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Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:21 pm
by Qatara340
Qatar Airways has announced flights to:

1 .Antayla, Turkey
2. Bodrum, Turkey
3. Cebu, Philippenes
4. Dangang, Vietnam
6. Davao, Philippenes
7. London Gatwick
8. Langkawi, Malaysia
9. Lisbon, Portugal
10. Luxembourg
11. Tallinn, Estonia
12. Valetta, Malta

Source: Qatar Airways Instragram Stories

Updated from earlier

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 6 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:29 pm
by neomax
All seem like good picks, I wish them the best success!

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:54 pm
by EightyFour
Perhaps foolishly, I was hoping for some more Scandinavia routes, still though, nice additions.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:54 pm
by gatibosgru
Surprised they haven't operated Lisbon yet, nice add.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:55 pm
by TC957
A return to LGW eventually ! start date ?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:56 pm
by directorguy
Really interesting to see them fly DOH LUX. There must be very little O&D traffic there.
The other routes (Turkey and SE Asia) can rely on more O&D.
Will any of these routes be seasonal?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:58 pm
by 716131
Qatara340 wrote:
Qatar Airways has announced flights to:

1 .Antayla, Turkey
2. Bodrum, Turkey
3. Cebu, Philippenes
4. Dangang, Vietnam
6. Davao, Philippenes
7. London Gatwick
8. Langkawi, Malaysia
9. Lisbon, Portugal
10. Luxembourg
11. Tallinn, Estonia
12. Valetta, Malta

Source: Qatar Airways Instragram Stories

Updated from earlier

Maybe soon to KNO, BTH as well. An Indonesian news source said that they will add more destinations to Indonesia.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:58 pm
by LGWGate49
TC957 wrote:
A return to LGW eventually ! start date ?


22 May according to this article:

http://buyingbusinesstravel.com/news/07 ... new-cities

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:58 pm
by EK413
Qatara340 wrote:
Qatar Airways has announced flights to:

1 .Antayla, Turkey
2. Bodrum, Turkey
3. Cebu, Philippenes
4. Dangang, Vietnam
6. Davao, Philippenes
7. London Gatwick
8. Langkawi, Malaysia
9. Lisbon, Portugal
10. Luxembourg
11. Tallinn, Estonia
12. Valetta, Malta

Source: Qatar Airways Instragram Stories

Updated from earlier


Congratulations to QR!

Disappointed OPO neglected yet again. I guess with EK ramping LIS double daily QR want to bring on some competition. Hopefully OPO is on the list perfect B788 route.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:05 pm
by LGWGate49
AAB citing greater cooperation and their shareholding with BA/IAG for the return to LGW:

https://www.businesstraveller.com/busin ... n-gatwick/

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:05 pm
by Luisvalero
What about Malaga?????

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:06 pm
by TC957
Isn't the new Vietnam route supposed to be Da Nang, not Dangang ?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:06 pm
by EK413
LGWGate49 wrote:
TC957 wrote:
A return to LGW eventually ! start date ?


22 May according to this article:

http://buyingbusinesstravel.com/news/07 ... new-cities


There’s also a dedicated discussion thread.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1388399

EK413

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:12 pm
by QuawerAir
Qatara340 wrote:
Qatar Airways has announced flights to:

9. Lisbon, Portugal
11. Tallinn, Estonia

Source: Qatar Airways Instragram Stories

Updated from earlier

Lisbon was just a matter of time. I expected to see Riga before Tallinn, even though AirBaltic serves Abu Dhabi and has a codeshare agreement with Etihad Airways. Regarding

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:18 pm
by neomax
I wonder if QR will overtake TK as the airline with the most destinations at some point in the future. They are growing faster than EK and definitely faster than TK. I think it's only a matter of time now.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:21 pm
by Kashmon
they were smart to join OW,
by being the smallest alliance they can occupy more markets and create more new connections for OW passengers
the marginal gain QR provides to OW and vice versa is greater than the marginal gain TK provides star and vice versa

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:22 pm
by afterburner
Qatara340 wrote:
Qatar Airways has announced flights to:

4. Dangang, Vietnam


Do you mean Da Nang?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:22 pm
by Blerg
Malta is very interesting. We'll have to see if Emirates reacts. For well over a decade they flew to Malta via Larnaca. I think they'll lose a lot of customers unless they introduce at least a few non-stop flights.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:25 pm
by TWA772LR
neomax wrote:
I wonder if QR will overtake TK as the airline with the most destinations at some point in the future. They are growing faster than EK and definitely faster than TK. I think it's only a matter of time now.

