I'd imagine their yields are absolutely trash down the back with Norwegian tanking that market segment. Up front, though, and down below, BA is doing quite well.


Could be. But with 14 F and 86 J seats... well worth their while to run a 744 :)
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:41 pm

mfe777 wrote:

Does anyone know how long the 747 is staying at DFW? I know it is probably going back to 777 for awhile.


It goes back to a 777 on 10/28. Catch the Queen on BA192 while you can.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Cool article from DMN today on the top routes from DFW and DAL... not new routes but gives us an idea (however imperfect the metric) of the most revenue-producing routes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... xas-top-10
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:03 pm

dfdubflyer wrote:
Cool article from DMN today on the top routes from DFW and DAL... not new routes but gives us an idea (however imperfect the metric) of the most revenue-producing routes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... xas-top-10


I'm very surprised that the Dallas-Sydney route at one daily does more revenue than the DFW-LHR route at 4-5 times daily. That's impressive. Good for QF!
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:52 pm

mfe777 wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
Cool article from DMN today on the top routes from DFW and DAL... not new routes but gives us an idea (however imperfect the metric) of the most revenue-producing routes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... xas-top-10


I'm very surprised that the Dallas-Sydney route at one daily does more revenue than the DFW-LHR route at 4-5 times daily. That's impressive. Good for QF!


Length of the route, route monopoly, alliance partner at both ends, and the capacity of the A380 clearly showing its strength here. Plus, there are so many seats going to LHR from all over the US which probably depress prices just enough to drop the LHR route to where it is.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:02 pm

Great article, thanks for the link. What struck me was in regards to WN DAL-HOU flights:

Noticeably absent from Love Field's top 10 is Houston, where Southwest operates 20 daily flights to Hobby Airport. While OAG didn't have a specific explanation for why the route didn't make the cut, the short distance traveled and comparatively low price -- one-way tickets regularly go for as low as $99 -- likely played a role.


Makes me wonder why Southwest keeps up the number of flights and why they are fighting high-speed rail so much. Seems to me they can better use the limited gate space on other routes.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:15 pm

txjim wrote:
Great article, thanks for the link. What struck me was in regards to WN DAL-HOU flights:

Noticeably absent from Love Field's top 10 is Houston, where Southwest operates 20 daily flights to Hobby Airport. While OAG didn't have a specific explanation for why the route didn't make the cut, the short distance traveled and comparatively low price -- one-way tickets regularly go for as low as $99 -- likely played a role.


Makes me wonder why Southwest keeps up the number of flights and why they are fighting high-speed rail so much. Seems to me they can better use the limited gate space on other routes.


Southwest is not fighting High Speed Rail anymore. They did back in the 80s from DFW area to Houston. Now, not so much.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:18 pm

mfe777 wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
Cool article from DMN today on the top routes from DFW and DAL... not new routes but gives us an idea (however imperfect the metric) of the most revenue-producing routes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... xas-top-10


I'm very surprised that the Dallas-Sydney route at one daily does more revenue than the DFW-LHR route at 4-5 times daily. That's impressive. Good for QF!


Our QF rep visited recently and said they have no plans on replacing their 380's with B789's on the DFW-SYD flights cause they making
a mint , especially since the 380 has F cabin.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:39 pm

osupoke07 wrote:
mfe777 wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
Cool article from DMN today on the top routes from DFW and DAL... not new routes but gives us an idea (however imperfect the metric) of the most revenue-producing routes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... xas-top-10


I'm very surprised that the Dallas-Sydney route at one daily does more revenue than the DFW-LHR route at 4-5 times daily. That's impressive. Good for QF!


Length of the route, route monopoly, alliance partner at both ends, and the capacity of the A380 clearly showing its strength here. Plus, there are so many seats going to LHR from all over the US which probably depress prices just enough to drop the LHR route to where it is.


Length of the route has very little to do with revenue. AA and BA are in a JV, so they aren't competing on DFW-LHR traffic and they are alliance partners as well. LHR is not a cheap destination to fly to, despite flights going there from all over the place.

