Boeing formally delivers the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines

qf789 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:02 am

Boeing has formally handed over the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines. The aircraft 9V-SCA is expected to arrive in Singapore on Wednesday

By 2023 the 787-10 will account for a third of SQ's fleet

Congrats to Boeing and SIngapore Airlines

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/0 ... ng-787-10/

Boeing Statement/Press Release on delivering the world's first 787-10

oldannyboy · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:15 am

Wow, what a beast! Stunning looking aircraft. The long fuselage really makes the lines of the 787 come alive...! The -8 looks so stubby in comparison...

smi0006 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:18 am

Stunning! Can’t wait to see more 787-10 in the skies!!

SQ certainly have a varied fleet! They do turn them over fast!

StudiodeKadent · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:18 am

Gorgeous plane for a great airline. I wish SQ the best with their 787-10s. Given their need for high density shorter range operations it seems a perfect jet for them, and keeping the CASM down is always a good thing. I look forward to seeing what their new regional business class seats look like.

sibibom · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:24 am

Its Beautiful! We are probably entering era of -10. They will work so very well as regional people movers.

Motorhussy · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:47 am

Sure is a great looking plane and will no doubt be very profitable for Temasek. Wonder what kind of discount SQ wrangled out of Boeing for them?

caljn · Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:22 pm

It looks like the landing gear could use 3 sets of wheels.

slider · Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:52 pm

As the aircraft will primarily be deployed within Asia Pacific on routes of up eight hours’ duration, SIA has chosen a two-class layout for the 787-10, comprising 36 new, soon-to-be-revealed, regional business class seats offering direct aisle access for every passenger, and 301 economy class seats in a 3-3-3 layout for a total of 337.

Wow, 337 total seats.

Julie77W · Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:55 pm

Wasn't it supposed to have three wheel bogies?

Planeflyer · Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:55 pm

A sign of things to come.

Elementalism · Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:03 pm

Looks great!

davescj · Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:06 pm

SQ's website has the seat layout here:

http://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/pdf/O ... 787-10.pdf

DfwRevolution · Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:49 pm

Julie77W wrote:
Wasn't it supposed to have three wheel bogies?

Nope. The -10 is the same TOW as the -9 and was never specified with a three-wheel bogie.

Ziyulu · Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:55 pm

Yuck! 3-3-3 seating in economy.

Brandon757 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:06 pm

I still dislike the noses on all the 787 models. Just something about them.

teme82 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:09 pm

Is the SQ's 787-10's going to do regional routes only since there is no first class cabin?

wingman · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:12 pm

Ziyulu wrote:
Yuck! 3-3-3 seating in economy.

They also have a business class so you can sit in there. This econ layout is pretty much the global standard for the next 30 years so you'll either have to fly business or take the bus.

Ziyulu · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:20 pm

wingman wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Yuck! 3-3-3 seating in economy.

They also have a business class so you can sit in there. This econ layout is pretty much the global standard for the next 30 years so you'll either have to fly business or take the bus.

No, I can fly on a 767 with 2-3-2 seating. I can fly on a 330 or 340 with 2-4-2 seating. I can also fly on a 350 with 3-3-3 seating, but the cabin width is wider. I can fly on a 777 with 3-3-3 seating on numerous carriers.

Revelation · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:34 pm

caljn wrote:
It looks like the landing gear could use 3 sets of wheels.

Yet the plane is so light it doesn't need the extra weight and cost of the 3rd set of wheels.

Pretty much optimized right up to the limit of what the current MLG can do.

817Dreamliiner · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:39 pm

LAXdenizen wrote:
What will be the shorthand designation for the 787-10?
781? That doesn't look or sound appropriate.

B78X.

LAXdenizen · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:39 pm

What will be the shorthand designation for the 787-10?
781? That doesn't look or sound appropriate.

Boeingphan · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:40 pm

Brandon757 wrote:
I still dislike the noses on all the 787 models. Just something about them.

I tend to agree when they are on the ground I think they don't look the best but when in the air and the gear is all cleaned up i think they look great. Maybe it's the short landing gear that makes it look stubby?

qf002 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:48 pm

LAXdenizen wrote:
What will be the shorthand designation for the 787-10?
781? That doesn't look or sound appropriate.

78J is the official designation.

TWA302 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:59 pm

Can anyone please tell me the reason why rows 74 & 75 on the right side have only and isle and window seat? What is in that area that doesn't allow the middle seat?

Great looking plane.

CXfirst · Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:07 pm

TWA302 wrote:
Can anyone please tell me the reason why rows 74 & 75 on the right side have only and isle and window seat? What is in that area that doesn't allow the middle seat?

Great looking plane.

Just an educated guess, that due to the cabin getting narrower towards the back, they just go down to two seats. There isn't a gap like the seat plan might suggest. Other 787 operators also have a reduction of seats in that general area.

Ziyulu wrote:
Yuck! 3-3-3 seating in economy.

Most 787 operators have gone 3-3-3. Even though SQ might be seen as more premium, this plane is going to be used mostly on regional flights. Can't really expect 2-4-2 for that type of operation. Their longer routes will continue being on the 777 (3-3-3), A350 and A380 aircraft.

xxcr · Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:34 pm

Stunning aircraft!! whos next to receive the 78J???

Andre3K · Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:38 pm

Ziyulu wrote:
wingman wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Yuck! 3-3-3 seating in economy.

They also have a business class so you can sit in there. This econ layout is pretty much the global standard for the next 30 years so you'll either have to fly business or take the bus.

