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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:14 pm

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YSAPW wrote:
juanchito wrote:
In other news the first A320NEO por Central America arrived yesterday N769AV


Juanchito


Hello. I saw some pictures of it parked in MSLP (plane spotter account on instagram). Beautiful plane. Do you know which routes it will be flying?


Not sure what routes will they fly the NEO. I assume that routes to the US and rotate them with Central America.

Regards.

Update: I’ve been following carefully the routes flown by the brand new Avianca A320 NEO, registered as N769AV on Avianca Central America.
This is the whole sequence, in descending order:

1. AV SAL-SFO
2. AV SAL-IAD
3. AV SAL-JFK
4. AV SAL-GUA
5. AV SAL-LAX

First revenue flight: May 19, 2018.
The plane is based at SAL.

Post edited on June 23, 2018.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:02 pm

Second NEO arrived this week, have not fly any revenue flight.
N775AV

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:02 am

I got an e-mail asking about the meaning of the IATA codes belonging to those airlines that are no longer in service and related to the 1983 historic routes posted above:


QF - Air Florida





SH - Sahsa from Honduras





TX - TAN from Honduras





MM - SAM Colombia





TA - The former TACA from El Salvador





PA - Pan Am





MX - Mexicana





GU - Aviateca





RL - Aeronica





OP - Air Panama





LB - Lloyd Aereo Boliviano





RG - Varig





EU - Ecuatoriana





PL - AeroPeru





EA - Eastern





LR - Lacsa



All these extinct airlines operated in Central America by 1983.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:00 pm

From another Thread.

Beechtobus wrote:
http://ir.spirit.com/news-releases/news-release-details/houston-weve-got-more-go-spirit-airlines-brings-new

Looks like Spirit will be adding Guatemala City out of IAH and will be returning to San Salvador.

Spirit added several international cities out of IAH in early 2015 including San Jose CR, Managua Nicaragua, San Salvador, Toluca MX, Los Cabos MX, Cancun MX San Pedro Sula Honduras. The first 4 were axed after about a year, the latter 3 survived.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:19 pm

Propose GUA flight schedule
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays

IAH 11:15 - GUA 12:58
GUA 14:05 - IAH 18:03
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:39 pm

juanchito wrote:
Propose GUA flight schedule
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays

IAH 11:15 - GUA 12:58
GUA 14:05 - IAH 18:03


Good to see some competition in that route, now we just need someone to fly GUA-ATL. Looks like B6 or AS's expansion in Central America is now more difficult.
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:25 pm

aer wrote:
juanchito wrote:
Propose GUA flight schedule
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays

IAH 11:15 - GUA 12:58
GUA 14:05 - IAH 18:03


Good to see some competition in that route, now we just need someone to fly GUA-ATL. Looks like B6 or AS's expansion in Central America is now more difficult.


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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:02 pm

juanchito wrote:
IAH 11:15 - GUA 12:58
GUA 14:05 - IAH 18:03

Update:

NK IAH-SAL. 3x weekly, A319. Effective: September 06.

NK IAH-GUA. 3x weekly, A319. Effective: September 07.
NK IAH-GUA. 3x to 4x weekly, A319. Effective: November 08.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:24 am

News on Chicago - Liberia sector.


1. The seasonal UA ORD-LIR with 738 will resume their services in Guanacaste on a daily basis from January 07th.

2. The US travel agency Apple Vacations will operate seasonal flights from January 2019 till April 2019 on a weekly basis. It will link Chicago Rockford to Liberia.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:29 pm

Looks like Copa is going to announce its Salta Plans tomorrow.

Copa Airlines anunciará novedades sobre operaciones aéreas con Salta
El encuentro con los medios de prensa será mañana a las 10 en la Secretaría de Turismo de la Provincia. Estarán presentes el ministro Lavallen junto a directivos de la empresa aérea panameña.