Something seems off on this. There are far more J seats between DFW and LHR than DFW-SYD every day and several of those flights go out full with very few upgrades clearing.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:03 pm

william wrote:
txjim wrote:
Great article, thanks for the link. What struck me was in regards to WN DAL-HOU flights:

Noticeably absent from Love Field's top 10 is Houston, where Southwest operates 20 daily flights to Hobby Airport. While OAG didn't have a specific explanation for why the route didn't make the cut, the short distance traveled and comparatively low price -- one-way tickets regularly go for as low as $99 -- likely played a role.


Makes me wonder why Southwest keeps up the number of flights and why they are fighting high-speed rail so much. Seems to me they can better use the limited gate space on other routes.


Southwest is not fighting High Speed Rail anymore. They did back in the 80s from DFW area to Houston. Now, not so much.



My first thought as well! I was shocked that DAL-HOU wasn't their #1 as I had always heard that was their mint, and personally when booking for business the fares have been quite high. As a note though, like william said they are not opposing Texas Central's plan to build the HSR.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:30 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
mfe777 wrote:
dfdubflyer wrote:
Cool article from DMN today on the top routes from DFW and DAL... not new routes but gives us an idea (however imperfect the metric) of the most revenue-producing routes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... xas-top-10


I'm very surprised that the Dallas-Sydney route at one daily does more revenue than the DFW-LHR route at 4-5 times daily. That's impressive. Good for QF!


Our QF rep visited recently and said they have no plans on replacing their 380's with B789's on the DFW-SYD flights cause they making
a mint , especially since the 380 has F cabin.

They might not replace the 380 with the 789, but I still expect we will see some QF 789 tails in DFW one day along with the 380.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:43 pm

I haven't seen this posted anywhere here but I see that NK is dropping several DFW routes:

DFW- OAK ends 9/4
DFW- PIT ends 9/5
DFW- SAN ends 9/5
DFW- BOS ends 9/5
DFW- SEA ends 9/4
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:25 pm

mfe777 wrote:
Lemieux wrote:
Just driving past D terminal and saw a WOW 321 parked where Qantas 8 usually sits, did they downgauge this permanently or is this just a one off?


Not sure, seems like it would be technically impossible to use a 321 without a fuel stop, but I do know that the A330 flight from KEF-DFW on Monday was outright cancelled after the A330 experienced a technical issue on the runway before takeoff. Passengers were taken back to the terminal and rerouted through other hubs. They could be down an A330 for maintenance. They only have 3 A330s.



WOW flew the A321 from KEF to LAX for a short period of time during the winter. It may have been on the A321neo. Regardless, LAX is further than DFW and they made it without stopping.
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:51 pm

LH i am sure send pax out dallas not alot but few to like IAH, SFO, LAX, and DEN. We all seen those fairs. I've even seen fairs connecting from AUS to IAH on other airlines etc.

Eva Air sends a bus from IAH - Dallas - IAH.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:54 pm

LH658 wrote:

Eva Air sends a bus from IAH - Dallas - IAH.


They need to send a plane TPE-DFW haha. Or China Airlines.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:43 am

mfe777 wrote:
LH658 wrote:

Eva Air sends a bus from IAH - Dallas - IAH.


They need to send a plane TPE-DFW haha. Or China Airlines.


I wouldn't rule them at for DFW, I could see them starting service in less then 5 years. If us DFW spotters lucky enough they'll announce DFW in the coming months,or early 2019. However that's unlikley and as I said before they'll probably start flying to DFW in a few years.
 
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:51 am

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I took these pictures of the E satellite from Skylink this past weekend. Are they beginning the renovations of the E satellite for American?
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:19 am

william wrote:
txjim wrote:
Great article, thanks for the link. What struck me was in regards to WN DAL-HOU flights:

Noticeably absent from Love Field's top 10 is Houston, where Southwest operates 20 daily flights to Hobby Airport. While OAG didn't have a specific explanation for why the route didn't make the cut, the short distance traveled and comparatively low price -- one-way tickets regularly go for as low as $99 -- likely played a role.


Makes me wonder why Southwest keeps up the number of flights and why they are fighting high-speed rail so much. Seems to me they can better use the limited gate space on other routes.


