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Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:43 am
by AAPramugari14
Word on the street (internal source) is AA will be announcing a new route served out of LAX tomorrow (03/27). According to what has been said AA will be the first US Carrier to fly to this destination nonstop.

Let the speculation commence!

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:07 am
by ADrum23
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:11 am
by Dominion301
YXX on an E75 to compliment YVR...now that would be crazy.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:12 am
by rnav2dlrey
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?


because demand ex-LAX (the #1 O/D airport in the country) is significantly higher. as an example (and i doubt this will happen), LAX-SGN would make more sense than DFW-SGN because the vietnamese community and business ties are in LA, not dallas.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:14 am
by jplatts
JAX, ORF, SDF, GRR, RIC, ALB, CHS, BHM, RSW, and MSN are the top 10 U.S. destinations that are not currently served nonstop from LAX.

The lack of nonstop service to LAX from SDF is a huge hole in the Louisville market, and Louisville is one of the largest U.S. cities without nonstop service to LAX. AA could add SDF-LAX nonstop service in order to fill in a huge hole in the SDF market.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:16 am
by hOMSaR
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?


The OP didn’t say “never been served before.” He said “first US carrier” on the route. This could mean a route that already has service by someone else.

[facetious]or it could mean they’re launching LAX-PER to feed QF’s PER-LHR nonstop[/facetious]

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:16 am
by hoons90
Guangzhou?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:18 am
by EvanWSFO
jplatts wrote:
JAX, ORF, SDF, GRR, RIC, ALB, CHS, BHM, RSW, and MSN are the top 10 U.S. destinations that are not currently served nonstop from LAX.

The lack of nonstop service to LAX from SDF is a huge hole in the Louisville market, and Louisville is one of the largest U.S. cities without nonstop service to LAX. AA could add SDF-LAX nonstop service in order to fill in a huge hole in the SDF market.


If first ever means first EVER then JAX and BHM can be taken off the list.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:21 am
by jplatts
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?


AA actually has nonstop service to AKL, SYD, and HND from LAX but not from DFW. It will not be the first time that AA launches nonstop service from LAX to a destination that it does not serve nonstop from DFW.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:27 am
by UALifer
AAPramugari14 wrote:
Word on the street (internal source) is AA will be announcing a new route served out of LAX tomorrow (03/27). According to what has been said AA will be the first US Carrier to fly to this destination nonstop.

Let the speculation commence!


First to US carrier fly nonstop from LAX or first to fly nonstop from anywhere? If the latter, that would eliminate basically all US domestic destinations.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:30 am
by AR326
Rumor from some avgeek sources way down south state it might be EZE

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:38 am
by EarlyLateORD
I could see SCL as well

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:39 am
by seat1a
Rio

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:43 am
by Lpbri
UA served LAX-BHM twice daily back in the 70s

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:47 am
by planemanofnz
AAPramugari14 wrote:
According to what has been said AA will be the first US Carrier to fly to this destination nonstop.

Perhaps a seasonal LAX - CHC service? AA seemed to be happy with LAX - AKL over the New Zealand summer, up-gauging it to a 789.

I can hope ... :bouncy:

Cheers,

C.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:48 am
by Runway28L
Will this be a domestic or international destination?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:53 am
by Adipocere
The only large Pacific rim country which has not had service from LAX would be Russia: LAX - VVO?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:56 am
by Polot
“First US carrier” to fly the route nonstop would imply international destination. Only US carriers can fly domestic with traffic rights so nobody would use that jargon for a domestic route.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:56 am
by chepos
Have my doubts about EZE and SCL, Latam is on the SCL route and they depend heavily on connections out of SCL. Can’t imagine two airlines on that route. EZE pax can be routed through DFW, yields would be garbage.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:06 am
by janders
Also UA flew EZE and Pan Am did SCL from LAX, so neither one of those would be a first.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:08 am
by alasizon
If true, my guess would be a Canadian or LatAm airport.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:14 am
by AR326
janders wrote:
Also UA flew EZE and Pan Am did SCL from LAX, so neither one of those would be a first.


