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axiom wrote:Is APD controlled by the Scottish government? Didn't realize thatt power was devolved.
sevenair wrote:
So if it's due to Brexit, why move the plane to EDI which is a city that is also leaving the EU and if it's due to APD then APD is still chargeable at EDI. Could it be that GLA is simply a larger yet much less affluent part of the central belt and instead of saying 'we can make more money at EDI' they put political pressure on. easyJet recently added to GLA so they see some potential in it.
leghorn wrote:The same is true for Glasgow and Edinburgh. Their jobs are probably safe if they transfer but their disposable income after rent will be gone.
nighthawk wrote:leghorn wrote:The same is true for Glasgow and Edinburgh. Their jobs are probably safe if they transfer but their disposable income after rent will be gone.
It's only an hours drive away, they don't really need to move unless they want to. Depending on which side of the city they live, EDI might be just as easy, if not easier, to get to for them.
leghorn wrote:I figure the following comes in to the decision:
Edinburgh is wealthier.
I speculate tickets prices are higher at Edinburgh
At higher ticket prices APD hurts less.
Ryanair have better "opportunities" to make use of limited resources elsewhere.
They don't fear a competitor can step in to the breach and scoop up profitable business when they depart.
Whatever the reason, you can be sure that Ryanair arrived at the decision pragmatically.
Bhoy wrote:I can't see Derry working from EDI; I would have thought that was more a West Coast customer base...
ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:APD?
Bhoy wrote:ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:APD?
Air Passenger Duty, the government imposed tax on all departing Passengers from the U.K., the highest tax in Europe.
Bhoy wrote:I can't see Derry working from EDI; I would have thought that was more a West Coast customer base...
sevenair wrote:axiom wrote:Is APD controlled by the Scottish government? Didn't realize thatt power was devolved.
No. It was going to be but the Scottish government asked that it be delayed and remain a reserved power at the last minute for the foreseeable future. The nationalists rely on the Greens on many matters and the Greens obviously can't be seen to be increasing flying and carbon emissions so it's on hiatus until at least April 2019.
EDI is full, will be full once all works have been completed and will soon overflow I can't see the point. Yes there's the argument of APD impacting more rural communities but that's what the ADS scheme is for. Subsidising flights and having zero APD doesn't sit well with the Greens.
leghorn wrote:I figure the following comes in to the decision:
Edinburgh is wealthier.
I speculate tickets prices are higher at Edinburgh
At higher ticket prices APD hurts less.
Pe@rson wrote:Clearly FR has a better deal at EDI and will grow its scale there. That it'll retain 3 routes at GLA - including the core DUB - suggests that these perform well.
continental004 wrote:this situation is a good argument for consolidating EDI and GLA into one central airport.
TSS wrote:they're undoubtedly earmarked for LHR's fifth runway, once they've gotten round to the third and fourth ones first, and in the meantime (i.e. In perpetuity) will be 'used' by the Treasury to make up for Tory landlords not paying Tax...continental004 wrote:this situation is a good argument for consolidating EDI and GLA into one central airport.
Interesting…
My first thought was "Yer mad!", but after finding out the distance between Edinburgh and Glasgow is only about 40 miles or so (For no specific reason I had assumed it was several times that), I have to agree with you. Onward and upward with the new Whitburn International Airport, I say!
On another note, are these APD fees/taxes earmarked for UK airport improvement/expansion or are they just dumped in to a "general fund" somewhere?
skipness1E wrote:Pe@rson wrote:Clearly FR has a better deal at EDI and will grow its scale there. That it'll retain 3 routes at GLA - including the core DUB - suggests that these perform well.
DUB was moved from PIK and STN is once again dropped, used to be massive for them out of PIK.
Rostov and Krakow are not what one would call core routes. It seems that they struggle somewhat on the core holiday routes, ironic given they killed the competition out of PIK on this one, used to see Iberworld, Air Europa and Futura run a heavy summer schedule but all that collapsed when Ryanair refocused on sun routes out of PIK. Now FR have re-focussed again to EDI leaving the West coast with a fraction of what it once had with 5 (was it ever 6?) based frames at PIK.
It seems that the half hearted shift from PIK into GLA meant they were never quite sure what GLA was for? With sun routes remaining at PIK and STN being dropped, they were busy flying lots of places not very often. I actually don't think GLA will miss them as Jet2 seem to be a better fit for the old Weegies-to-the-sun core markets.
SQ789 wrote:Some routes can also be move to Prestwick as well. How long has they served GLA?
Embajador3 wrote:What is going to happen to their MAD route out of GLA?
skipness1E wrote:To say Glasgow has almost zero international tourist draw is utterly false, it doesn;t have as much as a resurgent capital city but to claim it's all outbound is patently and measurably misleading.