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How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:13 am

According to Airfleets EK has 102 active A380s, with none stored. But I recently read some anecdotes that in reality only 60 are actually active and flying, with another 40 stored/grounded in various places (they named China) because of high operational costs and low loads.

How true is this?
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:15 am

Not true. Between April 10-11 (48 hour period) 94 380s were/are in operation, operating 155 flights.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:51 am

I'm not sure if any are stored, but this site is an excellent site to track the EK fleet, and it's updated daily:
http://theeksource.com/jettracker.html

A quick search on Flightradar24 shows 54 EK A380s in the air as I'm typing, which to me suggests all are being used, assuming the rest of them are in Dubai preparing for other flights or resting after completed flights. 54 out of 102 in the air sounds to me like a reasonable number as a snapshot in time.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:58 am

All will be flying bar what's being maintained.

It's the 777 fleet that sees aircradt stored.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:16 am

Arion640 wrote:

It's the 777 fleet that sees aircradt stored.


I'm still new to how all this works, why would any of the 777s need to be stored? Are they older equipment waiting to be returned/sold/scrapped?
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:28 am

I believe the only time EK grounded their fleets in large scale is when DUB was down to 1 runway operation when they refurbish another one.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:29 am

I've flown Heathrow to Auckland round trip 8 times in the past year, 7 of those trips on Emirates A380s.

They are *always* full - Business and Economy. A couple free seats here and there, but definitely more an 95% full.

If they can fill A380s consistently on a route to New Zealand, I'd be hard pressed to not believe they can fill them everywhere else they fly them.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:32 am

TheRotiJohn wrote:
Arion640 wrote:

It's the 777 fleet that sees aircradt stored.


I'm still new to how all this works, why would any of the 777s need to be stored? Are they older equipment waiting to be returned/sold/scrapped?


It is a combination of factors. Some could be getting prepared to be sent back to lessors, some could be in maintainnce while some aircraft maybe grounded temporarily during off peak travel seasons such as April-May.

Again, based on the 48 hour period, all 10 LRs and 121 of the 139 ERs have been active and operating flights.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:51 am

AirIndia wrote:

Again, based on the 48 hour period, all 10 LRs and 121 of the 139 ERs have been active and operating flights.


Is there a place where I can view this data? Is it from FR24?
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:59 am

hongkongflyer wrote:
I believe the only time EK grounded their fleets in large scale is when DUB was down to 1 runway operation when they refurbish another one.


I didn't realise reduced Operations at Dublin had such an affect on Emirates ops.

Jokes aside, this is going to happen again sometime next year.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:03 am

hongkongflyer wrote:
I believe the only time EK grounded their fleets in large scale is when DUB was down to 1 runway operation when they refurbish another one.


Don't you just hate it when Dublin runway work affects the EK 380 fleet ....
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:04 am

Arion640 wrote:
hongkongflyer wrote:
I believe the only time EK grounded their fleets in large scale is when DUB was down to 1 runway operation when they refurbish another one.


I didn't realise reduced Operations at Dublin had such an affect on Emirates ops.

Jokes aside, this is going to happen again sometime next year.


...ahhhh you beat me to the joke... lol :lol:
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 am

I havent heard or read anywhere that EK stored an A380. its mainly the B777s which gets stored due to the reasons mentioned above.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:49 am

TheRotiJohn wrote:
AirIndia wrote:

Again, based on the 48 hour period, all 10 LRs and 121 of the 139 ERs have been active and operating flights.


Is there a place where I can view this data? Is it from FR24?


FR24 is a good source!
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:46 am

Echo comments above. It's also good to remember that around 8-10% of the fleet will be grounded at any one time for routine maintenance. Over and above this there may be groundings for aircraft being pulled out of service and being prepared for sale to another carrier.
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:50 am

moo wrote:
I've flown Heathrow to Auckland round trip 8 times in the past year, 7 of those trips on Emirates A380s.

They are *always* full - Business and Economy. A couple free seats here and there, but definitely more an 95% full.

