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LMFNINJA wrote:I am curious to see if Norwegian's fares will be that much lower than Air Canada/Westjet/Transat. YYZ is an expensive airport from which to operate so I can't see the fares being as cheap as they are from Providence or Stewart. Hopefully I am wrong but I'm sure the Canadian airlines will fight Norwegian tooth and nail.
Thenoflyzone wrote:LMFNINJA wrote:I am curious to see if Norwegian's fares will be that much lower than Air Canada/Westjet/Transat. YYZ is an expensive airport from which to operate so I can't see the fares being as cheap as they are from Providence or Stewart. Hopefully I am wrong but I'm sure the Canadian airlines will fight Norwegian tooth and nail.
I highly doubt they will serve YYZ. It will most likely be a secondary Canadian destination, YOW being top among them. Plus westbound from the UK to YYZ is pushing it on a 7M8. This is also why I didn't include YHM in my list.
jfk777 wrote:If they fly from Gatwick to Toronto(YYZ) why would they use a 737 MAX, logic would say Norwegian would fly a 787.
jfk777 wrote:
If they fly from Gatwick to Toronto(YYZ) why would they use a 737 MAX, logic would say Norwegian would fly a 787.
klm617 wrote:YWG-LGW 4 Weekly
vrefplus5 wrote:D8 operates B787, B738 & B78M
Thenoflyzone wrote:klm617 wrote:YWG-LGW 4 Weekly
D8 only operates 737s, and LGW-YWG is out of reach for the 7M8.
MartyMcFlyYYC wrote:I would like to see YYC to compete headon with Westjet's international service but I'm not holding my breath. Also a part of me just wants to see the Rald Dahl 787 Tail in person
ddp wrote:They have already contracted ground crew in Hamilton, and so far only Hamilton in Canada. So initially they will be launching from there.
vrefplus5 wrote:I aplogize. D8, DY & DU....who can keep track. D8 is only B738.
Thenoflyzone wrote:ddp wrote:They have already contracted ground crew in Hamilton, and so far only Hamilton in Canada. So initially they will be launching from there.
So i guess the only question that remains is where from.
Most likely DUB, as LGW-YHM is pushing the range of the 7M8.
EDI-YHM could also work.
vrefplus5 wrote:https://flightaware.com/live/fleet/NAX
Lots of B787’s in D8’s fleet.
peterinlisbon wrote:Norweigan is by far the best translatlantic airline I have ever flown. I wish them good luck on this route.
mcdu wrote:vrefplus5 wrote:https://flightaware.com/live/fleet/NAX
Lots of B787’s in D8’s fleet.
Huge problem with the one card Monte that Norwegian does with certificates. What planes are attached to each certificate to offshore employees and circumvent local labor rules is a sign that no one should trust a company that uses these tactics for travel.
PatrickZ80 wrote:Thenoflyzone wrote:ddp wrote:They have already contracted ground crew in Hamilton, and so far only Hamilton in Canada. So initially they will be launching from there.
So i guess the only question that remains is where from.
Most likely DUB, as LGW-YHM is pushing the range of the 7M8.
EDI-YHM could also work.
I think (and hope) it'll be Dublin. One of the benefits of Dublin is that it's APD-free, opposed to British airports where you pay APD. The British can always connect in Dublin to catch these flights.
skipness1E wrote:@patrickz80 why is every post you make about how bad APD is for the UK economy and why we should all self connect offshore? I don’t get the obsession you have with a tax in another country? It’s not as if growth has really fallen away or anything.....
YYZLGA wrote:I'm a big believer that PTP and FDF would work well on Norwegian to YUL and YYZ. If they're making American cities work, there's a much riper market in a country where millions of people speak French. AC yields are huge on their flights from YUL. Flying Saturday to Saturday at the end of this month, a round trip to PTP is $1536 on Rouge.
PatrickZ80 wrote:skipness1E wrote:@patrickz80 why is every post you make about how bad APD is for the UK economy and why we should all self connect offshore? I don’t get the obsession you have with a tax in another country? It’s not as if growth has really fallen away or anything.....
Because I do like Norwegian, they are one of my favourite airlines. They serve a good number of interesting destinations, but for me every destination served from the UK only is useless. In theory the APD should not apply to me if I only transfer in the UK, but theory and practice are two different things. The problem is that I cannot transfer in the UK because they don't fly from anywhere around here to the UK. My local airport is Amsterdam, but Norwegian doesn't fly Amsterdam - Gatwick.
The APD is making the tickets so much more expensive that they're simply not interesting anymore. There is a certain limit I'm willing to pay for a flight ticket, if it's more than that then I'm simply not flying. The APD is the main reason tickets become too expensive. I want to go to all those destinations that Norwegian flies to and I want to fly there on Norwegian, but it should also be affordable. As it is now, it's not.
I'm not saying they should serve all those destinations from Amsterdam. Sure, that would be convenient for me but I don't mind transfering. Lots of destinations are served from for example Copenhagen. And no surprise, the tickets out of Copenhagen are a whole lot cheaper than the tickets out of Gatwick. Now that's what I call interesting fares, that's in line with what I'm willing to pay.
I'm projecting my personal situation on people in the rest of Europe. Because, let's face it, most people live in an area that's not served by Norwegian from Gatwick. Often they live in an area not served by Norwegian at all, but they still want to fly Norwegian. This goes for the UK as well as mainland Europe. All of those people should be able to fly Norwegian, not just the few living near Gatwick and the few places in Europe served from Gatwick. They can't fly long haul from all those airports that are their local airports, but they can make sure those people can get to their long haul hubs. And looking from that point of view, Gatwick is just not a good choice.
Mangs wrote:mcdu wrote:vrefplus5 wrote:https://flightaware.com/live/fleet/NAX
Lots of B787’s in D8’s fleet.
Huge problem with the one card Monte that Norwegian does with certificates. What planes are attached to each certificate to offshore employees and circumvent local labor rules is a sign that no one should trust a company that uses these tactics for travel.
Wait, what?
They use their AOCs as tools to get traffic rights to and from different markets. If they could use one they most probably would.
Please provide a valid source for your claims regarding offshore employees and circumvent local labor rules.