Southwest is not fighting High Speed Rail anymore. They did back in the 80s from DFW area to Houston. Now, not so much.


That's correct. I spoke with the Texas Central public relations director at the Earth Day event at Fair Park in April and he said that SWA is in support of the high-speed rail project.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:54 pm

txjim wrote:
Great article, thanks for the link. What struck me was in regards to WN DAL-HOU flights:

Noticeably absent from Love Field's top 10 is Houston, where Southwest operates 20 daily flights to Hobby Airport. While OAG didn't have a specific explanation for why the route didn't make the cut, the short distance traveled and comparatively low price -- one-way tickets regularly go for as low as $99 -- likely played a role.


Makes me wonder why Southwest keeps up the number of flights and why they are fighting high-speed rail so much. Seems to me they can better use the limited gate space on other routes.


According to the DOT Domestic Consumer Airfare Report, there was an average of 1746 passengers per day traveling between DAL and HOU (both directions included) in 2016 and there was an average of 1549 passengers per day traveling between DAL and HOU (both directions included) in 2017. WN has enough room to carry an average of at least 5352 passengers a day on its DAL-HOU nonstops (both directions included) on weekdays. The actual O&D on WN's DAL-HOU nonstops is also on average only taking up approximately 33% of the maximum capacity.

I agree that WN can better use the limited gate space at DAL on other routes such as DAL-BUF, DAL-CVG, and DAL-CLE. I also agree that WN doesn't need as many DAL-HOU nonstops as it did in the past since the Wright Amendment has been repealed, since there is more than enough room to accommodate the O&D demand with fewer DAL-HOU nonstops, since WN has retired its 737-500 planes, since WN is operating the bigger 737-800 and 737 MAX 8 planes on some of its DAL-HOU nonstops, since WN is still expanding domestically at HOU, and since passengers can already travel to any WN destination outside of Texas and Arkansas from HOU on WN without connecting at DAL.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:55 pm

jplatts wrote:
txjim wrote:
Great article, thanks for the link. What struck me was in regards to WN DAL-HOU flights:

Noticeably absent from Love Field's top 10 is Houston, where Southwest operates 20 daily flights to Hobby Airport. While OAG didn't have a specific explanation for why the route didn't make the cut, the short distance traveled and comparatively low price -- one-way tickets regularly go for as low as $99 -- likely played a role.


Makes me wonder why Southwest keeps up the number of flights and why they are fighting high-speed rail so much. Seems to me they can better use the limited gate space on other routes.


According to the DOT Domestic Consumer Airfare Report, there was an average of 1746 passengers per day traveling between DAL and HOU (both directions included) in 2016 and there was an average of 1549 passengers per day traveling between DAL and HOU (both directions included) in 2017. WN has enough room to carry an average of at least 5352 passengers a day on its DAL-HOU nonstops (both directions included) on weekdays. The actual O&D on WN's DAL-HOU nonstops is also on average only taking up approximately 33% of the maximum capacity.

I agree that WN can better use the limited gate space at DAL on other routes such as DAL-BUF, DAL-CVG, and DAL-CLE. I also agree that WN doesn't need as many DAL-HOU nonstops as it did in the past since the Wright Amendment has been repealed, since there is more than enough room to accommodate the O&D demand with fewer DAL-HOU nonstops, since WN has retired its 737-500 planes, since WN is operating the bigger 737-800 and 737 MAX 8 planes on some of its DAL-HOU nonstops, since WN is still expanding domestically at HOU, and since passengers can already travel to any WN destination outside of Texas and Arkansas from HOU on WN without connecting at DAL.


I was surprised to not see the DAL-HOU route on the list as well, but the more I think about it, it does make sense.

I used to frequently use the DAL-HOU shuttle on WN, but have taken to driving now for most of my trips between the two cities. (usually 3 r/ts a month) I made it from downtown Houston to downtown Dallas yesterday in 3:20. The last few times I've flow it I've had cancellations, lengthy delays, and twice ended up staying in my rental car and driving back anyway. The flights are just not reliable enough to make them worth the near $500 last minute fare.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:21 pm

Interesting sight I saw earlier. Two Qantas A380s and a parked Emirates 777-300ER. Wonder what's up with the parked birds?Image
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:46 pm

ChuckSchumer wrote:
Interesting sight I saw earlier. Two Qantas A380s and a parked Emirates 777-300ER. Wonder what's up with the parked birds?


