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TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:52 pm

Somehow, this went relatively unnoticed. This has to be amongst the stupidest things ever done at an airport. Idiots.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/0 ... throu.html
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:00 pm

Up there with careful how you open my case, there's a bomb in it hahahaha kind of thing some idiots have been known to say...
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 pm

What a stupid thing to do, and right across the river from NYC. If these individuals are TRULY are associated with any real media organization, they should all be fired. Media should know better. And in terms of the TSA, FBI, etc....throw the book at them. I wonder how many travelers may have missed their flights as a result of this stunt.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:05 pm

DL747400 wrote:
What a stupid thing to do, and right across the river from NYC. If these individuals are TRULY are associated with any real media organization, they should all be fired. Media should know better. And in terms of the TSA, FBI, etc....throw the book at them. I wonder how many travelers may have missed their flights as a result of this stunt.


If they were with a legit media organization, they were likely put on this assignment. They shouldn't be fired. The person that put them on the assignment should get the boot. Incredibly stupid stunt.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:09 pm

"CBS2, citing unnamed sources, reported that the group was associated with the CNBC show 'Staten Island Hustle.' The television station said that the production company affiliated with the show, Endemol Shine North America, released a statement late Thursday."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr- ... c820f52b49

Chances are the network put them on this assignment and if that is they case, the company should have to pay all fines and pay for their legal defense. And of those guys get off without jail time, they should quit their jobs and work for a company that isn't a complete joke and reckless like that.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:38 pm

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/9_arrested_at_newark_airport_were_part_of_reality.html

There are differing stories from TSA and the passengers. The passengers say the luggage was a prototype for vacuum compression luggage. TSA believes that the group were trying to get an IED through. TSA says they were filming the checkpoint to see if they could get through.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:09 pm

flyingcat wrote:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/9_arrested_at_newark_airport_were_part_of_reality.html

There are differing stories from TSA and the passengers. The passengers say the luggage was a prototype for vacuum compression luggage. TSA believes that the group were trying to get an IED through. TSA says they were filming the checkpoint to see if they could get through.


Hahahahaha vacuum compression luggage? Literally can't make this sh*t up. Tell that to the judge.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:26 pm

Well we could also say well done to the security services for finding this 'fake' bomb. We could also remind ourselves that it was indeed a 'fake bomb' and that these TV types however dumb it was, were in the end not terrorists and they never got the 'bomb' through. I work in television myself and yes I deal with idiots and dumb ideas on a daily basis.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:02 pm

Same thread with same exact title and same story was posted Friday and deleted by mods. Not sure why.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:09 pm

Well it can be said this group did succeed in getting a reaction from the TSA.... just not the one they were expecting. :roll:
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:33 pm

thought police! crime in progress!
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:37 pm

Filming the TSA is the more worrisome/serious crime versus the fake weapon.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:55 pm

Flighty wrote:
Filming the TSA is the more worrisome/serious crime versus the fake weapon.


WRONG. Filming TSA is a first amendment protected activity. Unless you are filming off limits areas/their screens, there is no law being broken. If you don't like it, stay at home with the blinds drawn.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:59 pm

enilria wrote:
Same thread with same exact title and same story was posted Friday and deleted by mods. Not sure why.

I have been noticing this happen on multiple threads. The Buzz thread yesterday was a recirculation thread too and the original was deleted
Instead of typing in "mods", consider using the report function.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:02 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Flighty wrote:
Filming the TSA is the more worrisome/serious crime versus the fake weapon.


WRONG. Filming TSA is a first amendment protected activity. Unless you are filming off limits areas/their screens, there is no law being broken. If you don't like it, stay at home with the blinds drawn.


Partially incorrect. While, public servants have no expectation of privacy on the tax payer's dollars, most airports are private property, not public. Airports are legally, publically accessible, but not actual public spaces owned by the state.

First amendment rights limit ones ability of what they may legally record on said private property. Also, it is pretty well established and posted that recording of TSA in the security checkpoints/passenger screening is quite off-limits.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:01 pm

Blimpie wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Flighty wrote:
Filming the TSA is the more worrisome/serious crime versus the fake weapon.


WRONG. Filming TSA is a first amendment protected activity. Unless you are filming off limits areas/their screens, there is no law being broken. If you don't like it, stay at home with the blinds drawn.


