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Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:28 pm

I'm sure any architectural firm that is a legit contender has already heard about the ORD competition, but it's still cool to see the project getting a promo on well-trafficked design site like Arch-Paper.

Also cool that invitees get 50k stipend, though I imagine bidders will probably go over that to get a crack at a project like this.

https://archpaper.com/2018/07/chicago-l ... expansion/
 
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:41 pm

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1. First they need to hire the architectural teams. I am guessing the work will be divided into a couple of different teams. IMHO, T5 will one firm and the T2 etc. will be another and maybe even more. Although T5 has been “in the works” to some degree, I haven’t seen any indication they have had an architect has been working on design drawings… maybe planning. So expect another couple of weeks before they announce the teams.
2. The architectural teams will need to go through their design process. I would expect 9-15 months but hopefully they can release certain construction document packages in pieces so they can begin construction earlier.
3. And then construction starts…


Another thank-you for your post. :thumbsup:

A little more info: here's the link to the formal RFP https://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/dps/ContractAdministration/Specs/2018/Spec428915.pdf. The city is doing it in a very intelligent way, IMO: there will be a first stage of submissions, due August 8 (now there's a sense of urgency), in which the teams will submit an SOQ (Statement of Qualifications). Firms must prove they have "demonstrated experience, expertise and resources to provide the design, engineering and construction administration services" of the TAP. (Does NOT include nine-gate T5 work, so no answer here as to who the planner/architect is for that.) The city will select up to five finalists who will then each receive $50,000 stipend to help defray expenses. No date has yet been set for the finalists to return their proposals.

In an unusual twist, the winner will design OGT/OGC (the city refers to both, as if they're separate)... but today's runner up gets to design S1 and S2 as their consolation prize! Yes, lucky reader, you read that right. A rather snippy note after explaining that in the RFP: "CDA intends for the TAP development program to have a cohesive design esthetic and it will be required for both teams to work collaboratively throughout the design process." There's even penalties, awarding the contracts to the next finialists, if everybody doesn't play nicely. (I find it funny that the second-place finisher will have completed, working structures when the OGT is a hole in the ground.)

And, in the Irony of the Day department, my entry is that SOQs are to be submitted to "Jamie L. Rhee, Chief Procurement Officer".
 
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Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:00 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
chidino wrote:
airborneX0101 wrote:

I actually flew out of T5 on Frontier recently and we boarded using gate M2. Since our flight was early in the morning there were only two or three other planes at the other gates so Frontier could've really used any of the gates, but I'm assuming they'll be sticking to the smaller gates of T5 (M1-M3, maybe M18 and M20?). On the return trip we deboarded at gate M20 mostly because all the other gates were full as it was around 3 pm and the transatlantic bound flights were getting prepped and deboarded/boarded.


The single-numbered gates, yes. Not M18/20, because east side of T5 is arrivals only.


Departures are run out of all gates. Although there's a logistical issue with M1, 2 and 3 and 19, 20 and 21 with crossovers.


just so odd. why not moved the operation to Midway.... plenty of gates available.
 
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:42 pm

Midway737 wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:
chidino wrote:

The single-numbered gates, yes. Not M18/20, because east side of T5 is arrivals only.


Departures are run out of all gates. Although there's a logistical issue with M1, 2 and 3 and 19, 20 and 21 with crossovers.


just so odd. why not moved the operation to Midway.... plenty of gates available.


Maybe because ORD doesn’t have a LCC hubbed at it...but MDW is the largest LCC hub?
 
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:36 pm

Midway737 wrote:
jcwr56 wrote:
chidino wrote:

The single-numbered gates, yes. Not M18/20, because east side of T5 is arrivals only.


Departures are run out of all gates. Although there's a logistical issue with M1, 2 and 3 and 19, 20 and 21 with crossovers.


just so odd. why not moved the operation to Midway.... plenty of gates available.


