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Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:51 pm

Flight seems to be for sale at icelandair.us as FI863 KEF-SFO and FI862 SFO-KEF.
Press release likely to follow soon, as well as schedule details!
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:55 pm

IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:57 pm

So when are they going to announce LAX?
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Would be a resumption. They previously served SFO but dropped it.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:59 pm

janders wrote:
Would be a resumption. They previously served SFO but dropped it.


Hard to operate the route with only one 763 back when they used to operate there before it ended in 2006
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:00 pm

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Look for good connecting opportunities to/from AS flights now that the partnership is back.


And VX.... soon.
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:01 pm

Look for good connecting opportunities to/from AS flights now that the partnership is back.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:02 pm

.... AGAIN ??

It failed last time .. and now don't they have competition from Wow on this route ?
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:05 pm

stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:13 pm

icelandair75w wrote:
Flight seems to be for sale at icelandair.us as FI863 KEF-SFO and FI862 SFO-KEF.
Press release likely to follow soon, as well as schedule details!


FI has announced its next newest destination - SFO. FI will operate its 767s four times per week. Start from 01JUN through October.
The flight schedule is as follows:

FI863 KEF1700 SFO1855
FI862 SFO1515 KEF0640
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:19 pm

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.... AGAIN ??

It failed last time .. and now don't they have competition from Wow on this route ?


a) WOW is dropping their route (the 333 is too large, 763 perfect IMO)

b) back in 2006 they had 8 destinations in Europe IIRC. Now they have over 30, so much more options to connect to.

And also, the first time around they only had one 767 which was horrible for IRROPS, further compounded by the fact said 767 was what they call a "hangar queen".

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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:21 pm

RJNUT wrote:
stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays


If it arrives on time, that's an hour to unload a 767 at remote parking, get everyone onto shuttle buses, into the terminal, only to turn around for a number of flights to get back on ANOTHER shuttle bus and be sent back out to a remote stand to get on a plane.

That's less than an hour to connect to Frankfurt, Munich, an hour to catch a flight to London Heathrow, Berlin, Amsterdam, Brussels, and an hour plus a few minutes to spare to Copenhagen, London Gatwick, and so on and so forth.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:25 pm

Icelanair now has SFO on its rountemap at icelandair.com.
WOW is really dropping SFO? I still see it on their web site and you can book tickets on them through the summer...
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:26 pm

How many 767s do they have?
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:27 pm

stlgph wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays


If it arrives on time, that's an hour to unload a 767 at remote parking, get everyone onto shuttle buses, into the terminal, only to turn around for a number of flights to get back on ANOTHER shuttle bus and be sent back out to a remote stand to get on a plane.

That's less than an hour to connect to Frankfurt, Munich, an hour to catch a flight to London Heathrow, Berlin, Amsterdam, Brussels, and an hour plus a few minutes to spare to Copenhagen, London Gatwick, and so on and so forth.


They have rebuild the structure. There are flights to these destinations (CPH, ARN, OSL etc) after 08:00.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:32 pm

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a) WOW is dropping their route (the 333 is too large, 763 perfect IMO)


First I've heard of that... What's the source?
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:33 pm

stlgph wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays


If it arrives on time, that's an hour to unload a 767 at remote parking, get everyone onto shuttle buses, into the terminal, only to turn around for a number of flights to get back on ANOTHER shuttle bus and be sent back out to a remote stand to get on a plane.

That's less than an hour to connect to Frankfurt, Munich, an hour to catch a flight to London Heathrow, Berlin, Amsterdam, Brussels, and an hour plus a few minutes to spare to Copenhagen, London Gatwick, and so on and so forth.


First off, the 767s and 330s are usually parked at gates, and this flight will definitely do that as the heavy gates WOW uses for their A330s will be open after they left for Europe. Also, those 40-75 minute connections are FI's business model in a nutshell, and their miss connection rate is below 1%. ZRH also uses a 767 in the summer with similar connection times, and that's without problems for the most part. The 2 aisles mean the 767 is actually faster than the 757 most of the time, especially the 753.

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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:34 pm

drerx7 wrote:
How many 767s do they have?


4 (TF-ISN, -ISO, -ISP and -ISW). All ex-NZ birds.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:36 pm

My experience with eastbound TATL flights is typically an early arrival , usually on account of some generous tailwinds.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:37 pm

Does Icelandair still have an active 787 order or not ?
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:38 pm

RJNUT wrote:
My experience with eastbound TATL flights is typically an early arrival , usually on account of some generous tailwinds.


