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Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:02 am
by KarelXWB
A quite strange sight for plane spotters as a 787 suffered a nose gear collapse at Grant County International Airport.

Image
https://twitter.com/ty_how/status/971888989312401408

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:18 am
by lavalampluva
That’ll leave a mark.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:23 am
by scbriml
If I'm not mistaken that's N507BJ (l/n 11) that's been in storage for some time.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:54 am
by NearMiss
That'll buff out.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:55 am
by SteinarN
What is or was the plan for this aircraft? Was it going to be delivered to a customer, or was it just sitting on Boeings hand?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:17 am
by Revelation
scbriml wrote:
If I'm not mistaken that's N507BJ (l/n 11) that's been in storage for some time.

What a let down!

I guess it's not just military transports that can kneel.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:33 am
by Newbiepilot
Did someone forget to pin the gear? If they forgot to put the pin in the nose gear, eventually the hydraulic pressure will be gone and well this could happen.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:56 am
by HoboJoe
Somebody out of a job

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:58 am
by BHM
Assuming it was a slow and gentle drop, how much of the plane's weight is on those engines?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:22 am
by B764er
Wow, one of the "terrible teens" that were overweight and nobody wanted to buy. Sad ending for it perhaps.
Part of the bottom front had to have caved in I'm sure.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:23 am
by arcticcruiser
Tarp or something covering the forward right fuselage. Was the R1 door ripped off?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:26 am
by Sooner787
the AOG team will get some good practice fixing that :)

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:27 am
by HNL
A little speed tape and that puppy is fit for flight....

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:35 am
by 69bug
I'll be interested to know if the fuse suffered and if it did how they're gonna fit it.

Simple enough on a metal plane but it may be more complex that the Ethiopian patch.

bug

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:39 am
by BlatantEcho
^^^^

What???


I bet there is barely a scratch on it. It’ll get inspected and checked out and not require much.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:01 am
by frmrCapCadet
Were those early engines also terrible teens. Otherwise why would they still be on the plane?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:05 am
by ChrisFallon77
The 787 wanted to kneel like an AN124!

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:47 am
by MaksFly
Humn, on a serious note now that I am looking at it...

Does it even look like the nose hit the ground?

Or is the plane resting on the engines which took the biggest hit?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:01 am
by NWAROOSTER
MaksFly wrote:
Humn, on a serious note now that I am looking at it...

Does it even look like the nose hit the ground?

Or is the plane resting on the engines which took the biggest hit?

If you look close daylight can be seen under the forward fuselage. So either the engines took the hit or they have started raising the nose but I doubt it as they would use a crane with a strap around the fuselage which is not there. :old:

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:06 am
by flightsimer
Newbiepilot wrote:
Did someone forget to pin the gear? If they forgot to put the pin in the nose gear, eventually the hydraulic pressure will be gone and well this could happen.

Unless Boeing does something completely different. That's not how it works...

There are "Over Center" down locks that prevent a gear from just collapsing. Considering the position of the plane up against the building, my guess is maintenance was being performed on the landing gear system which included the gear being selected up and the nose gear was not pinned properly or the pin failed allowing the gear to retract.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:19 am
by kjeld0d
Dreamliner fell asleep on its feet.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:26 am
by Runway28L
KarelXWB wrote:
A quite strange sight for plane spotters as a 787 suffered a nose gear collapse at Grant County International Airport.

Image
https://twitter.com/ty_how/status/971888989312401408

The group of individuals to the right are likely contemplating the fate of their current employment. :duck:

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:30 am
by Newbiepilot
flightsimer wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
Did someone forget to pin the gear? If they forgot to put the pin in the nose gear, eventually the hydraulic pressure will be gone and well this could happen.

Unless Boeing does something completely different. That's not how it works...

There are "Over Center" down locks that prevent a gear from just collapsing. Considering the position of the plane up against the building, my guess is maintenance was being performed on the landing gear system which included the gear being selected up and the nose gear was not pinned properly or the pin failed allowing the gear to retract.


You are right that maintenance could cause it if the gear isn’t pinned.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:32 am
by EK413
Nothing speed tape & buff won’t fix...

EK413

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:51 am
by GE90man
That'll buff right out

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:01 am
by berari
It's not the first 787 to suffer a gear collapse in similar circumstances. One of Ethiopian Airlines' examples had the same thing happen, with human fault being the reason. Took a few weeks for it to be repaired and be back in service. I think it was ET-ATH.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:11 am
by seabosdca
Looks like someone's insurance company gets to buy some new nacelles.

This aircraft belongs to the South Korean government and has been in outfitting for quite a while. I wonder if they were testing systems in preparation for a test flight?

