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OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:04 pm

FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

WHERE ARE SEATS SHOWN?
They aren't. This only shows departures.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

*3M HSV-MCO JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0

*4O SFO-CUN MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
*4O SFO-GDL MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.5

7H ATT-BET MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
7H ATT-NUP MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H BET-CYF MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 1.8>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 1.9>1.0 JUL 1.8>1.0 AUG 1.9>1.0 SEP 1.8>1.0 OCT 1.9>1.0
7H BET-GNU MAR 2>1.1 APR 2>1.2 MAY 1.5>0.6 JUN 0.9>0 JUL 0.8>0 AUG 0.9>0 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0
7H BET-KKH MAR 2>3 APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3 SEP 2>3 OCT 2>3
7H BET-KPN MAR 0.9>1.7 APR 0.8>1.7 MAY 0.9>1.7 JUN 0.9>1.7 JUL 0.8>1.7 AUG 0.9>1.7 SEP 0.8>1.7 OCT 0.9>1.7
7H BET-KUK MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
7H BET-KWK MAR 0.9>0 APR 0.8>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.9>0 JUL 0.8>0 AUG 0.9>0 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0
7H BET-KWN MAR 0.7>1.6 APR 0.7>1.5 MAY 1.2>3 JUN 1.6>3 JUL 1.5>3 AUG 1.6>3 SEP 1.5>3 OCT 1.6>3
7H BET-MYU MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H BET-NME MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
7H BET-OOK MAR 2>1.1 APR 2>1.2 MAY 2>1.1 JUN 2>1.1 JUL 2>1.2 AUG 2>1.1 SEP 2>1.2 OCT 2>1.1
7H BET-PKA MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H BET-PTU MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H BET-WNA MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 1.5>1.0
7H BET-WTL MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
7H BET-WWT MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H CYF-KPN MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 1.8>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 1.9>1.0 JUL 1.8>1.0 AUG 1.9>1.0 SEP 1.8>1.0 OCT 1.9>1.0
7H EEK-KWN MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
7H EEK-WTL MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H GNU-PTU MAR 2>1.1 APR 2>1.2 MAY 1.5>0.6 JUN 0.9>0 JUL 0.8>0 AUG 0.9>0 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0
7H KKH-KWK MAR 2>3 APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3 SEP 2>3 OCT 2>3
7H KUK-NUP MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
7H MYU-OOK MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H NME-TNK MAR 2>1.1 APR 2>1.2 MAY 2>1.1 JUN 2>1.1 JUL 2>1.2 AUG 2>1.1 SEP 2>1.2 OCT 2>1.1
7H PKA-WNA MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
7H TNK-WWT MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2

9K ACK-BOS APR 8>10

*AA BGR-LGA JUN 0.3>1.1 JUL 0.3>1.3 AUG 0.3>1.3
AA DFW-BOI JUN 1.0>1.8 JUL 1.0>2
AA DFW-CHS JUL 2>3
AA DFW-CLE JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5
AA DFW-GEG JUL 1.0>1.7
AA DFW-ONT JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6
AA DFW-PDX JUL 4>5
AA DFW-PIT JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5
AA DFW-RDU JUL 5>6
AA DFW-RNO JUL 2>3
AA DFW-SAV JUL 2>3
AA DFW-SLC JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
AA JFK-PAP JUN 1.8>1.7 JUL 2>1.9

AG MIA-AUA MAR 1.0>0.8 APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6

AI SFO-DEL APR 0.9>1.3 MAY 0.8>1.3 JUN 0.9>1.3 JUL 0.8>1.3 AUG 0.9>1.3 SEP 0.9>1.3 OCT 0.8>1.2

*AM DTW-BJX MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.5
AM LAS-MEX JUN 1.9>2
AM LAS-MTY SEP 0.4>0.6 OCT 0.4>0.5
AM LAX-BJX MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.6 AUG 1.0>0.5 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.5
AM ORD-GDL AUG 1.6>1.9
AM SJC-GDL SEP 0.9>1.0 OCT 0.8>1.0

*AS FLL-SFO JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS LAX-MCO JUL 1.0>0.2 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
I guess they must return these MEX slots?
*AS LAX-MEX MAY 2>1.6 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0
AS LAX-PVR AUG 1.5>1.4
*AS MSP-SFO MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS SAN-MEX MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
AS SEA-BNA JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.8
AS SEA-BUR JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
AS SEA-ORD JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5

AV DFW-SAL APR 0.7>0.6 MAY 0.7>0.5
AV IAH-SAL APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7
AV JFK-SAP APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0
AV MIA-GUA APR 1.0>0.3 MAY 1.0>0.3
AV ORD-SAL APR 0.7>0.4 MAY 0.7>0.5

B6 YOY Compare
B6 ANC-PDX SEP 0.3>0.1
B6 ANC-SEA SEP 0.4>0.1
B6 BOS-AUA AUG 1.1>1.3
B6 BOS-DCA AUG 11>10
B6 BOS-EWR AUG 5>6
B6 BOS-JAX JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3 SEP 2>3
B6 BOS-LAS SEP 4>3
B6 BOS-LAX JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4
B6 BOS-MSP JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3
B6 BOS-MVY SEP 0.3>0.1
B6 BOS-OAK SEP 0.3>0.1
B6 BOS-ORD JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 3>5
B6 BOS-PBI JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
B6 BOS-PHL AUG 5>6
B6 BOS-PIT JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6 SEP 5>6
B6 BOS-PUJ SEP 0.4>0.5
B6 BOS-RDU SEP 5>6
B6 BOS-SAN JUL 2>3 AUG 2.0>3
B6 BOS-SDQ JUL 1.3>1.6 AUG 1.3>1.6
B6 BOS-SFO JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5
B6 BOS-SJU JUL 4>2 AUG 4>2 SEP 2>1.8
B6 BOS-SRQ SEP 0.1>0.9
B6 BOS-STI JUL 1.0>1.4 AUG 1.0>1.4
B6 BOS-SYR JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 EWR-SDQ JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 FLL-ATL JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2
B6 FLL-AUA SEP 0.8>1.0
B6 FLL-BGI JUL 0.5>1.0 AUG 0.7>1.0 SEP 0.4>1.0
B6 FLL-BOS JUL 6>5 AUG 6>5
B6 FLL-BQN AUG 0.6>0.8
B6 FLL-CUN JUL 1.2>2 AUG 1.1>2
B6 FLL-DCA JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5
B6 FLL-KIN JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3 SEP 2>3
B6 FLL-MBJ SEP 1.1>2
B6 FLL-MEX JUL 1.0>2 AUG 0.8>2 SEP 1.8>2
B6 FLL-POS JUL 0.6>1.0 AUG 0.5>1.0
B6 FLL-SDQ AUG 1.7>2 SEP 1.0>1.1
B6 FLL-SJU SEP 4>5
B6 FLL-SLC JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 FLL-STI JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 JFK-ACK AUG 4>5
B6 JFK-ANU JUL 0.4>0.6 AUG 0.4>0.6
B6 JFK-ATL JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2
B6 JFK-AUA JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.6>3 SEP 1.4>1.9
B6 JFK-BGI SEP 1.8>2.0
B6 JFK-BOS JUL 8>6 AUG 8>6 SEP 9>6
B6 JFK-BUF JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
B6 JFK-CTG JUL 0.4>0.6 AUG 0.4>0.6 SEP 0.3>0.4
B6 JFK-GCM JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7
B6 JFK-HYA SEP 0.5>0.1
B6 JFK-LAX JUL 10>11
B6 JFK-MBJ SEP 1.2>1.6
B6 JFK-ORH JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 JFK-PAP JUL 3>2 SEP 1.4>1.1
B6 JFK-PLS JUL 1.3>1.0 AUG 1.3>1.0 SEP 0.7>1.0
B6 JFK-POP AUG 1.8>2
B6 JFK-POS JUL 1.6>2 SEP 1.0>1.1
B6 JFK-RDU JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
B6 JFK-SDQ JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
B6 JFK-SEA SEP 1.1>1.8
B6 JFK-SJU JUL 6>5 AUG 6>5
B6 JFK-SXM JUL 1.2>1.0 AUG 1.1>1.0 SEP 0.8>1.0
B6 JFK-SYR JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2
B6 LGB-LAS JUL 7>5 AUG 7>5 SEP 7>5
B6 MCO-ATL JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 MCO-BOS JUL 8>6 AUG 8>6 SEP 8>6
B6 MCO-CUN JUL 2>1.1 AUG 1.7>1.1
B6 MCO-EWR JUL 8>7 AUG 8>7
B6 MCO-JFK SEP 7>8
B6 MCO-MEX JUL 1.0>2 AUG 0.8>2 SEP 1.8>2
B6 MCO-PAP JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
B6 MCO-SJU AUG 5>6
B6 TPA-SJU JUL 2>1.0 AUG 1.6>1.0

