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Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:39 am

It seemed that Thai Air Asia Flight FD761 from Macau (MFM) to Bangkok Don Mueang diverted to Udon Thani airport (approximately 1 hour flying from Bangkok)

The flight operated by one of their newest A320Neo (start service on Jan 2018), Registration HS-CBG. No formal news as of now (just word from Maintenance crew at Udon Thani that engine fire indicator cause this diversion). Aircraft currently on ground.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/fd761
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:56 am

That would be a LEAP powered NEO.
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:58 am

Is this a P & W or CFM powered NEO?
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:05 am

cv990Coronado wrote:
Is this a P & W or CFM powered NEO?

AFAIK all Air Asia A320neo's use the CFM Leap engine. So it would appear to be unrelated to the recent grounding of indian P&W-powered A320s.
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:16 am

It's CFM International LEAP-1A engine, according to Thai AirAsia News release

https://www.airasia.com/th/en/press-rel ... 0-neo.page
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:29 am

Oh my God ! All NEO aircraft have to be grounded immediately
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:21 am

Several Thai news agency has confirmed the cause as engine fire. Sorry, they are all in Thai. (From the photo, the fire has been suppressed prior to landing)

https://news1live.com/detail.aspx?NewsID=9610000025178
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:37 am

imthedreamliner wrote:
Oh my God ! All NEO aircraft have to be grounded immediately


Classic from a fan of the Binliner :D
737-300/400/500 ... are NOT classics :)
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:26 pm

imthedreamliner wrote:
Oh my God ! All NEO aircraft have to be grounded immediately

Then by that logic the all 737 MAX should be grounded too.
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:01 am

report on avherald

http://avherald.com/h?article=4b6134c2&opt=0

A Thai AirAsia Airbus A320-200N, registration HS-CBG performing flight FD-761 from Macau (Macau) to Bangkok Don Muang (Thailand) with 140 people on board, was enroute at FL340 about 90nm westsouthwest of Haikou (China) when the crew received a fire indication for the left hand engine (CFM Leap), shut the engine down and activated the fire suppression. The aircraft drifted down to FL240 and diverted to Udon Thani (Thailand), located about 370nm further westsouthwest, for a safe landing.


So they crossed the entire country of Laos on a single engine?

Why did they not divert to the nearest suitable airport?
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:35 am

Drifted down.... ok
737-300/400/500 ... are NOT classics :)
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:40 pm

The most relevant part of the avherald report is that no engine damage was found... so seems like it could have been a problem with a sensor or similar, rather than a fire and engine failure.
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:31 pm

Richard28 wrote:
The most relevant part of the avherald report is that no engine damage was found... so seems like it could have been a problem with a sensor or similar, rather than a fire and engine failure.


Actually, I would say it is completely irrelevant. The QRH makes no allowances for a failure of the fire detection system. A fire light is a fire light. You secure the engine and land at the nearest suitable airport. End of story. There is no "wiggle room" for interpretation.
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:39 pm

mmo wrote:
Richard28 wrote:
The most relevant part of the avherald report is that no engine damage was found... so seems like it could have been a problem with a sensor or similar, rather than a fire and engine failure.


Actually, I would say it is completely irrelevant. The QRH makes no allowances for a failure of the fire detection system. A fire light is a fire light. You secure the engine and land at the nearest suitable airport. End of story. There is no "wiggle room" for interpretation.


With respect to the seriousness of the emergency I agree. But it is good news for the LEAP that there was no fire due to a design flaw or manufacturing issue.
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:18 pm

fsabo wrote:
But it is good news for the LEAP that there was no fire due to a design flaw or manufacturing issue.


Yes, that's where I was looking at this from, sorry if not clear!
 
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Re: Thai Air Asia A320 Neo (Assumed engine fire) diversion

Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:40 pm

767333ER wrote:
imthedreamliner wrote:
Oh my God ! All NEO aircraft have to be grounded immediately

Then by that logic the all 737 MAX should be grounded too.


In the week the 787 had one in flight fire and one ground indecent, there was a different aircraft model that had two failures. This included an uncontained fire. Yet this aircraft type wasn't grounded.

All told recent groundings like the 787's are more about press than actual compliance with regulations.

So if the press takes a hard run at "A320NEO WILL MURDER YOUR FAMILY" sensationalist headlines expect a sudden grounding regardless of facts. If they get a pass from the press, then expect a much more reasoned response where they look at the actual issues and measures to improve the situation.

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