Or maybe it's all Kim Jong Un's dastardly handiwork. :scratchchin:

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:53 am
by juliuswong
seabosdca wrote:
Looks like someone's insurance company gets to buy some new nacelles.

This aircraft belongs to the South Korean government and has been in outfitting for quite a while. I wonder if they were testing systems in preparation for a test flight?

Or maybe it's all Kim Jong Un's dastardly handiwork. :scratchchin:

Additional information: The 787 will be operated by Korean Air Lines on behalf of South Korea Government. It will replace the current B747-4B5 10001 (former civilian registration was HL7465), which lease will run out by April 2020, the 787 will arrive in time for replace the Queen of the Skies.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:58 pm
by notaxonrotax
No news on the cause of this incident?

No Tax On Rotax

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:30 am
by IPFreely
GE90man wrote:
That'll buff right out


I can fix it. My dad's a tv repairman. He's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:25 am
by Skybillie
Sooner787 wrote:
the AOG team will get some good practice fixing that :)

What makes you think they need practice?
Its not the first time this has happened.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:41 pm
by bugsbegone
That'll buff right out

(EDIT: DOH just noticed GE90man beat me to the same quote, LOL)

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:14 pm
by barney captain
bugsbegone wrote:
That'll buff right out

(EDIT: DOH just noticed GE90man beat me to the same quote, LOL)


As did NearMiss in reply #4.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:27 pm
by diverted
Just noticing now the scissorlift near the pit.. I wonder if it made contact with the cargo door and whether there's any damage there as well

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:58 pm
by wezgulf3
Any updates on this? Damage? Or if it’s back on it’s nose gear.

Wes...

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:55 am
by smithbs
A colleague of mine works at another location at the airport. I told him about this when this thread was new and asked if he could drive around and take a look. He tried and I think he said it was back up on its nose gear. But I could be wrong...

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:11 pm
by EduardoL
Any news?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:35 am
by thaiflyer
I'm almost to afraid to ask, But is that a write off ????? :-)

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:27 am
by 7673mech
Not a write off, but a Boeing AOG repair.
My understanding is that it was a misplaced NLG pin.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:54 am
by QuarkFly
Would be a lousy designed aircraft if it was a write-off due to a frickin LG pin !!

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 6:39 am
by manny
An aircraft with a registration of N507BJ (l/n 11) on its knees. The jokes just write themselves.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:10 pm
by stratclub
Skybillie wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
the AOG team will get some good practice fixing that :)

What makes you think they need practice?
Its not the first time this has happened.

Remember this?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-33985615
The 787 is a composite airplane that AOG has probably close to zero experience in. The ELT repair was not a traditional simple bolt it together easy repair like Boeing claimed repairs on the 787 would be. The repair part was cut out a production body section which made that donor section useless for production use.

With any luck, since there isn't very much weight on the nose gear, the nose gear doors and possibly the lower engine cowling's probably prevented serious damage to the nose section. Serious damage to the nose, no problem! We'll just cut a repair part out of a production nose section and scrap the rest of it.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:29 pm
by TheRedBaron
Those darn Plastic Airplanes :old: :rotfl:

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:33 am
by Erebus
Just came across this. Apologies if it had been posted elsewhere before.

https://youtu.be/kG43FcgnA8g - Raising a Dreamliner

Looks like the nose gear held up alright and they were able to tow it away just fine.

I was looking at the strange placement of the UHaul Trucks at the beginning. Were they intentionally brought in to conceal the embarrassing sight? :lol:

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:18 am
by Spacepope
The airframe in question, according to Skyliner,has been ferried to SBD for Lufthansa Technik. Good to see it airborne again, but is this for another step of the conversion process?

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:20 am
by 7673mech
Spacepope wrote:
The airframe in question, according to Skyliner,has been ferried to SBD for Lufthansa Technik. Good to see it airborne again, but is this for another step of the conversion process?


Saw it the other day - paint work. It will then return to Moses Lake I was told.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:03 am
by AirlineCritic
Did it really take so many months???

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:38 pm
by Lingon
AirlineCritic wrote:
Did it really take so many months???


Maybe the first months went by while settling who was going to foot the bill...

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:24 pm
by SEPilot
The idea of cutting a piece out of a complete barrel for a repair is nowhere near as extreme as it is being painted. First, the barrel itself is not stuffed; what goes into it is probably far more expensive than the empty barrel. And that is the only way of getting the exact repair piece, and is much less expensive than making a special mold to fabricate it. Expect Airbus to do the same should an A350 ever need a similar repair. Boeing could keep the remainder of the barrel in case another 787 needs a similar repair in a different spot, but they probably consider that to be unlikely and so won’t keep it.

Re: Boeing 787 suffers nose gear collapse

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:44 pm
by JohnJ
This plane did a transcon flight from Moses Lake to Westover, MA yesterday.