They moved from MDW about 2 years ago.
 
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:23 pm

According to Routesonline Etihad will be changing their daily flight back to an afternoon arrival and evening departure.
Beginning 10-28-18
EY151 AUH 0925-1430 ORD 77WD
EY150 ORD 2025-1955+1 AUH 77WD

Also, LOT will put the 787-9 on the KRK flight but it remains at 1x daily through the winter.
 
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:50 pm

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They’ve also added several good eating options and completely gutted the central area of T5. I think it’s really nice and they did the absolute best they could with the limited space.


But that security area is a huge mess. Granted, I've done it at near peak times (7pm Swiss flight a couple times, 9pm LOT flight once), but it was a disorganized mess, especially after the ID checkers. Did it a week ago, was in the business line, and it still took me 30 minutes to get through security. Perhaps I'm too used to going through PreCheck lines in the domestic terminals.
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:20 pm

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Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:56 pm

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Also, LOT will put the 787-9 on the KRK flight but it remains at 1x daily through the winter.


I think you mean 1x weekly? They currently fly 2x weekly with the 788.
 
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Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:28 pm

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Planeboy17 wrote:

Also, LOT will put the 787-9 on the KRK flight but it remains at 1x daily through the winter.


I think you mean 1x weekly? They currently fly 2x weekly with the 788.

Yes, thank you for catching that.
 
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Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:04 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
According to Routesonline Etihad will be changing their daily flight back to an afternoon arrival and evening departure.
Beginning 10-28-18
EY151 AUH 0925-1430 ORD 77WD
EY150 ORD 2025-1955+1 AUH 77WD

Also, LOT will put the 787-9 on the KRK flight but it remains at 1x daily through the winter.


Makes the evening security lines even worse
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:31 pm

Mayor Rahm is on his way to China and per an article in Crains Chicago business, he expects to announce a new non stop route to China. Any guesses? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthr ... 33&page=87
Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
 
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Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:40 pm

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Mayor Rahm is on his way to China and per an article in Crains Chicago business, he expects to announce a new non stop route to China. Any guesses? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthr ... 33&page=87


Qingdao.

CRRC Sifang America, which is headquartered in Oak Brook, is set to open a new 380,994ft final assembly plant on the city's Southeast Side in the next few months. They have an agreement to produce up to 900 new rail cars for the CTA. In addition, they are currently in talks with other US Cities to build new light rail/subway style vehicles.

CRRC Qingdao Sifang, whose world headquarters is based in Qingdao, Shandong, China is hoping for a direct flight for business/manufacturing purposes. My guess is that it would be 3 weekly on Xiamen Airlines.
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:56 am

...Or perhaps the previously hinted at Sichuan Airlines' Chengdu (CTU) service? (see page 11, post 506)
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:23 pm

My guess is that there will not be any new China routes from ORD given the saturation of the ORD-China market (see the thread on AA dropping ORD-PEK) and also the uncertainty created by the new political climate / trade wars.
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:06 pm

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My guess is that there will not be any new China routes from ORD given the saturation of the ORD-China market (see the thread on AA dropping ORD-PEK) and also the uncertainty created by the new political climate / trade wars.

I agree except for 2 things;
1. Pretty much all US cities to China yields stink right now but routes still are being added.
2. The Chinese carriers, especially the ones trying to make a name for themselves like Sichuan and Xiamen, seem like they will continue to do so.
Just my opinion.
 
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Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:57 pm

Great article in Crain's about the impressive cargo growth ORD has seen in recent years. Volumes have slowed a bit this year (as they have everywhere), a la trade tensions, but still growing fast enough to rank 6th globally for growth during the last 12 months.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... lying-high

https://logindex.com/blog/how-are-top-c ... erforming/

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Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:30 pm

yeogeo wrote:
...Or perhaps the previously hinted at Sichuan Airlines' Chengdu (CTU) service? (see page 11, post 506)


Yikes, not a good airline for the route. The best airline for the route is Air China, because of the connections over each hub (* Alliance partners).