If they can fill A380s consistently on a route to New Zealand, I'd be hard pressed to not believe they can fill them everywhere else they fly them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the DXB-AKL route restricted to about 350 pax for the A380 due to payload limitations on this stage length?
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:59 am

TheRotiJohn wrote:
According to Airfleets EK has 102 active A380s, with none stored. But I recently read some anecdotes that in reality only 60 are actually active and flying, with another 40 stored/grounded in various places (they named China) because of high operational costs and low loads.

How true is this?


Careful John how you phrase such questions. People round here might call you out for flamebating....
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:27 pm

frigatebird wrote:
moo wrote:
I've flown Heathrow to Auckland round trip 8 times in the past year, 7 of those trips on Emirates A380s.

They are *always* full - Business and Economy. A couple free seats here and there, but definitely more an 95% full.

If they can fill A380s consistently on a route to New Zealand, I'd be hard pressed to not believe they can fill them everywhere else they fly them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the DXB-AKL route restricted to about 350 pax for the A380 due to payload limitations on this stage length?


If restricted to 350 PAX, why is the A380 used over the 77W? Surely the 77W can fly 350 PAX on that sector?
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:39 pm

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If they can fill A380s consistently on a route to New Zealand, I'd be hard pressed to not believe they can fill them everywhere else they fly them.

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Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:40 pm

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TheRotiJohn wrote:
According to Airfleets EK has 102 active A380s, with none stored. But I recently read some anecdotes that in reality only 60 are actually active and flying, with another 40 stored/grounded in various places (they named China) because of high operational costs and low loads.

How true is this?


Careful John how you phrase such questions. People round here might call you out for flamebating....


Every other week someone starts a new thread on this topic, it takes a week or two of real hard work by PR to keep it sanitized and finally get it closed. As soon as they breathe with a sigh of relief, another one pops up.
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:48 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:

Every other week someone starts a new thread on this topic, it takes a week or two of real hard work by PR to keep it sanitized and finally get it closed. As soon as they breathe with a sigh of relief, another one pops up.


Well the quotes here check out with the sleuthing I've done with Google Earth and FR24, so there's really no reason for the PR peeps to worry.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:26 pm

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If restricted to 350 PAX, why is the A380 used over the 77W? Surely the 77W can fly 350 PAX on that sector?


Correct me if I'm understanding you wrong but the route isn't restricted to 350 PAX because there's some kind of rule saying you can only fly 350 people on such long sectors but because of the payload-range tradeoff:

If the A380 has its payload compromised in order to be able to fly such a distance the B77W will definitely do so as well because its overall range is over 800nm shorter than the A380's, meaning that if you were to put a B77W on that route it would be weight restricted to even less than 350 PAX.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:05 pm

I flew EK004 on Monday night (A6-EEA)....Economy was about 50% occupied, which was rather nice in terms of space and service. Crew member told me Business was near full.
On the ground at DXB there were 4nr A380's parked nose to tail between the Northern hangers plus a couple of others parked in front. I have to say
the four looked more like they were in storage than parked although wonder were these the new RR birds which have been giving EK a bit of gyp?

For reference EK770 down to CPT (77W) was packed to the rafters.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:10 pm

shankly wrote:
I flew EK004 on Monday night (A6-EEA)....Economy was about 50% occupied, which was rather nice in terms of space and service. Crew member told me Business was near full.
On the ground at DXB there were 4nr A380's parked nose to tail between the Northern hangers plus a couple of others parked in front. I have to say
the four looked more like they were in storage than parked although wonder were these the new RR birds which have been giving EK a bit of gyp?

For reference EK770 down to CPT (77W) was packed to the rafters.

If business is full, the flight makes a profit.
Isn't this EK's low season?

We've discussed before that those 4 parking slots at DXB are for cleaning and A checks.

EK is not making the money they used to as low oil prices have hit regional demand.

They now have A380 approaching end of lease. Some might be returned.

Don't worry, EK will remain the Aviation boggyman until TK outgrows them. Cest la vie.

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Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:32 pm

Arion640 wrote:
hongkongflyer wrote:
I believe the only time EK grounded their fleets in large scale is when DUB was down to 1 runway operation when they refurbish another one.


