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Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:52 pm

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When will delivery’s start getting the AK N-number? I assume it won’t be the A321Neos but will the A320Neos be delivered as VX or AK?


All remaining A321neo orders will keep their VA registrations. A decision is yet to be made on if AS will even take delivery of the 320N.
 
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Aircrafts from Toulouse don't have it, so it might be a German thing only.


Aircraft from Toulouse don't have it because "D" is a Greman registration. At Toulouse they have an "F" - as in France - registration.

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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:55 am

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jubguy3 wrote:
Does AS mix their two premerger fleets? For example, if I was on a route that was AS only premerger, would I be able to fly on an A32X? Or do they only use repainted aircraft on these routes? Do the A32X stay within VX routes?


As of right now, all previously AS routes are on Boeing, and all previously VX routes are on Airbus. Boeing/Airbus routes will be getting switched up starting in May I think, and flight attendant crews will be cross-training July-December of this year (this I know for sure)

I know for sure that beginning with the May 20 schedule, 2 of the SAN-SEA r/t will be flown on AirBi. However, I believe there are already some former-737 routes that are being flown with VX birds, or will be before May. (For instance, I know PDX-ORD will see a 'bus starting in March.)

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packmedic wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Does AS mix their two premerger fleets? For example, if I was on a route that was AS only premerger, would I be able to fly on an A32X? Or do they only use repainted aircraft on these routes? Do the A32X stay within VX routes?


As of right now, all previously AS routes are on Boeing, and all previously VX routes are on Airbus. Boeing/Airbus routes will be getting switched up starting in May I think, and flight attendant crews will be cross-training July-December of this year (this I know for sure)

I know for sure that beginning with the May 20 schedule, 2 of the SAN-SEA r/t will be flown on AirBi. However, I believe there are already some former-737 routes that are being flown with VX birds, or will be before May. (For instance, I know PDX-ORD will see a 'bus starting in March.)

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Looks like SFO-PHX is 737 already now that I just looked
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:18 am

SANFan wrote:
packmedic wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Does AS mix their two premerger fleets? For example, if I was on a route that was AS only premerger, would I be able to fly on an A32X? Or do they only use repainted aircraft on these routes? Do the A32X stay within VX routes?


As of right now, all previously AS routes are on Boeing, and all previously VX routes are on Airbus. Boeing/Airbus routes will be getting switched up starting in May I think, and flight attendant crews will be cross-training July-December of this year (this I know for sure)

I know for sure that beginning with the May 20 schedule, 2 of the SAN-SEA r/t will be flown on AirBi. However, I believe there are already some former-737 routes that are being flown with VX birds, or will be before May. (For instance, I know PDX-ORD will see a 'bus starting in March.)

bb


I'll have to check which ones they are again, but there have been some A319/20 lines that transferred over to Skywest E175s.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:45 am

packmedic wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Does AS mix their two premerger fleets? For example, if I was on a route that was AS only premerger, would I be able to fly on an A32X? Or do they only use repainted aircraft on these routes? Do the A32X stay within VX routes?


As of right now, all previously AS routes are on Boeing, and all previously VX routes are on Airbus. Boeing/Airbus routes will be getting switched up starting in May I think, and flight attendant crews will be cross-training July-December of this year (this I know for sure)


I saw earlier today that some VX routes (specifically DCA-DAL) are flying with AK Embraers
 
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SamTheGeek wrote:
packmedic wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Does AS mix their two premerger fleets? For example, if I was on a route that was AS only premerger, would I be able to fly on an A32X? Or do they only use repainted aircraft on these routes? Do the A32X stay within VX routes?


As of right now, all previously AS routes are on Boeing, and all previously VX routes are on Airbus. Boeing/Airbus routes will be getting switched up starting in May I think, and flight attendant crews will be cross-training July-December of this year (this I know for sure)


I saw earlier today that some VX routes (specifically DCA-DAL) are flying with AK Embraers



You are correct that Skywest took over the DAL-DCA flights, as well as DCA-LGA, and many other flights out of DAL
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:25 am

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How tough would it be to have an airline sport this kind of livery fleetwise? I understand that white is cheaper and better for performance, but some airlines have fully painted birds. Is the fading between colors much more expensive to apply?


$$$ Why? AS rebranding a couple of years ago was one of the best we've seen in awhile. I liked VX every time I flew them, same with AS. VX fans need to get over the fact they are gone.


Yeah, I like AS new livery much more than the previous one, that's why I'm not talking specifically about this airline, any company that would like to have their planes with something else than white + colored tail/aft body.

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AtomicGarden wrote:
How tough would it be to have an airline sport this kind of livery fleetwise? I understand that white is cheaper and better for performance, but some airlines have fully painted birds. Is the fading between colors much more expensive to apply?


AFAIK a 4-color livery is included with any new 737. Having a polished plane or more colors is extra, at least from Boeing.


So, this livery costs the same as a semi Eurowhite one? that's crazy, someone should adopt this kind of livery ASAP
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This bird should have unbeatable CASM. If this what’s rolling off of Airbus’ production lines now, the 7M10 is dead already.