Someone showed me a chinese article claiming it would be Hainan though.

ORDfan wrote:
Great article in Crain's about the impressive cargo growth ORD has seen in recent years. Volumes have slowed a bit this year (as they have everywhere), a la trade tensions, but still growing fast enough to rank 6th globally for growth during the last 12 months.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... lying-high

https://logindex.com/blog/how-are-top-c ... erforming/

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Great to see this.

Planeboy17 wrote:
United787 wrote:
My guess is that there will not be any new China routes from ORD given the saturation of the ORD-China market (see the thread on AA dropping ORD-PEK) and also the uncertainty created by the new political climate / trade wars.

I agree except for 2 things;
1. Pretty much all US cities to China yields stink right now but routes still are being added.
2. The Chinese carriers, especially the ones trying to make a name for themselves like Sichuan and Xiamen, seem like they will continue to do so.
Just my opinion.


Exactly why I think Air China is a better addition even with the terrible finances. Hainan maybe as mentioned above.

yeogeo wrote:
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I saw it take off and thought we got TAP service!!! A bit too soon to celebrate that victory I guess. I would upload a picture but have no idea how to do so.

timberwolf24 wrote:
Mayor Rahm is on his way to China and per an article in Crains Chicago business, he expects to announce a new non stop route to China. Any guesses? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthr ... 33&page=87


Air China or Hainan on CTU-ORD, long shot is China Southern to CAN (bilateral prohibitive), or another city such as SZX (?). Shot in the dark.
piedmontf284000 wrote:
timberwolf24 wrote:
Mayor Rahm is on his way to China and per an article in Crains Chicago business, he expects to announce a new non stop route to China. Any guesses? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthr ... 33&page=87


Qingdao.

CRRC Sifang America, which is headquartered in Oak Brook, is set to open a new 380,994ft final assembly plant on the city's Southeast Side in the next few months. They have an agreement to produce up to 900 new rail cars for the CTA. In addition, they are currently in talks with other US Cities to build new light rail/subway style vehicles.

CRRC Qingdao Sifang, whose world headquarters is based in Qingdao, Shandong, China is hoping for a direct flight for business/manufacturing purposes. My guess is that it would be 3 weekly on Xiamen Airlines.


I wonder how the LAX route is doing.
 
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Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:50 pm

Just added to the database; nice O'Hare shot by the ubiquitous "Ubiquitous Bobo"

I think I've seen this set-up with the airport parking sign before with other a/c - wonder if I could find some...
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:52 am

..That wasn't too hard - here are a couple more:
 
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:35 pm

Not sure if it's been posted, but the NZ timetable for AKL-ORD is online now. Looks like great departure times on both legs to me.

Some good deals to SYD here too btw. Booking my flight this week!

https://www.airnewzealand.com/flights-t ... om-chicago
 
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:58 pm

ORDfan wrote:
Not sure if it's been posted, but the NZ timetable for AKL-ORD is online now. Looks like great departure times on both legs to me.

Some good deals to SYD here too btw. Booking my flight this week!

https://www.airnewzealand.com/flights-t ... om-chicago


The inaugural flight's been retimed 3 hours earlier to a 1300 arrival for all you spotters out there.
 
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:25 pm

jcwr56 wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
Not sure if it's been posted, but the NZ timetable for AKL-ORD is online now. Looks like great departure times on both legs to me.

Some good deals to SYD here too btw. Booking my flight this week!

https://www.airnewzealand.com/flights-t ... om-chicago


The inaugural flight's been retimed 3 hours earlier to a 1300 arrival for all you spotters out there.


Hopefully they can get the 787 issues resolved so it can fly....
 
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:52 am

jcwr56 wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
Not sure if it's been posted, but the NZ timetable for AKL-ORD is online now. Looks like great departure times on both legs to me.

