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NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:06 am
by gsg013
Could we get a list going of NetJets fleet and tail numbers by aircraft type? Have never seen an exact breakdown of the fleet showing how many of each type of plane they are operating.

Also I often see G550's in NetJets liveries but when you look at their website in the US they seem to have G450 and not G550 (at least in the US) are all the NetJets G550's part of their european subsidiary?

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:32 am
by lightsaber
I'll 2nd the question. I know Netjets operates G550s for wealthy individuals (individuals who outright own the G550, but use Netjets crew), but when searching the services, few Gulfstream aircraft showed up.
Netjets sells the experience, not so much the aircraft. I'm not surprised at how little information for us enthusiasts there is.

I noted quite a few aircraft not shown. Could it be the fractional shares of those frames sold? The G550 has been superceeded by the Global 6000 for years, so it probably is that Netjets is not marketing the type.
I'd love to know the trends at Netjets.

Lightsaber

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:06 am
by MO11
gsg013 wrote:
Could we get a list going of NetJets fleet and tail numbers by aircraft type? Have never seen an exact breakdown of the fleet showing how many of each type of plane they are operating.

Also I often see G550's in NetJets liveries but when you look at their website in the US they seem to have G450 and not G550 (at least in the US) are all the NetJets G550's part of their european subsidiary?



EJA:
BD-100 - 54
BD-700 - 24
CE-560 - 88
CE-750 - 24
CE-680A - 43
CL-600 - 17
FALCON-2000 - 20
FALCON-2000EX - 5
EMB-505 - 63
G-IV - 17
G-V - 6
HAWKER-900XP - 8

EJM:
BD-100 - 8
BD-700 - 13
CE-560 - 7
CE-750 - 5
CL-600 - 4
CL-604 - 4
FALCON - 5
FALCON-2000EX - 1
EMB-135 - 3
G-V - 8
G-VI - 4
G200 - 6
ASTRA - 1
LR-45 - 3
LR-60 - 3
HAWKER-800XP - 5
HAWKER-900XP - 1

Netjets Transportes Aereos:
BD-700 - 7
FALCON-2000EX - 10
G-500 - 8
HAWKER-750 - 4
HAWKER-800XP - 14

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:42 am
by canyonblue17
As a photographer at one of NetJets hubs - PBI - I have numerous photos of their aircraft. Just take a look at PBI photos and you will see everything from their Gulfstreams and Challengers to their Sovereigns and Phenoms.









Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:20 am
by deltadudejg
So my time working at Signature we got to see the general entire fleet of NetJets. The simple break down is, there is the US NetJets and Euro Netjets. They were slowly retiring the older Citation 560s and XLs some Sovereigns and replacing them with the new Citation Latitude. The G450/550 line was slowly being retired for the Global. The Falcon 2000s were also being replaced with the Challenger 350/650. There are US registered G550s that are seperate from the Euro 550s. Now that being all said I have never seen any website that has the full list of their aircraft. I know though that they have the largest fleet of private aircraft in the US.

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:55 am
by TedToToe
When did the BBJs go?

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:05 pm
by gsg013
Thank you all for the responses very insightful.

Interesting to me that they have really jumped on the Bombardier Global Express bandwagon at the expense of the Gulfstreams.

Completely understand it from a comfort standpoint the Globals having a much wider cabin than the Gulfstream however so many business execs know the gulfstream name and might like the G450 or 550.

Also found it surprising that NetJets never ordered the G650/G650ER

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:50 pm
by MO11
TedToToe wrote:
When did the BBJs go?


About 10 years ago, new management elected not to continue with the program. When the leases expired, that was it. Last one left around 2010.

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:04 pm
by kitplane01
canyonblue17 wrote:
As a photographer at one of NetJets hubs - PBI - I have numerous photos of their aircraft. Just take a look at PBI photos and you will see everything from their Gulfstreams and Challengers to their Sovereigns and Phenoms.



What is a netjets hub? They don't have a regular route structure, and they don't fly their pilots home at night. I assume it's a maintenence hub? How many of them does netflix have?

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:10 pm
by e38
canyonblue17, when photographing at PBI, how do you know which corporate aircraft are being operated by NetJets? Do they use a "NetJets" callsign?

Also, when listening to ATC, I know some corporate operators use a "Dotcom" callsign, which I understand is so the actual identity of the company cannot be traced. Do NetJets operations occasionally use the "Dotcom" callsign at the request of the client?

Also, do you have information concerning what a typical monthly schedule would be for a NetJets pilot, i.e., how many nights away from home, how many days on duty during a month, etc?

e38

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:34 pm
by MO11
e38 wrote:
canyonblue17, when photographing at PBI, how do you know which corporate aircraft are being operated by NetJets? Do they use a "NetJets" callsign?

Also, when listening to ATC, I know some corporate operators use a "Dotcom" callsign, which I understand is so the actual identity of the company cannot be traced. Do NetJets operations occasionally use the "Dotcom" callsign at the request of the client?


e38



I'll step in here...it's "Execjet" plus the numeric of the N number.

Your assessment of Dotcom is correct...private operators file through fltplan.com and are assigned a "flight number" in order to mask the N number. But since NetJets already uses a flight number, it is unlikely that one would know who would be on a given NetJets flight.

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:02 pm
by airkas1
In Europe, they use the callsign 'Fraction'.

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:58 pm
by deltadudejg
Dotcom is when pilots use https://www.fltplan.com/ to file a flight plan. I have seen a handful of ex-NetJets aircraft still retaining the QS registration but using the Dotcom callsign

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:07 pm
by TedToToe
deltadudejg wrote:
I have seen a handful of ex-NetJets aircraft still retaining the QS registration but using the Dotcom callsign

Just a Fraction, then!

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:24 am
by mffoda
gsg013 wrote:
Thank you all for the responses very insightful.

Interesting to me that they have really jumped on the Bombardier Global Express bandwagon at the expense of the Gulfstreams.

Completely understand it from a comfort standpoint the Globals having a much wider cabin than the Gulfstream however so many business execs know the gulfstream name and might like the G450 or 550.

Also found it surprising that NetJets never ordered the G650/G650ER



Not sure what your agenda is??

But, were not taking B737/A320 here, the .8 of an inch in seat width doesn't apply here.

The comfort level of the Gulfstream jets that I see everyday is Never exceeded by any other jet manufacturer. On par? sure... But not any better!

One only has to look at used jet prices to see who is king in this market (year/hours/cycles)...

Re: NetJets Fleet

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:39 pm
by gsg013
mffoda wrote:

Not sure what your agenda is??

But, were not taking B737/A320 here, the .8 of an inch in seat width doesn't apply here.

The comfort level of the Gulfstream jets that I see everyday is Never exceeded by any other jet manufacturer. On par? sure... But not any better!

One only has to look at used jet prices to see who is king in this market (year/hours/cycles)...


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I agree that the seat width is not a huge issue. My point is that NetJets is adding a lot more Globals instead of new Gulfstreams.

From a personal jet standpoint I agree with you that Gulfstreams have seemed to hold their values the best over the years.

I believe the new series of G500 G600 G650 will only make gulfstream more competitive due to the increased cabin width and height.