Yes, same here. I expect the schedule is fairly well padded, especially in the strong winter currents where flights often gain an hour plus.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:42 pm

RJNUT wrote:
My experience with eastbound TATL flights is typically an early arrival , usually on account of some generous tailwinds.

Correct. Not what I would want to count on, but I am pretty sure FI knows the game.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:45 pm

Slightly unrelated, but is it known when FI will get their 787? I wonder what routes they will use it on?
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:47 pm

Amazing for FI, what is this 17-18 US destinations? Well at least we here in Houston have been spared an invasion from those crazy Norsemen....so far...
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:51 pm

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Slightly unrelated, but is it known when FI will get their 787? I wonder what routes they will use it on?


This has been covered many times, but the 787 isn't going to FI. They cancelled and sold them on in 2011, but for some reason they're still listed to FI on wikipedia or somewhere leading to this misunderstanding. FI only has 17 MAXs on order.
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:58 pm

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Amazing for FI, what is this 17-18 US destinations? Well at least we here in Houston have been spared an invasion from those crazy Norsemen....so far...


Off the top of my head:

N-American dest. (incl. Canada):
Anchorage
Boston
Baltimore
Chicago
Cleveland
Dallas
Denver
Edmonton
Halifax
Kansas City
Minneapolis
Montreal
Newark
New York JFK
Orlando
Philadelphia
Portland
San Francisco
Seattle
Tampa
Toronto
Vancouver
Washington DC
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:08 pm

Slightly unrelated but how is WOW doing in Tel Aviv?
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:18 pm

Excited to see them here, but with the closest widebody remote spots to the A concourse being near the G-terminal(which sell out fast meaning many planes tow to North Cargo or the Superbay areal), all these "up-stream" tows against all the traffic headed to the 01s are really clogging up the airport. I wish the airport would wait until the new South Field remote spots open, along with the hotel, in a few years.

RJNUT wrote:
stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays

Sometimes the tow back to the A terminal takes over an hour, and the last gating priority on ATC delay days are tows vs live inbounds, so don't count on that.
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:26 pm

IceAir778 wrote:
icelandair75w wrote:
Flight seems to be for sale at icelandair.us as FI863 KEF-SFO and FI862 SFO-KEF.
Press release likely to follow soon, as well as schedule details!


FI has announced its next newest destination - SFO. FI will operate its 767s four times per week. Start from 01JUN through October.
The flight schedule is as follows:

FI863 KEF1700 SFO1855
FI862 SFO1515 KEF0640



Does this mean that the plane will be on the ground in SFO for over 20hrs? Doesn’t sound like great asset utilisation.
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Chasensfo wrote:
Excited to see them here, but with the closest widebody remote spots to the A concourse being near the G-terminal(which sell out fast meaning many planes tow to North Cargo or the Superbay areal), all these "up-stream" tows against all the traffic headed to the 01s are really clogging up the airport. I wish the airport would wait until the new South Field remote spots open, along with the hotel, in a few years.

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stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays

Sometimes the tow back to the A terminal takes over an hour, and the last gating priority on ATC delay days are tows vs live inbounds, so don't count on that.


If you’re expecting a long tow back to the gate, leave earlier!

WOW averages 8 hours gate to gate on the same route, with economy (slightly slow) cruise speed. There’s a significant buffer there in the block time.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:40 pm

MCI, BWI, and now SFO. Is there more to come?

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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:54 pm

MontyP wrote:
IceAir778 wrote:
icelandair75w wrote:
Flight seems to be for sale at icelandair.us as FI863 KEF-SFO and FI862 SFO-KEF.
Press release likely to follow soon, as well as schedule details!


FI has announced its next newest destination - SFO. FI will operate its 767s four times per week. Start from 01JUN through October.
The flight schedule is as follows:

FI863 KEF1700 SFO1855
FI862 SFO1515 KEF0640



Does this mean that the plane will be on the ground in SFO for over 20hrs? Doesn’t sound like great asset utilisation.


This question is asked on almost every thread about FI! Reason is: otherwise they miss the European connecting bank, rendering the route almost useless. How it's good asset utilisation: a) they do maintenance checks on the sitting aircraft that'd otherwise be done in KEF and b) all their 757s and 767s are completely owned by FI and have low depreciation value so they can afford to park them in order to sustain the route.

