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Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:02 am

A quite strange sight for plane spotters as a 787 suffered a nose gear collapse at Grant County International Airport.

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:18 am

That’ll leave a mark.
Remind me to send a thank you note to Mr. Boeing.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:23 am

If I'm not mistaken that's N507BJ (l/n 11) that's been in storage for some time.
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:54 am

That'll buff out.
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:55 am

What is or was the plan for this aircraft? Was it going to be delivered to a customer, or was it just sitting on Boeings hand?
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:17 am

scbriml wrote:
If I'm not mistaken that's N507BJ (l/n 11) that's been in storage for some time.

What a let down!

I guess it's not just military transports that can kneel.
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:33 am

Did someone forget to pin the gear? If they forgot to put the pin in the nose gear, eventually the hydraulic pressure will be gone and well this could happen.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:56 am

Somebody out of a job
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:58 am

Assuming it was a slow and gentle drop, how much of the plane's weight is on those engines?
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:22 am

Wow, one of the "terrible teens" that were overweight and nobody wanted to buy. Sad ending for it perhaps.
Part of the bottom front had to have caved in I'm sure.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:23 am

Tarp or something covering the forward right fuselage. Was the R1 door ripped off?
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:26 am

the AOG team will get some good practice fixing that :)
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:27 am

A little speed tape and that puppy is fit for flight....
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:35 am

I'll be interested to know if the fuse suffered and if it did how they're gonna fit it.

Simple enough on a metal plane but it may be more complex that the Ethiopian patch.

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:39 am

^^^^

What???


I bet there is barely a scratch on it. It’ll get inspected and checked out and not require much.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:01 am

Were those early engines also terrible teens. Otherwise why would they still be on the plane?
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:05 am

The 787 wanted to kneel like an AN124!
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:47 am

Humn, on a serious note now that I am looking at it...

Does it even look like the nose hit the ground?

Or is the plane resting on the engines which took the biggest hit?
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:01 am

MaksFly wrote:
Humn, on a serious note now that I am looking at it...

Does it even look like the nose hit the ground?

Or is the plane resting on the engines which took the biggest hit?

If you look close daylight can be seen under the forward fuselage. So either the engines took the hit or they have started raising the nose but I doubt it as they would use a crane with a strap around the fuselage which is not there. :old:
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:06 am

Newbiepilot wrote:
Did someone forget to pin the gear? If they forgot to put the pin in the nose gear, eventually the hydraulic pressure will be gone and well this could happen.

Unless Boeing does something completely different. That's not how it works...

There are "Over Center" down locks that prevent a gear from just collapsing. Considering the position of the plane up against the building, my guess is maintenance was being performed on the landing gear system which included the gear being selected up and the nose gear was not pinned properly or the pin failed allowing the gear to retract.
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:19 am

Dreamliner fell asleep on its feet.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:26 am

KarelXWB wrote:
A quite strange sight for plane spotters as a 787 suffered a nose gear collapse at Grant County International Airport.

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:30 am

flightsimer wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
Did someone forget to pin the gear? If they forgot to put the pin in the nose gear, eventually the hydraulic pressure will be gone and well this could happen.

Unless Boeing does something completely different. That's not how it works...

There are "Over Center" down locks that prevent a gear from just collapsing. Considering the position of the plane up against the building, my guess is maintenance was being performed on the landing gear system which included the gear being selected up and the nose gear was not pinned properly or the pin failed allowing the gear to retract.


You are right that maintenance could cause it if the gear isn’t pinned.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:32 am

Nothing speed tape & buff won’t fix...

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:51 am

That'll buff right out
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:01 am

It's not the first 787 to suffer a gear collapse in similar circumstances. One of Ethiopian Airlines' examples had the same thing happen, with human fault being the reason. Took a few weeks for it to be repaired and be back in service. I think it was ET-ATH.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:11 am

Looks like someone's insurance company gets to buy some new nacelles.

This aircraft belongs to the South Korean government and has been in outfitting for quite a while. I wonder if they were testing systems in preparation for a test flight?

Or maybe it's all Kim Jong Un's dastardly handiwork. :scratchchin:
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:53 am

seabosdca wrote:
Looks like someone's insurance company gets to buy some new nacelles.

This aircraft belongs to the South Korean government and has been in outfitting for quite a while. I wonder if they were testing systems in preparation for a test flight?

Or maybe it's all Kim Jong Un's dastardly handiwork. :scratchchin:

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:58 pm

No news on the cause of this incident?

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:30 am

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That'll buff right out


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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:25 am

Sooner787 wrote:
the AOG team will get some good practice fixing that :)

What makes you think they need practice?
Its not the first time this has happened.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:41 pm

That'll buff right out

(EDIT: DOH just noticed GE90man beat me to the same quote, LOL)
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:14 pm

bugsbegone wrote:
That'll buff right out

(EDIT: DOH just noticed GE90man beat me to the same quote, LOL)


As did NearMiss in reply #4.
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Just noticing now the scissorlift near the pit.. I wonder if it made contact with the cargo door and whether there's any damage there as well
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:58 pm

Any updates on this? Damage? Or if it’s back on it’s nose gear.

Wes...
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:55 am

A colleague of mine works at another location at the airport. I told him about this when this thread was new and asked if he could drive around and take a look. He tried and I think he said it was back up on its nose gear. But I could be wrong...
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Sun May 27, 2018 11:11 pm

Any news?
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 12:35 am

I'm almost to afraid to ask, But is that a write off ????? :-)
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 3:27 am

Not a write off, but a Boeing AOG repair.
My understanding is that it was a misplaced NLG pin.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 3:54 am

Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 4:30 am

QuarkFly wrote:
Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!


This model is a lousy design indeed, as largely proved, so worthy to ask.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 4:42 am

Jayafe wrote:
QuarkFly wrote:
Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!


This model is a lousy design indeed, as largely proved, so worthy to ask.


Jeez, we get it. You hate Boeings. Give it a rest already.
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 4:48 am

ClipperYankee wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
QuarkFly wrote:
Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!


This model is a lousy design indeed, as largely proved, so worthy to ask.


Jeez, we get it. You hate Boeings. Give it a rest already.


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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 4:49 am

Jayafe wrote:
QuarkFly wrote:
Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!


This model is a lousy design indeed, as largely proved, so worthy to ask.


Nearly 1400 orders and lousy design?

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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 5:56 am

Jayafe wrote:
QuarkFly wrote:
Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!


This model is a lousy design indeed, as largely proved, so worthy to ask.

We all get it, you are a bitter, insufferable troll. Why bother being on this forum if you have nothing meaningful to contribute?
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Mon May 28, 2018 6:39 am

An aircraft with a registration of N507BJ (l/n 11) on its knees. The jokes just write themselves.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:10 pm

Skybillie wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
the AOG team will get some good practice fixing that :)

What makes you think they need practice?
Its not the first time this has happened.

Remember this?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-33985615
The 787 is a composite airplane that AOG has probably close to zero experience in. The ELT repair was not a traditional simple bolt it together easy repair like Boeing claimed repairs on the 787 would be. The repair part was cut out a production body section which made that donor section useless for production use.

With any luck, since there isn't very much weight on the nose gear, the nose gear doors and possibly the lower engine cowling's probably prevented serious damage to the nose section. Serious damage to the nose, no problem! We'll just cut a repair part out of a production nose section and scrap the rest of it.
 
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Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:29 pm

Those darn Plastic Airplanes :old: :rotfl:
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