Partially incorrect. While, public servants have no expectation of privacy on the tax payer's dollars, most airports are private property, not public. Airports are legally, publically accessible, but not actual public spaces owned by the state.

First amendment rights limit ones ability of what they may legally record on said private property. Also, it is pretty well established and posted that recording of TSA in the security checkpoints/passenger screening is quite off-limits.


Pure ignorance. Airports are not private property (with some notable exceptions, including JFK's T4), they are public property, but are limited to people who have legitimate business there. Also the TSA themselves allow photography at their checkpoints as long as you aren't interfering with the screening process or filming their screens. Here is a link to where the TSA states this, I hope you do some research next time before posting false information. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-a ... checkpoint
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:25 pm

I guess they found out what their reaction would be......
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:41 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
Blimpie wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

WRONG. Filming TSA is a first amendment protected activity. Unless you are filming off limits areas/their screens, there is no law being broken. If you don't like it, stay at home with the blinds drawn.


Partially incorrect. While, public servants have no expectation of privacy on the tax payer's dollars, most airports are private property, not public. Airports are legally, publically accessible, but not actual public spaces owned by the state.

First amendment rights limit ones ability of what they may legally record on said private property. Also, it is pretty well established and posted that recording of TSA in the security checkpoints/passenger screening is quite off-limits.


Pure ignorance. Airports are not private property (with some notable exceptions, including JFK's T4), they are public property, but are limited to people who have legitimate business there. Also the TSA themselves allow photography at their checkpoints as long as you aren't interfering with the screening process or filming their screens. Here is a link to where the TSA states this, I hope you do some research next time before posting false information. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-a ... checkpoint


Without having ever been in the USA, I’m commenting!

In Ireland, there are signs preventing the use of cameras or recording devices pretty much the entire way from the initial boarding pass check point to the airside of the security checkpoint.

Also, we have private operators for airports in Europe, which is what I thought Blimpie was potentially referring to, in which case, recording on somebody’s property is entirely suspect, particularly where matters of security and data protection arise. I wanted to take photos of an airport for personal use (student of architecture), which is fully public in ownership and use by the way, and I had to seek permission to do so.

Wave whatever amendment you like, common sense suggests unless you’ve got a clear reason to do so, leave the photography and videotaping to the pros in the airport.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:01 am

mast2407 wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
Blimpie wrote:

Partially incorrect. While, public servants have no expectation of privacy on the tax payer's dollars, most airports are private property, not public. Airports are legally, publically accessible, but not actual public spaces owned by the state.

First amendment rights limit ones ability of what they may legally record on said private property. Also, it is pretty well established and posted that recording of TSA in the security checkpoints/passenger screening is quite off-limits.


Pure ignorance. Airports are not private property (with some notable exceptions, including JFK's T4), they are public property, but are limited to people who have legitimate business there. Also the TSA themselves allow photography at their checkpoints as long as you aren't interfering with the screening process or filming their screens. Here is a link to where the TSA states this, I hope you do some research next time before posting false information. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-a ... checkpoint


Without having ever been in the USA, I’m commenting!

In Ireland, there are signs preventing the use of cameras or recording devices pretty much the entire way from the initial boarding pass check point to the airside of the security checkpoint.

Also, we have private operators for airports in Europe, which is what I thought Blimpie was potentially referring to, in which case, recording on somebody’s property is entirely suspect, particularly where matters of security and data protection arise. I wanted to take photos of an airport for personal use (student of architecture), which is fully public in ownership and use by the way, and I had to seek permission to do so.

Wave whatever amendment you like, common sense suggests unless you’ve got a clear reason to do so, leave the photography and videotaping to the pros in the airport.


Common sense suggests you don't comment on other countries laws when you don't know what you're talking about. Europe isn't the USA buddy.
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:32 am

DL747400 wrote:
What a stupid thing to do, and right across the river from NYC. If these individuals are TRULY are associated with any real media organization, they should all be fired. Media should know better. And in terms of the TSA, FBI, etc....throw the book at them. I wonder how many travelers may have missed their flights as a result of this stunt.


Probably destined for youtube. Its not a "social experiment"...its "messing with law enforcement". Just don't do it.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:34 am

Super80Fan wrote:
mast2407 wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

Pure ignorance. Airports are not private property (with some notable exceptions, including JFK's T4), they are public property, but are limited to people who have legitimate business there. Also the TSA themselves allow photography at their checkpoints as long as you aren't interfering with the screening process or filming their screens. Here is a link to where the TSA states this, I hope you do some research next time before posting false information. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-a ... checkpoint


Without having ever been in the USA, I’m commenting!