Other routes using the same model include ANC, DEN, DFW, MCI, MCO, PDX, SEA and YVR.

Regards!
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:57 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
MontyP wrote:
IceAir778 wrote:

FI has announced its next newest destination - SFO. FI will operate its 767s four times per week. Start from 01JUN through October.
The flight schedule is as follows:

FI863 KEF1700 SFO1855
FI862 SFO1515 KEF0640



Does this mean that the plane will be on the ground in SFO for over 20hrs? Doesn’t sound like great asset utilisation.


This question is asked on almost every thread about FI! Reason is: otherwise they miss the European connecting bank, rendering the route almost useless. How it's good asset utilisation: a) they do maintenance checks on the sitting aircraft that'd otherwise be done in KEF and b) all their 757s and 767s are completely owned by FI and have low depreciation value so they can afford to park them in order to sustain the route.

Other routes using the same model include ANC, DEN, DFW, MCI, MCO, PDX, SEA and YVR.

Regards!
Sveinn :)


This was the problem with FI's prior SFO service, the late evening departure from SFO mis-connected most of the network & required a forced overnight going to most European destinations. I feel if FI had been timed well like this time, it would have been a better venture, just my opinion. The area sales rep came by our office & we were wholesaling for them & we participated in a night on the Castro party with ticket giveaways.
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:07 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
thomasphoto60 wrote:
Amazing for FI, what is this 17-18 US destinations? Well at least we here in Houston have been spared an invasion from those crazy Norsemen....so far...


Off the top of my head:

N-American dest. (incl. Canada):


Is Canada generally not considered part of North America? Why does it need to be noted that it is included?
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 pm

RWA380 wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
MontyP wrote:


Does this mean that the plane will be on the ground in SFO for over 20hrs? Doesn’t sound like great asset utilisation.


This question is asked on almost every thread about FI! Reason is: otherwise they miss the European connecting bank, rendering the route almost useless. How it's good asset utilisation: a) they do maintenance checks on the sitting aircraft that'd otherwise be done in KEF and b) all their 757s and 767s are completely owned by FI and have low depreciation value so they can afford to park them in order to sustain the route.

Other routes using the same model include ANC, DEN, DFW, MCI, MCO, PDX, SEA and YVR.

Regards!
Sveinn :)


This was the problem with FI's prior SFO service, the late evening departure from SFO mis-connected most of the network & required a forced overnight going to most European destinations. I feel if FI had been timed well like this time, it would have been a better venture, just my opinion. The area sales rep came by our office & we were wholesaling for them & we participated in a night on the Castro party with ticket giveaways.


The problem then was that they only had the one 767, so they couldn't let it sit for 20 hrs. Looking back they really should have had at least 2 aircraft to make the route work, but FI was under different management then and was completely re-structured in 2009 after the financial crash.
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:13 pm

WoW flight times on their flight this summer (times change 5/6, goes daily May19):
WW161 KEF1500 SFO1715
WW162 SFO1855 KEF1030+

Previous RON times:
WW161 KEF1600 SFO1815
WW162 SFO1220 KEF0410+

and IceAir778's FI flight times:
FI863 KEF1700 SFO1855
FI862 SFO1515 KEF0640
20.33hrs in SFO, 10.33hrs in KEF
So we're looking at FI being the last flight out and the first flight into KEF. Better times than WW's RON times too.

Edit: added FI's flight times
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:13 pm

whywhyzee wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
thomasphoto60 wrote:
Amazing for FI, what is this 17-18 US destinations? Well at least we here in Houston have been spared an invasion from those crazy Norsemen....so far...


Off the top of my head:

N-American dest. (incl. Canada):


Is Canada generally not considered part of North America? Why does it need to be noted that it is included?


Haha of course it is! It's just that he asked for the US destinations, and I decided to include Canada as well. :)
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:13 pm

stlgph wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
stlgph wrote:
IN Keflavik at 5p, arrival into SFO at 7p.

OUT (next day) San Francisco at 315p, arrival into KEF at 640.

If they're using the 767, that's going to be a helluva tight connection for many headed to the Eurobank.

At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays


If it arrives on time, that's an hour to unload a 767 at remote parking, get everyone onto shuttle buses, into the terminal, only to turn around for a number of flights to get back on ANOTHER shuttle bus and be sent back out to a remote stand to get on a plane.

