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727LOVER
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:50 pm

F9LASDEN wrote:
(behind DEN’s ~55 daily flights



WOW, that's it??? Wonder what the peak # of flights they had @ DEN

Buffalomatt1027 wrote:
Buffalo -> Orlando route. Not sure if that is a weird route


Why would THAT be a weird route? Just about every mid-size city in the east has a flight to MCO. I mean, I'd call B6's BUF-LAX flight weirder...but only slightly. Neither are off the wall like CID-CAE or MEM-BOI
Speaking of BUF, I think Allegheny used to fly SDF-BUF



Does F9 have an online timetable like NK does?


RSW-ALB seems like a weird one, but then again, it's northeast to Florida
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:50 am

F9 has a published schedule? Their ops are so piss poor you'd think they don't have set departure and arrival times. They will end this year with one of the all-time worst ops performance in modern US Aviation history.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:26 am

Strange, every flight I’ve ever taken on Frontier has been on time or early. No doubt they have their issues (like all airlines) and service recovery can be difficult for smaller airlines; but, “one of the all-time worst ops performances in modern US Aviation history” seems a bit over the top. Also, I’m not sure how important timeliness and reliability are to their target customer. On the flights I’ve taken with them, my plans wouldn’t have been affected one bit by a late flight. I definitely like the odds with Frontier considering I pay about $30 to fly over 1000 miles. Beats driving for sure!
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:35 am

Big route announcement coming up, BWI and BDL are loaded
ORD & IND

AA & DL
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:40 am

Beginning in April. DEN-BDL will begin 3 X weekly. It is loaded into their web site now, but not yet bookable.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:49 am

F9 110 | DEN-BDL: 7:00 AM - 12:50 PM (A320)
F9 111 | BDL-DEN: 1:40 PM - 4:07 PM (A320)

Begins March 28th, 3x weekly (Sun, Tue, Thu)

F9 226 | DEN-BWI: 12:35 PM - 6:07 PM (A320)
F9 227 | BWI-DEN: 6:57 PM - 9:09 PM (A320)

Begins March 15th, 4x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat)
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:12 am

F9 could also add RIC-DEN nonstop service since RIC is located in the largest market in the U.S. that currently doesn't have nonstop service to DEN on a LCC. F9 and WN also both already have nonstop service out of DEN to a few East Coast markets that are smaller than RIC.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:05 pm

jplatts wrote:
F9 could also add RIC-DEN nonstop service since RIC is located in the largest market in the U.S. that currently doesn't have nonstop service to DEN on a LCC. F9 and WN also both already have nonstop service out of DEN to a few East Coast markets that are smaller than RIC.

I agree, there are several markets around the area that could use DEN service.
Why would F9 waste resources at BWI against NK, WN and UA on the same route.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:31 pm

jplatts wrote:
F9 could also add RIC-DEN nonstop service since RIC is located in the largest market in the U.S. that currently doesn't have nonstop service to DEN on a LCC. F9 and WN also both already have nonstop service out of DEN to a few East Coast markets that are smaller than RIC.


There's no one doing a DEN-ROC either. They're the last large Upstate NY metropolitan area that doesn't have DEN service yet.
 
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FA9295
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:14 pm

WeatherPilot wrote:
jplatts wrote:
F9 could also add RIC-DEN nonstop service since RIC is located in the largest market in the U.S. that currently doesn't have nonstop service to DEN on a LCC. F9 and WN also both already have nonstop service out of DEN to a few East Coast markets that are smaller than RIC.


There's no one doing a DEN-ROC either. They're the last large Upstate NY metropolitan area that doesn't have DEN service yet.

Does SYR have DEN service?
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:59 pm

FA9295 wrote:
Does SYR have DEN service?


Yes. F9 does a seasonal in the Summer. 4x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat)
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:45 pm

Buddys747 wrote:
Why would F9 waste resources at BWI against NK, WN and UA on the same route.


There are a few other destinations in addition to DEN that F9 could add nonstop service to out of BWI such as CVG, MIA, and SAT.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:55 pm

jjbiv wrote:
Strange, every flight I’ve ever taken on Frontier has been on time or early. No doubt they have their issues (like all airlines) and service recovery can be difficult for smaller airlines; but, “one of the all-time worst ops performances in modern US Aviation history” seems a bit over the top. Also, I’m not sure how important timeliness and reliability are to their target customer. On the flights I’ve taken with them, my plans wouldn’t have been affected one bit by a late flight. I definitely like the odds with Frontier considering I pay about $30 to fly over 1000 miles. Beats driving for sure!