No, I can fly on a 767 with 2-3-2 seating. I can fly on a 330 or 340 with 2-4-2 seating. I can also fly on a 350 with 3-3-3 seating, but the cabin width is wider. I can fly on a 777 with 3-3-3 seating on numerous carriers.

Regardless of how you feel I don't think they will have any problems filling seats. Don't blame the plane, blame the airlines and by extension the passengers who by and large want cheap seats, not more room.

hayzel777 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:41 pm

LAXdenizen wrote:
What will be the shorthand designation for the 787-10?
781? That doesn't look or sound appropriate.

ICAO says 78X and IATA says 78J.

Kno · Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:59 pm

Brandon757 wrote:
I still dislike the noses on all the 787 models. Just something about them.

Couldn't agree more, the landing gear is short and stubby for a plane of its size and the nose has the shape of a minivan, and even worse the shortness of the 9 and especially the 8 make it look like a minivan with wings.

The a350 is far more beautiful IMO, with that said the 787-10 is the better looking of the 787 and SQs livery helps it look a little less ugly.

seabosdca · Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:24 pm

Boy, that's a lot of plane behind the MLG. How long before neglectful loading puts someone's 78X on its tailskid?

Polot · Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:28 pm

westgate wrote:
I think it looks too long, maybe it'll grow on me and maybe its just the SQ livery, need to see what it looks like in a different paint job . . . but for me the 787-9 looks the best, the -8 I think is too stubby. The A350 looks much better stretched out.

Yes the SQ lovey is not doing any favors when it comes to length. The whole point of a cheat line is to emphasize length, that is why it is called a cheat line.

DLHAM · Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:31 pm

Revelation wrote:
caljn wrote:
It looks like the landing gear could use 3 sets of wheels.

the plane is so light it doesn't need the extra weight and cost of the 3rd set of wheels.

Pretty much optimized right up to the limit of what the current MLG can do.

Isnt the MLG on the 787-10 bigger? Looks bigger to me.

westgate · Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:34 pm

I think it looks too long, maybe it'll grow on me and maybe its just the SQ livery, need to see what it looks like in a different paint job . . . but for me the 787-9 looks the best, the -8 I think is too stubby. The A350 looks much better stretched out.

Flighty · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:00 pm

What a time. It is great to see these projects come in. Not only design work, but the fiddly production details must be a colossal amount of work. Even through first delivery, the bugfixing and formation of SOPs is intense. A first delivery to an airline like Singapore is a testament to the skill and hard work (and hopes) of many people. GOOD JOB BOEING WORKERS.

seabosdca · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:17 pm

DLHAM wrote:
Isnt the MLG on the 787-10 bigger? Looks bigger to me.

It's the same MLG that's on the 787-9. Both the 787-9 and 787-10 have bigger MLG than the 787-8.

The 787-10 is as close to a straight stretch of the 787-9 as you get in aviation. Maximum weights are the same and components and systems have only the minimum changes needed for the longer body.

Planeflyer · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:20 pm

It is going to be a huge money maker for the airlines and Boeing.

PixelPilot · Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:32 pm

Beautiful bird.

QuarkFly · Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:11 pm

When is it flying out of CHS? Or is it already gone...nonstop to Changi?

seat38a · Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:36 pm

Well I guess the next logical step would be for a 787-10ER.

AA94 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:40 pm

QuarkFly wrote:
When is it flying out of CHS? Or is it already gone...nonstop to Changi?

Scheduled to fly CHS-KIX-SIN tonight.

seabosdca · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:05 pm

So now we know (before we have a Boeing-blessed payload-range chart): 9000+ nm still air distance is too big a bite for even a mostly empty 78X.

FWAERJ · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:12 pm

xxcr wrote:
Stunning aircraft!! whos next to receive the 78J???

UA, which will also be the first 78J with the GEnx (SQ uses Trents) and the first 787 for all of UA with the Polaris hard product (which couldn't be installed on factory-new 788s and 789s due to existing contracts with B/E Aerospace that UA couldn't break).

smi0006 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:22 pm

Any photos of the interior and new regional business seat yet?

blooc350 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:28 pm

smi0006 wrote:
Any photos of the interior and new regional business seat yet?

No. Photos of the new products are under embargo and will not be released to the public until Wednesday morning at Jet Quay in Singapore.

Motorhussy · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:34 pm

seat38a wrote:
Well I guess the next logical step would be for a 787-10ER.

Which would require a lot of really expensive re-design and re-engineering: wing, fairings, engines, MLG.

And for how big a market?

MatheusLPV · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:42 pm

I am looking forward to see the new regional business class but there is no pictures of the cabin yet ..... anyone ?

seat38a · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:50 pm

Motorhussy wrote:
seat38a wrote:
Well I guess the next logical step would be for a 787-10ER.

Which would require a lot of really expensive re-design and re-engineering: wing, fairings, engines, MLG.

And for how big a market?

Who knows. Look what happened after Boeing launched the 777-300ER and with only 10 firm order from Air France. It may not happen until the current models are due for a MAX upgrade but I highly doubt we won't ever see a 787-10ER.

sandyb123 · Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:52 pm

MatheusLPV wrote:
I am looking forward to see the new regional business class but there is no pictures of the cabin yet ..... anyone ?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/here-is-singap ... class-seat

Sandyb123

MatheusLPV · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:40 pm

sandyb123 wrote:
MatheusLPV wrote:
I am looking forward to see the new regional business class but there is no pictures of the cabin yet ..... anyone ?

https://www.ausbt.com.au/here-is-singap ... class-seat

Sandyb123

I mean the real product ..... that was a prototype ...

admanager · Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:42 pm

Got to see the monster in person Saturday. It is long compared to the 9's near it. I thought the SQ livery looked great.

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