I didn't realise reduced Operations at Dublin had such an affect on Emirates ops.

Jokes aside, this is going to happen again sometime next year.


bhxdtw wrote:
hongkongflyer wrote:
I believe the only time EK grounded their fleets in large scale is when DUB was down to 1 runway operation when they refurbish another one.


Don't you just hate it when Dublin runway work affects the EK 380 fleet ....


Sorry it should be Dubai Airport DXB
 
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lugie wrote:
Lindegaard wrote:

If restricted to 350 PAX, why is the A380 used over the 77W? Surely the 77W can fly 350 PAX on that sector?


Correct me if I'm understanding you wrong but the route isn't restricted to 350 PAX because there's some kind of rule saying you can only fly 350 people on such long sectors but because of the payload-range tradeoff:

If the A380 has its payload compromised in order to be able to fly such a distance the B77W will definitely do so as well because its overall range is over 800nm shorter than the A380's, meaning that if you were to put a B77W on that route it would be weight restricted to even less than 350 PAX.

Yes, I read somewhere on this forum the A380 is payload compromised on the DXB-AKL route. Not sure about the 350 pax number though. Anyway, it would be more than the 266 pax which a 77L can carry. And with a bigger premium cabin, the A380 could conceivably be more profitable with its premium cabin full and economy less than 2/3rds full.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:55 pm

lightsaber wrote:

Don't worry, EK will remain the Aviation boggyman until TK outgrows them. Cest la vie.

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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:58 pm

I was on EK 381 last night from HKG to DXB, economy was full to the brim. EK has 3-4 flights daily from HKG.
Smooth flight and good service I gotta say.

I noticed EK is refining its product. Soon they get rid of the Gold they have on the paneling on the interiors. The website has no Gold. Also cabin crew has new luggage from Delsey which looks very smart. The uniform is a bit outdated though.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:04 pm

Any airline that can keep 100 A380s and >100 773ER busy and full is just incredible. Talk about exposure to fuel prices though...
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:28 pm

Flighty wrote:
Any airline that can keep 100 A380s and >100 773ER busy and full is just incredible. Talk about exposure to fuel prices though...


I'd have thought EK had a pretty good natural hedge when it comes to fuel prices. Low prices help them operate more cheaply, while high prices benefit the economy in their home market.
 
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frigatebird wrote:
lugie wrote:
Lindegaard wrote:

If restricted to 350 PAX, why is the A380 used over the 77W? Surely the 77W can fly 350 PAX on that sector?


Correct me if I'm understanding you wrong but the route isn't restricted to 350 PAX because there's some kind of rule saying you can only fly 350 people on such long sectors but because of the payload-range tradeoff:

If the A380 has its payload compromised in order to be able to fly such a distance the B77W will definitely do so as well because its overall range is over 800nm shorter than the A380's, meaning that if you were to put a B77W on that route it would be weight restricted to even less than 350 PAX.

Yes, I read somewhere on this forum the A380 is payload compromised on the DXB-AKL route. Not sure about the 350 pax number though. Anyway, it would be more than the 266 pax which a 77L can carry. And with a bigger premium cabin, the A380 could conceivably be more profitable with its premium cabin full and economy less than 2/3rds full.


I have some doubt about the A380 being payload restricted on DXB-AKL. That are 7,668 nm. The 757t MTOW A380 should have a still air range with reserves, 544 pax and luggage, of about 8,200 nm. That are 532 nm or 1 hour flight time more than nominal needed. At least east bound there should not be any limitations and westbound it should be OK in most weather conditions. The next best in range behind a 777-200LR or A340-500, is the A380.
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:39 pm

Currently 69 in the air. 19:30 DXB time on April 11. Seems pretty normal to me. That number is only going to go up during the next bank.

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Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:09 pm

Flighty wrote:
Talk about exposure to fuel prices though...

Lol!
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:18 pm

Flighty wrote:
Any airline that can keep 100 A380s and >100 773ER busy and full is just incredible. Talk about exposure to fuel prices though...


