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stlgph
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WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL, 1 fatality

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:13 pm

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/southwest-pl ... ly-airport

Anyone know more?

Fox5 NY has a webcam on it on the Facebook page - not much to see other than the usual array of emergency crews.

Flight started at LGA...
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:15 pm

Oooh, correction. The camera zoomed in. Engine is pretty banged up.

https://www.facebook.com/FOX5NY/?hc_ref ... B1NEz8wBgw
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:16 pm

 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:18 pm

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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:18 pm

One report I see says shrapnel entered the aircraft and injured at least one passenger. Yikes.
 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:20 pm

stlgph wrote:
No slides. People, for the most part, seem to be coming down the airstairs.

There was no need for an evacuation.
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:23 pm

if assumptions could fly, airliners.net would be the world's busiest airport
 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:24 pm

With all of the bickering that occurs amongst fanboys here, it's nice to see the AA stair truck and buses out assisting. I'm certain WN would return the favor at BWI or DEN.
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:24 pm

No slides. People, for the most part, seem to be coming down the airstairs.
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:24 pm

The aircraft appears to be N772SW, a 73G built in 2000.
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:33 pm

According to a passengers father, the shrapnel from the engine broke a window, which caused a “violent” decompression and a women was partially sucked out of the plane. Pax had to pull her back in.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/nationa ... B_BAYBrand
 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:36 pm

 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:36 pm

Saw a report saying jet engine parts went straight through one of the windows and hit a woman. Also caused rapid depressurization.

Pretty terrifying if true.
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:37 pm

They are reporting on CNN that pieces of the engine breached the cabin and injured a passenger. If that is true that's a serious incident!
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:38 pm

Whatever
 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:38 pm

Holy cow
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Lot's of damage to the engine and some to the wing.
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:43 pm

Pax on board said there's "blood everywhere".
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:44 pm

And here is the apparent damage to one of the windows.
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:47 pm

I don't see any large holes on the left side fuselage... not sure how someone could get sucked out.... ohhh I see a window is out... its possible then
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:50 pm

LightningZ71 wrote:
This part is quite shocking if true...

WCAU is reporting that the injured passenger had to be removed by emergency services THROUGH the window.

That's not something that you tend to see in most uncontained engine failures...


I'm going to bet that she was hanging out the window when the plane landed.

Reminds me of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_A ... light_5390
The captain was sucked out the window when the windshield failed. The FO landed the plane and all were shocked to find the captain alive when the plane landed. I'm hopeful that this is a similar result.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:51 pm

This part is quite shocking if true...

WCAU is reporting that the injured passenger had to be removed by emergency services THROUGH the window.

That's not something that you tend to see in most uncontained engine failures...
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:51 pm

"My SW flight from NYC to DAL just blew an engine and the window blew out mid flight. I just saw a human being fly out of a plane 40,000 feet above. I’ve never been more terrified in my life"

https://twitter.com/cassface321/status/ ... 9976086530
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:52 pm

Ten injured, one critical.

Also, FR24 showing N772SW doing BNA-LGA(WN2093) was diverted to JRB this morning. Maybe a data glitch.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:52 pm

Unbelievable pictures, definitely scary stuff. Kudos to the flight crew for getting it on the ground safely.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:53 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
Ten injured, one critical.

Also, FR24 showing N772SW doing BNA-LGA(WN2093) was diverted to JRB this morning. Maybe a data glitch.


JRB is a heliport, so yeah, obviously a glitch.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:54 pm

Holy cow, that is serious. Hoping the critical person can make a full recovery.

On another note, people think i'm a bit silly because i don't pick seats parallel to the engine. I'm either in the front or in the back, for this rare reason.
 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:55 pm

FriscoHeavy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/17/southwest-airlines-planes-engine-explodes-passenger-reportedly-hit-with-shrapnel.html



The extraordinary statement of the fox news story is that it reported that the injured passenger was removed from the aircraft THROUGH THE WINDOW. Up thread it was reported that she was almost sucked out of the plane. I have to wonder whether she completed the flight partially out the window, and emergency personnel though it would be less damaging to her to pull her all the way out.