BW FLL-POS APR 0.9>0.7 MAY 0.7>0.5

DI FLL-LGW APR 0.3>0.4 MAY 0.3>0.4 JUN 0.3>0.4 JUL 0.3>0.4 AUG 0.3>0.5 SEP 0.3>0.4
DI JFK-LGW MAR 0.2>0.4 APR 0.9>1.9 OCT 1.9>1.6
DI LAX-LGW APR 1.3>1.6 MAY 1.3>1.5 JUN 1.3>1.6 JUL 1.3>1.4 AUG 1.3>1.5 SEP 1.3>1.4
DI OAK-LGW APR 0.7>0.9 MAY 0.7>0.9 JUN 0.7>0.8 JUL 0.7>0.9 AUG 0.7>0.9 SEP 0.7>0.8

DL ATL-BZE JUL 1.1>1.3 SEP 1.0>0.9
DL ATL-LIR JUL 1.1>1.3
DL ATL-MSY JUN 12>11 JUL 12>11
DL BIL-MSP JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
DL CVG-XNA JUL 0.7>0.5
DL DTW-MLI SEP 3>1.8
DL JFK-SDQ JUL 3>4
DL JFK-SJU JUL 3>4
DL SLC-CUN OCT 0.3>0.4

ET EWR-LFW APR 0.7>0.6

FI MCO-KEF OCT 0.7>1.0

G4 ABE-FLL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 ABE-PGD SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 ABE-PIE SEP 0.5>0.3
G4 ATW-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 ATW-PIE SEP 0.3>0.2
G4 AUS-CLE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AUS-IND AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AUS-LCK AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AUS-MEM AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AUS-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AUS-PIT AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AUS-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 AVL-SFB SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 AZA-BIS MAR 0>0.7
G4 AZA-CID MAR 0>1.0
G4 AZA-DSM MAR 0>0.7
G4 AZA-FAR MAR 0>1.1
G4 AZA-FSD MAR 0>1.2 MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7
G4 AZA-MOT MAR 0>0.7
G4 AZA-PVU MAR 0>1.3 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.1 JUN 0>1.3 JUL 0>1.3 AUG 0>1.3 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.3
G4 AZA-RFD MAR 0>0.7
G4 BIL-IWA MAR 0.6>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.5>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 BIS-IWA MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.5>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.5>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.5>0
G4 BIS-LAS JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 BIS-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BLI-IWA MAR 0.6>0 APR 0.5>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.5>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 BLI-LAX SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 BLI-PSP JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 BLV-FLL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BLV-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 BLV-JAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BLV-PGD SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 BLV-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3
G4 BOI-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 BWI-CVG AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 BWI-SAV SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 BZN-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 CID-IWA MAR 1.0>0 APR 0.5>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.5>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 CID-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CKB-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CLE-FLL AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CLE-JAX AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CLE-MYR AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CVG-EWR SEP 0.7>0.4 OCT 0.7>0.5
G4 CVG-FLL SEP 1.0>0.6
G4 CVG-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 CVG-MSY SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 CVG-MYR SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 CVG-PIE SEP 1.2>0.7
G4 CVG-PVD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 CVG-RDU AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 DAY-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 DSM-IWA MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.5>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.5>0
G4 DSM-LAS AUG 0.7>0.5 SEP 0.7>0.3 OCT 0.7>0.5
G4 DSM-SFB SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 ELP-SAN AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 EUG-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 EWR-SAV SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 FAR-IWA MAR 1.1>0 APR 0.7>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.5>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 FAR-LAS MAY 0.5>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 FLL-IND AUG 0.7>0.5 SEP 0.7>0.5
G4 FLL-LEX SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 FLL-MKE MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-SDF SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 FNT-PGD JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 FSD-IWA MAR 1.2>0 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.6>0 JUN 0.6>0 JUL 0.6>0 AUG 0.5>0 SEP 0.6>0 OCT 0.5>0
G4 FSD-LAS SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 FSD-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FSD-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 FWA-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.2>0 MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0 AUG 0.1>0 SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0
G4 FWA-PIE AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 GFK-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 GRI-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 GRR-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.5>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 GRR-PGD JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 GRR-PIE SEP 0.7>0.4
G4 GRR-SFB SEP 0.9>0.5
G4 GTF-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 HTS-SFB SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 IAG-PGD MAY 0.5>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 ICT-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 IDA-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 IND-IWA MAR 0.3>0
G4 IND-MSY MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 IND-MYR SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 IND-PGD MAY 0.8>0.6 AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.9>0.4
G4 IND-SAV AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 IND-SFB SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 IND-SRQ AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 IND-VPS AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 JAX-LCK AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-GPI MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 LAS-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.5>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 LAS-MFE SEP 0.9>0.6
G4 LAS-MOT SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-SAT SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 LAS-TUL SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 LAX-MFR SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 LCK-MSY MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LCK-PGD SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 LCK-PIE AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 LCK-SFB AUG 0.6>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.4
G4 LEX-PGD SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 LEX-SAV AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 LEX-SFB AUG 0.9>0.6 SEP 0.9>0.4
G4 LIT-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MCI-IWA MAR 0.3>0
G4 MCI-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MCI-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MDT-PGD SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 MDT-SFB SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.4
G4 MEM-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0.1
G4 MKE-IWA MAR 0.3>0
G4 MKE-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MKE-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MLI-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 MLI-PGD AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MLI-PIE SEP 0.3>0.2
G4 MLI-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MOT-IWA MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 MSO-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 MSY-PIE MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 MSY-PIT AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MSY-RDU AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 MSY-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 MSY-USA AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 OAK-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.5>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 OGD-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 OGS-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 OGS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 OKC-VPS JUL 0>0.7
G4 OMA-IWA MAR 0.3>0
G4 OMA-PIE AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 OMA-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 ORF-PIE SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PBG-PIE SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PBG-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 PGD-PIT SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 PGD-PSM SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PGD-PVD SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PGD-RDU JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.0 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 PGD-ROC SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PGD-SBN AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 PGD-SDF AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 PIA-IWA MAR 0.6>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.5>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
G4 PIA-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-IWA MAR 0.3>0
G4 PIE-PIT SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 PIE-PVD SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PIE-RDU SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 PIE-SDF MAY 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 PIE-SYR SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 PSC-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 PVU-IWA MAR 1.3>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
G4 RAP-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 RDU-SFB SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 RFD-IWA MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 ROC-SFB SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 SAT-SFB AUG 0.3>0.1
G4 SBN-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 SCK-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 SDF-IWA MAR 0.3>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 SDF-SFB JUN 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
G4 SFB-SJU MAY 0.3>0.4 JUN 0.3>0.6 JUL 0.3>0.5 AUG 0.3>0.4 OCT 0.3>0.6
G4 SFB-SWF SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 SFB-TOL SEP 0.3>0.0
G4 SFB-TUL SEP 0.4>0.3
G4 SFB-TYS SEP 1.0>0.7
G4 SGF-IWA MAR 0.4>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
G4 STC-IWA MAR 0.6>0 APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0

HU BOS-PEK OCT 0.9>1.0
HU JFK-CTU JUN 0.3>0.4 JUL 0.3>0.4 AUG 0.3>0.5 SEP 0.3>0.4 OCT 0.3>0.4
HU LAX-CTU JUN 0.3>0.4 JUL 0.3>0.4 AUG 0.3>0.4 SEP 0.3>0.4 OCT 0.3>0.4
HU SEA-PEK OCT 0.9>1.0

