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Tue May 01, 2018 2:35 am

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On another note, the whale arrives for regularly scheduled service starting on Friday. No special fanfare planned, just business as usual for BA. I suppose a water cannon salute may be in order, at least?


The first regular A350 (LH) got the water cannon salute a few weeks ago so I am sure the BA 380 will get the same.
 
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Tue May 01, 2018 12:07 pm

In preparation for its AKL-ORD flights beginning in November, Air New Zealand has added 94 domestic destinations to its codeshares with United.

For those who wondered why NZ wanted to start ORD (I know doubters where out there; I read them here on A-net), this list is a partial answer.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2018/
 
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Tue May 01, 2018 12:40 pm

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In preparation for its AKL-ORD flights beginning in November, Air New Zealand has added 94 domestic destinations to its codeshares with United.



Going westbound, NZ/*A can connect to a substantial number of Oceana markets without the big backtrack of going thru SYD.

https://www.airnewzealand.com/route-maps
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Tue May 01, 2018 3:09 pm

LOT will be operating 789 instead of 788 on its once-weekly KRK-ORD flight through April. "additional changes remain highly possible in the next few months"

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20180501
 
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Tue May 01, 2018 4:30 pm

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LOT will be operating 789 instead of 788 on its once-weekly KRK-ORD flight through April. "additional changes remain highly possible in the next few months"

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20180501


Nice, happy to see those 787-9's coming. Solid up-gauging by LOT. Previously it was reported that the -9 will replace -8 for daily WAW service starting tomorrow (it was 6x weekly as of March 30).

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-21nov17/
 
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Tue May 01, 2018 4:39 pm

With BA bringing in the whale and other additions this summer, what's the outlook for CBP and security looking like? I flew SK 946 last September and the security lines at 7PM took about 25 min to clear. BA is bringing in the A380 at a fairly busy time slot.

Are ORD officials advising to arrive earlier for lengthier security times? How is CBP expected to deal on the arrivals end?
 
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Tue May 01, 2018 8:10 pm

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Btw, am really impressed with the cabin: looks much sharper than the 744 I flew on last year.

https://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/new ... o-jet.html
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I flew BA's A380 LAX - LHR two weeks ago in seat 59K, and their 744 LHR - ORD in 64A a week later (one of the 744's with the updated cabin). Both seats were against the rear bulkhead, which provides additional leg room. I will say, the A380 seat feels wider, as the storage locker against the exterior is a little higher up, as opposed to the setup on the 744. You could definitely tell you were on a newer bird, the interior looked more modern. If you are upstairs on the 380, the forward lavatory is massive, compared to the lavatories on the top deck of the 744. I'd also add that the bedding you get on the 380 is better than what BA offers on the 744. Only complaints on the 380 versus 744 was the fact that the setup on the 380 on the top deck has a bit of a "U" design for the Premium Economy section just on the other side. When you walk out of 59K, you're pretty much in the lap of the person in 60F. The other issue on the 380 is that they still have Thales IEF, the screen looked extremely worn and was tough to see with the shades open.

BA's 744's with the refurbished interior have the Panasonic IEF system which was a definite upgrade - seemed to have more content, and the screen was far sharper. Seat 64A on that bird is the bassinet seat as well, so it's extra long. Plus, the stairs to the second floor come up underneath that spot, so you get a bit more space getting in and out of the seat. Without being in a First Class suite, you still feel as if you're on a private jet in that seat. The other bonus of being up top is how few seats are up there, and no economy sitting behind you - it's far quieter than the 380. Beyond that, you can see the age on the 744's: lockers look older, as does most of the interior.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 1:51 am

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LOT will be operating 789 instead of 788 on its once-weekly KRK-ORD flight through April. "additional changes remain highly possible in the next few months"

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20180501


I believe ORD-KRK is going 2x weekly as well.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 2:21 am

Just popping in to ask a question.

These ORD videos are from 1979
What runway is this? I believe it's 22L but I'm not 1005 sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXq0sHoolq8
People could just park on the road like that? Those were the days!


This one, I'm thinking 14R...again, not sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHSprcRxtYQ
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Wed May 02, 2018 2:34 am

First video is certainly 22L departures and the cars are parked along Irving Park Rd. Made a handful of trips there with my father before they disallowed it.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 2:44 am

Second video is taken from the parking garage looking over the old International Terminal where UA Terminal 1 is now (note the TWA and Lufthansa 747's).
I used to spot from that location back in the 70's and remember many late afternoon European heavies coming in to the terminal from a 22R landing like the the SAS DC-10 in the video. Even the familiar sounds of those older jets bring back memories!
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 3:00 am

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What runway is this? I believe it's 22L but I'm not 1005 sure



LOL...that should say 100% sure

2nd video...what about the 1st half?
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Wed May 02, 2018 3:17 am

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2nd video...what about the 1st half?