The parked bird is the yesterday (7/15) QF8 aircraft. Appears to have been delayed to tonight.
DFW ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 2350 ☨1
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0745 ☨1 SYD

The EK bird is the 222 departure for 7/15 that has been delayed by 2 days to 7/17.

EF isn't showing any useful data on why they were delayed. Both were delayed repeatedly, so I assume MX.
19:SIN HKG NRT DFW IAH HOU CLT LGA JFK SFO SJC EWR SNA EYW MIA BOG LAX ORD DTW OAK PVG BOS DCA IAD ATL LAS BIS CUN PHX SYD CVG PHL MAD ORY CDG SLC SJU BQN MHT YYZ STS DOH BLR KTM MFM MEX MSY BWI BNA
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:19 am

Antarius wrote:
ChuckSchumer wrote:
Interesting sight I saw earlier. Two Qantas A380s and a parked Emirates 777-300ER. Wonder what's up with the parked birds?


The parked bird is the yesterday (7/15) QF8 aircraft. Appears to have been delayed to tonight.
DFW ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 2350 ☨1
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0745 ☨1 SYD

The EK bird is the 222 departure for 7/15 that has been delayed by 2 days to 7/17.

EF isn't showing any useful data on why they were delayed. Both were delayed repeatedly, so I assume MX.
Gotta wonder how severe the mechanical issues are considering the extent of the delays for both aircraft.

No useful information on the Qantas Source or EK Source unfortunately.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:46 am

ChuckSchumer wrote:
Antarius wrote:
ChuckSchumer wrote:
Interesting sight I saw earlier. Two Qantas A380s and a parked Emirates 777-300ER. Wonder what's up with the parked birds?


The parked bird is the yesterday (7/15) QF8 aircraft. Appears to have been delayed to tonight.
DFW ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 2350 ☨1
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 0745 ☨1 SYD

The EK bird is the 222 departure for 7/15 that has been delayed by 2 days to 7/17.

EF isn't showing any useful data on why they were delayed. Both were delayed repeatedly, so I assume MX.
Gotta wonder how severe the mechanical issues are considering the extent of the delays for both aircraft.

No useful information on the Qantas Source or EK Source unfortunately.

Sometimes, from a crew scheduling (mostly rest requirements) or pax reaccommodation point of view, a 24 hour delay makes far more sense than the 6 or 10 hours it may take to resolve a mechanical issue.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:29 pm

DFW gets a little love from the DOT(or pork depending on how you look at it.) The ring taxi system is expanding here at DFW.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/DFW-A ... 50361.html
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:09 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
I read (can't recall where) last year that DFW airport was having issues with the homeless who were riding DART to the Airport and then hanging out around the station and terminal areas. Has this issue been addressed by DFW and DART authorities?


Same things happen at ATL and im sure as for the rest of US
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:11 am

ChuckSchumer wrote:
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I took these pictures of the E satellite from Skylink this past weekend. Are they beginning the renovations of the E satellite for American?



that what i heard. American adding more gates
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:24 am

Midway737 wrote:
that what i heard. American adding more gates


Actually, American Eagle.
They're doubling the number of gates, I believe, and it'll be an ERJ haven.
Kind of like it was back in the last few years of Delta ops, with about a zillion CRJ's parked anywhere you could find a square of concrete!
At least now, there will be jet bridges. That's better than walking outside on those 110 degree days.
 
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Re: DFW 2018 Developments

Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:44 pm

AA737-823 wrote:
Midway737 wrote:
that what i heard. American adding more gates


Actually, American Eagle.
They're doubling the number of gates, I believe, and it'll be an ERJ haven.
Kind of like it was back in the last few years of Delta ops, with about a zillion CRJ's parked anywhere you could find a square of concrete!
At least now, there will be jet bridges. That's better than walking outside on those 110 degree days.


Almost recreating the old American Eagle terminal that used to be just north of A without the busses.
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