william wrote:Being constructed as we speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... p44Y6cR-YY
Have a feeling it will spawn a new design theme for airports around the world.
Galwayman wrote:Wow looks brilliant - going to be the most impressive airport in North America easily
dz09 wrote:a little bit similar to Guangzhou airport.
stburke wrote:Galwayman wrote:Wow looks brilliant - going to be the most impressive airport in North America easily
Pifft. Have you ever even been to LGA?
aerolimani wrote:When you fly in to MEX now, you generally pass by the new site. You can see the building outline already. It's quite the sight!
It's supposed to start operations in 2020.
KrustyTheKlown wrote:The Current MEX airport is as awful as LGA but with an extra 14M passengers/year. A new MEX is long overdue.
Mortyman wrote:When will it open ?
EddieDude wrote:It is beautiful indeed.
It is my understanding that construction is significantly behind schedule (not that anyone familiar with the Mexican public sector way of doing things should be surprised by this). Moreover, the presidential candidate who is ahead in the polls has threatened to cancel the project in order to continue using the current MEX and also adapt the Santa Lucía Air Force base for civilian operations so as to become the second Mexico City airport. Hopefully he won't get elected and if he does he won't follow through with this.
yellowtail wrote:How many gates will the new MEX have and how does that compare with the current MEX? I would say they would need to increase gate space by at least 50% from current.
paparrucho wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp44Y6cR-YY
n7371f wrote:It won't be 2021. In fact it may be never. Elections are up-coming and some of the progressive candidates don't want to spend the $ on a new airport. What you see from the air essentially are outlines. Interestingly, there's one confirmed report of a plane lining up to land on one of the fake runways.
KrustyTheKlown wrote:n7371f wrote:It won't be 2021. In fact it may be never. Elections are up-coming and some of the progressive candidates don't want to spend the $ on a new airport. What you see from the air essentially are outlines. Interestingly, there's one confirmed report of a plane lining up to land on one of the fake runways.
Quite a few issues with your comment:
- The anti-airport candidate is not a progressive, AMLO is a 70's style Mexican populist and his platform is so non-progressive that he wants to re-open coal power plants (despite the fact that Mexico will have to import coal to fuel them) and formed a coalition with an anti-gay party.
- His advisors are hinting they want him to flip on the airport issue as he has already flipped in lots of issues.
- What you see from the air are not outlines but rather very extensive soil-improvement and foundation works. In fact the structures of the terminal and control tower should be at least 70% complete by the time the next president takes office. Scrapping all this would easily cost 7+ Billion dollars.
- I really doubt there's such thing as a "report of a plane lining up to land on one of the fake runways" as their heading it's very different from the one used by the old MEX airport and there are not general aviation ops in MEX.
This drone video shows what's the real situation on the new airport site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EpnEllrkAA (to give some sense of scale the terminal is going to be almost 1 mile from tip to tip and the runways are 16,400 ft / 5km long meaning that the airport site covers an area larger than the currently used by Istanbul's or Beijing's new airports).
Wayfarer515 wrote:KrustyTheKlown wrote:n7371f wrote:It won't be 2021. In fact it may be never. Elections are up-coming and some of the progressive candidates don't want to spend the $ on a new airport. What you see from the air essentially are outlines. Interestingly, there's one confirmed report of a plane lining up to land on one of the fake runways.
Quite a few issues with your comment:
- The anti-airport candidate is not a progressive, AMLO is a 70's style Mexican populist and his platform is so non-progressive that he wants to re-open coal power plants (despite the fact that Mexico will have to import coal to fuel them) and formed a coalition with an anti-gay party.
- His advisors are hinting they want him to flip on the airport issue as he has already flipped in lots of issues.
- What you see from the air are not outlines but rather very extensive soil-improvement and foundation works. In fact the structures of the terminal and control tower should be at least 70% complete by the time the next president takes office. Scrapping all this would easily cost 7+ Billion dollars.
- I really doubt there's such thing as a "report of a plane lining up to land on one of the fake runways" as their heading it's very different from the one used by the old MEX airport and there are not general aviation ops in MEX.
This drone video shows what's the real situation on the new airport site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EpnEllrkAA (to give some sense of scale the terminal is going to be almost 1 mile from tip to tip and the runways are 16,400 ft / 5km long meaning that the airport site covers an area larger than the currently used by Istanbul's or Beijing's new airports).
You speak as if this airport is not another example of the extreme corruption that has been ongoing in EPN´s government, which is the real reason AMLO wants to scrap this project in the first place.
This airport was built right on top of the TEXCOCO lake, so any major earthquake will create severe sand liquefaction and sand volcanoes, which will basically destroy it. This is a monumental waste of money of the Mexican taxpayers money and probably never be able to begin operations, that´s how the current party has dilapidated the Mexican people´s vast resources over the past century.
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/bloomber ... ria-no-ser
TheRedBaron wrote:The new MEX...omg! I could write 4 pages on how bad the whole thing is, but just the fact that it lies below the current MEX and its prone to flooding and has an Active Volcano 45 miles away and a body of water known to attract migratory birds...is enough! just as a fantasy you can see in the Video where there is an Aeromexico 747..... FAKE and yep a monument to the corruption of the Mexican government..
Best regards
TRB
zrh177 wrote:Definitely a beautiful design. However, the very organic, free-flowing shape does not look ideal for future expansion.
Wayfarer515 wrote:KrustyTheKlown wrote:Wayfarer515 wrote:
You speak as if this airport is not another example of the extreme corruption that has been ongoing in EPN´s government, which is the real reason AMLO wants to scrap this project in the first place.