Some good deals to SYD here too btw. Booking my flight this week!

https://www.airnewzealand.com/flights-t ... om-chicago


The inaugural flight's been retimed 3 hours earlier to a 1300 arrival for all you spotters out there.


That's good! Should still be some decent daylight at 1300... if it's not snowing! :)

nmdrdh787 wrote:
Hopefully they can get the 787 issues resolved so it can fly....


Shoot...didn't realize those were RR birds. I hope so too - fingers crossed. Imagine they'd maybe shift some equipment around to not have to push this new route back? Looks like NZ is leasing a couple 77W to accommodate for the affected 787s.
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:35 pm

May data posted today by the CDA. Synopsis: another very impressive month overall, with freight, domestic, and international traffic all higher y-o-y. Actually a bit surprised by the international freight #, as I'd been expecting a bit of a slowdown given all the tariff chatter....perhaps it hasn't materialized yet, and not reflected in retroactive data.

International pax traffic continues to shine brightly, now up 10% y-o-y! Even domestic is up over 3%, sheesh. The expansion can't come soon enough!

https://www.flychicago.com/SiteCollecti ... UMMARY.pdf
 
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Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:19 pm

With any sort of project, whether public sector or private, if you give a general deadline for completion and it's missed, whether because of mismanagement/stupidity or legitimate reasons (weather, strikes, serious problem with supplier, etc), people get mad.

On the other hand, when there is no stated deadline or description of the project, people also get mad.

Now, it seems that in Chicago, when there is a major road project (expressway, tollway, or major arterial street, there is a timetable that is made known to the public. Sometimes those timetables are off, normally because of long spells of bad weather. But projects in Chicago have been kept sort of hush-hush, ever since Millennial Park wound up over-budget and finished far behind schedule.

People are right about the stinger gates. A friend of mine is an AA pilot, and he never saw any sort of rendering of the concourse in company communications. That's a bit surprising, since AA paid for the construction.
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:55 am

In other news The Rolling Stones just arrived in ORD today from MAN on a 767-300 reg. ZS-NEX. This particular aircraft flew for LOT Polish Airlines as SP-LPA and was their first 767-300 being delivered way back in 1990. Lets just say this plane has a visited ORD a few times before :duck:
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:45 am

_AA_777_MAN wrote:
In other news The Rolling Stones just arrived in ORD today from MAN on a 767-300...


I bet they flew on a 707 or DC-8 for their very first concert tour in the US. It's surprising that Mick Jagger and Keith Richards have outlived many of their contemporaries.
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:42 am

It actually was the Manchester City F.C. in town for their game at Soldier Field Friday night and not the Rolling Stones
 
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Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:36 pm

klemma24 wrote:
It actually was the Manchester City F.C. in town for their game at Soldier Field Friday night and not the Rolling Stones


Interesting, I was more excited that it was ex SP-LPA than Rolling Stones anyway lol :D
 
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Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:45 am

FWIW, United's O'Hare Terminal 1 Polaris Lounge won best business class lounge in US from Skytrax.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... 1027383960
 
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Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:42 pm

_AA_777_MAN wrote:
klemma24 wrote:
It actually was the Manchester City F.C. in town for their game at Soldier Field Friday night and not the Rolling Stones


Interesting, I was more excited that it was ex SP-LPA than Rolling Stones anyway lol :D


So was it that 763 that had a small cheat line under the windows and blue nacelles and white everywhere else?
 
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Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:14 pm

Question for the ORD AA regulars here.

I took an AA flight a few weeks ago through T3, and noticed the main hall had only American flags. It's been a very long time since I've flown through T3; is this a permanent change or was it simply due to the 4th of July holiday week? I'd hope to see the international flags return, personally.
 
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ORDfan wrote:
Question for the ORD AA regulars here.