LF BNA-TUP APR 0>5

MU ORD-PVG APR 0.4>0.7 MAY 0.4>0.7 JUN 0.4>0.7 JUL 0.4>0.7 AUG 0.5>0.7 SEP 0.4>0.7 OCT 0.5>0.7

NK FLL-SJU APR 1.0>1.2 MAY 1.0>1.3 JUN 1.0>1.3 JUL 1.0>1.3 AUG 1.0>1.3 SEP 1.0>1.3
*NK MSP-ORD APR 1.6>0.4 MAY 2>0 JUN 2>0 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.8>0

SY DFW-PUJ JUN 0.8>1.0 JUL 0.8>1.0

UA EWR-AUA JUN 1.7>1.3
UA EWR-MBJ JUN 1.2>1.1
UA EWR-RAP JUN 0.1>0.0
UA EWR-STT JUN 0.2>0.0
UA IAD-CUN JUN 1.9>1.8
UA IAD-FAY APR 1.9>3 MAY 1.9>3
UA IAD-GSO JUN 1.4>3 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>3 SEP 1.0>3 OCT 1.0>3
UA IAD-GSP JUN 1.4>4 JUL 1.0>4 AUG 1.0>4 SEP 1.0>4 OCT 1.0>4
UA IAD-PIT MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
UA IAH-AUA JUN 0.4>0.3
UA IAH-RNO JUN 0.2>0.0
UA IAH-SJU JUN 3>2
UA LAX-HNL SEP 5>4
UA ORD-FCO OCT 0.1>0.8
UA ORD-IND JUL 8>9
UA ORD-LNK JUN 3>4 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.5>4 SEP 1.0>4 OCT 1.0>4
UA ORD-PIA JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 2>4 OCT 2>4
UA ORD-XNA JUN 3>4 JUL 1.7>4 AUG 1.7>4 SEP 1.7>4 OCT 1.7>4

WAA ORT-WVB APR 0>2 MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2 SEP 0>2 OCT 0>2

WN YOY Compare
WN ALB-TPA SEP 1.0>0.4
WN ATL-AUS JUL 2>3
WN ATL-BNA AUG 0>4 SEP 0>5
WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2
WN ATL-MCI JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
WN ATL-MKE JUL 3>1.9 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8
WN ATL-PUJ AUG 1.1>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.7
WN ATL-RSW SEP 1.8>1.0
WN AUS-CUN JUL 1.0>1.1 AUG 0.5>0.2
WN AUS-PDX AUG 0.4>0.2
WN AUS-PNS AUG 0.1>0.0
WN AUS-SAN JUL 2>3 AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.8>3
WN AUS-SFO JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN AUS-SMF JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN BDL-STL AUG 0>0.8 SEP 0>1.0
WN BNA-CUN JUL 0>0.1
WN BNA-LGA JUL 4>3
WN BNA-MKE JUL 0>2 AUG 0>1.9 SEP 0>1.8
WN BNA-PHL AUG 2>3 SEP 1.9>3
WN BNA-SAN SEP 1.0>1.9
WN BNA-SAT JUL 3>1.9
WN BOI-SJC JUL 0.2>1.0 AUG 0.1>1.0 SEP 0.1>1.0
WN BOS-CMH SEP 1.8>1.2
WN BOS-IND SEP 1.8>1.2
WN BUR-SJC JUL 8>9
WN BUR-SLC JUL 1.7>1.0 AUG 1.8>0.9 SEP 1.8>0.8
WN BUR-SMF JUL 7>8 AUG 8>9 SEP 7>8
WN BWI-AUA AUG 0.6>0.3
WN BWI-BOS JUL 10>9
WN BWI-CUN AUG 1.6>1.3
WN BWI-DTW JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3 SEP 4>3
WN BWI-ECP AUG 0.5>0.2
WN BWI-MBJ AUG 1.6>3
WN BWI-MHT JUL 9>7 AUG 8>6 SEP 8>6
WN BWI-PDX AUG 0.5>0.2
WN BWI-PUJ AUG 1.6>1.2
WN BWI-PVD AUG 9>8 SEP 9>8
WN BWI-SEA AUG 1.4>1.0
WN BWI-SJO JUL 1.0>0.1 AUG 0.5>0.0
WN BWI-SJU AUG 1.6>1.3
WN CHS-STL AUG 0.6>0.2
WN CLE-MKE JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.8 SEP 0>1.7
WN CMH-CUN JUL 0>0.1
WN DAL-DCA JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4
WN DAL-MEM JUL 2>1.3 AUG 2>1.2 SEP 1.9>1.2
WN DAL-MKE JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0
WN DAL-OKC AUG 4>3 SEP 4>3
WN DAL-RNO AUG 0.2>0.1
WN DAL-SAN JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4
WN DAL-SJC JUL 1.0>1.8 AUG 1.0>1.9 SEP 1.0>1.8
WN DCA-STL JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4
WN DEN-BDL AUG 1.5>1.1
WN DEN-BZE JUL 0.3>0.1
WN DEN-CHS AUG 0.6>0.4
WN DEN-CMH AUG 1.9>1.2
WN DEN-CUN JUL 1.2>1.3
WN DEN-CVG AUG 0>0.8 SEP 0>1.0
WN DEN-EWR AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8
WN DEN-LGA JUL 2>3
WN DEN-MCI SEP 6>7
WN DEN-PIT AUG 1.9>1.1
WN DEN-PVR AUG 0.5>0.3
WN DEN-SFO SEP 5>4
WN DEN-SJD AUG 0.6>0.3
WN DEN-TPA SEP 3>2
WN DEN-TUS SEP 3>2.0
WN ECP-STL AUG 0.5>0.3
*WN EWR-OAK SEP 0>1.0
*WN EWR-SAN SEP 0>1.0
WN FLL-ALB AUG 0.5>0.2
WN FLL-AUA JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN FLL-AUS AUG 2>1.4 SEP 1.9>1.3
WN FLL-BWI AUG 10>9
WN FLL-BZE AUG 1.0>0.3 SEP 1.0>0.2
WN FLL-CMH AUG 0.5>0.3
WN FLL-CUN JUL 1.0>3 AUG 1.0>3 SEP 1.0>3
WN FLL-GCM SEP 1.0>0.7
WN FLL-JAX JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3
WN FLL-MBJ JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2
WN FLL-NAS JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2
WN FLL-PLS JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>0.2
WN FLL-PUJ JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN FLL-SAT JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN FLL-SJO JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN FLL-SJU SEP 1.0>2
WN FLL-STL JUL 1.3>3 AUG 1.2>1.9
WN GEG-SJC JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN GEG-SMF JUL 0>1.0
WN HOU-ATL JUL 5>6
WN HOU-CUN JUL 2>3
WN HOU-GCM JUL 0>0.1
WN HOU-LGA JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
WN HOU-LIR SEP 1.0>0.2
WN HOU-MBJ JUL 1.0>1.2
WN HOU-MEX JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4 SEP 3>4
WN HOU-MKE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN HOU-PDX AUG 0.5>0.2
WN HOU-PVR JUL 1.2>1.3
WN HOU-SEA AUG 0.5>0.2
WN HOU-SJC JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN HOU-SJD JUL 1.2>1.3
WN HOU-SJU JUL 1.2>1.3 AUG 0.6>0.4
WN IND-CUN JUL 0>0.1
WN IND-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN IND-SAN AUG 1.0>0.2
WN IND-TPA AUG 3>1.5 SEP 2.0>1.2
WN LAS-BUF SEP 2>1.3
WN LAS-CMH AUG 2>1.4
WN LAS-FLL SEP 1.0>0.7
WN LAS-LGB JUL 1.3>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3
WN LAS-MKE AUG 4>3 SEP 3>1.5
WN LAS-PHL JUL 1.9>1.0
WN LAS-RDU JUL 1.8>1.1
WN LAS-SJC JUL 8>9 AUG 9>10 SEP 9>10
WN LAS-SNA AUG 7>6 SEP 7>6
WN LAX-CUN JUL 2>1.0 AUG 1.5>1.0 SEP 1.2>1.0
WN LAX-DEN SEP 8>7
*WN LAX-OMA SEP 0>1.0
WN LAX-PDX AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.8>3
WN LAX-PIT SEP 1.0>0.7
WN LAX-SJD JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0
WN LAX-TPA AUG 0>0.8 SEP 0>1.0
WN LGA-MKE JUL 3>1.9 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8
WN LGB-SMF JUL 0>2
WN MCI-PNS JUL 1.0>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1
WN MCI-RDU JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MCI-RSW JUL 0.5>0.1 AUG 0.2>0.0
WN MCI-SAN SEP 1.0>1.8
WN MCO-ABQ JUL 1.0>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1
WN MCO-ALB AUG 1.6>1.1
WN MCO-AUA JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0
WN MCO-BHM AUG 1.9>1.3
WN MCO-BWI JUL 11>10 AUG 9>8
WN MCO-DEN SEP 4>3
WN MCO-EWR JUL 2>1.2 AUG 1.9>1.0 SEP 1.8>1.0
WN MCO-MHT SEP 1.8>1.3
WN MCO-MSY AUG 4>3
WN MCO-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MCO-OKC AUG 0.1>0.0
WN MCO-OMA AUG 0.5>0.2
WN MCO-PHL AUG 4>3
WN MCO-SJC JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MCO-SJU AUG 5>4
WN MCO-SMF JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MCO-STL SEP 3>4
WN MDW-BOI AUG 1.1>0.3
WN MDW-CUN AUG 1.6>1.3
WN MDW-FNT JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0 SEP 3>0
WN MDW-GEG AUG 1.0>0.2
WN MDW-MBJ JUL 1.3>1.0 AUG 0.9>0.6
WN MDW-MCI SEP 9>8
WN MDW-MCO JUL 10>9 AUG 8>7
WN MDW-MSP SEP 8>7
WN MDW-PUJ AUG 0.8>0.6
WN MDW-SEA AUG 5>4
WN MDW-SJC JUL 1.0>1.7
WN MDW-SJU JUL 0.2>1.0 AUG 0.1>1.0 SEP 0.1>1.0
WN MDW-SMF AUG 1.8>1.3
WN MDW-TPA AUG 5>4
WN MKE-SAN AUG 1.0>0.2 SEP 1.0>0
WN MKE-SEA SEP 0.1>0.8
WN MKE-SFO AUG 1.0>0.2 SEP 1.0>0
WN MKE-STL JUL 1.0>1.9 AUG 1.0>1.9 SEP 1.0>1.8
WN MKE-TPA JUL 1.9>1.0 AUG 1.4>0.2
WN MSP-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MSY-CUN JUL 0>0.1
WN MSY-RDU AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.2
WN OAK-ONT AUG 7>8
WN OAK-PVR AUG 1.0>0.3
WN OAK-RNO JUL 3>1.9 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8
WN OAK-SAT JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN OAK-SEA JUL 6>7
WN ONT-SJC AUG 4>5
WN ONT-SMF AUG 7>8
WN PDX-SAN JUL 2>3 AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.8>3
WN PDX-SJC JUL 5>6 AUG 4>6 SEP 4>5
WN PDX-SMF SEP 6>5
WN PHL-STL SEP 1.9>3
WN PHX-DEN JUL 10>9
WN PHX-HOU SEP 4>5
WN PHX-ONT JUL 6>7
WN PHX-PHL JUL 1.8>1.1 AUG 1.4>1.0
WN PHX-SJC SEP 5>6
WN PHX-SMF AUG 5>6 SEP 5>6
WN PIT-CUN JUL 0>0.1
WN PIT-RSW AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.3>0.2
WN PNS-STL AUG 0.1>0.0
WN RDU-CUN JUL 0>0.1
WN ROC-TPA AUG 0.5>0.2
WN SAN-PVR JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.2
WN SAN-SJC JUL 11>12 AUG 11>12 SEP 11>12
WN SAN-SMF SEP 11>12
WN SAN-TPA JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN SAT-CUN AUG 0.5>0.2
WN SEA-SJC JUL 3>5 SEP 4>5
WN SFO-SNA JUL 6>3 AUG 6>3 SEP 6>3
WN SJC-SJD JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.2
WN SJC-SNA SEP 10>9
WN SJC-STL JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN SMF-SJD JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.2
WN SMF-SNA SEP 8>7
WN SMF-STL JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN STL-CUN JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.2
WN TPA-SJU AUG 1.5>1.2

