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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:22 am

In the light of the recent incident of extreme turbulence in Air India's flight from Amritsar to Delhi, Was the flight attendant right in trying to fix the broken window panel herself?
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Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:41 am

PwC predicts Jewar airport will handle 100m passengers by 2050
http://www.zeebiz.com/india/news-jewar- ... port-44210

I think it will reach the 100m mark much earlier than 2050
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Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:10 am

Seems like Non stop flights to the US from BLR will happen soon and also has the highest yields in India....
https://twitter.com/BLRAirport/status/9 ... 6797746177
 
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Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:35 am

sand26391 wrote:
Seems like Non stop flights to the US from BLR will happen soon and also has the highest yields in India....
https://twitter.com/BLRAirport/status/9 ... 6797746177

Still there is time and we can strive to make DEL BOM BLR as the next DXB AUH DOH. We can do it without government subsidies.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:22 am

unrave wrote:
PwC predicts Jewar airport will handle 100m passengers by 2050
http://www.zeebiz.com/india/news-jewar- ... port-44210

I think it will reach the 100m mark much earlier than 2050


Fantastic to see growth spread to underserved areas! About time!
 
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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:28 am

VT- ALW Air India's latest B777-300ER is out of service nowadays. Is it away for VIP fitments?
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:37 am

Any chance we'll see an Indian airline serving Switzerland again ? AI started GVA around 1948 and stayed on for about 50 years while ZRH was also served simultanously for 2 shorter periods. If there is enough demand between India and CPH, VIE etc, I'd immagine it should also be the case between India and Switzerland. Any thoughts on that ?
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:04 am

hynithuchi wrote:
Any chance we'll see an Indian airline serving Switzerland again ? AI started GVA around 1948 and stayed on for about 50 years while ZRH was also served simultanously for 2 shorter periods. If there is enough demand between India and CPH, VIE etc, I'd immagine it should also be the case between India and Switzerland. Any thoughts on that ?


I believe it is only a matter of time before there is direct air connectivity between India and Switzerland. Among non European countries only the US and China send more tourists to Switzerland than India.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:16 am

unrave wrote:
hynithuchi wrote:
Any chance we'll see an Indian airline serving Switzerland again ? AI started GVA around 1948 and stayed on for about 50 years while ZRH was also served simultanously for 2 shorter periods. If there is enough demand between India and CPH, VIE etc, I'd immagine it should also be the case between India and Switzerland. Any thoughts on that ?


I believe it is only a matter of time before there is direct air connectivity between India and Switzerland. Among non European countries only the US and China send more tourists to Switzerland than India.

Well, I never realised there were more Indian visitors to Switzerland than Japanese or Chinese, Good to hear this and obviously something may happen in the future. However with daily flights from ZRH to DEL and BOM and the ME3 carriers, I suppose the demand is well covered for the time being. Still, it would be nice to see an Indian airline to shake up this cosy market sharing by LX and the ME3.
 
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:37 pm

hynithuchi wrote:
Any chance we'll see an Indian airline serving Switzerland again ? AI started GVA around 1948 and stayed on for about 50 years while ZRH was also served simultanously for 2 shorter periods. If there is enough demand between India and CPH, VIE etc, I'd immagine it should also be the case between India and Switzerland. Any thoughts on that ?


You are referring to the Air India that used BOM for its principal operations with its HQ at Nariman Point; the current aavatar is of the airline being run out of Rajiv Gandhi Bhavan where everything got moved from BOM to DEL. The main issue of running a 'hub' out of DEL for AI is that everything being equal, DEL is just one option among others. For 1-hop, one could take several options such as ME3, Turkish and so forth.

For Indian metal to pick some of the traffic back, they need to compete either on price, connectivity, service, loyalty. In neither of these metrics, AI will be competitive. Best is to wait for some LCC to offer non-stops during the summer to S/C Europe on MAX/A321. Even ME3 will find it hard to compete with that.
 
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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:44 am

Some updates on Mumbai's upcoming airport (NMIA)

https://www.moneylife.in/article/the-is ... 53857.html
Even I agree with some of the people who commented on that article. It should be named after JRD Tata since He is the founder of our Indian aviation industry.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/cidco-wor ... ty-by-2019
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 902552.cms
Looks like for the first time political pressure is leading to something good.
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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:02 pm

binayak wrote:
Some updates on Mumbai's upcoming airport (NMIA)
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/cidco-wor ... ty-by-2019
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 902552.cms
Looks like for the first time political pressure is leading to something good.


