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LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:16 am



The sad part is, the individual who was responsible for this horrendous rebrand probably got promoted. This is probably the ugliest A350 out there. What a sad, missed opportunity.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:21 am

Yes I have to agree with you about the ugliest A350 out there. Shame because the A350 is such an amazing looking aircraft.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:22 am

If you will excuse me Sir, tastes are necessarily different....so I cannot follow you. For me the new modern state of art livery is indeed especially Fitting to THIS airplane as the most modern one which is in the Lufthansa fleet now. Well done Lufthansa! ^^
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:28 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
If you will excuse me Sir, tastes are necessarily different....so I cannot follow you. For me the new modern state of art livery is indeed especially Fitting to THIS airplane as the most modern one which is in the Lufthansa fleet now. Well done Lufthansa! ^^


While it is certainly modern, it is no doubt also less expensive to maintain. Airlines are cutting costs everywhere they can.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:29 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
If you will excuse me Sir, tastes are necessarily different....so I cannot follow you. For me the new modern state of art livery is indeed especially Fitting to THIS airplane as the most modern one which is in the Lufthansa fleet now. Well done Lufthansa! ^^


State of the art? This is a joke right?
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:40 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
If you will excuse me Sir, tastes are necessarily different....so I cannot follow you. For me the new modern state of art livery is indeed especially Fitting to THIS airplane as the most modern one which is in the Lufthansa fleet now. Well done Lufthansa! ^^

This looks only slightly better then something that would be put in a children book and I am not exaggerating. This isn't a livery. It's a white plane with a logo on it.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:43 am

Sorry Airbusonly, I'm firmly in the hate-the-new-LH-look party. Even more so now the first 350 is in it. I presume the tail colours is still in the first rendition of the new look and not the amended version.
There are some really gorgeous A350's around now and when this one pitches up next to it, I just wonder what's going through the minds of LH bosses when they see the comparisons.
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:47 am

Reminds me of UTA minus the green frame around doors...
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:50 am

“Hideous” was apropos for AA’s new scheme when it came out. But I think it’s the wrong word here. LH’s new scheme is just boring and flat.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:51 am

B595 wrote:
“Hideous” was apropos for AA’s new scheme when it came out. But I think it’s the wrong word here. LH’s new scheme is just boring and flat.

It is a matter of opinion - the new LH livery was basic, bland, and boring. Until of course they put it on an A350. Now it's hideous.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:57 am

Goodyear wrote:


The sad part is, the individual who was responsible for this horrendous rebrand probably got promoted. This is probably the ugliest A350 out there. What a sad, missed opportunity.


This new Lufthansa livery reminds me of black armband. As if LH is in mourning. Why on Earth was the classic and beautiful livery replaced by this monstrosity?
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:59 am

@ Goodyear: thanks for putting the two pictures side by side. It is interesting because the new colors make the A350-900 look like an A350-800.

(the angle is not exactly the same but still...)
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:59 am

So they replaced a livery that was 80ish percent white with one that's 90ish?

....meh.

Not exactly the end of the world. At least it has SOME color still left in it; considering what was done to JL and AY.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:00 am

Looks fine to me.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:05 am

Would have looked better with the old blue color on the tail. Also, put the same blue color on the engines. The contrast between the almost black tail and the white fuselage is too steep in my opinion.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:07 am

The only way this livery can be saved is by adding yellow to the crane on the tail.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:08 am

Much nicer that the stale old yellow/blue combination. It's minimalist for sure, but elegant and very smart. I love the way the blue on the tail stops short of the leading edge.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:12 am

I like the new look but the blue color is definitely too dark (and the picture was even taken when the sun was shining...). Saw it with my own two eyes and yes, it looks almost black during a typical day in February in Frankfurt.

That’s why I am looking forward to the update with a lighter color of blue.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:17 am

At least the tires are not white.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:32 am

Seeing both side by side, it's impossible to think of the new scheme as an improvement. I've seen it on a 747 and I can live with it. But this is very disappointing.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:50 am

that's awful - the A350 is such a gorgeous plane, yet it looks drab in that livery.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:54 am

Saw a few new LH planes in person at FRA yesterday... WOW... look so unfinished and incomplete... even AF looks colorful next to them. As a fanboy of LH, must say deeply disappointed.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:13 am

With the slightly brighter blue it will be okayish.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:14 am

I don't like it either, my first reaction was "I want the Spiegelei back".