Judging by the angle of sight to the central tower and O'Hare Hilton, I'd guess we're seeing landings on 14R (later changed to 15) - the runway now being torn-up to make room for the new satellite terminals.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 11:48 am

yeogeo wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
2nd video...what about the 1st half?


Judging by the angle of sight to the central tower and O'Hare Hilton, I'd guess we're seeing landings on 14R (later changed to 15) - the runway now being torn-up to make room for the new satellite terminals.


I believe it's 22R, given the roadway and fence with the Hilton and Tower off to the left front...Could be recorded off Higgins just west of Mannheim.

Love the 2nd video. Back in the day I started up in the NWS tower overlooking the international terminal and Butler. When the shot of downtown skyline comes into view, you can see the old cargo area where Flying Tigers and the rest use to be. Victor taxiway was called "Cargo" before everything went Alpa/Numeric.

Great memories looking back at this and in some way, the airport hasn't changed. Cars, people and planes...
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 12:27 pm

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I believe it's 22R, given the roadway and fence with the Hilton and Tower off to the left front...Could be recorded off Higgins just west of Mannheim.


You could very well be right, now that you mention it, as the angle of of sight looking at the side of the parking garage is probably from the north, not the south.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 3:17 pm

I looked at a satellite photo of ORD. It seems to me that there could be enough room for a hotel, provided that it was built right along I-190, between the Mannheim and Bessie Coleman interchanges. In theory, the entrance to the hotel could be at the intersection, where the entrance and exit ramps for westbound I-190 meet Bessie Coleman. I assume that the footprint would have to be somewhat small, and it could only be several stories tall. But, I could see something the size of the standard Hampton Inn fitting in the space.

The question is what kinds of structures can go into an OFA location? Clearly, the elevated ATS tracks must either meet the guidelines or are grandfathered. Does the structure where parkers in E pay meet the guidelines, or does that have to come down?

The rental car garage is huge. But, how many levels will be for parking? If you look at a photo, E is very large, It goes both north and south of the ATS station. It even wraps around to the east of the Budget Rental Car lot. (I seem to remember parking there once, because I got a really good look at the landing gear of a 767 while loading bags into the trunk of my car.)
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 3:24 pm

Some AA ORD news:

From ORD: Daily winter seasonal service to HNL and four new routes to the Caribbean: AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS

American will seek a dormancy waiver from the U.S. Department of Transportation to discontinue its service between Chicago O’Hare International Airport (ORD) and Beijing Capital International Airport (PEK). The airline also announced it plans to remove the nonstop ORD–PEK service from its schedule in October.

https://newsroom.aviator.aero/american- ... ic-routes/

I wonder if this makes ORD-PEK seasonal or permanent drop?
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 3:26 pm

As much as dealing with CPB lines in Terminal 5 could be problematic, what has me worried is simply getting bags onto the carousel. Three years ago, we were on the 773 flight to ORD from LHR. It took forever to get bags onto the carousel, simply because of the volume and size of the bags. There were two airport employees whose jobs were to rearrange bags as they dropped onto the carousel, so that it didn't jam up. I thought, considering that the BA flight arrived during a lull, that they should have put F and J bags on one carousel and Y bags on another. I can't imagine how long it will take to get the bags off of an A380 (469 seats) versus a 773 (299 seats).
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 3:54 pm

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As much as dealing with CPB lines in Terminal 5 could be problematic, what has me worried is simply getting bags onto the carousel. Three years ago, we were on the 773 flight to ORD from LHR (London (Heathrow) - England). It took forever to get bags onto the carousel, simply because of the volume and size of the bags. There were two airport employees whose jobs were to rearrange bags as they dropped onto the carousel, so that it didn't jam up. I thought, considering that the BA flight arrived during a lull, that they should have put F and J bags on one carousel and Y bags on another. I can't imagine how long it will take to get the bags off of an A380 (469 seats) versus a 773 (299 seats).