El ministro de Cultura, Turismo y Deportes de la Provincia, Juan Manuel Lavallen, se reunirá mañana jueves con el gerente Regional de Mercosur de Copa Airlines, Gustavo Esusy, para dialogar acerca de los avances de las gestiones para iniciar las operaciones con Salta.

http://www.lahoradesalta.com.ar/2018/07/04/copa-airlines-anunciara-novedades-sobre-operaciones-aereas-con-salta/#.WzzYC9IzqUl
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:55 pm

Is official. Copa start Salta on December 13, 2018. Via Twitter:

Gustavo Esusy @gesusy
Salta tan linda que enamora. Hoy en @SaltaTurismo junto a @JuanMLavallen @StaniVillanueva anunciando vuelos directos @CopaAirlines de #salta a #panama y conexiones vía el #huboftheamericas a partir del 13 de Diciembre 2018


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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:08 pm

Kilgen wrote:
Is official. Copa start Salta on December 13, 2018. Via Twitter:

Gustavo Esusy @gesusy
Salta tan linda que enamora. Hoy en @SaltaTurismo junto a @JuanMLavallen @StaniVillanueva anunciando vuelos directos @CopaAirlines de #salta a #panama y conexiones vía el #huboftheamericas a partir del 13 de Diciembre 2018


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https://twitter.com/gesusy/status/1014866489004916736

Great news for SLA and northern Argentina.
Wonder TUC's reaction to CM to SLA.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:16 pm

Proposed schedule on Copa Airlines [Panama City - Salta]

CM 122....PTY 16.10...SLA 23.51.....We, Sa...738
CM 123....SLA 02.41...PTY 06.26....Th, Su...738
Effective: December 12th.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:56 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
Proposed schedule on Copa Airlines [Panama City - Salta]

CM 122....PTY 16.10...SLA 23.51.....We, Sa...738
CM 123....SLA 02.41...PTY 06.26....Th, Su...738
Effective: December 12th.

What is interesting about that schedule is that if CM chooses to add frequencies and operate PTY-SLA-TUC-PTY, that TUC stop could be easily squeezed in.
Albeit TUC-PTY is longer than SLA-PTY, TUC altitude might prove good for take-off to PTY.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Can't find another source but another A320 NEO arrived yesterday, looks like it will be operated out of SJO by LACSA.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:33 pm

Image

Here it is, arriving yesterday to SJO from Toulouse with a stop on Goose Bay Canada, N776AV, the apparent only A320NEO that will sport the Costa Rican flag therefore based in SJO and the only one to be mainly operated by Avianca Costa Rica (LACSA), according to unconfirmed sources, this guy should be operating the SJO-SAL-YYZ flight, yet to be confirmed by the Airline. Photo by Carlos Rojas


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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:58 pm

Salta had traditionally operated as an isolated airport supplying no more than flights to Buenos Aires area.
The Argentine Govenment was too protectionist against the incursion of airlines from abroad in their seconday airports.
Things started to change in 2016 due to the opening of LATAM [LP LIM-SLA] and now it's the turn of CM PTY-SLA 2x weekly.
Perhaps Argentina may experience in the future the spread of Copa Airlines there: EZE, MDZ, COR, ROS and SLA now. For example, it's impressive how Brazil is currently connected to Panama City through CM.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:06 am

LRC315 wrote:
arriving yesterday to SJO from Toulouse with a stop on Goose Bay Canada, N776AV, the apparent only A320NEO that will sport the Costa Rican flag


juanchito wrote:
Second NEO arrived this week, have not fly any revenue flight.
N775AV


Avianca mainline Colombia
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N764AV......…December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N765AV...…...December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N766AV...……...March 21, 2018
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N776AV...……….July 04, 2018


Avianca Central America
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N769AV......…….April 24, 2018
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N775AV...……….June 20, 2018

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:25 am

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Salta had traditionally operated as an isolated airport supplying no more than flights to Buenos Aires area.

Let me rephrase it better:
SLA-BUE is the primary route served out of Salta.
There are other local services from SLA.
Neither CM nor LATAM/LP are the only main-line airlines from abroad operating there.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:55 am

SJOtoLIR wrote:
LRC315 wrote:
arriving yesterday to SJO from Toulouse with a stop on Goose Bay Canada, N776AV, the apparent only A320NEO that will sport the Costa Rican flag


juanchito wrote:
Second NEO arrived this week, have not fly any revenue flight.
N775AV


Avianca mainline Colombia
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N764AV......…December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N765AV...…...December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N766AV...……...March 21, 2018
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N776AV...……….July 04, 2018


Avianca Central America
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N769AV......…….April 24, 2018
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N775AV...……….June 20, 2018

