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Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:01 am

As construction is underway in full swing for Beijing's new airport, I guess it's useful and instructive to have a thread devoted to this mega-modern project, which is scheduled to start operations in Oct 2019 upon completion of its first phase.

How is the construction progressing? How will the new airport compete and cooperate with PEK, the current hub airport of the Chinese capital, which ranks the world's second busiest airport for years? Do you think the twin-hub strategy envisioned by the policymakers for the city will work? What experience and lessons can it draw from other world cities' multi-airport systems?

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Adopting USA developed PRM SOIA procedures would help the capacity a ton. Especially on heavy smog days.
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Beijing new airport to test run in Oct 2019

Beijing's new international airport will start test operation in October 2019, local officials said.

Engineering projects will be finished in July 2019 and the test operation will start three months later, said contractor Beijing Construction Engineering Group.

The airport, located 46 km south of downtown Beijing, is designed to take pressure off the overcrowded Beijing Capital International Airport located in the northeastern suburbs. It is located on the border between Daxing district and Langfang, a city in Hebei province.

"Daxing district will prioritize the construction of the airport and the airport economic zone," said Wang Youguo, acting head of the district government.

Airport terminal buildings, covering an area of 313,000 square meters, will consist of a centerpiece and five arms resembling a phoenix spreading out its wings.

It will have four runways and accommodate 620,000 flights per year. It will be able to handle up to 100 million passengers and 4 million tons of cargo each year in the long run.

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^^Photo taken on Jan. 18, 2018 shows the construction site of Beijing's new airport in southern Daxing District in Beijing, capital of China. The new international airport is taking shape and roofed. The airport will take pressure off Beijing Capital International Airport in the northeastern suburbs and is expected to start trial operation in Oct. 2019. (Xinhua/Luo Xiaoguang)

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Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:40 am

Beijing Daxing:
Terminal Building: 780, 000 m2
Total area: 4,700 hectares
7 runways final stage

Mexico City:
Terminal Building: 743,000 m2
Total area: 4,432 hectares
6 runways final stage

Istanbul new airport:
Terminal Building: 680,000 m2
Total area: 7,659 hectares
6 runways final stage


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Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:47 am

Love the terminal design. Gets away from the toaster design that everyone seemed to be copying. Minimizes walking distance, eliminates the need for a inter-terminal train. Can't wait for this to open.
 
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:34 am

Nice short video clip

https://youtu.be/FQwA3qKUzGw

After two years of construction, Beijing's new international airport’s main terminal building has got its roof and glass. Now construction has started on the information and technology center (ITC) and the airport operations center (AOC). The new airport is expected to be put into use in the middle of 2019.

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Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:06 am

Looks massive and inspiring. When the Daxing airport was first brought up I even thought it was a waste of resources. Given how fast PEK grows I have to admit I was wrong.
 
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:52 am

I wonder how CZ and MU will make it work given CA will stay in PEK
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EK413 wrote:
Beijing Daxing:
Terminal Building: 780, 000 m2
Total area: 4,700 hectares
7 runways final stage

Mexico City:
Terminal Building: 743,000 m2
Total area: 4,432 hectares
6 runways final stage

Istanbul new airport:
Terminal Building: 680,000 m2
Total area: 7,659 hectares
6 runways final stage


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6 rwys or so seem to be the template configuration for any newly built modern airport in any metropolis these days

Dubai's DWC will have 5 rwys and cover an area of 14,000 hectares (35,000 acres) with a projected annual capacity of 12 million tonnes (12,000,000 long tons; 13,000,000 short tons) of freight and between 160 million and 260 million passengers.

PVG and LAX both have 5 rwys
ATL has plans to build a sixth rwy
 
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The pic above is what the master plan of Beijing new airport looks like upon full completion.

The three pairs of parallel lines in yellow and the line in red indicate the total 7 rwys of the airport (the red colored line representing West Rwy No. 3). The two terminal buildings are located in the north and south respectively.
 
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:50 pm

Amazing the size of these next gen airports. Can’t wait to fly to them!
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:54 pm

Thanks for the pictures. Very impressive.