You are correct, MH normally was very tardy when it came to land acquisition for public works. It does appear that some of the usual impediments have been removed. Give Fadnavis some credit.
 
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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:49 pm

Aditya Ghosh has quit IndiGo. Rahul Bhatia to take over as interim CEO
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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:07 am

Maybe Ghosh will tie up with a private equity to buy Air India.
 
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Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:11 am

Ghosh will probably be a partner with the new airline that Qatar Airways is planning for India.
 
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Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:35 pm

By all accounts, Aditya Ghosh has been one of the more successful airline executives. His main blemish is the flaw in NEO's, not entirely of his making.

Perhaps the timing is crucial; as others have alluded, he has a plan B.
 
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Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:58 pm

As long as Airbus/PW paying compensation, there is no blemish. There are 100s of RR T1000s with issues six years into EIS. Several 787s are grounded. GTF is still young, he cannot be blamed.

Or he didn't achieve quarterly passenger beating numbers goal, they need a UA guy.
 
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Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:14 pm

Yes, there is risk in starting a totally new engine concept. However, the way one manages is not to let it loose any and all places. You manage it between stations where you have maintenance infra.

Perhaps, 6E never had this infra. And that would be on Aditya Ghosh.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:29 am

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Ghosh will probably be a partner with the new airline that Qatar Airways is planning for India.


Exactly my thoughts. It was reported earlier that Qatar was head hunting and they could surely use his experience in starting a new airline.
 
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Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:37 am

13 airports, in Rajkot, Nagpur, Patna, Leh, Dehradun, Bagdogra, Jammu, Port Blair, Imphal, Agartala, Guwahati, Jaipur and Coimbatore, are handling far more passengers than they were designed for
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 07736.html

The biggest threat that Indian aviation faces is inadequate airport infrastructure across the country.
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Wed May 02, 2018 12:54 pm

IndiGo Q4 profits plunge 73%
6E reported Q4 results today. Some key figures:
19.6% revenue growth
20.9% ASK growth
5.6% yield decline
73.3% PAT decline

Excerpts from analyst call:
Profit decline was result of industry wide yield discounting, especially in the 0-15 days advance booking window. Hopeful of strengthening in Q1
1% of capacity for the quarter was grounded due to neo issues. All aircraft fly currently.
~40 ceos are on short term 3-4 year leases from the secondary market, to be returned when neos start coming in
Neo deliveries to resume in May
FY19 capacity addition of 25% ASK, mix of ATRs, A320neos and A321neos
Looking to add 5 new destinations this year. Will operate 20 routes under UDAN
Still studying international long haul opportunity. Too early to share anything substantial
Pulled out of AI bid as govt was unwilling to carve out international ops

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This had to happen. 20% yoy growth can be sustained for only so long. The good 4 year run for the industry is coming to a close with the hardening of fuel prices. I won't be surprised if 9W posts a loss in this quarter. IndiGo is unlikely to fly long haul anytime soon.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Wed May 02, 2018 1:32 pm

Mumbai Airport , as earlier predicted by CAPA , has exceeded its design capacity with an annual traffic of 48.5 million. Growth in int'l traffic was more than domestic in BOM.
Probably due to multiple additions in 2017 ( AC YYZ-BOM , 9W's third LHR , KLM AMS-BOM ) . The airport operator MIAL is trying to extend the capacity to 60 million ( highly unlikely 55 million will be a better target ).
Now all eyes on NMIA project.
the govt is getting too aggressive which might help speed up the project. Lets hope the PAPs shift fast and stop protesting despite being given all facilities.
http://indianexpress.com/article/cities ... a-5157713/
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Wed May 02, 2018 1:34 pm

Seems like Airasia India CEO has also resigned.
'AirAsia India CEO Amar Abrol steps down; to move to parent firm’s group headquarters.'

https://www.financialexpress.com/indust ... o/1153025/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Wed May 02, 2018 1:34 pm

Considering indigo has added ATRs, started many new stations, the troubles with PW, Bring aircrafts on Wet lease, Dry lease 12 year old planes, drop in Profit was kinda expected. I don't think it will affect their international plans, that's definitely going ahead.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Wed May 02, 2018 2:02 pm

Hello, New person in the forum

Can some one help me understand why Air India does not attempt Dreamliner flights to USA or Canada. Qantas flies from Perth to London direct and Air Canada can fly their Dreamliners to Delhi non-stop
 
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Wed May 02, 2018 2:43 pm

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Hello, New person in the forum

Can some one help me understand why Air India does not attempt Dreamliner flights to USA or Canada. Qantas flies from Perth to London direct and Air Canada can fly their Dreamliners to Delhi non-stop

Welcome to A.net!!