LH's 748 arrival usually takes two carousels (one for O&D and one for transfer passengers) so I'd imagine they absolutely need to do something similar for the A380 considering the capacity jump from the 748.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 5:18 pm

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Some AA ORD news:

From ORD: Daily winter seasonal service to HNL and ...the airline also announced it plans to remove the nonstop ORD–PEK service from its schedule in October.

https://newsroom.aviator.aero/american- ... ic-routes/


Being discussed here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1393121
...where its mentioned that the HNL flight is only during Christmas and Spring Break - not quite "winter seasonal" - but nonetheless the Caribbean routes are a nice add -

Hope the Grand Cayman flights don't chase out the turtle!
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 5:36 pm

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Some AA ORD news:

From ORD: Daily winter seasonal service to HNL and four new routes to the Caribbean: AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS


Are these really daily?

Historically, it seems like AA typically doesn't like to overfly MIA to the Caribbean which puts AA at a disadvantage to UA at ORD who seems to have a lot more non-stop to the Caribbean. Even a Saturday only flight on UA is preferable to flying through MIA.

But this is huge! Kudos to AA for stepping up this game.

I would be curious to how AA and UA compare on ORD to the Caribbean non-stop now. Does anyone have the list of routes?
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 6:30 pm

United787 wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
Some AA ORD news:

From ORD: Daily winter seasonal service to HNL and four new routes to the Caribbean: AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS


Are these really daily?

Historically, it seems like AA typically doesn't like to overfly MIA to the Caribbean which puts AA at a disadvantage to UA at ORD who seems to have a lot more non-stop to the Caribbean. Even a Saturday only flight on UA is preferable to flying through MIA.

But this is huge! Kudos to AA for stepping up this game.

I would be curious to how AA and UA compare on ORD to the Caribbean non-stop now. Does anyone have the list of routes?


No, the release is drafted oddly. HNL is daily (for a short period of time). The others are Saturday only.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 6:48 pm

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I would be curious to how AA and UA compare on ORD to the Caribbean non-stop now. Does anyone have the list of routes?


I will answer my own question:

Non-stops to the Caribbean from ORD including the new announcement. Previously it was AA 3 to UA 10 - Now it is AA 7 to UA 10:

AA: MBJ, SJU, PUJ, AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS
UA: MBJ, SJU, PUJ, AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS, UVF, SXM, STT

UA also flies to CZM and BZE, depending on how you define Caribbean. Both fly to CUN, naturally.

IMHO, this kind of move is exactly what AA needs to do to be more competitive at ORD.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 7:27 pm

On the thread it also stated that ORD-CUN would drop to 2 a day but both flights would be operated by 787-8s.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 7:34 pm

ORD-HNL will run 12/19-1/5 and then 2/14-4/1 according to the AA 2018 route announcements thread.
Plane will be another 787-8
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 10:18 pm

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ckfred wrote:
As much as dealing with CPB lines in Terminal 5 could be problematic, what has me worried is simply getting bags onto the carousel. Three years ago, we were on the 773 flight to ORD from LHR (London (Heathrow) - England). It took forever to get bags onto the carousel, simply because of the volume and size of the bags. There were two airport employees whose jobs were to rearrange bags as they dropped onto the carousel, so that it didn't jam up. I thought, considering that the BA flight arrived during a lull, that they should have put F and J bags on one carousel and Y bags on another. I can't imagine how long it will take to get the bags off of an A380 (469 seats) versus a 773 (299 seats).


LH's 748 arrival usually takes two carousels (one for O&D and one for transfer passengers) so I'd imagine they absolutely need to do something similar for the A380 considering the capacity jump from the 748.


This does not happen anymore. Even BA understands the amount of activity in the hall might, on some days limit to only one carousel. If people aren't being processed fast enough, no amount of carousels will help. Bags will just pile up.
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 10:32 pm

Interesting article, I thought, and refers to both ORD and MDW:
https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/re ... ions-87965

"The Airport Retail Boom Is Being Fueled By Celebrity Chefs, Local Businesses"

At O'Hare the three year, $26M renovation program that resulted in 24 new retail and dining establishments at O'Hare created an 82% increase in retail sales at the airport.

“Airports are mixed-use entertainment and retail centers that just happen to have planes outside.” :checkmark:

The concept of removing moving walkways to encourage browsing is involved; I've noticed the now completed removal of these in the C gates in Terminal 1, O'Hare.