Totally agree. I flew 12 flight segments with them this past year and only one was delayed, by about 45 minutes. Everything else was either on-time or early.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:01 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
Big route announcement coming up, BWI and BDL are loaded


We can expect more new and/or expanded route announcements after the holiday season. Frontier is to receive +/- 16 new additional aircraft in 2019.

Frontier 14
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:52 pm

Frontier14 wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
Big route announcement coming up, BWI and BDL are loaded


We can expect more new and/or expanded route announcements after the holiday season. Frontier is to receive +/- 16 new additional aircraft in 2019.

Frontier 14


In addition to the new aircraft coming online, other evidence that new routes may be announced includes schedule gaps that have appeared in several cities next summer (I’ve personally noticed gaps in SFO, DFW, and SBA, and others posters have mentioned seeing them in other cities).
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:02 pm

FA9295 wrote:
F9 110 | DEN-BDL: 7:00 AM - 12:50 PM (A320)
F9 111 | BDL-DEN: 1:40 PM - 4:07 PM (A320)

Begins March 28th, 3x weekly (Sun, Tue, Thu)

F9 226 | DEN-BWI: 12:35 PM - 6:07 PM (A320)
F9 227 | BWI-DEN: 6:57 PM - 9:09 PM (A320)

Begins March 15th, 4x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat)


DEN-FLL was also loaded

F9 222 DEN-FLL: 11:51pm-5:47am (+1) (A320)
F9 223 FLL-DEN: 7:30am-10:01am (A320)
Begins March 15, Daily

On April 30, schedule switches to:

F9 224 DEN-FLL: 7:30am-1:26pm (A320)
F9 225 FLL-DEN: 2:16pm-4:41pm (A320
Daily
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jplatts
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:21 pm

While F9 has re-entered or announced plans to re-enter many of the markets that it previously pulled out of, F9 hasn't yet announced any plans to reenter DAY.

It is hard to tell if F9 will actually re-enter DAY because on the one hand, F9 has been recently re-entering many markets that it previously pulled out of, but on the other hand, DAY is near CVG and CMH, both of which are already served by F9.

There would very likely be enough demand for F9 service out of CVG if F9 re-enters DAY since F9 currently carries over 1,000,000 passengers a day out of CVG each year whereas F9 would likely have a much smaller presence at DAY than it currently does at CVG if it re-enters DAY. F9 also already has nonstop service out of CVG to destinations that it would not serve nonstop from DAY if it re-enters DAY. DAY is probably also far enough from CVG to support F9 service out of both DAY and CVG since CVG is approximately 67 miles from Downtown Dayton and located south of the city of Cincinnati in Northern Kentucky.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:57 pm

jplatts wrote:
While F9 has re-entered or announced plans to re-enter many of the markets that it previously pulled out of, F9 hasn't yet announced any plans to reenter DAY.

It is hard to tell if F9 will actually re-enter DAY because on the one hand, F9 has been recently re-entering many markets that it previously pulled out of, but on the other hand, DAY is near CVG and CMH, both of which are already served by F9.

There would very likely be enough demand for F9 service out of CVG if F9 re-enters DAY since F9 currently carries over 1,000,000 passengers a day out of CVG each year whereas F9 would likely have a much smaller presence at DAY than it currently does at CVG if it re-enters DAY. F9 also already has nonstop service out of CVG to destinations that it would not serve nonstop from DAY if it re-enters DAY. DAY is probably also far enough from CVG to support F9 service out of both DAY and CVG since CVG is approximately 67 miles from Downtown Dayton and located south of the city of Cincinnati in Northern Kentucky.

F9 re-entered MDT even thought they have a significant operation at PHL. Maybe they wouldn’t go gangbusters in DAY but I could see DEN and MCO.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:45 am

FA9295 wrote:
F9 110 | DEN-BDL: 7:00 AM - 12:50 PM (A320)
F9 111 | BDL-DEN: 1:40 PM - 4:07 PM (A320)

Begins March 28th, 3x weekly (Sun, Tue, Thu)

F9 226 | DEN-BWI: 12:35 PM - 6:07 PM (A320)
F9 227 | BWI-DEN: 6:57 PM - 9:09 PM (A320)

Begins March 15th, 4x weekly (Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat)



It’s interesting that these times would allow for a connection to/from Wow Air at BWI. Maybe something is in the works.
 
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Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:17 am

Please continue in next year's thread.

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