I recall reading that OneWorld airlines would remain at Capital Airport. With closer cooperation between CZ and at least AA in the future, will this hold, or will AA and other OneWorld airlines eventually move over to the new airport?

Additionally, I think it'd be interesting to see how MU and CZ divide their international destinations from the new airport, especially in light of the "one airline, one airport pair" rule that seems to be in effect in China.
 
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That reminds me Berlin Brandenburg
 
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This map shows the geographic location of Beijing new airport in relation to Beijing downtown and other key localities with the distances indicated.

The new airport will feature a highly developed network of communications that encompasses a high-speed railyway with speed up to 350 km/h, an urban rail link with speed up to 170 km/h, and a bidirectional 8-lane expressway, in order to enable rapid transit between the airport and downtown Beijing.

Moreover, all the new railroads will be built underground below the terminal buildings when passing through the airport, so that seamless transit can be enabled at passengers' most convenience
 
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Here is a glimpse of the capacity split by alliance at PEK

It has long been settled CZ and MU, both Skyteam members, together with several lesser airlines, are going to move to the new airport where CZ/MU would operate as anchor tenants

According to officials in a recent interview by China News Weekly, preferential policies would lean towards airlines operating at the new airport in terms of traffic rights expansion, fee charges, etc in efforts to kick off the airport to good start
 
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Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:55 pm

The airport is only 85km away from Tianjin, the other major city. I’m sure it will draw a lot of traffic due to this proximity.
 
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CAPA has a recent noteworthy article titled "Tokyo Haneda Airport to become Asia's #1, overtaking Beijing Capital, as international grows"
It predicts that HND would most likely overtake PEK as Asia's No. 1 hub airport in 2020 due to the former's strong growth in the wake of Tokyo summer Olympics and the latter's inevitable decline in pax volume that would be split by Beijing new airport due for opening in 2019


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Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:34 am

Any ideas what the IATA code will be? I assume PEK will keep its code.
 
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Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:09 am

The naming of Beijing new airport seems anybody's guess in the Chinese public as the Chinese authorities haven't given any clue as to how the airport would be officially named by far. In Chinese press reports, the new airport is usually referred to simply as "Beijing New Airport" or "Capital Second Airport". Surely the IATA/ICAO codes for the new airport would be out only after the Chinese authorities have designated its official name.

If the customary practice of naming an airport by the name of the place where it is located is to be followed, Beijing new airport could be named Daxing Airport (Daxing is the name of the district that hosts part of the new airport (the airport straddles a boundary area between Beijing and the neighboring Hebei Province), thus DXG might be an option for its IATA code. Anyway, so far, no one knows for sure how the new airport would be named, particularly in wake of the domestic political climate these days
 
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Pengaea wrote:
I recall reading that OneWorld airlines would remain at Capital Airport. With closer cooperation between CZ and at least AA in the future, will this hold, or will AA and other OneWorld airlines eventually move over to the new airport?

Can't confirm other airlines, but AA will be moving to Daxing.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:12 pm

Crazy. Given the size of the aiport, I would have expected it to be built in a more phased approach - i.e. start with 2 rwys, then expand. But at least in terms of runways, it looks like they are executing a significant part of the Master Plan from day 1.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:44 pm

Looking at the photo from the air above, they could actually build a clone terminal just to the left of the first terminal with no problem. Connect the two terminals with an underground people mover.
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:45 am

As per statistics recently released by CAAC, PEK and the other minor airport NAY in Beijing handled 95.78 million and 5.95 million pax respectively in 2017, totaling 101.73 million, making the capital city the second largest Chinese aviation market exceeding the 100 million milestone (the other one is Shanghai, it's two airports PVG and SHA had a total pax throughput of 111.88 million in the same year)
 
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Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:57 am

I still find it amazing that PEK handles so many passengers. I was there in April last year and while it's busy, at didn't appear that busy, Terminal 1 was a ghost town after 9pm. Terminal 3 is huge and it's hard to gauge how busy it is, except for the nightmare that is security screening. However, it is busy through the night in T2 and T3 and no doubt that's where it makes up for the relative steady, if not busy traffic during the day.

The 2 airports will make photography there a lot harder though, PEK is pretty good for that at present.
 