This airport was built right on top of the TEXCOCO lake, so any major earthquake will create severe sand liquefaction and sand volcanoes, which will basically destroy it. This is a monumental waste of money of the Mexican taxpayers money and probably never be able to begin operations, that´s how the current party has dilapidated the Mexican people´s vast resources over the past century.
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/bloomber ... ria-no-ser
AMLO doesn't want to cancel the airport as an anti-corruption move, if he were truly anti-corruption he would appoint a special auditor/prosecutor to investigate the legality of every single airport contract. AMLO wants to cancel it so he can give the contracts to builders aligned with his party. His airport proposal was made by a José Riobóo, whose company lost the tender for designing the new airport's runways due to lack of expertise building airports and his proposal was 30% expensive than the company that won the tender. Furthermore AMLO's proposal is little more than a powerpoint presentation as he doesn't even have an air space study, much less the actual design of an airport (trust me, I read the book his party published "detailing" his airport proposal and it doesn't contain a single technical study, it's just political posturing and diagrams made with powerpoint).
You know what else is right on top of the Texcoco lake? the old MEX airport and Santa Lucia base (AMLO's proposed airport site). With the big difference that no soil-improvement works were made in either site and so their soil is effectively more unsuitable for an airport than the one that is under construction.
Also you don't really seem to known the geology of the site as there's no sand on it (so no sand volcanos) and the article you linked doesn't support a single one of your complaints.
I'm not fan of the Texcoco site, but excluding the Tizayuca airport proposal it's the "less worse" option for an airport in the Mexico city area.
TFA i linked was not interested to show any of the geological aspects, but you can study by yourself what the bottom of a lake is composed of.
The article was meant to show the corruption of the current government, and its sheer incompetence to do anything but stealing the taxpayers' money. I also dont see you rebutting anything that is mentioned in it, so I will guess you are just one of Pena Nietos cronies.
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"The proposal is only viable short term and it's logistically very complex", said Schtulmann regarding Lopez Obrador's proposal. "He likes to paint himself as a tough character, but if he wins the election he would have to take a different position. The issue is that after the project has started it would be very difficult to cancel it".
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KrustyTheKlown wrote:
And BTW I'm not anybody's crony, I'm just an aviation enthusiast and I don't even work in this industry or any branch of government. You seem to have become very angry when I pointed out the name of one of AMLO's cronies so it's understandably you are projecting your insecurities into me.
stburke wrote:Galwayman wrote:Wow looks brilliant - going to be the most impressive airport in North America easily
Pifft. Have you ever even been to LGA?
TheRedBaron wrote:...
The new airport is lower than the actual dumpster we have, the former water conservation ministry was quite pissed because the recycling plants that they bought for millions of dollars, were useless and could not be relocated, because the water recovered was being dumped to the lakebed where the NEW airport is being constructed, ...
PDPsol wrote:The latest presidential election polls place AMLO as Mexico's next president; the elections are a scant 2.5 weeks away. This apparently delusional man will rule the nation, representing Mexico's almost 125 million people, North America's second-largest after the U.S. (!) and attempt to slow-down, derail, or even stop the country's most important, most strategic infrastructure project in development. What risk is there of such an political outcome occurring next month in Mexico? What will happen to this project should that man win the election?
EPA001 wrote:KrustyTheKlown wrote:The Current MEX airport is as awful as LGA but with an extra 14M passengers/year. A new MEX is long overdue.
Will the new airport replace the current one or will the airports operate together serving Mexico City?
PDPsol wrote:The latest presidential election polls place AMLO as Mexico's next president; the elections are a scant 2.5 weeks away. This apparently delusional man will rule the nation, representing Mexico's almost 125 million people, North America's second-largest after the U.S. (!) and attempt to slow-down, derail, or even stop the country's most important, most strategic infrastructure project in development. What risk is there of such an political outcome occurring next month in Mexico? What will happen to this project should that man win the election?
Venatt wrote:PDPsol wrote:The latest presidential election polls place AMLO as Mexico's next president; the elections are a scant 2.5 weeks away. This apparently delusional man will rule the nation, representing Mexico's almost 125 million people, North America's second-largest after the U.S. (!) and attempt to slow-down, derail, or even stop the country's most important, most strategic infrastructure project in development. What risk is there of such an political outcome occurring next month in Mexico? What will happen to this project should that man win the election?
The TRUE REASON behind AMLO's heavy criticizing of the new airport is because one of his close friends José María Rioboó was NOT awarded the 52.6 million contract to build the airport runways, this was exposed by rival candidate Ricardo Anaya in the last presidential debate two weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djVe31CBtOc
Jose Maria Riobooó was directly awarded several contracts in Mexico City's when AMLO was mayor from 2000-2006 without a bid process.
Venatt wrote:PDPsol wrote:The latest presidential election polls place AMLO as Mexico's next president; the elections are a scant 2.5 weeks away. This apparently delusional man will rule the nation, representing Mexico's almost 125 million people, North America's second-largest after the U.S. (!) and attempt to slow-down, derail, or even stop the country's most important, most strategic infrastructure project in development. What risk is there of such an political outcome occurring next month in Mexico? What will happen to this project should that man win the election?
The TRUE REASON behind AMLO's heavy criticizing of the new airport is because one of his close friends José María Rioboó was NOT awarded the 52.6 million contract to build the airport runways, this was exposed by rival candidate Ricardo Anaya in the last presidential debate two weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djVe31CBtOc
Jose Maria Riobooó was directly awarded several contracts in Mexico City's when AMLO was mayor from 2000-2006 without a bid process.