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:37 pm

Is incredible the amount of CM bashing in Panama Social Media.
Why people can't understand that Panama doesn't have the critical mass to keep up CM routes and frequencies and that CM + PTY airport business isn't the Panamanian market?
So, yes, CM airfares to/from PTY happen to be outrageously expensive at times while fares connecting at PTY are ridiculously affordable, but that its supply and demand,
People accuse CM of keeping LATAM, B6 and WN away from PTY. Do they detect a critical mass to support their operations in Panama?
IMHO, if those airlines see there is a market they can grab (from CM) and would want to fly to Panama why don't they check ONX or RIH?
With all bilateral Panama has signed, LATAM could even build-up a focus operation at ONX. If fares out of ONX are at least USD50 cheaper than PTY's, travellers might chose flying ONX,
BTW, ONX terminal and even RIH are far better than BLB.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:56 pm

Well, there are several reasons for the CM bashing:
1. People only consider the economic cost of the ticket, i.e. price, but they don't consider the economic cost of time. A direct CM flight from PTY is going to be more expensive than a connecting flight somewhere else. But if you add the amount of time saved, the potential aggravation in the connecting airport (if you need to connect in the US or MEX as you need to go through customs and imigration), the different frequencies options, etc. It is cheaper to fly via CM than taking some other connecting flight (if we add all the costs: time, convenience, etc). But for most of the people, they don't take this last portions into consideration, as the ticket price is the only one considered. So when the CM ticket is high, people will complain (although sometimes I feel that they are abuse the prices a little bit, for example if you fly from X to SJO via PTY via CM is cheaper than if you fly from X to PTY, even after you remove the taxes to compare prices and have to take one less flight).
2. Part of the bashing is political. As the owner is seen as pro Varela and anti Martinelli (even though I think he donated to all 3 candidates in the last election), people will complain, just because of it.
3. Part of the bashing is from competitors. If you check Twitter, @UrsulaKiener likes to bash CM and PTY. If not mistaken, she used to work or still works at 7P (Air Panama). Now she is running as an "independent" to the National Assembly. She complains a lot about the airport infrastructures and airlines in Panama, but never once she has complained about 7P. And when Viva Air Colombia left BLB using the excuse of an increase of taxes (which they never paid, occurred 2 years before they left but complained about them, and most likely left BLB because Wingo was destroying them, plus Viva Air needed the planes for the new Viva Air Peru), she used that to also hammer CM and PTY.
4. Taxes and fees are also part of the problem. Lets check. At PTY there is the $40 exit tax, $2.50 security fee. A $10 tourism tax. And if you buy the ticket in Panama, you have to pay sales tax (you can give thanks or curse the last fiscal reform for that). Because PTY doesn't change transit passengers (it could be nice if they charged a token amount and that funds used for airport maintenance, but they won't) so that they could lower the taxes that O&D passengers pay. Last year 15.6 million passengers flew through PTY. The $52.50 tax was only charged to 2.3 million passengers collecting roughly 120 million (only departure passengers). If they charged $0.50 per transit passenger (roughly 11 million passengers), it could be roughly more than $5.5 million. That could offset the $52.50 to $49.78 per O&D Ticket. If $1 per transit passenger was used, then the offset would be from $52.50 to $47.39. I don't think transit passengers will complain for a small fee increase if and only if, that money is used to improve the existing infrastructure in PTY as long as the increase is small. And if you take away that $10 tourism tax (which hits the O&D passengers), then the taxes are lower (as it doesn't make sense to tax the consumers that you want to attract i.e. tourists or locals).
5. Prices are high due to low demand. Panama is one of the least populated countries in Central America and to make things difficult, the Panamanian diaspora is small, thus causing not that much O&D demand. If you only count the O&D passengers at PTY, the total passengers are roughly 4.2 million (2017). So, let say that we remove CM and P5 from the picture. How many destinations in the Americas would be covered? YYZ, EWR, ATL, FLL, MIA, MEX, SAL, SJO, BOG, CCS and VLN. How many less destinations in Europe would be there or higher prices to Europe? As part of the demand to MAD, AMS, CDG, FRA are transit passengers that CM redistributes?
6. Until the T2 opens, where can you put new operators if they want to travel to PTY? They have 2 options, either fly at undesirable hours or be limited in opportunities. PTY has been operating over 100% capacity since 2013 - 2014.
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:20 pm