I took an AA flight a few weeks ago through T3, and noticed the main hall had only American flags. It's been a very long time since I've flown through T3; is this a permanent change or was it simply due to the 4th of July holiday week? I'd hope to see the international flags return, personally.


That was just for the 4th of July holiday. I think they do the same for Memorial Day.
 
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_AA_777_MAN wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
Question for the ORD AA regulars here.

I took an AA flight a few weeks ago through T3, and noticed the main hall had only American flags. It's been a very long time since I've flown through T3; is this a permanent change or was it simply due to the 4th of July holiday week? I'd hope to see the international flags return, personally.


That was just for the 4th of July holiday. I think they do the same for Memorial Day.


I’d really like to see them do this in T1 as well. T3 is always more “decorated” than T1. 4th of July, Christmas, etc. I’m assuming United is in charge of decorations though. String up some Christmas lights or something and add a few wreaths like AAL does in T3.
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_AA_777_MAN wrote:
ORDfan wrote:
Question for the ORD AA regulars here.

I took an AA flight a few weeks ago through T3, and noticed the main hall had only American flags. It's been a very long time since I've flown through T3; is this a permanent change or was it simply due to the 4th of July holiday week? I'd hope to see the international flags return, personally.


That was just for the 4th of July holiday. I think they do the same for Memorial Day.


Cool, glad to hear that. Thanks for clarifying.

ual763 wrote:
I’d really like to see them do this in T1 as well. T3 is always more “decorated” than T1. 4th of July, Christmas, etc. I’m assuming United is in charge of decorations though. String up some Christmas lights or something and add a few wreaths like AAL does in T3.


Have to agree with you there too, I've also thought that about T1, as far as the international flags go. I think it would be cool to see them there.

I didn't know AA puts out wreaths. I know T5 does, and that's a nice touch.

On a separate note:

Little feather for Midway's cap: according to cloud security company, Coronet: Midway has the country's safe airport wi-fi network. Something I problem haven't given enough thought to, but glad to hear. Wonder why ORD isn't right there with it though...?

http://fortune.com/2018/07/18/most-vuln ... san-diego/

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Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:52 am

For a little variety, here are a couple of items that are related under the subject "Chicago area airports other than O'Hare"...

Manistee Michigan (MBL or Manistee Co. Blacker Airport) is connected to Midway with a service flown under the brand of North Country Sky, a division of Contour Airlines; which is news to me anyway. The following announces an upgauge of the route to Dornier 328's:

https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/comm ... co-economy
According to the article yearly about 12,000 people use this commercial flight between MBL and MDW.

Here's a little information on Contour:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contour_Airlines

Lastly I'm passing on an article re Chicago Rockford International Airport's recent dramatic growth in cargo tonnage:
"The airport moved nearly 1.4 billion pounds of cargo last year, up about 50% from 923 million in 2016. This year it has already moved 996 million pounds of landed freight through June."
http://www.ttnews.com/articles/amazon-h ... o-carriers
 
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Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:30 am

ORDfan wrote:
I took an AA flight a few weeks ago through T3, and noticed the main hall had only American flags. It's been a very long time since I've flown through T3; is this a permanent change or was it simply due to the 4th of July holiday week? I'd hope to see the international flags return, personally.


Given the state of AA's international network at ORD these days, I'm surprised three-quarters of the flags on the main concourse don't have an asterisk next to them with the footnote "seasonal service only."
 
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Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:35 pm

yeogeo wrote:
For a little variety, here are a couple of items that are related under the subject "Chicago area airports other than O'Hare"...

Manistee Michigan (MBL or Manistee Co. Blacker Airport) is connected to Midway with a service flown under the brand of North Country Sky, a division of Contour Airlines; which is news to me anyway. The following announces an upgauge of the route to Dornier 328's:

https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/comm ... co-economy
According to the article yearly about 12,000 people use this commercial flight between MBL and MDW.