X4 HNS-JNU SEP 3>1.4 OCT 1.0>0
X4 JNU-SGY SEP 3>1.6 OCT 1.0>0
*Y4 AUS-GDL APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
Y4 DEN-GDL APR 0.1>0.4 MAY 0.2>0.5 JUN 0.1>0.5 JUL 0.1>0.5 AUG 0.2>0.4 SEP 0.1>0.4 OCT 0.1>0.4
Y4 DEN-MEX APR 0.1>0.4 JUL 0.1>0.7 AUG 0.1>0.7
*Y4 DEN-MTY MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0 AUG 0.1>0 SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0
Y4 DFW-GDL JUN 0.4>0.6
Y4 FAT-GDL JUN 1.0>1.1
Y4 IAH-GDL APR 0.3>0.4 MAY 0.3>0.4 JUN 0.3>0.6 JUL 0.3>0.5 AUG 0.3>0.4 SEP 0.3>0.4 OCT 0.3>0.5
Y4 JFK-MEX APR 0.8>1.6 MAY 0.8>1.6 JUN 0.9>1.6 JUL 0.8>1.6 AUG 0.9>1.5 SEP 0.9>1.6 OCT 0.8>1.6
Y4 LAS-MEX APR 0.6>0.9 MAY 0.6>0.8 JUN 0.6>0.9 JUL 0.5>0.8 AUG 0.6>0.9 SEP 0.5>0.9 OCT 0.6>0.8
Y4 LAX-AGU APR 0.3>0.4 MAY 0.3>0.4 JUN 0.3>0.4 JUL 0.3>0.4 AUG 0.3>0.4 SEP 0.3>0.4 OCT 0.3>0.5
Y4 LAX-MEX APR 1.3>2 MAY 1.3>2 JUN 1.3>2 JUL 1.3>2 AUG 1.3>2 SEP 1.3>2 OCT 1.3>2
Y4 LAX-MLM APR 0.4>0.9 MAY 0.4>0.8 JUN 0.5>0.9 JUL 0.4>0.9 AUG 0.5>0.8 SEP 0.4>0.9 OCT 0.4>0.9
Y4 LAX-OAX APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.1>0.3 SEP 0.2>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
Y4 LAX-PVR APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
*Y4 LAX-QRO APR 0.2>0 MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.1>0 JUL 0.2>0 AUG 0.1>0 SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0
Y4 LAX-ZCL APR 0.4>0.7 MAY 0.5>0.7 JUN 0.4>0.7 JUL 0.4>0.7 AUG 0.5>0.7 SEP 0.4>0.7 OCT 0.4>0.7
*Y4 MCO-MEX APR 0.8>0.3 MAY 0.9>0.1 JUN 0.9>0 JUL 0.8>0.5 AUG 0.9>0.4 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0
Y4 MDW-BJX APR 0.4>0.6 MAY 0.4>0.6 JUN 0.4>0.6 JUL 0.4>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.6 SEP 0.4>0.6 OCT 0.4>0.6
Y4 MDW-GDL JUN 1.0>1.1
Y4 MDW-MLM APR 0.9>1.0 MAY 0.8>1.0 JUN 0.9>1.1 JUL 0.9>1.1 AUG 0.8>1.0 SEP 0.9>1.0 OCT 0.9>1.0
Y4 MIA-MEX JUN 0.3>0.4 AUG 0.3>0.4 SEP 0.3>0.4 OCT 0.3>0.4
Y4 MKE-GDL APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
Y4 OAK-GDL MAY 1.0>0.9 JUL 1.0>1.2 AUG 1.0>1.3 SEP 1.0>0.8
Y4 OAK-MEX APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0 JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0.6 AUG 0.1>0.6 SEP 0.2>0 OCT 0.1>0
Y4 OAK-MLM APR 0.1>0.6 MAY 0.1>0.6 JUN 0.2>0.6 JUL 0.1>0.6 AUG 0.2>0.6 SEP 0.1>0.6 OCT 0.1>0.6
Y4 ONT-GDL APR 0.9>1.0 MAY 0.8>1.0 JUN 0.9>1.0 JUL 0.9>1.0 AUG 0.8>1.0 SEP 0.9>1.0 OCT 0.8>1.0
Y4 ORD-GDL JUN 0.3>0.4 JUL 0.3>0.4
Y4 ORD-MEX APR 0.9>1.0 MAY 0.8>1.0 JUN 0.9>1.0 JUL 0.8>1.0 AUG 0.9>1.0 SEP 0.9>1.0 OCT 0.8>1.0
Y4 ORD-MTY MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
Y4 PDX-GDL JUN 0.6>0.7 JUL 0.5>0.7
Y4 SAT-GDL APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.2>0.3 JUN 0.1>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
Y4 SAT-MEX APR 0.8>1.0 MAY 0.9>1.0 JUN 0.9>1.0 JUL 0.8>1.0 AUG 0.9>1.0 SEP 0.8>1.0 OCT 0.9>1.0
Y4 SFO-MEX APR 0.3>0.6 MAY 0.3>0.5 JUN 0.3>0.6 JUL 0.3>0.7 AUG 0.3>0.6 SEP 0.3>0.6 OCT 0.3>0.6
Y4 SJC-ZCL APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.2>0.3 JUN 0.1>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3 SEP 0.1>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
Y4 SMF-GDL APR 0.7>1.0 MAY 0.7>1.0 JUN 0.7>1.1 JUL 0.7>1.1 AUG 0.7>1.0 SEP 0.7>1.0 OCT 0.7>1.0
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:17 pm

