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Gbass21
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EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:17 am

Hello guys, last week I read an article of Panama's President saying that EK will start flying to PTY in late 2018, and, It may include a tag on BOG. I was waiting until someone start a topic about it, but I decide to created myself. So what are your thoughts about it? Can't EK just do DXB-BOG-PTY-DXB or it is mandatory to do DXB-PTY-BOG-PTY-DXB?. An the other question is, it is possible with the current EK fleet make BOG-DXB non stop (high altitude issue here)?

Here is the article in spanish if you want to take a look at it http://www.portaldeturismo.pe/noticia/e ... es-de-2018
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:33 am

Gbass21 wrote:
So what are your thoughts about it?

...that we've all heard this noise before.

So no real reason to get excited over it, until we see the ship pulling up to the gate at PTY.

Ditto [email protected]
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:10 am

EK has a solid enough track record that I fully expect that if they say they'll do it, they'll do it. The only thing that holds me back here is the fact EK themselves haven't said anything yet. If they do, I have no doubt they will follow through.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:14 am

neomax wrote:
EK has a solid enough track record that I fully expect that if they say they'll do it, they'll do it. The only thing that holds me back here is the fact EK themselves haven't said anything yet. If they do, I have no doubt they will follow through.

You mean like when EK officially announced this route three years ago, waffled on ever creating a solid schedule, blamed countries for not preemptively green-lighting partnerships that they had no obligation to grant, and then indefinitely suspended it with less than 4 weeks' notice before it was due to operate........

.......or were you referring to something else? :razz:
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:40 am

The market size can still be counted on one hand while two of those fingers are giving a peace sign, but sure go get 'em...
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:57 am

Wasn't this initially planned as a 3-4x weekly B77L service? Obviously not going to hold my breath but you never know. This time around may be different, and it's clear both sides have expressed interest in such a route.

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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:49 am

There were days this flight had 5 seats sold, when it was up for sale before. If it ever comes to fruition it will burn through a lot of cash very fast.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:22 am

LAX772LR wrote:
You mean like when EK officially announced this route three years ago, waffled on ever creating a solid schedule, blamed countries for not preemptively green-lighting partnerships that they had no obligation to grant, and then indefinitely suspended it with less than 4 weeks' notice before it was due to operate........

.......or were you referring to something else? :razz:


That may all be true except for the waffling part of the solid schedule. Loaded in the GDS and open for sales until it was withdrawn were the following flight numbers and schedules:

EK251 DXB PTY 0805 1625
EK252 PTY DXB 2230 2330+1

Daily with B77L.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:41 am

HB-IWC wrote:
That may all be true except for the waffling part of the solid schedule.

I'm aware that they loaded one, just took them forever to finally do it.
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:53 am

Gbass21 wrote:
Hello guys, last week I read an article of Panama's President saying that EK will start flying to PTY in late 2018, and, It may include a tag on BOG. [..]

If Colombia rejects the idea, LIM would be a good second choice, albeit 800 miles farther than BOG. Other good choices (SCL, BUE) already have EK tag-ons from elsewhere.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:58 am

chrisp390 wrote:
There were days this flight had 5 seats sold, when it was up for sale before. If it ever comes to fruition it will burn through a lot of cash very fast.


I don't know it that's true or not, but maybe it's because Copa was not selling tickets with EK, and without Copa I don't think this route will ever work.

brian415 wrote:
If Colombia rejects the idea, LIM would be a good second choice, albeit 800 miles farther than BOG. Other good choices (SCL, BUE) already have EK tag-ons from elsewhere.


I really think that the only real option is Bogota, BOG could be a very good candidate because of cargo, now that CCS is not in good shape, otherwise I think CCS was the best candidate a few years ago.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:24 am

brian415 wrote:
Gbass21 wrote:
Hello guys, last week I read an article of Panama's President saying that EK will start flying to PTY in late 2018, and, It may include a tag on BOG. [..]

If Colombia rejects the idea, LIM would be a good second choice, albeit 800 miles farther than BOG. Other good choices (SCL, BUE) already have EK tag-ons from elsewhere.


SCL will be served via GRU. A second flight to GRU with following service to SCL will start in July. 5 times a week with the 777 200LR.
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:00 am

Another EK start flight thread when there is nothing concrete or even announced by the airline. Why are these threads allowed with such misleading titles.
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:23 am

Soon is the word.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:03 pm

chrisp390 wrote:
There were days this flight had 5 seats sold, when it was up for sale before. If it ever comes to fruition it will burn through a lot of cash very fast.

In fact , there were flights with zero (yes, 0) seats sold, just a few months before departure. The only justification for this flight would be hybris...
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:06 pm

Flightsimboy wrote:
Another EK start flight thread when there is nothing concrete or even announced by the airline. Why are these threads allowed with such misleading titles.

Agree 100%.

Now you and I just have to sit back and wait for the if-you-don't-like-it-just-scroll-on-posters on here...
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:19 pm

“but but, partnering with Copa will make this profitable guys!!! it worked three years ago!!”

as said above. i’m happily eat my words if a plane pulls up to the gate at PTY. until then...
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:57 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Flightsimboy wrote:
Another EK start flight thread when there is nothing concrete or even announced by the airline. Why are these threads allowed with such misleading titles.

Agree 100%.

Now you and I just have to sit back and wait for the if-you-don't-like-it-just-scroll-on-posters on here...


Thank you moderators to change the title to "EK to start PTY in late 2018. :roll:

A.net had this strange fascination with EK. And the mods even more.
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:59 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
chrisp390 wrote:
There were days this flight had 5 seats sold, when it was up for sale before. If it ever comes to fruition it will burn through a lot of cash very fast.

In fact , there were flights with zero (yes, 0) seats sold, just a few months before departure. The only justification for this flight would be hybris...


At the time, I really thought a non-insignificant reason for starting it was to have the world's longest flight (would've been 10mi longer than DFW-SYD, which at the time was the longest). Then they opened their own flight to AKL, QR did as well, and it became a thing of the past.
 
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Re: EK to start PTY in late 2018

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:04 pm

Flightsimboy wrote:
MalevTU134 wrote:
Flightsimboy wrote:
Another EK start flight thread when there is nothing concrete or even announced by the airline. Why are these threads allowed with such misleading titles.

Agree 100%.

Now you and I just have to sit back and wait for the if-you-don't-like-it-just-scroll-on-posters on here...


Thank you moderators to change the title to "EK to start PTY in late 2018. :roll:

A.net had this strange fascination with EK. And the mods even more.


The same could be said regarding the ridiculous amount of threads started here on A.net about Norwegian.
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