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I still find it amazing that PEK handles so many passengers. I was there in April last year and while it's busy, at didn't appear that busy, Terminal 1 was a ghost town after 9pm. Terminal 3 is huge and it's hard to gauge how busy it is, except for the nightmare that is security screening. However, it is busy through the night in T2 and T3 and no doubt that's where it makes up for the relative steady, if not busy traffic during the day.

The 2 airports will make photography there a lot harder though, PEK is pretty good for that at present.


Maybe PEK could handle considerable more pax to exceed the 100 million mark a year alone, if more efficient use can be made of its all three terminals, as well as its runways, airspace and aircrafts

PEK has three parallel runways capable of independent operations.
C.f., DXB managed nearly 90 million pax with only two runways.

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Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:56 am

What a beautiful looking airport. Especially compared to what we have in NYC. As a mainly UA-flyer I will probably never set foot in this new airport but PEK isn't the worst facility in the world to be honest. Good for aviation, god for China. Well done!

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Maybe PEK could handle considerable more pax to exceed the 100 million mark a year alone, if more efficient use can be made of its all three terminals, as well as its runways, airspace and aircrafts

Definitely. I don't know exact numbers, but in China you get considerably less operations out of a runway than at an equivalent one in the West, due to overly restrictive ATC procedures and military-controlled airspace. Nonetheless, a city like Beijing will need a second airport.
Later on, the day China adapts its ATC, it will unlock a "bonus" capacity at both airports without having to build a single runway.
 
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Zoedyn wrote:
CAPA has a recent noteworthy article titled "Tokyo Haneda Airport to become Asia's #1, overtaking Beijing Capital, as international grows"
It predicts that HND would most likely overtake PEK as Asia's No. 1 hub airport in 2020 due to the former's strong growth in the wake of Tokyo summer Olympics and the latter's inevitable decline in pax volume that would be split by Beijing new airport due for opening in 2019


https://centreforaviation.com/insights/ ... ows-401552

Is DXB not considered to be in Asia by this publication? They handled 88 million PAX in 2017.
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:39 am

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Nice short video clip

https://youtu.be/FQwA3qKUzGw

After two years of construction, Beijing's new international airport’s main terminal building has got its roof and glass. Now construction has started on the information and technology center (ITC) and the airport operations center (AOC). The new airport is expected to be put into use in the middle of 2019.

EK413


The Germans should have hauled in the Chinese to build BER. The Chinese started later, are building an airport significantly larger and will have it operational about 12 months earlier.
 
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:14 am

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Definitely. I don't know exact numbers, but in China you get considerably less operations out of a runway than at an equivalent one in the West, due to overly restrictive ATC procedures and military-controlled airspace. Nonetheless, a city like Beijing will need a second airport.
Later on, the day China adapts its ATC, it will unlock a "bonus" capacity at both airports without having to build a single runway.


Very true. PEK is laid out with three widely-spaced parallel runways and could, in theory, accommodate three arriving aircraft simultaneously (like one sees at DFW, ORD or DEN in the US.) You almost never see that there, however - arrivals into PEK are slowed down and vectored meticulously to ensure there's never more than one aircraft landing at a time. All three runways are used, but arrivals are staggered between them. It's hugely inefficient, but the military calls the shots for Chinese airspace and that's what they want.

Even with the addition of Daxing and its four runways, there is still room to add another closely-spaced parallel runway at Capital, on the east side of the airport. You can see that taxiways on that side are stubbed to someday connect to it.
 
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:21 am

Incredible pictures.
Amazing how quickly they've built Daxing since the project was announced. Feels like it almost took no time.
DWC, on the other hand, has been in the works for well over a decade now, and open to passenger traffic for a number of years, but failed to attract or sustain any meaningful traffic.
 
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The CAAC has lately set up a special group headed by the general director of CAAC, i.e., the Organizing Taskforce for the Construction and Operations of Beijing New Airport in order to guide and coordinate the work of all stakeholders in a comprehensive manner, to ensure the new airport would be built and operated safely and efficiently
 
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Air China’s official responsible for marketing is reported to say that CA will take up 70% of slots at PEK following the opening of Beijing new airport next year. At present, its slot share is 30-40% as a home carrier with PEK
 
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Will the Capital Airport closed after the new airport open or only Star Alliance remains there?
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Definitely. I don't know exact numbers, but in China you get considerably less operations out of a runway than at an equivalent one in the West, due to overly restrictive ATC procedures and military-controlled airspace. Nonetheless, a city like Beijing will need a second airport.
Later on, the day China adapts its ATC, it will unlock a "bonus" capacity at both airports without having to build a single runway.