The dreamliner word is used for both B 787-8 and 787-9. AI has 787-8 which doesn't have the range to do India US non stops without payload issues. So it is better for AI to use 777 for US and 787 for EU.
QF uses 787-9 variant which has the range to fly ultra long haul routes. So they deploy that aircraft for flights to LHR , LAX etc.
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Thu May 03, 2018 5:16 am

Some airport construction news coming in:
AAI has approved terminal expansion plans for MAA, LKO and GAU. While the plans and their renders look slick previous experience with MAA suggests the final product could be decidedly sub standard.

Jewar airport has received the final nod from the centre. Construction will begin in 2019 and likely to become operational just in time when DEL becomes saturated
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Thu May 03, 2018 6:16 am

unrave wrote:
Some airport construction news coming in:
AAI has approved terminal expansion plans for MAA, LKO and GAU. While the plans and their renders look slick previous experience with MAA suggests the final product could be decidedly sub standard.

Jewar airport has received the final nod from the centre. Construction will begin in 2019 and likely to become operational just in time when DEL becomes saturated

If DEL is getting a fourth runway by 2020 how can it become saturated?
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Thu May 03, 2018 6:26 am

Is there domestic transfers at Lucknow Airport. Thank you
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 7:26 am

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If DEL is getting a fourth runway by 2020 how can it become saturated?

The ultimate design capacity of DEL is 110m. Assuming a modest 10% annual growth and a 20% higher than capacity ops DEL will become saturated by 2025-26
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Thu May 03, 2018 7:56 am

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Is there domestic transfers at Lucknow Airport. Thank you

No, it is not present. The new T3 is likely to change that.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Thu May 03, 2018 8:14 am

unrave wrote:
binayak wrote:
If DEL is getting a fourth runway by 2020 how can it become saturated?

The ultimate design capacity of DEL is 110m. Assuming a modest 10% annual growth and a 20% higher than capacity ops DEL will become saturated by 2025-26

I would love to see an ATL in India. DEL will be it. However jewar is 74 kms from DEL IGIA. Wonder whether it can be considered as "Delhi airport".
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Thu May 03, 2018 1:26 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/LiveFromALou ... 2591388673
Quite excited to see the first MAX in the Indian skies. Nice reply to the neo users.
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Thu May 03, 2018 1:32 pm

binayak wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/LiveFromALounge/status/992023832591388673
Quite excited to see the first MAX in the Indian skies. Nice reply to the neo users.


Yes finally, I have been waiting for this moment since quite a few years now, I really hope to also see a B789 for 9W by next year.
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 2:13 pm

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Visvakrt wrote:
Is there domestic transfers at Lucknow Airport. Thank you

No, it is not present. The new T3 is likely to change that.

So should I pick my luggage, come out and check-in again.
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 4:54 pm

Visvakrt wrote:
anubhav787 wrote:
Visvakrt wrote:
Is there domestic transfers at Lucknow Airport. Thank you

No, it is not present. The new T3 is likely to change that.

So should I pick my luggage, come out and check-in again.

Bags can be transferred, but you have to physically re-enter the airport.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Thu May 03, 2018 5:24 pm

Really hoping Navi Mumbai International Airport and Jet's B789 come together to build a great network!

Slash787 wrote:
binayak wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/LiveFromALounge/status/992023832591388673
Quite excited to see the first MAX in the Indian skies. Nice reply to the neo users.


Yes finally, I have been waiting for this moment since quite a few years now, I really hope to also see a B789 for 9W by next year.
 
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Thu May 03, 2018 5:59 pm

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 008400.cms

Qatar Air to apply soon to start airline in India

Possibly why Aditya Ghosh resigned?
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 6:25 am

Came to know from LiveFromALounge that 9W's 737 max will have 12J 162Y configuration. 6 more Y than their current 738NG. Pretty good one I think. Nice that unlike vistara they didn't go for Y+ which is a complete failure in domestic Indian market from revenue perspective.
Some product changes are also on the cards.
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Sun May 06, 2018 3:49 am

Jet Airways to drop first class
http://www.thehindu.com/business/jet-ai ... 787154.ece

Good sense has finally prevailed
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Sun May 06, 2018 5:49 am

Xetron wrote:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/qatar-air-to-apply-soon-to-start-airline-in-india/articleshow/64008400.cms

Qatar Air to apply soon to start airline in India

Possibly why Aditya Ghosh resigned?