Thank you, as always!
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Any info on what the schedule for the extra flights will be? Maybe an afternoon departure from DEL, arrive in the evening, and then an overnight back?
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:25 pm

Guessing the AS Florida drops (LAX-MCO and SFO-FLL) are VX flights that didn't make money?
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:28 pm

With NK dropping ORD-MSP I'm curious where the aircraft will come from to operate MSP-ATL.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:38 pm

BENAir01 wrote:
Thank you, as always!
“AI SFO-DEL APR 0.9>1.3 MAY 0.8>1.3 JUN 0.9>1.3 JUL 0.8>1.3 AUG 0.9>1.3 SEP 0.9>1.3 OCT 0.8>1.2”
Any info on what the schedule for the extra flights will be? Maybe an afternoon departure from DEL, arrive in the evening, and then an overnight back?

Thanks.
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Cointrin330 wrote:
Guessing the AS Florida drops (LAX-MCO and SFO-FLL) are VX flights that didn't make money?

I've heard rumblings that mainline Alaska is having a pilot shortage now and these long routes save a lot of pilots.
tys777 wrote:
With NK dropping ORD-MSP I'm curious where the aircraft will come from to operate MSP-ATL.

MSP lost a lot of stuff this week. NK has not done well with ORD short-haul.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:42 pm

FWIW, WN already added OAK and SAN from EWR a little while back
ORD & IND

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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:45 pm

Thanks enilria! Lots of interesting updates this week...

enilria wrote:
*AS FLL-SFO JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS LAX-MCO JUL 1.0>0.2 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
I guess they must return these MEX slots?
*AS LAX-MEX MAY 2>1.6 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0


It looks like the combined AS management is starting to act on some of the VX network's lowest yielding routes. FLL-SFO I suspect became especially tough once B6 rolled out Mint, which has done well.

LAX-MCO is one of the lowest yielding transcon markets with what, 5 different carriers flying it? Not surprised to see AS exit.

Regarding LAX-MEX, my recollection is that the reallocated MEX slots required B6 to start LAX-MEX by summer 2018. Is that still happening? Schedules still haven't been loaded...

enilria wrote:
B6 BOS-ORD JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 3>5
B6 BOS-RDU SEP 5>6
B6 LGB-LAS JUL 7>5 AUG 7>5 SEP 7>5


Good to see the increase on BOS-ORD continue through the fall. Let's see if it sticks around through the winter...

So is B6 returning a second slot back to LGB (in addition to the one that went to HA)?

enilria wrote:
WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2


I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...
 
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DTW-BJX? Woah! I thought they’d see GDL before getting into more interior Mexico. This is going to be huge for the automakers.
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:55 pm

jetbluefan1 wrote:

enilria wrote:
WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2


I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...


WN also flies 2x daily PIT-ATL, and 2x CLE-ATL (originally at CAK at 3x daily), and for a period PHL-ATL was 2x daily. When PIT dropped to 2x daily and stayed at that, I was surprised how it kept attractive for business passengers against DL's much greater frequency at the same airport. At DAL, it might be viable for 1x against AA at DFW, but at ATL, WN is right up against DL with high frequency.

My sense is WN in ATL attracts the value segment of the business traffic bookings (likely, a lot of smaller businesses in Atlanta like using WN, as I've experienced some), and of course, WN can route connections through ATL.
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:27 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
FWIW, WN already added OAK and SAN from EWR a little while back

The WN section header says these are year over year changes, so unless WN added this over a year ago the reporting was correct.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:38 pm

jetbluefan1 wrote:
Thanks enilria! Lots of interesting updates this week...

enilria wrote:
WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2


I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...

Thanks

I've expected them out of this route for a long time.
Midwestindy wrote:
FWIW, WN already added OAK and SAN from EWR a little while back

I guess they are just flying it later in the season than last year? Because year-over-year it's new.
phluser wrote:
My sense is WN in ATL attracts the value segment of the business traffic bookings (likely, a lot of smaller businesses in Atlanta like using WN, as I've experienced some), and of course, WN can route connections through ATL.

I think a lot of this goes away in the down part of an economic cycle.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:39 pm

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*3M HSV-MCO JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0

I thought this was kinda interesting.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:55 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
Guessing the AS Florida drops (LAX-MCO and SFO-FLL) are VX flights that didn't make money?


LAX-MCO is one of the lowest yielding transcon routes in the country for all carriers involved. The question is who else will drop out?

I completely predicted this one. SFO-FLL is a case of mint simply killing VX here. The funny part is that UA yields even lower than VX, yet still keep operating it. LAX-FLL will be in serious trouble once B6 adds more frequency on it.

jetbluefan1 wrote:
Thanks enilria! Lots of interesting updates this week...

It looks like the combined AS management is starting to act on some of the VX network's lowest yielding routes. FLL-SFO I suspect became especially tough once B6 rolled out Mint, which has done well.

LAX-MCO is one of the lowest yielding transcon markets with what, 5 different carriers flying it? Not surprised to see AS exit.

Regarding LAX-MEX, my recollection is that the reallocated MEX slots required B6 to start LAX-MEX by summer 2018. Is that still happening? Schedules still haven't been loaded...

Good to see the increase on BOS-ORD continue through the fall. Let's see if it sticks around through the winter...

So is B6 returning a second slot back to LGB (in addition to the one that went to HA)?

I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...

interesting, B6 is up to 11 daily flights at RDU now. They should look into adding MCO and possibly SJU. JFK-RDU have been performing really well. Not surprised they've added a 3rd one and same with BOS-RDU.

Also, I noticed over the recent schedule extension, JFK-LAX/BOS-SEA/BOS-SAN all lost one daily. I wonder if they are opening a new mint route (EWR-LAX?) or reallocating it to FLL or something like that.

phluser wrote:
jetbluefan1 wrote:

I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...


WN also flies 2x daily PIT-ATL, and 2x CLE-ATL (originally at CAK at 3x daily), and for a period PHL-ATL was 2x daily. When PIT dropped to 2x daily and stayed at that, I was surprised how it kept attractive for business passengers against DL's much greater frequency at the same airport. At DAL, it might be viable for 1x against AA at DFW, but at ATL, WN is right up against DL with high frequency.

My sense is WN in ATL attracts the value segment of the business traffic bookings (likely, a lot of smaller businesses in Atlanta like using WN, as I've experienced some), and of course, WN can route connections through ATL.