Here's a little information on Contour:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contour_Airlines

Lastly I'm passing on an article re Chicago Rockford International Airport's recent dramatic growth in cargo tonnage:
"The airport moved nearly 1.4 billion pounds of cargo last year, up about 50% from 923 million in 2016. This year it has already moved 996 million pounds of landed freight through June."
http://www.ttnews.com/articles/amazon-h ... o-carriers


Good stuff, appreciate those. I'm always curious to see what's going on at the other regional airports in the area, but of course, don't see them make the headlines as often as ORD and MDW. Good for RFD - they are, and have been for awhile now, on a roll with their cargo traffic. Also excited about those Dornier 328's to MDW - I hope to see them soon and often!

I'll piggyback and share this about GYY from the Trib. I've always maintained that GYY should clearly be Chicago's 3rd airport if/when it becomes critically-needed. Hopefully the new customs facility with give it some more credibility as they woo commercial traffic and eventually a new terminal. In the meantime, the Jet Center FBO was just remodeled/expanded and looks quite snazzy indeed; not to mention that the Coleman Aviation FBO was expanded just last year.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/p ... story.html

https://garyjetcenter.com/
 
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Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:46 pm

So it looks like the construction at MDW is going along pretty smoothly with the new food court opening this week. That's the one in the walled off space across from A5 and 7 that they built out when they did the A4 satellite a few years ago. The security pavilion looks like it's still on track to open late next year or early 2020. I've heard the inside portions of the bridge construction are getting underway and that means the elevators and escalators on the north side of the terminal are going to be closed. Not a huge inconvenience since the other ones are maybe ten feet away but I'm sure there will be complaints since that's WN's half and therefore gets most of the traffic. I haven't been through in a while so I'm interested to see how things look when I pick up my sister on Wednesday and then when I go to Florida in September.

Crain's posted an article about the new food court as well as more details about the future phases. Disappointingly, still no Starbucks (ORD is getting another one in the L stinger) but there is Einstein's bagels coming which makes me happy because they were my coffee of choice in college but I don't get them much anymore because they closed all their locations near me in the south suburbs. Also, Potbelly and McDonalds are still not coming back.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... food-court
 
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Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:36 pm

ORDfan wrote:
In the meantime, the Jet Center FBO was just remodeled/expanded and looks quite snazzy indeed; not to mention that the Coleman Aviation FBO was expanded just last year.

https://garyjetcenter.com/


The Jet Center is really nice... much nicer than any airline lounge, that is for sure!
 
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Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:01 pm

elbandgeek wrote:
So it looks like the construction at MDW is going along pretty smoothly with the new food court opening this week. That's the one in the walled off space across from A5 and 7 that they built out when they did the A4 satellite a few years ago. The security pavilion looks like it's still on track to open late next year or early 2020. I've heard the inside portions of the bridge construction are getting underway and that means the elevators and escalators on the north side of the terminal are going to be closed. Not a huge inconvenience since the other ones are maybe ten feet away but I'm sure there will be complaints since that's WN's half and therefore gets most of the traffic. I haven't been through in a while so I'm interested to see how things look when I pick up my sister on Wednesday and then when I go to Florida in September.

Crain's posted an article about the new food court as well as more details about the future phases. Disappointingly, still no Starbucks (ORD is getting another one in the L stinger) but there is Einstein's bagels coming which makes me happy because they were my coffee of choice in college but I don't get them much anymore because they closed all their locations near me in the south suburbs. Also, Potbelly and McDonalds are still not coming back.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... food-court


The food court area looks fantastic! I cannot say enough how nice it is to have a seating/table area with floor to ceiling windows and tarmac views. Looks very well-executed and came out better than I imagined. Cheers to the CDA for overseeing this and getting the project (partially) done relatively quickly.

I sincerely hope the ORD revamp takes its cues from this project. I'm still jealous (and dismayed) when I travel overseas how foreign airports seems to always have enjoyable dining/drinking options with airport views but this still escapes many US airports. T1 has that food court off B9 that comes to mind as a very flawed attempt, though T2/T3 does have few in the main hall, but nothing down the piers that is worthwhile.