Really? When did UA fly to EZE nonstop from LAX? Pan Am used to fly to EZE via SCL way back in the day.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:24 am
by davvon
Lax-icn?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:30 am
by LAXdude1023
rnav2dlrey wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?


because demand ex-LAX (the #1 O/D airport in the country) is significantly higher. as an example (and i doubt this will happen), LAX-SGN would make more sense than DFW-SGN because the vietnamese community and business ties are in LA, not dallas.


While I agree in theory, you are too dismissive of the Vietnamese community in Dallas. Its still the 4th largest in the US ahead of places like DC and Seattle.

Also, theres almost no business ties between Vietnam and the US including LA. Thats why there hasn't been any service there. Garbage yields due to it all being VFR.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:30 am
by afcjets
EvanWSFO wrote:
jplatts wrote:
JAX, ORF, SDF, GRR, RIC, ALB, CHS, BHM, RSW, and MSN are the top 10 U.S. destinations that are not currently served nonstop from LAX.

The lack of nonstop service to LAX from SDF is a huge hole in the Louisville market, and Louisville is one of the largest U.S. cities without nonstop service to LAX. AA could add SDF-LAX nonstop service in order to fill in a huge hole in the SDF market.


If first ever means first EVER then JAX and BHM can be taken off the list.


Same for CHS. World Airways flew DC-10s twice per week CHS-LAX in the mid 1980s.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:32 am
by wedgetail737
LAX-PSC. LOL!

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:32 am
by Pengaea
hoons90 wrote:
Guangzhou?


Isn't CAN a Category 1 airport under the US/China bilateral? If so, then there are no more slots for US carriers to serve that route.

OP is unclear whether or not this would be the first route or destination served by a US carrier. If it's the first route served, then maybe LAX-TPE/ICN? NW might have flown LAX-SEL back in the day though. If it's the first destination, then who knows? I don't think FUK or CTS have ever been served by a US carrier. It could be any number of interior Chinese cities. All these places are about as likely as AA doing 3x daily LIT to NRT on an A380.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:35 am
by capejet
LAX-Bangkok Thailand?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:38 am
by deltal1011man
Pengaea wrote:
hoons90 wrote:
Guangzhou?


Isn't CAN a Category 1 airport under the US/China bilateral? If so, then there are no more slots for US carriers to serve that route.

OP is unclear whether or not this would be the first route or destination served by a US carrier. If it's the first route served, then maybe LAX-TPE/ICN? NW might have flown LAX-SEL back in the day though. If it's the first destination, then who knows? I don't think FUK or CTS have ever been served by a US carrier. It could be any number of interior Chinese cities. All these places are about as likely as AA doing 3x daily LIT to NRT on an A380.

Yes and no. CAN is Category 1 but CAN has either 7 or 14 frequencies carved out just for the use for CAN.

Having said that EZE, SCL, SGN, CAN, BKK would all be a total blood bath. Even Delta/United would burn money on SGN/CAN/BKK.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:41 am
by MAH4546
In addition to new LAX service, with Brazil picking up again in a major way, AA will be returning to some of the Brazilian markets it exited later this year. I would think Porto Alegre and Recife come first given the market size is largest from those two.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:41 am
by Antarius
What about TPE?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:42 am
by LAX772LR
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?

Sometime about an exponentially larger market, with more demand to..... um, everywhere?

Antarius wrote:
What about TPE?

A traditionally low-yield market, in proximity to HKG, with multiple nonstops by two carriers with the primary point of sale?
Never say never, but that one would certainly be a shocker.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:43 am
by LupineChemist
I could see BKK.