Midway also is in progress:
"As part of Midway Airport’s $75M infrastructure improvement plan, the Chicago Department of Aviation is removing floating walkways, Ward said. Gensler found these people movers obstruct retail, and that people walking to a gate are more engaged with their surroundings, and are more likely to stop at a restaurant or store, than if they rode the walkways. So far, four of Midway Airport’s seven people-movers have been removed."
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 12:55 pm

Bill Wang has the first photo in the Airliners database of Norwegian at O'Hare - a beauty! - a 789 with Joan Miró on the tail.

 
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Extremely comprehensive article with some great graphics and photos about the history/evolution of ORD, a must read for everyone interested in O'Hare:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-o ... story.html
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 4:29 pm

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yeogeo wrote:
LOT will be operating 789 instead of 788 on its once-weekly KRK-ORD flight through April. "additional changes remain highly possible in the next few months"

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20180501


I believe ORD-KRK is going 2x weekly as well.
Good to see polish services are going good and maybe RZE is next.
 
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Extremely comprehensive article with some great graphics and photos about the history/evolution of ORD, a must read for everyone interested in O'Hare:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-o ... story.html


Very good article. I can remember everything, going back to the opening of the parking garage, the opening of the I.M. Pei-designed control tower, and the opening of the O'Hare Hilton. I remember back when the parking lot at ORD was simply one giant surface lot in front of the terminals. The secret that few people knew was that there was a parking lot adjacent to Terminal 3 that sat along the Concourse K alley. You could walk out of the baggage claim and be out to your car within a few minutes. That lot disappeared, when Delta started building Concourse L.
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 6:30 pm

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Good to see polish services are going good and maybe RZE is next.


Fill me in - what's up with Rzeszów? I only know what I just read: 8th busiest international a/p in SE Poland.
Why RZE over KTW (Katowice Airport), for example, (with 21% growth last year) - or other larger volume airports in Poland?
Pretty amazing growth going on at Polish airports, incidentally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _in_Poland
 
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Extremely comprehensive article with some great graphics and photos about the history/evolution of ORD, a must read for everyone interested in O'Hare:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-o ... story.html


Wow! What a great article. Many photographs I've never seen.

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fsafsx wrote:
CHI2DFW wrote:
yeogeo wrote:
LOT will be operating 789 instead of 788 on its once-weekly KRK-ORD flight through April. "additional changes remain highly possible in the next few months"

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20180501


I believe ORD-KRK is going 2x weekly as well.
Good to see polish services are going good and maybe RZE is next.


KRK is between RZE and KTW and probably can serve the region. If there is demand and money, LO could do a W route to those like they do a KRK.
 
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As much as dealing with CPB lines in Terminal 5 could be problematic, what has me worried is simply getting bags onto the carousel. Three years ago, we were on the 773 flight to ORD from LHR. It took forever to get bags onto the carousel, simply because of the volume and size of the bags. There were two airport employees whose jobs were to rearrange bags as they dropped onto the carousel, so that it didn't jam up. I thought, considering that the BA flight arrived during a lull, that they should have put F and J bags on one carousel and Y bags on another. I can't imagine how long it will take to get the bags off of an A380 (469 seats) versus a 773 (299 seats).


CHI787ORD wrote:
With BA bringing in the whale and other additions this summer, what's the outlook for CBP and security looking like? I flew SK 946 last September and the security lines at 7PM took about 25 min to clear. BA is bringing in the A380 at a fairly busy time slot.

Are ORD officials advising to arrive earlier for lengthier security times? How is CBP expected to deal on the arrivals end?


I've been thinking about the same thing recently. From memory though, arrivals and CBP has seemed pretty busy every summer I can remember going back to the first I flew through T5 back in '94. Past couple years have probably been worse than historical normal I think, and I do believe those kiosks actually slow things down.

Last year I flew AA 47 LHR-ORD and landed around noon and arrivals was about as crowded as I've ever seen. Carousel capacity was so restricted that their were airport workers taking suitcases off the belts and lining them up and down alongside the carousels. That was a first. With the whale coming and all the upguaging and recent yield increases, T5 will be at the seams this summer and beyond I think. I've typically budgeted about 45min - 1 hour from gate to curb in the summer months, but last year was a little over. Maybe that's the new normal for now...?
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 4:09 am

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fsafsx wrote:
CHI2DFW wrote:

I believe ORD-KRK is going 2x weekly as well.
Good to see polish services are going good and maybe RZE is next.


KRK is between RZE and KTW and probably can serve the region. If there is demand and money, LO could do a W route to those like they do a KRK.
Why cant they do both perhaps? Chicagoland has the largest concentration of poles in the us.
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 4:38 am

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United787 wrote:
Extremely comprehensive article with some great graphics and photos about the history/evolution of ORD, a must read for everyone interested in O'Hare:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-o ... story.html


Wow! What a great article. Many photographs I've never seen.