In Ireland, there are signs preventing the use of cameras or recording devices pretty much the entire way from the initial boarding pass check point to the airside of the security checkpoint.

Also, we have private operators for airports in Europe, which is what I thought Blimpie was potentially referring to, in which case, recording on somebody’s property is entirely suspect, particularly where matters of security and data protection arise. I wanted to take photos of an airport for personal use (student of architecture), which is fully public in ownership and use by the way, and I had to seek permission to do so.

Wave whatever amendment you like, common sense suggests unless you’ve got a clear reason to do so, leave the photography and videotaping to the pros in the airport.


Common sense suggests you don't comment on other countries laws when you don't know what you're talking about. Europe isn't the USA buddy.


Thanks for the geography lesson.

By the way, you're precisely what is wrong with this website. People trying to have a discussion with you, openly, and all you do is shut them down with insults and telling them to back off in the process. I was simply informing you of how stuff works this side of the pond. And my common sense comment (Not yours), still stands:

mast2407 wrote:
Wave whatever amendment you like, common sense suggests unless you’ve got a clear reason to do so, leave the photography and videotaping to the pros in the airport.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:54 pm

flyingcat wrote:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/9_arrested_at_newark_airport_were_part_of_reality.html

There are differing stories from TSA and the passengers. The passengers say the luggage was a prototype for vacuum compression luggage. TSA believes that the group were trying to get an IED through. TSA says they were filming the checkpoint to see if they could get through.


Maybe I read the story differently, but I don't see the TSA reaction to be that the group was trying to get an IED through, the spokesman only stated that it "looked like" an IED. Anyway, not the kid of "stupid" I thought when I first read the thread title, but still stupid.

And as for the raging debate over filming in a public area: It's a complex issue here in Canada, AND in the US (where I travel frequently, calm down).

There are certainly many exemptions and qualifications to the rule that it's "ok to film in a 'public" place", but "not ok in 'private' place". There are many private places where the public has free access, where there is no expectation of privacy, and many public areas where there are legitimate (including security) reasons to restrict any such "right". Some examples would be courthouses, security checkpoints, military installations. While the rules vary from country to country, they are all based in common sense. I would think that any member of this forum who lives in a liberal democracy, with enshrined notions of individual rights and freedoms, would get that (for example, do you have to live in the US to think it's a good idea to take a video of the security gate at a US Air Force Strategic Air Command base??)

Heck, even the US which (justifiably) takes personal liberty very seriously has limits, as to "time place and manner" that they can be exercised. After all, it was a US Supreme Court Justice who wrote that freedom of speech doesn't include the right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater (paraphrasing). In fact, IIRC that sentence was written in a decision upholding wartime espionage laws, which restricted liberties.
 
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Re: TV crew arrested at EWR smuggling fake bomb to film TSA reaction

Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:32 pm

mast2407 wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
mast2407 wrote:

Without having ever been in the USA, I’m commenting!

In Ireland, there are signs preventing the use of cameras or recording devices pretty much the entire way from the initial boarding pass check point to the airside of the security checkpoint.

Also, we have private operators for airports in Europe, which is what I thought Blimpie was potentially referring to, in which case, recording on somebody’s property is entirely suspect, particularly where matters of security and data protection arise. I wanted to take photos of an airport for personal use (student of architecture), which is fully public in ownership and use by the way, and I had to seek permission to do so.

Wave whatever amendment you like, common sense suggests unless you’ve got a clear reason to do so, leave the photography and videotaping to the pros in the airport.


Common sense suggests you don't comment on other countries laws when you don't know what you're talking about. Europe isn't the USA buddy.


Thanks for the geography lesson.

By the way, you're precisely what is wrong with this website. People trying to have a discussion with you, openly, and all you do is shut them down with insults and telling them to back off in the process. I was simply informing you of how stuff works this side of the pond. And my common sense comment (Not yours), still stands:

mast2407 wrote:
Wave whatever amendment you like, common sense suggests unless you’ve got a clear reason to do so, leave the photography and videotaping to the pros in the airport.

"common sense" isnt really common, so you're just using a fallacy.
Also, as superfan says: If the 1st Ammendment allows recording (as long as its outside the "restricted" areas), then u should be fine. There's no "common sense" applied there.

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