"First US carrier to fly non-stop" to me implies that there had been service by a US carrier there before, just not with non-stop to the US. So basically I'd look at places that had been served by UA or NW/DL from the NRT hub.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:58 am
by idp5601
I could see MNL or SGN as a longshot, although the heavily VFR nature of these markets would mean AA might not make any money on these routes.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:00 am
by smi0006
BNE? To replace capacity after QF moved BNE-LAX-JFK to a 789 from a 744.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:03 am
by xcltflyboy
PPT

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:16 am
by PanzerPowner
MNL? Give PAL a run for its money you know.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:16 am
by Antarius
xcltflyboy wrote:
PPT


UA already announced SFO-PPT.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:27 am
by EvanWSFO
smi0006 wrote:
BNE? To replace capacity after QF moved BNE-LAX-JFK to a 789 from a 744.


I really doubt the capacity difference between LAX-BNE warrants another OW flight. Somehow I think this isn't going to be a earth shattering announcement.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:43 am
by PlanesNTrains
Antarius wrote:
xcltflyboy wrote:
PPT


UA already announced SFO-PPT.


Yes but this is about LAX, AA, and a route never flown by a US carrier before. Whether LAX-PPT has had a nonstop on a US carrier before is the question.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:51 am
by airzona11
I would assume having a tie to a JV or close partner to feed the flight. PER? BNE? 2 weekly to RAR? (kidding).

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:55 am
by HNL
LAX-EZE X number of days a week
LAX-GRU reduces to X number of days a week

e.g. EZE//GRU will now share the same set of aircraft

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:04 am
by xcltflyboy
PlanesNTrains wrote:
Antarius wrote:
xcltflyboy wrote:
PPT


UA already announced SFO-PPT.


Yes but this is about LAX, AA, and a route never flown by a US carrier before. Whether LAX-PPT has had a nonstop on a US carrier before is the question.


Yes, that is the question. I don't know the answer. I simply tossed my guess into the ring with PPT. If a US carrier has, indeed, flown LAX - PPT before, then my guess isn't valid.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:13 am
by dcajet
There are two new routes from EZE being announced tomorrow Tuesday, both international. Rumor has one is LAX on either AA or UA...

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:15 am
by dcajet
janders wrote:
Also UA flew EZE and Pan Am did SCL from LAX, so neither one of those would be a first.


UA flew LAX to GRU with the 747SP, never to EZE. BN and PA did back in the 80s.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:29 am
by rbavfan
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?


Range does not allow DFW ops?

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:36 am
by dcajet
rbavfan wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
Doubt it will happen, but why would AA serve a route out of LAX that's "never been served before" rather than launching it at their flagship hub of DFW?


Range does not allow DFW ops?


Maybe because they already fly to this destination from the DFW hub. If indeed it is EZE, no American carrier has ever flown it nonstop. AR did with the A340 in 2000-2001.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:42 am
by hz747300
TLV? JED? RUH? EZE?

BKK would seem to be too long & low yielding. I'm trying to think of places that would have some yields.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:47 am
by Dominion301
alasizon wrote:
If true, my guess would be a Canadian or LatAm airport.


That’s why I said YXX as a crazy idea as it’s the only airport in Canada (even YTZ briefly did in the late 80s) currently serving over 500k pax per year that’s never ever had a US carrier serving it at some point in its history.

Re: Rumor: New AA Route Announcement from LAX

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:50 am
by rbavfan
Pengaea wrote:
hoons90 wrote:
Guangzhou?


Isn't CAN a Category 1 airport under the US/China bilateral? If so, then there are no more slots for US carriers to serve that route.

OP is unclear whether or not this would be the first route or destination served by a US carrier. If it's the first route served, then maybe LAX-TPE/ICN? NW might have flown LAX-SEL back in the day though. If it's the first destination, then who knows? I don't think FUK or CTS have ever been served by a US carrier. It could be any number of interior Chinese cities. All these places are about as likely as AA doing 3x daily LIT to NRT on an A380.


CTS has been served for some time by Hawaiian, FUK was served by HA & DL and currently DL fro HNL