Given the blockade, could this be QRs attempt at Frontier-ing their network? I.e. throwing darts at a wall to see what sticks?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:26 pm
by FlyingHollander
QuawerAir wrote:
I expected to see Riga before Tallinn, even though AirBaltic serves Abu Dhabi and has a codeshare agreement with Etihad Airways.

Like you said, TLL doesn't have any routes to the ME or Asia, RIX has the AUH flight. Also Estonia is wealthier and Tallinn has more tourist draw than Riga.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:55 pm
by Obzerva
FlyingHollander wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
I expected to see Riga before Tallinn, even though AirBaltic serves Abu Dhabi and has a codeshare agreement with Etihad Airways.

Like you said, TLL doesn't have any routes to the ME or Asia, RIX has the AUH flight. Also Estonia is wealthier and Tallinn has more tourist draw than Riga.


Also kind of surprised by TLL, yes it's a tourist drawcard, but wouldn't have thought it would be command yield.
At a few days a week on an A320 would be the most you could do, I would think.

Honestly thought if QR was to start TLL it would be coupled as part of a tag from VNO.
(again using the logic of RIX having a middle eastern service to AUH, so QR should pick the opposites of RIX)

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:58 pm
by neomax
TWA772LR wrote:
neomax wrote:
I wonder if QR will overtake TK as the airline with the most destinations at some point in the future. They are growing faster than EK and definitely faster than TK. I think it's only a matter of time now.

Given the blockade, could this be QRs attempt at Frontier-ing their network? I.e. throwing darts at a wall to see what sticks?


QR definitely has a better strategy than F9, but the biggest advantage of DOH and DXB is that the sheer volume and scale of the traffic going through a single hub is so massive that it almost forms a "superdart" that sticks wherever it is thrown. This is a big reason why EK and QR have been so successful. The theory with their business model is that no one route by itself can support the operation but the global reach is so insanely massive that QR/EK can pretty much go anywhere one could possibly need to go on the pure basis of having such a large volume of people going to so many different places that other factors such as seasonality, standalone viability, yield, LF, volume, demand that would normally matter almost become irrelevant because it will never be a problem beyond a certain threshold of superconnectivity which both QR and EK have surpassed. So it really doesn't matter how random a given destination is, because people in smaller cities are almost always going to bigger cities, so even if a random city in Turkey is added, chances are that at least one person on that flight is going to Sydney, Hong Kong, India, etc. But everyone on the flight is going to DOH, and regardless of what their next destination is, they can get there with just one stop in DOH and there will always be enough people going to the big cities to sustain that feeder flight to DOH.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:43 pm
by ahj2000
How many destinations (outside of the US) have they announced but not yet served?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:23 pm
by pabloeing
¿When OPO for some middle east airline?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:45 pm
by PerfectGriffin
Amazing. Go QR! I always support the underdog and what the rest of Qatar's neighbours have done to QR is just plain unfair. I guess EY doing so poorly whilst QR grows so fast is just karma.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:52 pm
by PayaLebar
Luisvalero wrote:
What about Malaga?????


Why not Sevilla?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:53 pm
by winGl3t
ahj2000 wrote:
How many destinations (outside of the US) have they announced but not yet served?


I'm aware of GIG and SCL. Probably related to the airspace ban

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:25 pm
by BuildingMyBento
Waiting for EK to announce DVO so as to connect the pax onwards to Saudi Arabia...something QR can't currently do.

Or, perhaps EK will announce SUB?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:26 pm
by OGLOBAL
Luxembourg , Tallin, Da nang and Davao really surprise me i don't know how those will work out but i wish them success for thinking outside the box

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:31 pm
by toxtethogrady
I'm surprised to not see San Francisco on the list. Unless that is a previous announcement.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:33 pm
by Ytraveller
ahj2000 wrote:
How many destinations (outside of the US) have they announced but not yet served?