BOS-ATL is a huge bloodbath. NK yields are at LAX-PDX/SEA level right before they cut those routes, so I think they are toast. B6 is definitely loosing money. WN is definitely loosing money also. DL is down $100 per passengers, don't think they are making much money either. B6 is tolerating this kind of losses for network reasons and hoping that one or both of NK/WN dropping out. Long term, I see this as a route with only B6 and DL. Same with BOS-MSP in a couple of years time.

*AS MSP-SFO MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0

not a surprise. Hard to go into DL fortress hub with once daily. They are yielding about as well as SY on this route on a 76 seater. SFO/SAN-SLC are also yielding pretty terribly. Not sure how long those get kept around.

At this rate, B6 will have those 4 gates at INTL terminal to itself pretty soon.

WN MCO-EWR JUL 2>1.2 AUG 1.9>1.0 SEP 1.8>1.0

WN is getting killed on EWR-MCO/FLL. Surprised they haven't cut down EWR-FLL yet.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:56 pm

enilria wrote:
enilria wrote:
*3M HSV-MCO JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0

I thought this was kinda interesting.


Yup, the first of their ATR routes.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:56 pm

DL CVG-XNA JUL 0.7>0.5

That doesn't bode well for the P&G Walmart express or is it just a few flights cut around July 4th...or is it cut to 4x weekly for the month?

Doesn't CVG-XNA normally operate X67?
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:04 pm

tphuang wrote:
BOS-ATL is a huge bloodbath. NK yields are at LAX-PDX/SEA level right before they cut those routes, so I think they are toast. B6 is definitely loosing money. WN is definitely loosing money also. DL is down $100 per passengers, don't think they are making much money either. B6 is tolerating this kind of losses for network reasons and hoping that one or both of NK/WN dropping out. Long term, I see this as a route with only B6 and DL. Same with BOS-MSP in a couple of years time.


I always thought NK-WN-B6 was often like rock paper scissors.

NK beats WN
B6 beats NK
WN beats B6

That may be changing with B6 getting stronger in BOS.
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enilria wrote:
enilria wrote:
*3M HSV-MCO JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0

I thought this was kinda interesting.


Isn't this one of 3M's first ATR routes?
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:12 pm

Thanks as always Enilria!

Dominion301 wrote:
DL CVG-XNA JUL 0.7>0.5

That doesn't bode well for the P&G Walmart express or is it just a few flights cut around July 4th...or is it cut to 4x weekly for the month?

Doesn't CVG-XNA normally operate X67?


Looks like the July 4th theory is correct. The flight is gone for that entire week. After then it's back to M-F for the rest of the month.

I mentioned it in another thread, but I don't think the equipment downgrade to a regularly scheduled CR2 bodes well for the flight. DL at XNA has been CR7 at minimum (other than holiday weeks or one-off flights) for over a year, yet the CR2 is coming back for XNA-CVG in April. I'd assume if there was that much business demand, the fares would offset the use of a CR7. Though if DL gives up the flight, a big portion of the XNA originating traffic will likely go to AA.
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:17 pm

enilria wrote:

*AS FLL-SFO JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS LAX-MCO JUL 1.0>0.2 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
I guess they must return these MEX slots?
*AS LAX-MEX MAY 2>1.6 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0
AS LAX-PVR AUG 1.5>1.4
*AS MSP-SFO MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS SAN-MEX MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
AS SEA-BNA JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.8
AS SEA-BUR JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
AS SEA-ORD JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5

*WN EWR-OAK SEP 0>1.0
WN IND-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MCO-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MSP-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN OAK-ONT AUG 7>8
WN OAK-PVR AUG 1.0>0.3
WN OAK-RNO JUL 3>1.9 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8
WN OAK-SAT JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN OAK-SEA JUL 6>7


I'm not too surprised to see some routes out of the SFO being dropped considering the yields and competition in those markets. It is my guess that the drop in LAX-MEX service and the dropped SAN-MEX have more to do with low loads. I'm sure we'll see much more rearranging of flights when the VX schedule is integrated with AS schedules.

I'm really impressed with WN's expansion of OAK. I never realized that WN had been adding some of those routes at OAK!
 
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Is it just me or is G4 reducing/cutting a lot of frequencies. The last report showed them reducing just about everything out of AVL, and looks like a lot put of PIE as well, unless im reading this wrong.

On the other hand. I'm glad to see WN add LAX from TPA.
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:27 pm

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BOS-ATL is a huge bloodbath. NK yields are at LAX-PDX/SEA level right before they cut those routes, so I think they are toast.


AFAIK, NK is seasonal on BOS-ATL, and if it's cut, it's no game changer for them strategically. Atleast on my ventures on PHL-ATL on NK, majority of the pax are Black. In Boston, the Black population is a lot less than Philly. With WN, a cut to ATL is more meaningful since WN acquired FL and tried to make routes work for business passengers. Would Amazon HQ2 decision make a difference? WN might want to wait to see If Boston or Atlanta are the next HQ2, before decision of cuts at either end. Aside from that, I also wonder if WN would take a page from it's old playbook and consider PVD, for maybe a flight to ATL if it doesn't want to compete out of BOS.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:36 pm

*AS SAN-MEX MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0

B6 YOY Compare
B6 BOS-SAN JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3

*WN EWR-SAN SEP 0>1.0

RE some of the comments posted already on some of these changes, I will add that the dropping of SAN-MEX by AAG surprises me in that the route only began last November. I guess the loads must have been horrible so they cut their loses after only a little over 6 months of past and future numbers to look at. (And apparently LAX-MEX didn't do so well either...)

I had honestly thought that SAN-MEX, if served consistently by a reliable American carrier, could successfully compete against the ton of (domestic) service between TIJ and MEX, especially with the CBX facility. I guess I (and Alaska) were wrong... Too bad; I just hope they didn't give up too soon. I wonder if they can use this slot -- plus the one cut from LAX-MEX -- elsewhere on their network? (And hopefully, AAG will use the freed up EMJ for something else from SAN, such as GEG, MKE or ELP.)

I assumed all along that B6's 3rd daily SAN-BOS flight would continue at least thru this summer, perhaps remaining permanently? So far, so good but we'll see.

Yes, the WN between SAN and EWR -- and I assume OAK-EWR as well -- were expected to go year-round when they return this spring/summer. (But then, so was SAN-IND and it didn't, so who knows...) Regarding SLC-SAN, WN entered the market as the 3rd participant so I wouldn't be real surprised if they dropped that route eventually.

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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:37 pm

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Thank you, as always!
“AI SFO-DEL APR 0.9>1.3 MAY 0.8>1.3 JUN 0.9>1.3 JUL 0.8>1.3 AUG 0.9>1.3 SEP 0.9>1.3 OCT 0.8>1.2”
Any info on what the schedule for the extra flights will be? Maybe an afternoon departure from DEL, arrive in the evening, and then an overnight back?


It looks like an 1800 departure from DEL, arriving 20:30, departing SFO at 100, arriving 0600 +1.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:50 pm

Interesting if AS gives up their MEX slots as WN gave up 2 of their pairs too.

Is there a reason why they don't operate SEA-MEX?
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:55 pm

tphuang wrote:
BOS-ATL is a huge bloodbath. NK yields are at LAX-PDX/SEA level right before they cut those routes, so I think they are toast. B6 is definitely loosing money. WN is definitely loosing money also. DL is down $100 per passengers, don't think they are making much money either. B6 is tolerating this kind of losses for network reasons and hoping that one or both of NK/WN dropping out. Long term, I see this as a route with only B6 and DL. Same with BOS-MSP in a couple of years time.


I don't see B6 pushing WN off BOS-ATL entirely. Southwest in bigger in ATL than B6 is in Boston. $45 one-way fares with bags 'flying free' shows Southwest is willing to lose money in the market. There's room for three carriers in an O&D market that size, and WN can always route connecting traffic thru ATL. I do wonder if DL will keep so much capacity in the market, at 12x 321 + 1x 320 (on a July Monday).
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:00 pm

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UA ORD-FCO OCT 0.1>0.8


They really should try year-round service on this route. Nobody else does it from ORD since both American and Alitalia both suspend as well. If it can support 3x daily in the summer I'd think 1x daily in winter is doable.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:25 pm

UA’s FLL/MCO - SFO are timed for the prime Asia bank. Plus west coast connections of course.