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Well, there are several reasons for the CM bashing:
...
4. Taxes and fees are also part of the problem. Lets check. At PTY there is the $40 exit tax, $2.50 security fee. A $10 tourism tax. And if you buy the ticket in Panama, you have to pay sales tax (you can give thanks or curse the last fiscal reform for that). Because PTY doesn't change transit passengers (it could be nice if they charged a token amount and that funds used for airport maintenance, but they won't) so that they could lower the taxes that O&D passengers pay. Last year 15.6 million passengers flew through PTY. The $52.50 tax was only charged to 2.3 million passengers collecting roughly 120 million (only departure passengers). If they charged $0.50 per transit passenger (roughly 11 million passengers), it could be roughly more than $5.5 million. That could offset the $52.50 to $49.78 per O&D Ticket. If $1 per transit passenger was used, then the offset would be from $52.50 to $47.39. I don't think transit passengers will complain for a small fee increase if and only if, that money is used to improve the existing infrastructure in PTY as long as the increase is small. And if you take away that $10 tourism tax (which hits the O&D passengers), then the taxes are lower (as it doesn't make sense to tax the consumers that you want to attract i.e. tourists or locals).
...
Well, add to that every-time a Panamanian or foreign resident senior citizen or pensionado buys an air ticket (applies almost all airfares), it comes with a hefty discount.
In a way and in some specific routes, CM might slightly increase the airfare to cover those senior discounts.
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:36 pm

People always complain, no matter what. They have no idea what it costs to run an airport or an airline. CM is an integral part of the PTY economy. If CM ever left, those same people would be complaining about the lack of service options at PTY and yes, they would still be complaining about the (probably even higher) airfares.

I remember when the folks in CLE and MEM used to complain about their hub carrier being too expensive.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:37 pm

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N776AV is for Avianca Costa Rica and not Colombia.

Agreed.
Based on local media, the AV776AV would be officially introduced on July 19th and ready for the first revenue flight.
However, the source airfleets.net shows that plane enrolled on Avianca Central America.
I expect that the plane would be featuring the Costa Rican flag.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:01 pm

Copa Airline's first B737 Max 9 in the assembly line:
WoodysAeroimag wrote:
7096 737-9 Copa Airlines
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Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:02 pm

AV is resuming its daily service SAL-CLO-SAL interrupted for unknown reasons between April and June.
 
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:22 am

Update.

Airbus 320 NEO. N775AV
First revenue flight: July 21, 2018. AV SAL-IAD.
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:57 pm

SJOtoLIR wrote:
Update.

Airbus 320 NEO. N775AV
First revenue flight: July 21, 2018. AV SAL-IAD.


yes it did. Yesterday it came to Guatemala and then flights to SFO was schedule.

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Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:19 pm

https://www.teletica.com/200283_huelga- ... santamaria

This morning there has been a strike by air traffic controllers in Costa Rica, which delayed flights by Condor, United, American and Copa. They protested against article 164 of the Immigration Act of 2009 (aka Ley 8764), which says that air traffic controllers have to make sure that all immigration formalities for a flight are cleared, that nobody who has a travel impediment is aboard and allowed to depart, or else they would be fined 10,000 Dollars and potentially lose their jobs (not to mention, in the worst case, even criminal charges). I wanna bring up this subject that has been subject to debates for a while: In Costa Rica, even though exit passport controls by immigration police have been reintroduced last year, air traffic controllers still have to make sure the aircraft is fully cleared to depart from an immigration point of view, or else they are fully liable. I have never heard of that in Germany, where Federal Police is in charge of passport control, nor in the Netherlands where Royal Marshals are in charge of that, and much less in the United States under CBP.

Here's the official link to the PDF of the Immigration Act:

http://www.migracion.go.cr/institucion/ ... njeria.pdf

I find it unreal that ATCs still have to put up with that, and while I do not support a work stoppage like they did just this morning (as a matter of fact, I do not support strikes at all), but I can understand their sentiment. They should not be forced to do their job and something for which they do not have any training and which is completely out of their scope. Their job is to keep us safe and monitor our airspace, not to enforce immigration law (which is DGME's job through their immigration police). I thought it was all resolved with the new passport controls, but I guess I was wrong.

So I can understand if ATCs want that article repealed, or at least changed so that they are not the ones responsible for it. And before we have any delays, we should do it now. But I fear neither the government (by way of the President, DGME and MOPT) nor parliament will act on it because they are too preoccupied with the current tax reform, so everything else doesn't matter to them.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:31 am

So jetBlue recently announced they are bringing their "Mint" cabin product to Costa Rica, specifically on the JFK-LIR route, this translates to an upgrade from their A320 to A321 on this seasonal flight. This is going to be once a week service scheduled for Saturdays starting December 15, 2018:

JFK – LIR Flight #1691 LIR – JFK Flight #1692
10:25 a.m. – 2:49 p.m. 4:15 p.m. – 10:14 p.m.