Very true. PEK is laid out with three widely-spaced parallel runways and could, in theory, accommodate three arriving aircraft simultaneously (like one sees at DFW, ORD or DEN in the US.) You almost never see that there, however - arrivals into PEK are slowed down and vectored meticulously to ensure there's never more than one aircraft landing at a time. All three runways are used, but arrivals are staggered between them. It's hugely inefficient, but the military calls the shots for Chinese airspace and that's what they want.

Even with the addition of Daxing and its four runways, there is still room to add another closely-spaced parallel runway at Capital, on the east side of the airport. You can see that taxiways on that side are stubbed to someday connect to it.


True. It’s been such a terrible underuse of three wonderful wide-spaced parallel rwys as the way they use them. The Chinese may have arguably the best aviation infrastructure in the world, yet obviously couldn’t come up with the good software and service to match up
 
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Zoedyn wrote:
CAPA has a recent noteworthy article titled "Tokyo Haneda Airport to become Asia's #1, overtaking Beijing Capital, as international grows"
It predicts that HND would most likely overtake PEK as Asia's No. 1 hub airport in 2020 due to the former's strong growth in the wake of Tokyo summer Olympics and the latter's inevitable decline in pax volume that would be split by Beijing new airport due for opening in 2019


https://centreforaviation.com/insights/ ... ows-401552

Is DXB not considered to be in Asia by this publication? They handled 88 million PAX in 2017.


Probably not.
To be fair, DXB as a two rwy airport would not have much room for further growth, as it is almost hitting capacity ceiling. Two rwys can only handle that much no matter how you improve efficiency. Unless Dubai starts to replace DXB with DWC when the latter is fully operational with far more rwys, it will be difficult for DXB to remain as a top airport in terms of pax throughput globally

By contrast, HND has seemingly unlimited expansion potential due to its location by the seaside
 
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Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:54 am

I wonder why they didn't first try to make use of PEK more efficient. E.g. to me it looks like the layout of the old terminals at PEK in particular is quite inefficient, and could be optimized for much higher traffic. Also seems to be a considerable amount of vacant land north of T3.
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It think the perfect terminal layout would be four kilometres long. Like basic simple sideways terminals parallel to the runways and taxiways (and some road inland). All that centralisation is wrong. Use the runway length to define terminals. So modular expansion would be easy. These long terminals could be connected by people movers or similar. Nobody needs a "central area".
 
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Some artistic renderings of Beijing new airport

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The pic above is what the master plan of Beijing new airport looks like upon full completion.
The three pairs of parallel lines in yellow and the line in red indicate the total 7 rwys of the airport (the red colored line representing West Rwy No. 3). The two terminal buildings are located in the north and south respectively.

Stylistically awsome ! Main Terminal is within a full circle with the equivalent of 4 full concourses ( 5, but two are used just above half capicity to the car driveways ).

Now, could some airport architecture/explotation specialist explain why should Terminal 2 have only 3 concourses in a similar space ? I understand they made their calculus & there is no need to add more capacity, but then either Terminal 1 is relatively overbuilt compared to T2 or they are clearly not planning on the efficiency DXB achieved with only two runways. WIth 7 runways, and considering the traffic of both cities Beijing & Tianjin, and everything in between, there is clearly room for 150 million pax a year given it time.

On a sidenote, if LCC take up in China, which airport would serve Beijing ? Daxing's projected T2 seems a good candidate, unless there is another terminal in store somewhere, as PEK will essentially be taken over by CA & some partner airlines.
 
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Zoedyn wrote:
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The pic above is what the master plan of Beijing new airport looks like upon full completion.
The three pairs of parallel lines in yellow and the line in red indicate the total 7 rwys of the airport (the red colored line representing West Rwy No. 3). The two terminal buildings are located in the north and south respectively.