From here: http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/ ... ions-2018/

Even if Qatar Airways did give a full list of new routes they were launching, we couldn’t really trust it, since the airline is notorious for announcing new destinations and then not following through on the service.

For example, last April Qatar Airways announced flights to San Francisco, Las Vegas, Cardiff, Malaga, Mykonos, Accra, Kiev, Lisbon, Prague, Chittagong, Mombasa and Abidjan.

How did the airline do?

* The San Francisco, Las Vegas, Accra, Mombasa, Abidjan, and Chittagong flights never happened (well, unless what they intended all along was a Qatar Airways-coded 8hr30min overnight bus ride to Dhaka — see below)
* The Cardiff, Lisbon, and Malaga flights are being “recycled” again this year as “never before announced” routes


I will add that the following routes have either started or a firm start date has been announced: Mykonos, Kiev, Prague

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:34 pm
by Kikko19
Obzerva wrote:
FlyingHollander wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
I expected to see Riga before Tallinn, even though AirBaltic serves Abu Dhabi and has a codeshare agreement with Etihad Airways.

Like you said, TLL doesn't have any routes to the ME or Asia, RIX has the AUH flight. Also Estonia is wealthier and Tallinn has more tourist draw than Riga.


Also kind of surprised by TLL, yes it's a tourist drawcard, but wouldn't have thought it would be command yield.
At a few days a week on an A320 would be the most you could do, I would think.

Honestly thought if QR was to start TLL it would be coupled as part of a tag from VNO.
(again using the logic of RIX having a middle eastern service to AUH, so QR should pick the opposites of RIX)

Why so? TLL had 3 x fra and 2.x much on lh. Even tk planned 2.x day but now has only one. Daily to doh won't be exaggerated IMHO. Qr will steal Eastward traffic that before was monopoly of Ay and sk. I see also further growth of Su to connect to Asia.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:35 pm
by turk223
I'm still waiting for BOG...

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:50 pm
by RJNUT
turk223 wrote:
I'm still waiting for BOG...


Wouldnt BOG have to be a tag-on due to the elevation?

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:15 pm
by sassiciai
LUX is a surprise for me

Qatar already serves BRU, CDG, FRA, and other destinations not too far away. I am relatively price-conscious in my booking decisions, but it would have to be an absolutely rock-bottom fare LUX - MNL via DOH to get me off flights from BRU! Like €200 less return, given the hassle and time to get from home (close to BRU) by train to LUX, or on the E411 with parking issues. Even as I write this, I am not sure that €200 would be enough to tempt me to try!

Also the threat to me that it will likely be a 787 with 9-abreast in the area I can afford to sit in means that it is not a great choice for me!

The LUX area is not a high-density population area, and not all that many big cities nearby in neighbouring France or Germany either!

Oh well, what do I know! Good luck to them, I say!

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:23 pm
by SCQ83
AGP is already for sale:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ns-in-s18/

Doha – Malaga 04JUN18 – 30SEP18 4 weekly Boeing 787-8, Subject to Government Approval
QR155 DOH0120 – 0805AGP 788 x246
QR156 AGP0915 – 1715DOH 788 x246


Saudia is also resuming flights to Málaga this summer, and Kuwait Airways had announced flights... so maybe AGP is getting 3 ME carriers in one summer... not bad. Interestingly none of them with Dubai!

I am surprised with Air Italy, they haven't announced any beach route there... Catania, Palermo or Olbia, for instance. Maybe in the future other destinations like Dubrovnik or Ibiza could work for them.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:02 pm
by efpmeneses
They talk about opening Lisbon for som many time, that i dnt get too much expectation about that.
I'll wait for the schedule to be available and the booking opened, and then i will believe.
They even anounced that they would open Lisbon in the last 2 years and nothing happened...

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:22 pm
by Nami
I wonder what is QR's current longest time between first announcement and actual launch? For example HEL was announced in the fall of 2011, but took until October 2016 to start...