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Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:54 pm

Noticed later on the year Aeromexico will use a 737-800 instead of the usual 737-700 for some of the MEX-PTY flights. Any reason why? I suppose that with the MAXs being delivered to AM they will be able to upgrade from 737s to 738s on some flights.
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Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:40 pm

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Noticed later on the year Aeromexico will use a 737-800 instead of the usual 737-700 for some of the MEX-PTY flights. Any reason why? I suppose that with the MAXs being delivered to AM they will be able to upgrade from 737s to 738s on some flights.



One of the 4 daily flights from MEX-GUA is also being upgauged to a 737-800.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:05 am

Avianca will launch a second daily flight between GUA and LAX from October 29 this year, same day ORD flight starts.

AV524 GUA 06:00 - LAX 09:20
AV525 LAX 10:35 - GUA 17:15

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Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:12 am

Aeroméxico will start flights between Mexico City and Belize City using E190. Flight starts in November 2 weekly


AM 2188: MEX (0830) - BZE (1030) .....67 E90
AM 2189: BZE (1200) - MEX (1415) .....67 E90


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From 17NOV18, AeroMexico adds weekend-only service on Cancun – Medellin and Mexico City – Belize City route
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:01 pm

Update

Avianca Central America
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N779AV...……….July 31, 2018

SJOtoLIR wrote:
LRC315 wrote:

Avianca mainline Colombia
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N764AV......…December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N765AV...…...December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N766AV...……...March 21, 2018

Avianca Central America Costa Rica
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N776AV...……….July 04, 2018

Avianca Central America
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N769AV......…….April 24, 2018
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N775AV...……….June 20, 2018

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:44 pm

juanchito wrote:
Update

Avianca Central America
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N779AV...……….July 31, 2018

SJOtoLIR wrote:
LRC315 wrote:

Avianca mainline Colombia
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N764AV......…December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N765AV...…...December 11, 2017
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N766AV...……...March 21, 2018

Avianca Central America Costa Rica
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N776AV...……….July 04, 2018

Avianca Central America
……….Type….………..Registration……….Delivery date
Airbus 320-251 NEO.......N769AV......…….April 24, 2018
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N775AV...……….June 20, 2018

Regards.


Looks like it's going to El Salvador. Which I assume we mean by Avianca Central America. No ships planned on carrying the Guatemalan flag?
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:50 am

Yes it is going to SAL and there are no current plans for any airplane with Guatemalan Flag.
Even that new flight from GUA - LAX will be operated by Taca on behaf of Aviateca.

Redwood839 wrote:
juanchito wrote:
Update

Avianca Central America
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N779AV...……….July 31, 2018

SJOtoLIR wrote:


Looks like it's going to El Salvador. Which I assume we mean by Avianca Central America. No ships planned on carrying the Guatemalan flag?
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:20 pm

juanchito wrote:
Yes it is going to SAL and there are no current plans for any airplane with Guatemalan Flag.
Even that new flight from GUA - LAX will be operated by Taca on behaf of Aviateca.

Redwood839 wrote:
juanchito wrote:
Update

Avianca Central America
Airbus 320-251 NEO...…N779AV...……….July 31, 2018



Looks like it's going to El Salvador. Which I assume we mean by Avianca Central America. No ships planned on carrying the Guatemalan flag?


Do they change crews at GUA? I was onboard it the other day but I slept through the techstop it makes while going to SJO. I could have sworn in my sleep they said it was operated by LACSA when we were going again.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:37 pm

Redwood839 wrote:

Do they change crews at GUA? I was onboard it the other day but I slept through the techstop it makes while going to SJO. I could have sworn in my sleep they said it was operated by LACSA when we were going again.


Probably yes, most (to not say all) Avianca flights in to and out off SJO are operated by LACSA.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:46 am

I was not able to find an entry on the new Domestic Terminal inaugurated this past May in SJO (if there was please feel free to let me know or to delete this one). Located just a bit to the west of the main terminal will now serve as base for: SANSA, Aerobell, Carmonair (Costa Rica Green Airways) etc. This allowed the airport to remove the old SANSA terminal and proceed with the now ongoing expansion that once done will add two more gates and once COOPESA moves to the southwest of the airport to proceed with the rest of what's planned.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:05 am

Level of progress of PTY-T2.