I see you were being facetious but although the MAX 10 is hardly dead, it's an example of the wakeup call Boeing must have had when some of their big customers bought A321s because BCA didn't offer the right product. The MAX 10 is good but not quite good enough for some of Boeing's loyal customers so Airbus has made inroads with them. And the livery looks darn good, as well!
 
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:24 am

AtomicGarden wrote:


USAirKid wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
How tough would it be to have an airline sport this kind of livery fleetwise? I understand that white is cheaper and better for performance, but some airlines have fully painted birds. Is the fading between colors much more expensive to apply?


AFAIK a 4-color livery is included with any new 737. Having a polished plane or more colors is extra, at least from Boeing.


So, this livery costs the same as a semi Eurowhite one? that's crazy, someone should adopt this kind of livery ASAP


Umm you misunderstood me. The More to Love bright plane must be more than four colors. The standard AS livery is five plus white. So I'm guessing AS pays a smidge more to Boeing for a five color livery than a four color livery.
 
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:46 am

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aemoreira1981 wrote:
F9Animal wrote:
Really hopeful AS decides to keep at least the 321. It's a gorgeous plane, and looks amazing in Alaska colors! Would love to see Alaska upgrade Hawaii to the 321.


There is also the fact that it's so much better than any Boeing offering in terms of capabilities, including the ability to accept containerized cargo. That said, put this next to N493AS (the B739 in this livery).


Yet many airlines still Bulk load the A320neo family, containers aren’t much of an advantage.

As those that do ground ops and you’ll get a much different story about containers. Longhauler told us about this one once.
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:16 am

USAirKid wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:


USAirKid wrote:

AFAIK a 4-color livery is included with any new 737. Having a polished plane or more colors is extra, at least from Boeing.


So, this livery costs the same as a semi Eurowhite one? that's crazy, someone should adopt this kind of livery ASAP


Umm you misunderstood me. The More to Love bright plane must be more than four colors. The standard AS livery is five plus white. So I'm guessing AS pays a smidge more to Boeing for a five color livery than a four color livery.


I see what you mean now. Thank you.
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:23 am

There is much abuzz in the industry that AS has had a come to Jesus moment in regard to its original decision to install its vanilla domestic first class on cross country flights. Lots of chatter that AS is talking to seat manufacturers about a sub-fleet of cross country premium equipped first class A321's. Could it also be that AS has seen the numbers of the 321NEO vs original idea of running the 737-900ER dogs SFO-JFK and such?
 
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:43 am

n7371f wrote:
There is much abuzz in the industry that AS has had a come to Jesus moment in regard to its original decision to install its vanilla domestic first class on cross country flights. Lots of chatter that AS is talking to seat manufacturers about a sub-fleet of cross country premium equipped first class A321's. Could it also be that AS has seen the numbers of the 321NEO vs original idea of running the 737-900ER dogs SFO-JFK and such?


No, just an unverified rumor from one travel blogger known for publishing clickbait.
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:44 am

n7371f wrote:
There is much abuzz in the industry that AS has had a come to Jesus moment in regard to its original decision to install its vanilla domestic first class on cross country flights. Lots of chatter that AS is talking to seat manufacturers about a sub-fleet of cross country premium equipped first class A321's. Could it also be that AS has seen the numbers of the 321NEO vs original idea of running the 737-900ER dogs SFO-JFK and such?


Given the number of transcon flights AS operates, as a percentage of their total flying, I can't see AS offering a premium equipped FC on all routes. On certain premium routes, it would be an interesting proposition, given the direction of the competition. That said, I'd be surprised to see them change course at this point.
 
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:11 pm

AAvgeek744 wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
How tough would it be to have an airline sport this kind of livery fleetwise? I understand that white is cheaper and better for performance, but some airlines have fully painted birds. Is the fading between colors much more expensive to apply?


$$$ Why? AS rebranding a couple of years ago was one of the best we've seen in awhile. I liked VX every time I flew them, same with AS. VX fans need to get over the fact they are gone.



I can't! I don't get to fly much, but when I was doing a lot of stuff in SFO a few years ago I was on one of their first flights IAD-SFO in a 320 that had been been built only a few months earlier (I had to stop and look at the mfg. plate by the door lol). Back then everything was unheard of, the LED lighting, the crazy infotainment, ordering food by touch screen? Chat rooms everyone in the plane can join? It was just clean and refreshing, and that image will always stick in my head.

I even got to board first! The gate agent said "at this time, I'd like to begin begin the boarding process for all guests....wearing the color red" (I had a red fleece on haha)

In SFO they'd tell jokes on the gate PA system. Everyone was always happy. Just a great airline. :(

Sorry if I'm getting OT, but this livery is a great way to close things out for those of us who will truly miss VX.
 
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Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:58 pm

Nice livery but as someone else also said, I'm also looking more forward to seeing the first NEO's and sharklet A310's getting the standard AS livery. When is this planned?

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Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:32 am

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Nice livery but as someone else also said, I'm also looking more forward to seeing the first NEO's and sharklet A310's getting the standard AS livery. When is this planned?

A388


A310s??? Does AS have some time traveling international expansion ambitions?