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:28 pm
by aldrigsomandre
Istanbul (2), Ankara, Hatay, Adana, Antalya, Bodrum. Seven destinations in Turkey. Impressive.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:29 pm
by passyflyer
As I live very close to LUX this is good news for me. LUX-DOH is 2500 nm, so I guess they will use their A320 or maybe the new 321neo when they arrive. I really can't see a 787-8 or anything bigger at LUX, the airport is not ready for aircraft of that size.

Turkish Airlines serves LUX already 5 times a week, I guess this will hurt them as I don't know if the market is large enough for both of them. They use mostly 737-800 but from time to time also a A321 or a 737-900 which shows I think that demand is there. Last year they even came once with an A330 (a video can be found on YouTube), but the market is really too small I guess for Qatar Airways to use an 787 even if this service turns out to be only twice or three times a week.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:13 pm
by marcogr12
Qatar is also starting a direct DOH-SKG 4w in 3 weeks time..

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:13 am
by 49Paralell
Lisbon, Portugal, wow. I did not know that there would be a customer base there. Then again EK is flying there daily.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:29 am
by pasu129
Yet we are still waiting for DOH-LAS to start.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:54 am
by 787fan8
pasu129 wrote:
Yet we are still waiting for DOH-LAS to start.

I think it would be hilarious if EK announced LAS just to rub it in QR’s face, but what’s funny though is that that actually could happen, given the fact that EK is starting to go back into expansion mode now.

Besides that though, I expect we’ll be kept waiting for SFO to start as well.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:01 am
by lightsaber
LGWGate49 wrote:
AAB citing greater cooperation and their shareholding with BA/IAG for the return to LGW:

https://www.businesstraveller.com/busin ... n-gatwick/

Has QR (and EY) started to publish audited financial statements?

As an enthusiast, I'm happy for more connectivity. As someone who believes in a true free (and unsubsidised) markets, I really question QR's finances.

Notice I didn't include EK.

Lightsaber

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:01 am
by AIRTRANSAT767
I would like to see QR in Toronto with B77W or B787 again A350

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:55 am
by planemanofnz
Kashmon wrote:
they were smart to join OW, by being the smallest alliance they can occupy more markets and create more new connections for OW passengers ...

That's cute, but there is already a OW presence at all of these cities (e.g. BA at LUX and CX at CEB), except DVO. OW doesn't need QR - no more is this evidenced than through the fact that there are still no OW members codesharing on many of QR's flights, like DOH - AKL. I suspect that many OW flyers would avoid a DOH transit like a plague, when they have HKG or LHR T5, greater frequencies, as well as more equidistant routings.

Cheers,

C.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:11 am
by Freshside3
sassiciai wrote:
LUX is a surprise for me

Qatar already serves BRU, CDG, FRA, and other destinations not too far away. I am relatively price-conscious in my booking decisions, but it would have to be an absolutely rock-bottom fare LUX - MNL via DOH to get me off flights from BRU! Like €200 less return, given the hassle and time to get from home (close to BRU) by train to LUX, or on the E411 with parking issues. Even as I write this, I am not sure that €200 would be enough to tempt me to try!

Also the threat to me that it will likely be a 787 with 9-abreast in the area I can afford to sit in means that it is not a great choice for me!

The LUX area is not a high-density population area, and not all that many big cities nearby in neighbouring France or Germany either!

Oh well, what do I know! Good luck to them, I say!

I presume that this has something to do with freight. CargoLux does do a lot of freight business out of LUX. My guess that they can connect LUX with all the odd destinations in Australia, India, etc.....and at the same time, get some freight over to markets that CargoLux doesn't fly to.

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:15 am
by Freshside3
marcogr12 wrote:
Qatar is also starting a direct DOH-SKG 4w in 3 weeks time..

Excellent choice! Lots of people that go between Greece and Australia.......no Australian carriers that go to Greece.........A3 has no wide-bodies............connections via Asia are next to nothing.....and not everyone neccessarily needs to go to ATH.....plus you have several choices of Australian airports. Perfect!

Re: Qatar Airways Announces 12 new destinations

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:36 am
by Ferryflight
Argh, Tallin over Gothenburg?

Come on!!!!