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Funny you post that. I have one of the original hand-drawn proposed layout plans for “Orchard Place”. It’s now one of my most prized possessions. Amazing to see the history of this airport, and just how much it has changed since WWII!

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Fri May 04, 2018 6:04 am

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I looked at a satellite photo of ORD. It seems to me that there could be enough room for a hotel, provided that it was built right along I-190, between the Mannheim and Bessie Coleman interchanges. In theory, the entrance to the hotel could be at the intersection, where the entrance and exit ramps for westbound I-190 meet Bessie Coleman. I assume that the footprint would have to be somewhat small, and it could only be several stories tall. But, I could see something the size of the standard Hampton Inn fitting in the space.

The question is what kinds of structures can go into an OFA location? Clearly, the elevated ATS tracks must either meet the guidelines or are grandfathered. Does the structure where parkers in E pay meet the guidelines, or does that have to come down?

The rental car garage is huge. But, how many levels will be for parking? If you look at a photo, E is very large, It goes both north and south of the ATS station. It even wraps around to the east of the Budget Rental Car lot. (I seem to remember parking there once, because I got a really good look at the landing gear of a 767 while loading bags into the trunk of my car.)


1. No, 190 has to be widened, and the city's plan is to shut down everything south of G. The employee lot that is currently near there is in the process of being relocated. The two locations for additional hotels are next to the new parking garage at T5 and (somehow) adjacent or connected (it wasn't specified) to the new rental/bus facility. The city advertised for "bids" on managing those properties, but they are not part of Phase I of the TAP (I suspect they will be built separately, as everything in Phase II is à la carte). As far as whether they could build it there: they seem to be leaving that area alone, perhaps for cargo expansion? I also don't know what precisely an OFA entails, but it's a mathematical formula that basically seems to rise at a 2% slope (to a limit of 150') once past the runway OFZ and inner approach OFZ. https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... 00_13a.pdf

2. Roughly 2/3 of the new garage will go to the rental firms (4500 spaces plus support facilities vs. 2676 public). But the garage can be expanded to nine stories (currently five) as needed. I would start on it now, given that E has 6916 spaces -- maybe they won't close E right away (runway isn't due until 2020)? As you said, that's a LOT of spaces to replace.
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 12:45 pm

The O'Hare Terminal Area Plan (TAP) renderings have been revised with labeling, which is helpful, but the biggest change is that a hotel has sprung up in the Terminal 5 view.
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The previous rendering of the same viewpoint can be seen at post 233 (p5).

All the renderings can be found here:
http://www.flychicago.com/sites/ohare21 ... fault.aspx
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 12:58 pm

Just thought of something.

Are they still going to call the Terminals 1, 2, 3 and 5 when the construction is completed? Or will they move to an ATL style naming and call the Concourses A, B, C, etc since they are doing away with the current terminal design long term?
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 4:17 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
Are they still going to call the Terminals 1, 2, 3 and 5 when the construction is completed? Or will they move to an ATL style naming and call the Concourses A, B, C, etc since they are doing away with the current terminal design long term?



I suppose Terminal 5 can remain as is, but you're right: somebody is going to have to organize this into a system that makes sense, keeping in mind that further terminals are possible beyond "Satellite 2".

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Sat May 05, 2018 1:35 am

Global Travel Industry News has a little bit of an article on the new service by LOT between Budapest and O'Hare from the Hungarian perspective. Its a pretty big deal to them: having service to New York JFK (launched 3 May) and Chicago (begins May 5).

https://www.eturbonews.com/184435/us-no ... st-airport

"With the launch of the US flights having such importance to Budapest, it is not surprising that the airport had a large US-themed party to mark the first departure. Passengers and VIPs including Péter Szijjártó, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade, David Kostelancik, Chargé of US Embassy in Hungary and Jerzy Snopek, Polish Ambassador in Hungary, took part in the celebrations which included an impressive cake and traditional ribbon cutting to mark the significant occasion."

Its also mentioned that there is a "market potential" of more than 42,000 annual passengers between BUD & ORD.
 
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Sat May 05, 2018 8:01 am

Avianca adds BOG-ORD from 17NOV18.

AV082 BOG 14:58 20:38 ORD 319 1356
AV083 ORD 22:01 05:15+1 BOG 319 1356

Regards.
 