MCO-LAX seems more timed for entertainment business between the two cities, along with connections to SIN and SYD
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:38 pm

ericm2031 wrote:
Interesting if AS gives up their MEX slots as WN gave up 2 of their pairs too.

Is there a reason why they don't operate SEA-MEX?

What AAG did was cancel an entire EMJ daily operation: SAN-MEX-LAX-MEX-SAN. They still operate a 737 r/t between LAX and MEX, which ties in with a SFO-MEX r/t. So yes, AAG is finished with 1 LAX-MEX slot and a single SAN-MEX slot. My question earlier in the thread was whether these slots are available for AAG to use elsewhere in their network or do they go back in the MEX-Bilateral pool? (I assume it's the latter.)

Otherwise, would they maybe be able to use 1 slot each to start SEA-MEX and PDX-MEX, both of which they elected not to serve when the slots were originally awarded?

My other question remains, what will they do with the newly-available EMJ as of May 20??? New route? More frequency in an existing market? Return it to OO perhaps relieving some crew availability pressure?

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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:41 pm

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Thanks as always Enilria!

Dominion301 wrote:
DL CVG-XNA JUL 0.7>0.5

That doesn't bode well for the P&G Walmart express or is it just a few flights cut around July 4th...or is it cut to 4x weekly for the month?

Doesn't CVG-XNA normally operate X67?


Looks like the July 4th theory is correct. The flight is gone for that entire week. After then it's back to M-F for the rest of the month.

I mentioned it in another thread, but I don't think the equipment downgrade to a regularly scheduled CR2 bodes well for the flight. DL at XNA has been CR7 at minimum (other than holiday weeks or one-off flights) for over a year, yet the CR2 is coming back for XNA-CVG in April. I'd assume if there was that much business demand, the fares would offset the use of a CR7. Though if DL gives up the flight, a big portion of the XNA originating traffic will likely go to AA.

They just loaded the CR7 back into the schedule starting Nov 24, perhaps the CR7 could come back?
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:43 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
I always thought NK-WN-B6 was often like rock paper scissors.
NK beats WN

Agreed
adamh8297 wrote:
B6 beats NK

I don't agree. Reverse. I think in FLL, NK does fine. Maybe better.
adamh8297 wrote:
WN beats B6

I don't agree. Reverse. WN has failed at gaining ground in B6 focus cities like BOS, NYC, and to a large extent FLL.
wedgetail737 wrote:
I'm not too surprised to see some routes out of the SFO being dropped considering the yields and competition in those markets.

An unfortunate consequence of AS backing off transcons is that it makes an AS-B6 merger easier.
ericm2031 wrote:
Interesting if AS gives up their MEX slots as WN gave up 2 of their pairs too.

I expect the Mexican LCCs to get more of these slots.
SANFan wrote:
My question earlier in the thread was whether these slots are available for AAG to use elsewhere in their network or do they go back in the MEX-Bilateral pool? (I assume it's the latter.)

Pretty sure the pool.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:43 pm

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DTW-BJX? Woah! I thought they’d see GDL before getting into more interior Mexico. This is going to be huge for the automakers.

If BJX proves successful, it's only a matter of time!
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:46 pm

SANFan wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:
Interesting if AS gives up their MEX slots as WN gave up 2 of their pairs too.

Is there a reason why they don't operate SEA-MEX?

What AAG did was cancel an entire EMJ daily operation: SAN-MEX-LAX-MEX-SAN. They still operate a 737 r/t between LAX and MEX, which ties in with a SFO-MEX r/t. So yes, AAG is finished with 1 LAX-MEX slot and a single SAN-MEX slot. My question earlier in the thread was whether these slots are available for AAG to use elsewhere in their network or do they go back in the MEX-Bilateral pool? (I assume it's the latter.)

Otherwise, would they maybe be able to use 1 slot each to start SEA-MEX and PDX-MEX, both of which they elected not to serve when the slots were originally awarded?

My other question remains, what will they do with the newly-available EMJ as of May 20??? New route? More frequency in an existing market? Return it to OO perhaps relieving some crew availability pressure?

bb


AS is contracting SkyWest CRJ-200's to fly on several of the routes out of SEA and PDX to places like GEG, BOI, RNO and FAT...just to name a few. I still think we will see these EMJ's filling in additional longer-haul Q400 routes like RNO, FAT and STS...eventually. Perhaps we'll also see additional frequencies on existing, developing routes. Lastly, there will be quite a few EMJ resources to be used out of PAE when that starts in the Fall.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:56 pm

Alaska is not dropping FLLSFO. It resumes November 16th. It has typically been seasonal in the first place, although I think it operated last summer.
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:59 pm

enilria wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
I always thought NK-WN-B6 was often like rock paper scissors.
NK beats WN

Agreed
adamh8297 wrote:
B6 beats NK

I don't agree. Reverse. I think in FLL, NK does fine. Maybe better.
adamh8297 wrote:
WN beats B6

I don't agree. Reverse. WN has failed at gaining ground in B6 focus cities like BOS, NYC, and to a large extent FLL.
wedgetail737 wrote:
I'm not too surprised to see some routes out of the SFO being dropped considering the yields and competition in those markets.

An unfortunate consequence of AS backing off transcons is that it makes an AS-B6 merger easier.


Re NK vs B6 at FLL - I think NK does very well, but B6 maintains a significant RASM premium. Granted, FLL is not as profitable as BOS for B6, but it serves a different role in the network and is at a different stage in development. That said, I don't think B6 is making any money flying markets like FLL-MSY/BWI/PIT, but also does very well in markets like FLL-RDU/RIC and of course to the Islands...

The competitive dynamic among NK/WN/B6 at FLL is still playing out, with no carrier signaling it will "blink" anytime soon.

Interesting to note that SFO-FLL/LAX-MCO overlap with B6, and I suspect we could see something similar in other markets as Mint has recently been rolled out to SAN/LAS/SEA - mostly in markets with AS/VX overlap. BOS-SAN and JFK-LAS come to mind. If oil prices continue to move upward, some of these transcon markets become harder to justify.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:02 pm

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UA’s FLL/MCO - SFO are timed for the prime Asia bank. Plus west coast connections of course.

MCO-LAX seems more timed for entertainment business between the two cities, along with connections to SIN and SYD


I think both are fine for now. MCO suffering from over saturation to the west coast and low yields. ULCC competition also.

FLL being killed by Mint. In fact, I'm told by a reliable person that AA is feeling the impact on MIA transcoms that compete with B6 FLL Mint operations (FLL-
LAX/SFO).
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:08 pm

enilria wrote:
I expect the Mexican LCCs to get more of these slots.
SANFan wrote:
My question earlier in the thread was whether these slots are available for AAG to use elsewhere in their network or do they go back in the MEX-Bilateral pool? (I assume it's the latter.)

Pretty sure the pool.


Anyone else was baffled at NK and to a lesser extent F9 never applying for MEX slots? And also why isnt SEA-MEX on AS and JFK-MEX on B6 being tried out. The latter would be huge for B6
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:09 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
SANFan wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:
Interesting if AS gives up their MEX slots as WN gave up 2 of their pairs too.

Is there a reason why they don't operate SEA-MEX?

What AAG did was cancel an entire EMJ daily operation: SAN-MEX-LAX-MEX-SAN. They still operate a 737 r/t between LAX and MEX, which ties in with a SFO-MEX r/t. So yes, AAG is finished with 1 LAX-MEX slot and a single SAN-MEX slot. My question earlier in the thread was whether these slots are available for AAG to use elsewhere in their network or do they go back in the MEX-Bilateral pool? (I assume it's the latter.)

Otherwise, would they maybe be able to use 1 slot each to start SEA-MEX and PDX-MEX, both of which they elected not to serve when the slots were originally awarded?