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:44 am

New JFK flights from Avianca starting October 29 this year operating daily with Airbus aircraft.

Schedules
Taca 502 GUA 17:45 - JFK 00:30
Taca 503 JFK 02:15 - GUA 05:15

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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:00 am

I wonder if AV would ever consider starting MGA-JFK. I think Managua-New York has enough demand for maybe 3x-4x flights a week. I could be wrong but I could see someone jumping into MGA-NYC at some point in the future.
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:13 am

New AV connection from SAL:

Starting November 1, 2018
Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday

AV 371 SAL-CTG
AV 372 CTG-SAL

Flights will be departing in the mornings from SAL and arriving from CTG same day at night.

Routes were approved by Colombia's Aerocivil back in January (2018)
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:08 am

juanchito wrote:
New JFK flights from Avianca starting October 29 this year operating daily with Airbus aircraft.

Schedules
Taca 502 GUA 17:45 - JFK 00:30
Taca 503 JFK 02:15 - GUA 05:15

Juanchito


AV is really building up GUA this year, glad to see it happen. Any idea if this will this be a tag on to SAL or to SJO?
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:12 am

Look like Avianca is builing a Focus City in GUA.
Planning to based airplanes in La Aurora next year.
Rumor is that flight to FRS will be with Airbus next year.

aer wrote:
juanchito wrote:
New JFK flights from Avianca starting October 29 this year operating daily with Airbus aircraft.

Schedules
Taca 502 GUA 17:45 - JFK 00:30
Taca 503 JFK 02:15 - GUA 05:15

Juanchito


AV is really building up GUA this year, glad to see it happen. Any idea if this will this be a tag on to SAL or to SJO?
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:01 pm

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I wonder if AV would ever consider starting MGA-JFK. I think Managua-New York has enough demand for maybe 3x-4x flights a week. I could be wrong but I could see someone jumping into MGA-NYC at some point in the future.
If UA has a plane overnight @ MGA, red-eyes MGA-EWR and EWR-MGA, a couple of days per week may work.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:37 pm

These are the current published schedules for AV at GUA. Information was taken from Avianca's website. Departure dates were FEB 1st and the return dates were FEB 8th. The only flight with a different departure date was MCO, which was FEB 2nd.

GUA-MIA: 21:45 -01:25
MIA-GUA: 03:55 - 05:40

GUA-SAL: 06:25 - 07:15
GUA-SAL: 12:55 - 13:45
GUA- SAL: 17:35 -18:25

SAL - GUA: 08:25 - 09:15
SAL - GUA: 14:35- 15:25
SAL- GUA: 20:10 - 20:55

GUA - SJO: 08:05 - 09:45
GUA - SJO: 20:35 - 22:15
SJO - GUA: 06:30 - 08:55
SJO - GUA: 17:03 - 18:35

GUA - MGA: 09:05 - 10:49
MGA - GUA: 17:20 - 18:57

GUA - TGU: 09:40 - 11:00
TGU - GUA: 16:20 - 17:31

GUA - SAP: 05:31 - 06:45
SAP - GUA: 19:53 - 21:00

GUA - FRS: 06:00 - 07:06
GUA - FRS: 19:31 - 20:39

FRS - GUA: 07:37 - 08:35
FRS - GUA: 21:09 - 22:13

GUA - ORD: 17:35 - 22:20
ORD- GUA: 00:30 - 05:00

GUA - JFK: 17:45
JFK - GUA: 01:15 - 05:15

GUA - LAX: 06:00 - 09:20
GUA - LAX: 19:20 - 22:40
LAX - GUA: 00:45 - 07:25
LAX - GUA: 10:35 - 17:15

GUA - BOG: 16:45 - 21:00
BOG - GUA: 13:40 - 16:00

GUA - MCO: 09:18 - 13:13 **
MCO - GUA: 17:45 - 19:50 **

** operates 3 times a week.


From this information, I would call it more of a focus city than a hub. There are some connections available but the flights in general are not timed for connections.

There are a few flights that depart at around the same time. These are SAL, ORD, JFK, and BOG. My guess is there are still a couple of flights to be announced given that we don't know where the plane that goes to JFK is coming from.
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Re: Central American aviation thread - 2018

Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:19 pm

Spirit is not operating anymore the red-eye flight into NK SJO-FLL 14x weekly.
NK keeps their current weekly frequencies.

NK 335.....FLL 19.00......19.57 SJO
NK 338.....SJO 06:00.....10:57 FLL
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