Are they exposed though? The A380 and 77W are the best CASM birds their size on the market. Sure the A35k will be better but that isnt available in quantity yet. Their network is globally diversified, pulling passengers from all corners and connecting them via 1 single, efficient, massive hub. They are no more exposed to fuel prices as any other airline.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:25 pm

I have some doubt about the A380 being payload restricted on DXB-AKL. That are 7,668 nm. The 757t MTOW A380 should have a still air range with reserves, 544 pax and luggage, of about 8,200 nm. That are 532 nm or 1 hour flight time more than nominal needed. At least east bound there should not be any limitations and westbound it should be OK in most weather conditions. The next best in range behind a 777-200LR or A340-500, is the A380.


Doubt all you like, it is payload restricted, to the order of 10-15 tonnes depending on the time of year. It can be up to 100 seats and the 380 needs to carry in excess of 220t of fuel to make the trip, how do I know? I’ve commanded the westbound sector numerous times.

Just to reiterate previous comments I’ve made, the 380s are running at close to maximum capacity, the 777s have between 10-15 airframes rotating through temporary storage.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:12 pm

All these rumors will be put to rest once EK's results come out. We will see their aircraft utilization, passenger/cargo carried, profit revenue etc. and will be able to draw our own conclusions - unless you doubt their numbers but that's a different story.

shankly wrote:
I flew EK004 on Monday night (A6-EEA)....Economy was about 50% occupied, which was rather nice in terms of space and service. Crew member told me Business was near full.
On the ground at DXB there were 4nr A380's parked nose to tail between the Northern hangers plus a couple of others parked in front. I have to say
the four looked more like they were in storage than parked although wonder were these the new RR birds which have been giving EK a bit of gyp?

For reference EK770 down to CPT (77W) was packed to the rafters.


A LHR flight that's 50% full? I'd be afraid to know loads on other routes during the low season...
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:22 pm

shankly wrote:
I flew EK004 on Monday night (A6-EEA)....Economy was about 50% occupied, which was rather nice in terms of space and service. Crew member told me Business was near full.
On the ground at DXB there were 4nr A380's parked nose to tail between the Northern hangers plus a couple of others parked in front. I have to say
the four looked more like they were in storage than parked although wonder were these the new RR birds which have been giving EK a bit of gyp?

For reference EK770 down to CPT (77W) was packed to the rafters.


It's nearly been a year since I last flew EK on the 4 which was near enough full at the time.
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:51 pm

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Doubt all you like, it is payload restricted, to the order of 10-15 tonnes depending on the time of year. It can be up to 100 seats and the 380 needs to carry in excess of 220t of fuel to make the trip, how do I know? I’ve commanded the westbound sector numerous times.

Just to reiterate previous comments I’ve made, the 380s are running at close to maximum capacity, the 777s have between 10-15 airframes rotating through temporary storage.

Interesting insight. Wow... 100 to 150 Y passengers must be offloaded...

That many 777s rotating through temporary storage is fascinating. The downside of people will fly when they want to and limited slots at those times at DXB.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:09 pm

I'm pretty sure 50 or so of them are stored at a remote airbase somewhere near the Tajikistan/China border along with the 777 from MH370
 
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:22 pm

I understand the lease-end variable use gimmick, but I don't buy for a second these are going through maintenance cycle. EK outsources MRO to the cheapest bidder who will complete D Check and engine overhaul in two weeks and Emirates Engineering is low are staff to do in-house.
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Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:28 pm

As per Tim Clark, it's more a problem of pilots rather than planes. Actually getting more A380s.

The airline is short about 100 to 150 pilots, forcing it to reduce the frequency of some routes to Florida in the United States this summer, Clark said. Chinese carriers in particular were offering extremly competitive packages for pilots, he said.

He said the shortage was a short-term situation, adding that Emirates has 170 pilots going through its cadetship programme.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-emir ... SKBN1HI272
 
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Jayafe wrote:
As per Tim Clark, it's more a problem of pilots rather than planes. Actually getting more A380s.