That's less than an hour to connect to Frankfurt, Munich, an hour to catch a flight to London Heathrow, Berlin, Amsterdam, Brussels, and an hour plus a few minutes to spare to Copenhagen, London Gatwick, and so on and so forth.


I assume it would get a stand with an airbridge, as most of the frames coming from North America and going out to Europe..
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:13 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
whywhyzee wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:

Off the top of my head:

N-American dest. (incl. Canada):


Is Canada generally not considered part of North America? Why does it need to be noted that it is included?


Haha of course it is! It's just that he asked for the US destinations, and I decided to include Canada as well. :)


Haha fair enough ;)
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:27 pm

eaa3 wrote:
Chasensfo wrote:
Excited to see them here, but with the closest widebody remote spots to the A concourse being near the G-terminal(which sell out fast meaning many planes tow to North Cargo or the Superbay areal), all these "up-stream" tows against all the traffic headed to the 01s are really clogging up the airport. I wish the airport would wait until the new South Field remote spots open, along with the hotel, in a few years.

RJNUT wrote:
At least with the RON A/C it should depart OT every day, minimizing connection delays

Sometimes the tow back to the A terminal takes over an hour, and the last gating priority on ATC delay days are tows vs live inbounds, so don't count on that.


If you’re expecting a long tow back to the gate, leave earlier!

SFO's INTL term is a common use facility and this is right after a peak time. They're lucky if they get their promised 90 minutes, and we do not have room at peak time to have a 767 just chillin in the international ramp waiting for its gate. Sadly, the solution is not that simple at SFO, my friend.
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:41 pm

RWA380 wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
MontyP wrote:


Does this mean that the plane will be on the ground in SFO for over 20hrs? Doesn’t sound like great asset utilisation.


This question is asked on almost every thread about FI! Reason is: otherwise they miss the European connecting bank, rendering the route almost useless. How it's good asset utilisation: a) they do maintenance checks on the sitting aircraft that'd otherwise be done in KEF and b) all their 757s and 767s are completely owned by FI and have low depreciation value so they can afford to park them in order to sustain the route.

Other routes using the same model include ANC, DEN, DFW, MCI, MCO, PDX, SEA and YVR.

Regards!
Sveinn :)


This was the problem with FI's prior SFO service, the late evening departure from SFO mis-connected most of the network & required a forced overnight going to most European destinations. I feel if FI had been timed well like this time, it would have been a better venture, just my opinion. The area sales rep came by our office & we were wholesaling for them & we participated in a night on the Castro party with ticket giveaways.


FI RONs a lot of aircraft this way. They only have one connecting bank in each direction. I don't see how they can improve on that given the location if Iceland and flight times for the longer routes in North America.
 
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Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:46 pm

It continues to blow my mind how many flights operate out of the tiny KEF terminal. Does KEF have any long term plans to build a much larger terminal building with many more gates? At the rate it's growing, it's gonna need it.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:36 pm

TransWorldOne wrote:
It continues to blow my mind how many flights operate out of the tiny KEF terminal. Does KEF have any long term plans to build a much larger terminal building with many more gates? At the rate it's growing, it's gonna need it.


Yes https://www.isavia.is/files/kef-masterp ... al_web.pdf

The expansion is in progress.

Because it takes time to build the new pier to the east from the north building, they have added bussing gates and remote stands for a faster response and added 7,000 m2 to the south building after adding 5,000m2 in 2016. Two stands with air bridges have been added to the south building, providing now 12 stands with air bridges and two stands for stairs. They may have added airbridge # 13 by now. Their are between 15 to 20 remote stands
Regarding the north building, the check in hall and arrival hall was expand, the area and number of lines in security check doubled, luggage sorting facility doubled and provisions for container added.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:44 pm

MontyP wrote:
IceAir778 wrote:
icelandair75w wrote:
Flight seems to be for sale at icelandair.us as FI863 KEF-SFO and FI862 SFO-KEF.
Press release likely to follow soon, as well as schedule details!


FI has announced its next newest destination - SFO. FI will operate its 767s four times per week. Start from 01JUN through October.
The flight schedule is as follows:

FI863 KEF1700 SFO1855
FI862 SFO1515 KEF0640



Does this mean that the plane will be on the ground in SFO for over 20hrs? Doesn’t sound like great asset utilisation.


