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Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:24 pm

Looks like KLM's Dreamliner is taking over.........


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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:21 pm

Sad, the “Queen” will definitely be missed.
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:32 pm

Here are the KLM AMS-IAH KL661 flights for these changeover days:

- 22 Mar 2018 AMS - IAH B744 PH-BFV
- 23 Mar 2018 AMS - IAH B744 PH-BFV
- 24 Mar 2018 AMS - IAH B772 PH-BQO
- 25 Mar 2018 AMS - IAH 789
- 26 Mar 2018 AMS - IAH 789

This is the next chapter in the 61-year history for KLM at Houston.

KLM inaugurated AMS-Houston in 1958 with Douglas DC7C aircraft via Montreal and onwards to Mexico City.
- 1957 - 1961 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Dougas DC7C 3x weekly Mon, Wed, Fri
- 1961 - 1964 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Douglas DC8 3x weekly Wed, Fri, Sun
- 1964 - 1967 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Douglas DC8 4x weekly Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... l66-06.jpg
- 1967 - 1971 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Douglas DC8-63 4x weekly Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... l68-08.jpg
- 1971 - 1982 AMS-Montreal-Houston on 13 September 1971 KLM introduced the B747-200 3x week plus 1x DC8-63 http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... l71-07.jpg
- 1982 - 1989 AMS-Houston-Mexico 5x weekly B747-200 and AMS-ATL-IAH 2x weekly B747-200
- 1989 - 2018 AMS-IAH non-stop KL661 B747-400 daily
- 2018 - xxxx AMS-IAH non-stop B789 daily
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:39 pm

It's probably more efficient to use dedicated wide bodied freighters for large freight that can't fit in the cargo holds of passenger aircraft. When the combi 747's were new, there were very few cargo 747's in service. It made sense to have wide bodied combis to serve routes that regularly had demand for oversized freight that needed to go on the main deck. The 787 can carry as much cargo and passengers as a 747 combi, so long as the freight can fit in the cargo hold.
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:40 pm

My first long haul flight was on a KLM B747-406M to IAH! PH-BFY back in April 2003
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:45 pm

As an aside, I think it would be nice gesture for KLM to name a plane "City of Houston" to commemorate the long-time service. Just my two cents ;-)
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:46 pm

Thanks. Only thing missing is cargo history!

factsonly wrote:
KLM inaugurated AMS-Houston in 1958 with Douglas DC7C aircraft via Montreal and onwards to Mexico City.
- 1957 - 1961 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Dougas DC7C 3x weekly Mon, Wed, Fri


Had to have been a huge deal at the time. Only U.S. interior city served transatlantic with a turboprop other than ORD and DTW? First transatlantic service to the southern U.S.? KLM's second U.S. city?

factsonly wrote:
- 1961 - 1964 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Douglas DC8 3x weekly Wed, Fri, Sun
- 1964 - 1967 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Douglas DC8 4x weekly Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... l66-06.jpg


DC-8 largest aircraft to serve HOU in regularly scheduled service? (Which variant?)

factsonly wrote:
- 1967 - 1971 AMS-Montreal-Houston on Douglas DC8-63 4x weekly Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... l68-08.jpg
- 1971 - 1982 AMS-Montreal-Houston on 13 September 1971 KLM introduced the B747-200 3x week plus 1x DC8-63 http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages ... l71-07.jpg


Somewhere between 1969 and the early 1970s AF started IAH, becoming the second TATL carrier.

factsonly wrote:
- 1989 - 2018 AMS-IAH non-stop KL661 B747-400 daily


Missing here were the several spurts of 2x service on A330-200. IIRC sometimes year-round, sometimes summer seasonal, fizzled out at 2x.

789 to be a 26-seat/day (~10%) upgauge from 747 combi.

5 less business.

12 more premium economy.

19 more economy.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:58 pm

It's the end of an era. Seeing a KLM 744 fly over my house and elementary/middle/high school always made my day.

Gotta pour one out for the homies now.
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:34 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
It's the end of an era. Seeing a KLM 744 fly over my house and elementary/middle/high school always made my day.

Gotta pour one out for the homies now.


Amen. My first 747 flight was on a KLM bird out of IAH in the late 80's. Great service and great airplane.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:50 pm

FlyingSicilian wrote:
As an aside, I think it would be nice gesture for KLM to name a plane "City of Houston" to commemorate the long-time service. Just my two cents ;-)


It would be nice, but I am not holding my breath. If LA, Chicago or NYC do not see their names gracing one their ‘47s’, I doubt that they will make an exception for ol H-Town.
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:00 pm

thomasphoto60 wrote:
FlyingSicilian wrote:
As an aside, I think it would be nice gesture for KLM to name a plane "City of Houston" to commemorate the long-time service. Just my two cents ;-)


It would be nice, but I am not holding my breath. If LA, Chicago or NYC do not see their names gracing one their ‘47s’, I doubt that they will make an exception for ol H-Town.


Oh Lord, the only thing I can't stand about my hometown is the constant "put upon" attitude.

I suppose I will take that, though, over cities that think they're the center of the universe.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:33 pm

- 24 Mar 2018 Amsterdam (AMS) Houston (IAH) B772 (PH-BQO) = Canceled
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:58 pm

They also use to have seasonal 2 times a day 747 flights. 1 during the day 1 during the evening. Then they use to have the 737 privitair flight.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:05 pm

Sad :( I live in Southwest Missouri and always loved seeing her fly over.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:31 pm

I'm saddened. I didn't know this change was coming. For years I've seen the blue whales occasionally fly high overhead. Also seen them in IAH too. So beautiful. Was even better when two came by in one day.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:37 pm

Was lucky enough to fly the KLM 747 twice AMS-IAH. KLM is an excellent carrier and the combi was a super comfortable plane in all cabins. It will be missed at IAH.
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:51 pm

I flew IAH- AMS on a 744 in 1994 I think. It is the end of an era. The 744 will be missed. I also flew the 744 on the BA LHR-IAH route.
Can I have a mojito on this flight?
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:42 am

The 744 combi will be missed, rare plane now days. LH converted there combi.
 
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Re: Final KLM B744 Flight to IAH today 23Mar

Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:19 am

March 25, 2018: First KLM B789 - PH-BHE is en-route AMS-IAH:

https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM25/10d29484

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