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Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:41 am

All this in an attempt to save money, fuel and reduce CO2 emissions.

According to the CEO WheelTug, Isaiah Cox, the system will save up to a whopping US$1M per plane.


http://hibusiness.ca/2018/01/18/air-tra ... emissions/

I'm really curious to see the results this will produce.
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:42 am

"If you are afraid of flying, then this might increase your anxiety a bit"

What?
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:56 am

Video of what is proposed.

http://media.wheeltug.com/video/The_Whe ... s_720p.mp4

I see that the company has FAA :checkmark:

http://www.wheeltug.com/pr/pr_20170110.php

Time to buy some shares perhaps?
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:06 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
"If you are afraid of flying, then this might increase your anxiety a bit"

What?

Certainly a poorly written article by someone who clearly has minimal understanding of anything involving aircraft. It's basically a money blog.
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:16 pm

Good luck to them. It'll be neat to see but I find some of their beliefs a bit hard to believe. Like getting rid of any sort of pushback ground staff and the parallel terminal parking.
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:22 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
Video of what is proposed.

http://media.wheeltug.com/video/The_Whe ... s_720p.mp4

I see that the company has FAA :checkmark:

http://www.wheeltug.com/pr/pr_20170110.php

Time to buy some shares perhaps?


WheelTug is around since years. I could swear I heard about them the first time nearly 10 years ago. And so far they couldn't get many airlines to buy into their concept. I think there was a thread here many years ago when LH gave it a try.

The consensus here was that it only is something for big hub airports which suffer from very long taxi times and even longer wait times in departure queues, because engines need a warm-up time. You can't just start them and take-off AFAIK, but they need to run like 2 to 5 minutes before take-off, depending on the engine and airframe. This limits the use of WheelTug...
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:22 pm

Exactly and there was a thread about this a few years ago as VS were looking into something similar at LHR but nothing came of it which wasn't unexpected.
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:26 pm

CARST wrote:
readytotaxi wrote:
Video of what is proposed.

http://media.wheeltug.com/video/The_Whe ... s_720p.mp4

I see that the company has FAA :checkmark:

http://www.wheeltug.com/pr/pr_20170110.php

Time to buy some shares perhaps?


WheelTug is around since years. I could swear I heard about them the first time nearly 10 years ago. And so far they couldn't get many airlines to buy into their concept. I think there was a thread here many years ago when LH gave it a try.

The consensus here was that it only is something for big hub airports which suffer from very long taxi times and even longer wait times in departure queues, because engines need a warm-up time. You can't just start them and take-off AFAIK, but they need to run like 2 to 5 minutes before take-off, depending on the engine and airframe. This limits the use of WheelTug...



I believe that to be false, once an engine is on you can essentially take off after doing system checks. Same with turbine engines, there is no "warm up" necessary.
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:03 am

This would for sure save a lot of fuel and money for airlines if it was able to be used everywhere. Even saving a bit of fuel on the most efficient airplanes helps a lot.
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:51 am

Cunard wrote:
Exactly and there was a thread about this a few years ago as VS were looking into something similar at LHR but nothing came of it which wasn't unexpected.


Weren't they looking at doing it with the then more common tractors seen at airports, and when the world was hit a financial crisis?
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:15 am

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Cunard wrote:
Exactly and there was a thread about this a few years ago as VS were looking into something similar at LHR but nothing came of it which wasn't unexpected.


Weren't they looking at doing it with the then more common tractors seen at airports, and when the world was hit a financial crisis?

Back in 2007 :old:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2006/1 ... 51-virgin/
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:03 pm

i thought this thing weights about 300kg and need to burn more fuel in flight. what is a real advantage?
 
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:23 pm

Boeingphan wrote:
CARST wrote:
readytotaxi wrote:
Video of what is proposed.

http://media.wheeltug.com/video/The_Whe ... s_720p.mp4

I see that the company has FAA :checkmark:

http://www.wheeltug.com/pr/pr_20170110.php

Time to buy some shares perhaps?


WheelTug is around since years. I could swear I heard about them the first time nearly 10 years ago. And so far they couldn't get many airlines to buy into their concept. I think there was a thread here many years ago when LH gave it a try.

The consensus here was that it only is something for big hub airports which suffer from very long taxi times and even longer wait times in departure queues, because engines need a warm-up time. You can't just start them and take-off AFAIK, but they need to run like 2 to 5 minutes before take-off, depending on the engine and airframe. This limits the use of WheelTug...



I believe that to be false, once an engine is on you can essentially take off after doing system checks. Same with turbine engines, there is no "warm up" necessary.


Aircraft turbines do have warmup and cool down limits to avoid stressing the engine over the long term life of the engine.
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Re: Air Transat to test WheelTug system to taxi between runway and terminal

Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:52 pm

Just following up to see if there is any news to report on the WheelTug system. Is it still a work-in-progress, or has the idea been scrapped. I thought that testing would have begun on one of Air Transat's 737's but I have heard nothing. Any news would be great - thanks !

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