But, this is not a single person's decision. They ask customers, mainly frequent Flyers for their opinion. I had been invited once to a place in Raunheim near FRA Airport to give my opinion about new seats. It takes a Long time and much Input to come to a decision.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:21 am

I'm afraid to say it, but it does not suit the A350 at all, some feat on what is an elegant aircraft. It's not even that it's just bland, AY's livery looks great on the A350. A shame, but life moves on.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:32 am

Modern aircraft, livery is very ugly and I don't like it. This is once my favourite airline, now no more because of the new livery.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:36 am

Let's face it how many airlines in the 70s had a standard cheatline and logo on the tail? and how is that any different to what some now bemoan the 'eurowhite' style?? Goodyear's post is completely missing the point, he says:

'The sad part is, the individual who was responsible for this horrendous rebrand probably got promoted. This is probably the ugliest A350 out there. What a sad, missed opportunity'.

The rebrand is not just about the way the plane looks, as I have said before 90% of an airlines branding is in the airport, offices, gates, aircraft interiors, uniforms etc. many passengers probably don't even notice the outside of the plane and in the case of LH they have got it completely right. Congratulations to the design team and LH board.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:39 am

NickWebb wrote:
Let's face it how many airlines in the 70s had a standard cheatline and logo on the tail? and how is that any different to what some now bemoan the 'eurowhite' style?? Goodyear's post is completely missing the point, he says:

There is no "point" to this topic other than that this is a forum, where opinions are voiced.
Yes I agree with you! Congratulations to the Lufthansa team. This livery sure took a lot of effort to design. A job well done to all!
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:53 am

Hmm, I really start liking the new design - is that bad? :smile:
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:57 am

A few days ago i saw a LH A321 taking off from FRAs RW18. I'm not sure if it was the revised new livery but, in bright sunlight the blue still looked very dark. But i have to admit that the new livery looks better in the real world than on photos but, I still think the old one looks better.

Re the A350s side by side: I allways thougt that the grey underbelly on the old livery was superflous. But somehow i now understand why it was there. On the new one the fuselage looks some kind of.. unfinished?

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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:58 am

As a LH fan, I must say that this new livery still hasn't grown on me, hard as I try. I don't see myself walking into that warm, efficient and familiar environment with this new look. It almost feels like I'd be going into a cave, or some makeshift holiday charter flight. The silver bird looks lifeless to me.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:05 am

Its not the best one out there. But imagine if SQ went Euro white, the Anet would got into meltdown

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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:06 am

I suspect this livery disaster partially has its roots in the Austrian Airlines re-brand of a year ago. Then, the design bigwigs in the LH group already got away with reducing a livery to "all white plus a few logos". But crucially, the Austrian livery is still sort of balanced, as it has the red engines: it is not an entirely white plane with some text and a black tail.

Methinks they took this bad minimalistic approach one step too far this time: in the end, the Austrian livery could already have been a lot better. But it still sort of works, especially as no one considers OS to be a particularly fancy or nice carrier anymore anyway. LH, on the other hand, would dearly need something that is actually classy and stylish. Ah well.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:08 am

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Its not the best one out there. But imagine if SQ went Euro white, the Anet would got into meltdown

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And rightly so. The SQ livery in its current forum is stunning, especially on the 787-10.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:10 am

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Its not the best one out there. But imagine if SQ went Euro white, the Anet would got into meltdown

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Ha ha ! indeed it would cause an outcry. The SQ livery is proof that a good cheatline design with nice colour contrasts, a bold font typeface and prominent tail logo looks as good today as ever. LH is now in the league of AY, MU and JL for failed livery designs.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:13 am

On the B747-8 the livery looks quite nice, on the A350 though it doesn't fit that good anymore. But imho it's far from "hideous". A bit unproportional but the A350 has never been a beauty-queen anyway.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:19 am

Goodyear wrote:
The only way this livery can be saved is by adding yellow to the crane on the tail.