My other question remains, what will they do with the newly-available EMJ as of May 20??? New route? More frequency in an existing market? Return it to OO perhaps relieving some crew availability pressure?

bb


AS is contracting SkyWest CRJ-200's to fly on several of the routes out of SEA and PDX to places like GEG, BOI, RNO and FAT...just to name a few. I still think we will see these EMJ's filling in additional longer-haul Q400 routes like RNO, FAT and STS...eventually. Perhaps we'll also see additional frequencies on existing, developing routes. Lastly, there will be quite a few EMJ resources to be used out of PAE when that starts in the Fall.


I think a lot of the CRJ flying is due to equipment and/or staffing issues, not demand. FAT is a CRJ MX bass, so I believe the RONs have a lot to do with that. I don’t think AS would still be operating the CRJ if they didn’t have to...
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:13 pm

jetbluefan1 wrote:
enilria wrote:
WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2


I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...


A little brow-furrowing to see the number of weekday September flights for some Boston markets:
2x Atlanta
1x Columbus
1x Houston
1x Indianapolis

Sure, September is a week month because kids are back in school and people who have taken summer vacations are not primed to take another getaway so quickly after summer has ended. But September is not a weak business month and the level of service is just not worth much in these competitive business-travel city pairs.

This is a good-economy era with reasonable fuel prices and yet Southwest is choosing to trim back this flying. How will they do when we have $110 oil or a recession? If Southwest want to compete solidly for business travel in market like these they either need to stick it out in slower months or look to smaller aircraft. Of course nothing says they have to be going for the business market in these city pairs, but that raises the question of who do they want to be. When an Atlanta flyer can't get a nonstop to Boston until 1:30 in the afternoon it sure doesn't help build loyalty. And when you consider that travelers typically have to seek out Southwest specifically, whose to say they will bother checking Southwest the next time they fly even if there is a morning nonstop back in the schedule
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:18 pm

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WN MCO-ABQ JUL 1.0>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1


Sure didn't take WN very long to tuck tail and run after Frontier announced the route.
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:23 pm

knope2001 wrote:
jetbluefan1 wrote:
enilria wrote:
WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2


I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer...


A little brow-furrowing to see the number of weekday September flights for some Boston markets:
2x Atlanta
1x Columbus
1x Houston
1x Indianapolis

Sure, September is a week month because kids are back in school and people who have taken summer vacations are not primed to take another getaway so quickly after summer has ended. But September is not a weak business month and the level of service is just not worth much in these competitive business-travel city pairs.

This is a good-economy era with reasonable fuel prices and yet Southwest is choosing to trim back this flying. How will they do when we have $110 oil or a recession? If Southwest want to compete solidly for business travel in market like these they either need to stick it out in slower months or look to smaller aircraft. Of course nothing says they have to be going for the business market in these city pairs, but that raises the question of who do they want to be. When an Atlanta flyer can't get a nonstop to Boston until 1:30 in the afternoon it sure doesn't help build loyalty. And when you consider that travelers typically have to seek out Southwest specifically, whose to say they will bother checking Southwest the next time they fly even if there is a morning nonstop back in the schedule


These are excellent points, but at the end of the day there are limits to the market that WN can chase. WN's relatively decentralized network generally works well for them, but in this case they are playing second or third fiddle to entrenched local incumbents in an Alpha-minus market. At some point, you run out of market share to chase. ATL is a big enough operation to run connections over (especially from Florida), but at that point you are dlitued local yields and flows over your primary east coast connecting operation (BWI).
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:26 pm

Alias1024 wrote:
enilria wrote:
WN MCO-ABQ JUL 1.0>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1


Sure didn't take WN very long to tuck tail and run after Frontier announced the route.


This route has long surprised me - it seems pretty darn thin. Even more shocking was ABQ-TPA, which WN flew daily for several years.

ABQ is a fantastic city, but it isn't exactly a quick hop to Florida, and there are several large WN stations along the way.

Can definitely see F9 exploiting a nice seasonal, less than daily market here, however.
 
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Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:47 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
enilria wrote:

*AS FLL-SFO JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS LAX-MCO JUL 1.0>0.2 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
I guess they must return these MEX slots?
*AS LAX-MEX MAY 2>1.6 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0
AS LAX-PVR AUG 1.5>1.4
*AS MSP-SFO MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
*AS SAN-MEX MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
AS SEA-BNA JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>1.8
AS SEA-BUR JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
AS SEA-ORD JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5 SEP 4>5 OCT 4>5

*WN EWR-OAK SEP 0>1.0
WN IND-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MCO-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN MSP-OAK AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN OAK-ONT AUG 7>8
WN OAK-PVR AUG 1.0>0.3
WN OAK-RNO JUL 3>1.9 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8
WN OAK-SAT JUL 0>0.8 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0
WN OAK-SEA JUL 6>7


I'm not too surprised to see some routes out of the SFO being dropped considering the yields and competition in those markets. It is my guess that the drop in LAX-MEX service and the dropped SAN-MEX have more to do with low loads. I'm sure we'll see much more rearranging of flights when the VX schedule is integrated with AS schedules.

I'm really impressed with WN's expansion of OAK. I never realized that WN had been adding some of those routes at OAK!


WN seems like they are expanding SJC even faster. It’s been a virtual explosion at SJC with not only WN, but other carriers.

Interesting that the early speculation that AS/VX would build a hub at SFO, and at the expense of SJC. The opposite seems to be happening unless I’ve missed some AS expansion at SFO.
 
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BobbyPSP wrote:
UA’s FLL/MCO - SFO are timed for the prime Asia bank. Plus west coast connections of course.

MCO-LAX seems more timed for entertainment business between the two cities, along with connections to SIN and SYD


I think both are fine for now. MCO suffering from over saturation to the west coast and low yields. ULCC competition also.

FLL being killed by Mint. In fact, I'm told by a reliable person that AA is feeling the impact on MIA transcoms that compete with B6 FLL Mint operations (FLL-
LAX/SFO).


Again, AS is not ending FLLSFO, it goes back to seasonal.

But I have no doubt Mint is hurting AA at MIA. I have not flown AA since JetBlue Mint entered the picture, and on my last Mint flight FLL-LAX flight you can tell it was AA defectors because people were having conversations about it with the crew. Imagine if B6 wised up and moved Mint to MIA. It would be a disaster for AA.
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Chuska
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Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:15 pm

When G4 added ABQ-AUS 2x per week, WN matched it. Now with F9 adding ABQ-AUS 3x week (on the days WN and G4 don't operate), wonder if WN will make the route daily. Oddly, on the Mar 8 schedule, WN will have the one flight on Fridays and 3 flights on Sundays.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:19 pm

enilria wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
WN beats B6

I don't agree. Reverse. WN has failed at gaining ground in B6 focus cities like BOS, NYC, and to a large extent FLL.


B6 does have 2 daily nonstops in each direction between BOS and DFW, but B6 does not currently serve JFK or FLL nonstop from DFW. On the other hand, WN has 4 daily nonstops to LGA from DAL and 2 daily nonstops to FLL from DAL.

WN only currently has 1 daily nonstop in each direction between DAL and BOS, but WN can connect passengers between DAL and BOS through MCI, STL, BNA, ATL, MDW, and BWI.

WN also has more flights to LGA, EWR, BOS, and FLL from MDW than B6 does to JFK, BOS, and FLL from ORD.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:21 pm

flymco753 wrote:
DTW-BJX? Woah! I thought they’d see GDL before getting into more interior Mexico. This is going to be huge for the automakers.


It amazes me that people think there’s a market from DTW to BJX.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:30 pm

With SAN-MEX being cut, does this speak to the viability or success of other E175 routes (SAN-DAL, OMA, MSP, MCI)? Thanks!
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:36 pm

jetero wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
DTW-BJX? Woah! I thought they’d see GDL before getting into more interior Mexico. This is going to be huge for the automakers.


It amazes me that people think there’s a market from DTW to BJX.


Google 'automotive investment Guanajuato.'

International hotel chains, including Marriott, Hilton, and Starwood will build 52 new business hotels between 2014 and 2018 in the state of Guanajuato alone, bringing in US$350 million in investment.

http://hir.harvard.edu/article/?a=13142

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