Exactly what I thought of as well.

There was a talk between Qatar and Indigo working on some sort of deal a year ago or so which didnt materialise.

Perhaps that is where Aditya Gosh is headed perhaps. We will know in the near future I guess.
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 5:52 am

Meanwhile an interesting article regarding AI below.

"Find a buyer fast or lose Air India: Top aviation consultant's grim note to Modi.

In a grim note for India, the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, a leading aviation consultancy, feared that Air India could head for two-year loss of $1.5 to 2 billion and the failure to divest could see the airline closing down."

https://m.economictimes.com/aviation/ai ... 039068.cms
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 7:22 am

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Jet Airways to drop first class
http://www.thehindu.com/business/jet-ai ... 787154.ece

Good sense has finally prevailed

First class is mostly for those airlines who don't have a great J cabin. That said 9W 's J is good enough so as not to justify F in their planes. Let's see how is their upgraded J class.
Even privatized AI should nix F. (I highly doubt how many premium pax even prefer AI F or they just fly it to gain miles.)
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Sun May 06, 2018 9:47 am

So well this question is out of no where, but I was curios and wondering that if Kingfisher was active and had taken their A380's, what routes they would have used it on? The ones which are coming in my mind are LHR, JFK and SIN. Maybe DXB too?
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 10:54 am

Slash787 wrote:
So well this question is out of no where, but I was curios and wondering that if Kingfisher was active and had taken their A380's, what routes they would have used it on? The ones which are coming in my mind are LHR, JFK and SIN. Maybe DXB too?

That is beyond anyone's imagination. Would have depended on the seating configuration of those jumbos. LHR is a possibility given the high premium traffic. DXB is out of question because they would've been carrying only O&D pax. Over the world except ME3, airlines deploy A380s only in routes which are highly competitive and have a good number of high yielding pax because obviously your finest product will be in that A380. That said high yielding traffic from India even in routes like DEL/BOM LHR is nothing compared to routes like LHR HKG or MEL LAX which have A380s .
To conclude unless KF was about to follow an EK type model of developing a transit hub in India, it would have been quite difficult for them to make money with the A380.
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Sun May 06, 2018 3:15 pm

I’m actually surprised 9W can’t make F work on certain routes (I think they need 4 seats not 8 in F). Flights to say the US are so long, I would imagine that very senior executives would qualify for F. To me all BOM-LHR flights plus BOM-CDG (because AF has F to connect to) and maybe BOM-HKG. Maybe it’s not worth having a small sub fleet with F. If 9W does get rid of F, I really think they need a premium Econ. Even three rows would be fine.
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 4:48 pm

binayak wrote:
unrave wrote:
Jet Airways to drop first class
http://www.thehindu.com/business/jet-ai ... 787154.ece

Good sense has finally prevailed

First class is mostly for those airlines who don't have a great J cabin. That said 9W 's J is good enough so as not to justify F in their planes. Let's see how is their upgraded J class.
Even privatized AI should nix F. (I highly doubt how many premium pax even prefer AI F or they just fly it to gain miles.)

What?!!

CX and SQ have way better Business products than most airlines in the world and still have stunning First classes....

Face it, India just does not have enough wealthy travelers.
 
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Sun May 06, 2018 5:57 pm

Kashmon wrote:
binayak wrote:
unrave wrote:
Jet Airways to drop first class
http://www.thehindu.com/business/jet-ai ... 787154.ece

Good sense has finally prevailed

First class is mostly for those airlines who don't have a great J cabin. That said 9W 's J is good enough so as not to justify F in their planes. Let's see how is their upgraded J class.
Even privatized AI should nix F. (I highly doubt how many premium pax even prefer AI F or they just fly it to gain miles.)

What?!!

CX and SQ have way better Business products than most airlines in the world and still have stunning First classes....

Face it, India just does not have enough wealthy travelers.

I used the word "mostly" not "all". I didn't count SQ CX etc. I referred to BA, LH etc.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - 2018 (2)

Sun May 06, 2018 10:28 pm

More nonstop ATQ-BHX flights coming, route must be doing well
 
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Mon May 07, 2018 4:48 am

What is your view on Air Asia India international operations ?
Where they shall start flying from ? I am quite sure most of their international ops will focus on KUL connection
It would be interesting to see if they decide to fly from Tier-2 cities to KUL, thus avoiding directing competition with Air Asia (AK) flights (and thus keeping fare high).
Which Tier-2 cities you think will be added to KUL connection map ?
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