Icelandair tends to do this a lot. At least, I know they do at PDX and SEA...
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:52 pm

 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:59 pm

KEF is now - correct me if I am wrong - with more destinations to North America than ARN, CPH, HEL, OSL, BRU, DUB, GLA, EDI etc (secondary European cities).

FI:
ANC, BWI, BOS, CLE, DEN, DFW, EWR, IAD, JFK, MCI, MCO, MSP, ORD, PDX, PHL, SEA, SFO, TPA, YEG, YHZ, YUL, YVR, YYZ
= FI has 23 destinations

WW: BOS, BWI, EWR, CLE, CVG, DFW, DFTW, JFK, LAX, MIA, ORD, PIT, YUL, YYZ, STL, SFO
= WW has 16 destinations.

So total destinations to North America from KEF are:
ANC, BOS, BWI, CLE, CVG, DEN, DFW, DTW, EWR, IAD, JFK, LAX, MCI, MCO, MIA, MSP, ORD, PDX, PHL, PIT, SEA, SFO, STL, TPA, YEG, YHZ, YUL, YVR, YYZ,
= KEF has 28 destinations both in CAN and USA. That is amazing!

How many destination to USA+CAN has LHR, CDG, FRA and AMS out of Europe?
Would be nice to find that out! ...
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:08 am

IceAir778 wrote:
KEF is now - correct me if I am wrong - with more destinations to North America than ARN, CPH, HEL, OSL, BRU,

FI:
ANC, BWI, BOS, ORD, CLE, DFW, DEN, YEG, YHZ, MCI, MSP, JFK, EWR, MCO, PHL, PDX, SFO, IAD, SEA, TPA, YVR, YUL, YYZ
= FI has 23 destinations

WW: SFO, LAX, MIA, JFK, EWR, BWI, BOS, ORD, PIT, CLE, CVG, DTW, DFW, YUL, YYZ, STL,
= WW has 16 destinations.

So total destinations to North America from KEF are:
ANC, BOS, BWI, IAD, EWR, JFK, ORD, YYZ, YUL, LAX, MIA, PIT, CLE, CVG, DTW, DFW, STL, MCI, DEN, YEG, YHZ, MSP, MCO, TPA, PHL, PDX, SEA, YVR,
= KEF has 28 destinations both in CAN and USA. That is amazing!

How many destination to USA+CAN has LHR, CDG, FRA and AMS out of Europe?
Would be nice to find that out! ...


All you have to do is google it. BTW. Icelandair + WOW now serve 29 different cities in North America. You're missing one. It's easy logic to figure out as you just add the destinations that WOW serves but not Icelandair (6 in total) to Icelandair's number. By comparison, BA serves 28 destinations US and Canadian from Heathrow. Oakland and FLL are served from Gatwick.

By my count, Heathrow has 32 destinations.
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:29 am

eaa3 wrote:
IceAir778 wrote:
KEF is now - correct me if I am wrong - with more destinations to North America than ARN, CPH, HEL, OSL, BRU,

FI:
ANC, BWI, BOS, ORD, CLE, DFW, DEN, YEG, YHZ, MCI, MSP, JFK, EWR, MCO, PHL, PDX, SFO, IAD, SEA, TPA, YVR, YUL, YYZ
= FI has 23 destinations

WW: SFO, LAX, MIA, JFK, EWR, BWI, BOS, ORD, PIT, CLE, CVG, DTW, DFW, YUL, YYZ, STL,
= WW has 16 destinations.

So total destinations to North America from KEF are:
ANC, BOS, BWI, IAD, EWR, JFK, ORD, YYZ, YUL, LAX, MIA, PIT, CLE, CVG, DTW, DFW, STL, MCI, DEN, YEG, YHZ, MSP, MCO, TPA, PHL, PDX, SEA, YVR,
= KEF has 29 destinations both in CAN and USA. That is amazing!

How many destination to USA+CAN has LHR, CDG, FRA and AMS out of Europe?
Would be nice to find that out! ...


All you have to do is google it. BTW. Icelandair + WOW now serve 29 different cities in North America. You're missing one. It's easy logic to figure out as you just add the destinations that WOW serves but not Icelandair (6 in total) to Icelandair's number. By comparison, BA serves 28 destinations US and Canadian from Heathrow. Oakland and FLL are served from Gatwick.

By my count, Heathrow has 32 destinations.


Please tell me what is wrong then!
I checked me resource and this is correct :).