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Sat May 05, 2018 12:59 pm

cero852 wrote:
Avianca adds BOG-ORD from 17NOV18.


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Great - Been expecting this for a long time!

Last discussed here:
viewtopic.php?t=1379813
 
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Sat May 05, 2018 1:07 pm

Some photos and a little video from yesterday's BA 297 arrival are on Intagram's T5 page. Looks like she got the water cannon salute :D

https://www.instagram.com/explore/locat ... erminal-5/
 
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Sat May 05, 2018 1:12 pm

yeogeo wrote:
Great - Been expecting this for a long time!


cero852 wrote:
Avianca adds BOG-ORD from 17NOV18.

AV082 BOG 14:58 20:38 ORD 319 1356
AV083 ORD 22:01 05:15+1 BOG 319 1356

Regards.


Agreed...happy to see this as well, but seems like quite a long ride in an 319.

Farthest I've ever flown in a 319 was ORD-SFO, but BOG has a good 1,000mi on that.
 
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Mon May 07, 2018 12:18 am

Newest ORD bird is in the database X 2:

Congrats, Wang and Voukadinov!
 
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Mon May 07, 2018 12:25 am

ORDfan wrote:
...seems like quite a long ride in an 319.

Farthest I've ever flown in a 319 was ORD-SFO, but BOG has a good 1,000mi on that.


A little over 6 hours in flight ...wouldn't deter me!
 
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Mon May 07, 2018 1:03 am

ORDfan wrote:
yeogeo wrote:
Great - Been expecting this for a long time!


cero852 wrote:
Avianca adds BOG-ORD from 17NOV18.

AV082 BOG 14:58 20:38 ORD 319 1356
AV083 ORD 22:01 05:15+1 BOG 319 1356

Regards.


Agreed...happy to see this as well, but seems like quite a long ride in an 319.

Farthest I've ever flown in a 319 was ORD-SFO, but BOG has a good 1,000mi on that.


yeogeo wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
...seems like quite a long ride in an 319.

Farthest I've ever flown in a 319 was ORD-SFO, but BOG has a good 1,000mi on that.


A little over 6 hours in flight ...wouldn't deter me!


Interestingly enough AV does the longest scheduled A319 flight (BOG-MVD-BOG) it being 4,771 km per segment. BOG-ORD-BOG will still be a shorter flight by around 450 km (280 miles). Definitely not bad at all considering AV's service and inflight entertainment.
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Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

Mon May 07, 2018 3:18 pm

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1. No, 190 has to be widened, and the city's plan is to shut down everything south of G. The employee lot that is currently near there is in the process of being relocated. The two locations for additional hotels are next to the new parking garage at T5 and (somehow) adjacent or connected (it wasn't specified) to the new rental/bus facility. The city advertised for "bids" on managing those properties, but they are not part of Phase I of the TAP (I suspect they will be built separately, as everything in Phase II is à la carte). As far as whether they could build it there: they seem to be leaving that area alone, perhaps for cargo expansion? I also don't know what precisely an OFA entails, but it's a mathematical formula that basically seems to rise at a 2% slope (to a limit of 150') once past the runway OFZ and inner approach OFZ. https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... 00_13a.pdf

2. Roughly 2/3 of the new garage will go to the rental firms (4500 spaces plus support facilities vs. 2676 public). But the garage can be expanded to nine stories (currently five) as needed. I would start on it now, given that E has 6916 spaces -- maybe they won't close E right away (runway isn't due until 2020)? As you said, that's a LOT of spaces to replace.


Yes, I-190 needs to be widened, but the real issue is outbound, east of Bessie Coleman. There is the confounding shoulder that has the red X, when it's backed up, and the green arrow, when traffic is light. The other issue that will get worse is trying to get off onto northbound Mannheim, which requires crossing over the lanes coming out of the toll both from traffic exiting southbound I-294.

But, I think the solution for E is to reconfigure it, so that traffic enters and exits the lot from Mannheim. Since that is to the east of the ATS tracks, presumably that booth for obtaining and paying for tickets could be as tall as the ATS tracks.

Knowing the City, if they started today on adding floors to the rental car garage, it would not be done before 9C/27C opened in 2020.

The Chicago Tribune had an article that indicated that the City wants to use dynamic pricing for parking. But, the City also wants to make parking attractive, such that people will be discouraged from going to off-site parking. If the number of spaces on airport property decreases, the City will actually need to increase rates, in order to drive some people to off-property parking as routine. Otherwise, the barricades indicating full lots will become even more frequent.

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