My thoughts too and also make the outer ring yellow.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:52 am

That they painted the wings white doesn't help matters either.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:52 am

Is it just me or the new livery made the 350 looks much shorter and stubbier, almost like the 788? Especially when you put the picture side by side, it looks like a comparison of a 788 and 789 :D
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:57 am

N14AZ wrote:
@ Goodyear: thanks for putting the two pictures side by side. It is interesting because the new colors make the A350-900 look like an A350-800.

(the angle is not exactly the same but still...)


That was my thinking. It makes the plane look stubby.

Anyways, the livery is nice if boring. I much prefer the NZ way of doing a dark tail on white body.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:59 am

The ring and crane on the tail should be "bolded" to make them stand out more. From not much of a distance, the logo can hardly be made out. Overall, very bland and monochromatic, dull and uninspiring.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:02 am

TC957 wrote:
An767 wrote:
Its not the best one out there. But imagine if SQ went Euro white, the Anet would got into meltdown

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Ha ha ! indeed it would cause an outcry. The SQ livery is proof that a good cheatline design with nice colour contrasts, a bold font typeface and prominent tail logo looks as good today as ever. LH is now in the league of AY, MU and JL for failed livery designs.

With all due respect, in the lame livery department there's MU and then there's everyone else. But mentioning LH in there does show how far they have fallen. To be totally fair, I have to see it in person: I didn't much like the new AA or AC until I saw them "live".
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:19 am

juliuswong wrote:
Reminds me of UTA minus the green frame around doors...



I thought the UTA aircraft looked outstanding and unique
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:22 am

Goodyear wrote:


The sad part is, the individual who was responsible for this horrendous rebrand probably got promoted. This is probably the ugliest A350 out there. What a sad, missed opportunity.


It is. It's ugly as hell. Drab, sad, uninspiring.

Remember: it's always the bad ones making career progress. It's the 'yes men' applying the concepts that management wants and that nobody likes.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:31 am

And if you look at the whole rebranding (websites, mobile apps, etc.) it is very well done. Who cares about a livery today anyway?
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:35 am

NickWebb wrote:
The rebrand is not just about the way the plane looks, as I have said before 90% of an airlines branding is in the airport, offices, gates, aircraft interiors, uniforms etc. many passengers probably don't even notice the outside of the plane and in the case of LH they have got it completely right. Congratulations to the design team and LH board.


Sorry, but that is utter crap. Or utter froth at best.
The livery -being the single, most visible piece of any design concept- is the MAIN and BIGGEST part of any rebranding exercise. It's what all the fuss AND THE $$$ is about! Not a tablecloth, or a coffee pot with a logo on. Nor a headrest antimacassar or an amenity kit box. The rest are mere "ancillaries"...tickets, counters, cutlery, offices, etc.. The 'splashes' of yellow everyone keeps on mentioning are exactly what makes the rest of the rebranding much more appreciated by everybody...The 'splashes' ["to surprise the passenger"] are the only saving grace of an otherwise very dull design concept. And the splashes are the one marginally successful thing right because these still embrace the LH image&spirit, and they do so by using -you guessed it! - the yellow colour! So, It's exactly the opposite of what you say. Doubt you'd find any design expert who would agree with you...
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:45 am

AirbusOnly wrote:
...."modern state of art livery ".....^


Sorry, above hyperbolic oxymoron does not belong where the new LH non-livery is being discussed :wave:
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:50 am

You think this is bad, imagine landing at MUC or FRA once the entire fleet is repainted.
 
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:54 am

seahawk wrote:
And if you look at the whole rebranding (websites, mobile apps, etc.) it is very well done. Who cares about a livery today anyway?


Exactly, nobody. Especially the people inside of the plane since they cannot see the outside of it anyway.
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Re: LH A350 New Colors - Hideous!

Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:55 am

Goodyear wrote:
The sad part is, the individual who was responsible for this horrendous rebrand probably got promoted.

By the way I am not so sure about that. After about two weeks they realized they didn't pick the right colour. Whenever we discuss something that went wrong there will be at least one member, usually from North America, who will comment "Someone has to be fired!". Well, that's not how it works in Germany but I am sure someone had some sleepless nights after getting some critical questions from LH's management...

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