Stylistically awsome ! Main Terminal is within a full circle with the equivalent of 4 full concourses ( 5, but two are used just above half capicity to the car driveways ).

Now, could some airport architecture/explotation specialist explain why should Terminal 2 have only 3 concourses in a similar space ? I understand they made their calculus & there is no need to add more capacity, but then either Terminal 1 is relatively overbuilt compared to T2 or they are clearly not planning on the efficiency DXB achieved with only two runways. WIth 7 runways, and considering the traffic of both cities Beijing & Tianjin, and everything in between, there is clearly room for 150 million pax a year given it time.

On a sidenote, if LCC take up in China, which airport would serve Beijing ? Daxing's projected T2 seems a good candidate, unless there is another terminal in store somewhere, as PEK will essentially be taken over by CA & some partner airlines.



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China creates "super hangar" to nest surging civil fleet for Beijing new airport
The hangar will have the longest span in Asia
The maintenance hangar for China Southern Airlines will set an Asian record. It will be 405 meters across, 100 meters deep, and have a clearance height of 30 meters.


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By contrast, HND has seemingly unlimited expansion potential due to its location by the seaside

Hardly.

It's already in heavily congested airspace; and AFAIK there's no plans for a 5th runway any time remotely soon, if ever.
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Zoedyn wrote:
By contrast, HND has seemingly unlimited expansion potential due to its location by the seaside

Hardly.

It's already in heavily congested airspace; and AFAIK there's no plans for a 5th runway any time remotely soon, if ever.


Physically, HND could certainly have more rwys built in the Tokyo Bay, though extremely costly
But institutionally regarding airspace management, HND suffers a lot indeed
 
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WIth 7 runways, and considering the traffic of both cities Beijing & Tianjin, and everything in between, there is clearly room for 150 million pax a year given it time.

On a sidenote, if LCC take up in China, which airport would serve Beijing ? Daxing's projected T2 seems a good candidate, unless there is another terminal in store somewhere, as PEK will essentially be taken over by CA & some partner airlines.


One rwy is reported to be owned and used by the military

LCCs, as planned by the Chinese authorities, are to be promoted for robust development at the new airport. For instance, China United Airlines, the first state-owned Chinese LCC and currently operating services exclusively at Beijing's minor southern Nanyuan Aiport, would move to the new airport
PEK has virtually zero-presence of LCC services
 
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Re: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)

Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:29 am

panam330 wrote:
Can't confirm other (oneworld) airlines, but AA will be moving to Daxing.


QF also has a relationship with MU and CZ so Daxing would make sense for them.

Amazed that CA still can't manage a daily PEK-SYD service.
 
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Re: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)

Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:23 am

Zoedyn wrote:
DWC wrote:
WIth 7 runways, and considering the traffic of both cities Beijing & Tianjin, and everything in between, there is clearly room for 150 million pax a year given it time.

On a sidenote, if LCC take up in China, which airport would serve Beijing ? Daxing's projected T2 seems a good candidate, unless there is another terminal in store somewhere, as PEK will essentially be taken over by CA & some partner airlines.


One rwy is reported to be owned and used by the military

LCCs, as planned by the Chinese authorities, are to be promoted for robust development at the new airport. For instance, China United Airlines, the first state-owned Chinese LCC and currently operating services exclusively at Beijing's minor southern Nanyuan Aiport, would move to the new airport
PEK has virtually zero-presence of LCC services

Is LCC op with tight fleet schedule really reasonable in China with its air space management and delays
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Re: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)

Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:52 am

moa999 wrote:
panam330 wrote:
Can't confirm other (oneworld) airlines, but AA will be moving to Daxing.


QF also has a relationship with MU and CZ so Daxing would make sense for them.

Amazed that CA still can't manage a daily PEK-SYD service.


Compared to PVG or CAN, PEK market seems to be a bit of a struggle at times, with what appears to be a stronger seasonal market.

QF at daily on SYD-PEK does seem quite agressive in the face of that trend, but it must be doing ok at this stage for them. With CA having it’s main hub there, it does seem odd that they are unable to maintain SYD or MEL daily year round though.

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