Yes, LHR has 32 destinations. Airport which is in UK (strong relation between UK and USA&CAN) and is the biggest airport in EUR. We are talking about 29 destinations from a much smaller airport than LHR - airport which is located in the land of fire and ice which has approx. 330.000 people ;).
That is amazing!

KEF is definitely becomming the DUBAI of the NORTH!
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:36 am

eaa3 wrote:
IceAir778 wrote:
KEF is now - correct me if I am wrong - with more destinations to North America than ARN, CPH, HEL, OSL, BRU,

FI:
ANC, BWI, BOS, ORD, CLE, DFW, DEN, YEG, YHZ, MCI, MSP, JFK, EWR, MCO, PHL, PDX, SFO, IAD, SEA, TPA, YVR, YUL, YYZ
= FI has 23 destinations

WW: SFO, LAX, MIA, JFK, EWR, BWI, BOS, ORD, PIT, CLE, CVG, DTW, DFW, YUL, YYZ, STL,
= WW has 16 destinations.

So total destinations to North America from KEF are:
ANC, BOS, BWI, IAD, EWR, JFK, ORD, YYZ, YUL, LAX, MIA, PIT, CLE, CVG, DTW, DFW, STL, MCI, DEN, YEG, YHZ, MSP, MCO, TPA, PHL, PDX, SEA, YVR,
= KEF has 28 destinations both in CAN and USA. That is amazing!

How many destination to USA+CAN has LHR, CDG, FRA and AMS out of Europe?
Would be nice to find that out! ...


All you have to do is google it. BTW. Icelandair + WOW now serve 29 different cities in North America. You're missing one. It's easy logic to figure out as you just add the destinations that WOW serves but not Icelandair (6 in total) to Icelandair's number. By comparison, BA serves 28 destinations US and Canadian from Heathrow. Oakland and FLL are served from Gatwick.


By my count, Heathrow has 32 destinations.


BA has also long served MCO and TPA from LGW. Better to count all LON-North America at once, I'd say. BA serves 32 US/CAN cities from LON.

FRA-US/CAN has 27 year round destinations, and an added 13 seasonal, for 40 total. * denotes seasonal service.

AC: YYC, YUL, YYZ, YOW*, YVR*

AA: CLT, DFW, PHL*

DE: LAS, SJU, SEA, ANC*, AUS*, BWI*, YYC*, FAI*, YHZ*, MSP*, MSY*, PIT*, PHX*, PDX*, YYZ*, YXY*, YVR*

DL: ATL, DTW, JFK

LH: BOS, ORD, DTW, DEN, DFW, IAH, LAX, MIA, JFK, EWR, MCO, PHL, SAN, SFO, SEA, TPA, YYZ, YVR, IAD, YUL*, SJC*

SQ: JFK

UA: ORD, IAH, EWR, SFO, IAD
 
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Re: Icelandair To Announce KEF-SFO

Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:42 am

IceAir778 wrote:
axiom wrote:
eaa3 wrote:

All you have to do is google it. BTW. Icelandair + WOW now serve 29 different cities in North America. You're missing one. It's easy logic to figure out as you just add the destinations that WOW serves but not Icelandair (6 in total) to Icelandair's number. By comparison, BA serves 28 destinations US and Canadian from Heathrow. Oakland and FLL are served from Gatwick.


By my count, Heathrow has 32 destinations.


BA has also long served MCO and TPA from LGW. Better to count all LON-North America at once, I'd say. BA serves 32 US/CAN cities from LON.

FRA-US/CAN has 27 year round destinations, and an added 13 seasonal, for 40 total. * denotes seasonal service.

AC: YYC, YUL, YYZ, YOW*, YVR*

AA: CLT, DFW, PHL*

DE: LAS, SJU, SEA, ANC*, AUS*, BWI*, YYC*, FAI*, YHZ*, MSP*, MSY*, PIT*, PHX*, PDX*, YYZ*, YXY*, YVR*

DL: ATL, DTW, JFK

LH: BOS, ORD, DTW, DEN, DFW, IAH, LAX, MIA, JFK, EWR, MCO, PHL, SAN, SFO, SEA, TPA, YYZ, YVR, IAD, YUL*, SJC*

SQ: JFK

UA: ORD, IAH, EWR, SFO, IAD


Thanks for this information! :bigthumbsup:

The comparison really shows the incredible breath and uniqueness of the KEF network. I've always enjoyed transiting KEF on FI, which provides just about the most seamless connection between by two homes on either side of the Atlantic!

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