The A320 CEOs have started getting repainted in the standard livery, N625VA is an example.
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:07 am

Yeah? Who's that?

EA CO AS wrote:
n7371f wrote:
There is much abuzz in the industry that AS has had a come to Jesus moment in regard to its original decision to install its vanilla domestic first class on cross country flights. Lots of chatter that AS is talking to seat manufacturers about a sub-fleet of cross country premium equipped first class A321's. Could it also be that AS has seen the numbers of the 321NEO vs original idea of running the 737-900ER dogs SFO-JFK and such?


No, just an unverified rumor from one travel blogger known for publishing clickbait.
 
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:59 am

n7371f wrote:
Yeah? Who's that?

EA CO AS wrote:
n7371f wrote:
There is much abuzz in the industry that AS has had a come to Jesus moment in regard to its original decision to install its vanilla domestic first class on cross country flights. Lots of chatter that AS is talking to seat manufacturers about a sub-fleet of cross country premium equipped first class A321's. Could it also be that AS has seen the numbers of the 321NEO vs original idea of running the 737-900ER dogs SFO-JFK and such?


No, just an unverified rumor from one travel blogger known for publishing clickbait.


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From the main page today:
 
 
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:57 pm

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It looks great!
Chester looks really good on airbus, but I would have to say he looks just a tad bit better on the 320. The green/blue swooshes on the tail end make the aircraft look longer than it actually is, very interesting.
 
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:53 pm

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I agree! And nice to see it in full AS livery. I think it’s time for the A v B healing to begin. The more AS Airbii in house colors, the better.
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:56 am

Indianapolis.
 
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:08 am

Well, I like it, but Chester looks RIDICULOUS with a German Flag stuck into his parka!
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:26 am

AAvgeek744 wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
How tough would it be to have an airline sport this kind of livery fleetwise? I understand that white is cheaper and better for performance, but some airlines have fully painted birds. Is the fading between colors much more expensive to apply?


$$$ Why? AS rebranding a couple of years ago was one of the best we've seen in awhile. I liked VX every time I flew them, same with AS. VX fans need to get over the fact they are gone.


I have to say, riding coach on the AS 737 to Hawaii was very uncomfortable after 3 hours. I have flown on the 320 and 321 for flights as long as that, and I was more comfortable. I really hope AS keeps the 321 at least. It would be awesome if they threw them on some of the Hawaii routes.
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:28 am

F9Animal wrote:
AAvgeek744 wrote:
AtomicGarden wrote:
How tough would it be to have an airline sport this kind of livery fleetwise? I understand that white is cheaper and better for performance, but some airlines have fully painted birds. Is the fading between colors much more expensive to apply?


$$$ Why? AS rebranding a couple of years ago was one of the best we've seen in awhile. I liked VX every time I flew them, same with AS. VX fans need to get over the fact they are gone.


I have to say, riding coach on the AS 737 to Hawaii was very uncomfortable after 3 hours. I have flown on the 320 and 321 for flights as long as that, and I was more comfortable. I really hope AS keeps the 321 at least. It would be awesome if they threw them on some of the Hawaii routes.


Edit!! I didn't see the 2nd page!!! I think the 321 in Alaska paint looks great! So refreshing. Absolutely gorgeous.
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You can hardly tell with the new airbus winglets.
 
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:38 am

452QX wrote:
QXAS wrote:
When will delivery’s start getting the AK N-number? I assume it won’t be the A321Neos but will the A320Neos be delivered as VX or AK?


All remaining A321neo orders will keep their VA registrations. A decision is yet to be made on if AS will even take delivery of the 320N.



Actually you are not correct on this, AS will take deliveries of the 320N no matter what cause of the contract already in place, however it is a possibility that the order can be upgraded to the 321N.
 
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Have to agree with this, Hawaiian is the best but this is a close second.
 
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:43 am

So this one with VX or AS interior. ?

Red?
 
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So this one with VX or AS interior. ?

Red?



I believe so, they will be gutted in the next two years to match the 737 interior.
 
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AA AC AS BA BD BF BN BR BY B6 CO CP(2) DG DL EA EI EN FL FT F9 HA HP ICX JI JQ J7 KE KS LH MC NW OC OO OZ(1) OZ(2) PA PI PT QF QQ RM RO RV(1) RV(2) RW SK SM SQ S4 TI TS TW UA UK US UZ VS VX WA WN WS W7 XV YV YX(2) ZZ 9K
 
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:01 am

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Looks amazing. Can’t wait to see this babe in HNL. As for HA, the new livery still hasn’t grown on me. Just a little too busy for my liking, especially on the shorter narrowbodies. The older livery would have looked better on the 321N IMO.

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Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:12 pm

Sounds like they have signed long term contracts with the VX interior mod companies. Very complex interiors that have so many unique aspects done by third parties.
 
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:28 pm

WOW that A321 NEO in the standard livery looks even better than I imagined it would! I can’t wait to see this beauty in person! Same goes for the More to Love A321’s!
 
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:41 pm

It looks great with the Alaska livery, but the best looking A321neos are still the ones with Virgin written on the tails, with HA being a close second to me.
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