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Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:52 pm

Looks great, congrats to MDW!!!
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:41 am

elbandgeek wrote:
So it looks like the construction at MDW is going along pretty smoothly with the new food court opening this week. That's the one in the walled off space across from A5 and 7 that they built out when they did the A4 satellite a few years ago. The security pavilion looks like it's still on track to open late next year or early 2020. I've heard the inside portions of the bridge construction are getting underway and that means the elevators and escalators on the north side of the terminal are going to be closed. Not a huge inconvenience since the other ones are maybe ten feet away but I'm sure there will be complaints since that's WN's half and therefore gets most of the traffic. I haven't been through in a while so I'm interested to see how things look when I pick up my sister on Wednesday and then when I go to Florida in September.

Crain's posted an article about the new food court as well as more details about the future phases. Disappointingly, still no Starbucks (ORD is getting another one in the L stinger) but there is Einstein's bagels coming which makes me happy because they were my coffee of choice in college but I don't get them much anymore because they closed all their locations near me in the south suburbs. Also, Potbelly and McDonalds are still not coming back.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... food-court

Thanks for posting the link! The food court looks great! Glad they finally did something to that area of concourse A. The article also mentions part of the central food court renovation will include a business lounge. This is the first article I have read that mentions a business lounge.
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:32 pm

DuPage county is pushing the City for the Western Terminal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... n-terminal
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:40 pm

After much disapproval from it's largest client. MDW moving side walks will no longer be completely removed from the concourses.

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Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:45 pm

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DuPage county is pushing the City for the Western Terminal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... n-terminal


It will come, they just got to be patient. I have a feeling phase 2 will be needed shortly after the first phase is completed.
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:22 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
ZBA2CGX wrote:
DuPage county is pushing the City for the Western Terminal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... n-terminal


It will come, they just got to be patient. I have a feeling phase 2 will be needed shortly after the first phase is completed.




I agree. It will come in a long way.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:53 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
It will come, they just got to be patient. I have a feeling phase 2 will be needed shortly after the first phase is completed.


ZBA2CGX wrote:
DuPage county is pushing the City for the Western Terminal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... n-terminal


So I think there's two separate issues here: one is Western Access and the other is the Western Terminal(s).

I'm not quite so sure why DuPage is focusing so much on the terminal itself. I think Western Access could and should be a much sooner priority. To a certain extent, as others have noted, the western satellite terminals will be built as needed. I don't think they need to be built as a precondition to Western Access, however.

Really, there's no reason for Western Access and the 10,000 car parking lot and shuttle buses (trains maybe??) for employees and construction workers NOT to be opened up to the general public. I get that contractors and employees will take priority, especially during the ORD 21 development, but if the infrastructure is getting built to accommodate them, it should be easy enough to accommodate originating passengers as well.

In any case, happy to see the dialogue going and believe it will also come to fruition...eventually. I-294 and 190 could definitely use the traffic relief ASAP
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:41 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
ZBA2CGX wrote:
DuPage county is pushing the City for the Western Terminal.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... n-terminal


It will come, they just got to be patient. I have a feeling phase 2 will be needed shortly after the first phase is completed.

I don’t believe the important part for the “ western terminal” is when phase 2 is necessary, it’s who will pay for it? I seriously doubt it will be UA or AA after phase 1 is built and if not them, then who? NK, F9, DL, B6? Maybe NK but I seriously doubt any other airline would be willing to anchor the terminal by themselves. Maybe all of them together could go into it. Has there been any conclusive evidence of a train to access the other terminals? I can’t remember now, but without that the airlines definitely won’t move over there. I still think the terminal is just a semi pipe dream to placate the people in the western suburbs, but I’ve certainly been wrong before.

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