The airline is short about 100 to 150 pilots, forcing it to reduce the frequency of some routes to Florida in the United States this summer, Clark said. Chinese carriers in particular were offering extremly competitive packages for pilots, he said.

He said the shortage was a short-term situation, adding that Emirates has 170 pilots going through its cadetship programme.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-emir ... SKBN1HI272


As ever little Timmy is only being half truthful, try multiplying that number by 3 and it’s a little closer to the mark, his comment regarding the cadets is pure PR spin as the vast majority require huge amounts of line training and then continuation training before they can be released to line, which at around 7 per month covers about 1/4 of the ongoing resignations occurring at the moment.
Again as previously stated EK require over 800 new flightcrew this year to crew the rosters planned, perhaps 100 of those will be cadets but that doesn’t consider resignations and retirements which are running officially at almost 5%, in reality it’s closer to 7.5%.
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:54 am

About those cadets, I would hazard a guess landing A380/B77W is slightly different from landing an SR22/Phenom 100, even with the world's best training. It is not as pretty as poaching type rated pilots from other airlines.
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EDV is now "Under Maintenance" according to this source.
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TheRotiJohn wrote:
dtw2hyd wrote:

Every other week someone starts a new thread on this topic, it takes a week or two of real hard work by PR to keep it sanitized and finally get it closed. As soon as they breathe with a sigh of relief, another one pops up.


Well the quotes here check out with the sleuthing I've done with Google Earth and FR24, so there's really no reason for the PR peeps to worry.

Don't feed the troll........
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:36 am

emiratesdriver wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
As per Tim Clark, it's more a problem of pilots rather than planes. Actually getting more A380s.

The airline is short about 100 to 150 pilots, forcing it to reduce the frequency of some routes to Florida in the United States this summer, Clark said. Chinese carriers in particular were offering extremly competitive packages for pilots, he said.

He said the shortage was a short-term situation, adding that Emirates has 170 pilots going through its cadetship programme.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-emir ... SKBN1HI272


As ever little Timmy is only being half truthful, try multiplying that number by 3 and it’s a little closer to the mark, his comment regarding the cadets is pure PR spin as the vast majority require huge amounts of line training and then continuation training before they can be released to line, which at around 7 per month covers about 1/4 of the ongoing resignations occurring at the moment.
Again as previously stated EK require over 800 new flightcrew this year to crew the rosters planned, perhaps 100 of those will be cadets but that doesn’t consider resignations and retirements which are running officially at almost 5%, in reality it’s closer to 7.5%.
To all those who previously doubted my comments all I can say Is the headman has publically admitted this, it’s real and it’s getting worse day by day.


I'm actually shocked he'd admitted to a pilot shortage. Never thought Timmy would do that.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:40 am

TheRotiJohn..............................Welcome to A.net! I like your name - it's one of my favourite dish during my National Service days.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:56 am

moo wrote:
I've flown Heathrow to Auckland round trip 8 times in the past year, 7 of those trips on Emirates A380s.

They are *always* full - Business and Economy. A couple free seats here and there, but definitely more an 95% full.

If they can fill A380s consistently on a route to New Zealand, I'd be hard pressed to not believe they can fill them everywhere else they fly them.


Butts in seats doesn't mean profit. The westbound leg (AKL-DXB) has to take some sort of weight penalty. I'm still not convinced the 380 is the right a/c for some of the routes it's on. EK is never going to admit they may be flying money losing equipment on some routes.
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:10 am

Silly old Sir Tim.He keeps on buying these loss making aircaft.Cant imagine what he's thinking.
 
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Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:52 am

EvanWSFO wrote:
Butts in seats doesn't mean profit. The westbound leg (AKL-DXB) has to take some sort of weight penalty. I'm still not convinced the 380 is the right a/c for some of the routes it's on. EK is never going to admit they may be flying money losing equipment on some routes.


They might not, but it's not like EK has a lot of variety to choose from, the best horse available works.

parapente wrote:
Silly old Sir Tim.He keeps on buying these loss making aircaft.Cant imagine what he's thinking.


He buys them to make money, as he does, managing an airline that makes money. How's your owned airline doing btw?

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