Scary stuff.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:58 pm

Holy crap. That is one serious engine failure. Hoping the injured pax makes full recovery.
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:01 pm

Listening to LiveATC at 16:50 the pilot says "there is a hole and someone flew out" http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kphl/ ... -1500Z.mp3
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:02 pm

danj555 wrote:
I don't see any large holes on the left side fuselage... not sure how someone could get sucked out.... ohhh I see a window is out... its possible then


I bet that the pax on this flight will listen to the "keep your seat belts fastened" in the future.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:04 pm

So the plane landed, one person was injured, and everyone else is ok. Flight crew are trained to execute emergency landings. It's part of their job.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:04 pm

Wow! Nice job by the crew getting it on the ground safely. Hope the passenger will be able to recover.
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:07 pm

zrb2 wrote:
Holy cow, that is serious. Hoping the critical person can make a full recovery.

On another note, people think i'm a bit silly because i don't pick seats parallel to the engine. I'm either in the front or in the back, for this rare reason.



I have never thought about that on a jet aircraft. But I was on a dash 8 once right in line with the prop and couldn't help but think if that thing comes off I'm going first...I starred at the prop for most of the flight.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:07 pm

Yikes, yikes, yikes. Scary day for these passengers.

The extraordinary statement of the fox news story is that it reported that the injured passenger was removed from the aircraft THROUGH THE WINDOW. Up thread it was reported that she was almost sucked out of the plane. I have to wonder whether she completed the flight partially out the window, and emergency personnel though it would be less damaging to her to pull her all the way out.


It probably was less damaging because pushing her back inside would probably have higher risks for her head and neck depending on how far out of the window she was. I have to wonder how far out any adult human could possibly go since the window frame looked to be in tact. I can't imagine a human torso fitting in that thing even with the crazy conditions of flying at FL325.

Side Note: The link to the story on Fox29 shows a picture of passengers wearing the oxygen masks only over their mouth. Isn't that supposed to fit over your nose and mouth, hence "place the mask over your nose and mouth and secure the elastic band behind your head"?
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:09 pm

This will be an interesting investigation to follow.
 
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Re: WN emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:09 pm

bob75013 wrote:
FriscoHeavy wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/17/southwest-airlines-planes-engine-explodes-passenger-reportedly-hit-with-shrapnel.html



The extraordinary statement of the fox news story is that it reported that the injured passenger was removed from the aircraft THROUGH THE WINDOW. Up thread it was reported that she was almost sucked out of the plane. I have to wonder whether she completed the flight partially out the window, and emergency personnel though it would be less damaging to her to pull her all the way out.

Scary stuff.

Something like this has happened before about fourty years ago. The captain of a BA Bac 1-11 was sucked out and his colleagues held him at his legs until they had landed since they could not pull him back.

Would be interesting to see the left side of the aircraft.

Let’s hope the injured woman will recover from her injuries.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:09 pm

Looking at that picture, they had an AED out. That’s not a good sign for the passenger.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:11 pm

Has anyone looked at FR24? Their decent appeared very controlled and not erratic, as some passengers/media seem to be stating.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:12 pm

That's what I call an un-contained engine failure. Lets not assume its a MRO specific issue. There are a lot of reasons this could happen.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:12 pm

On a positive note, it's good to see how well the aircraft held together after the uncontained failure. It could have easily turned into a huge loss of life.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:18 pm

here's some tower audio from liveatc

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kphl/ ... -1500Z.mp3
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:20 pm

The heart attack passenger and the passenger who was partially sucked out might not be the same person. Multiple injuries.

I am confident that this was a controlled but very rapid descent. As we all know, when there is an explosive decompression, one of the pilots' primary tasks is to bring the aircraft down to an altitude at which the pax can breathe more normally (and in this case make the pressure differential such that the partially-ejected pax can be pulled back in). So it's gonna be fast, but controlled. Of course, most pax don't know this, hence the "We're going down!" stuff. The pilots aren't going to say anything; I wonder if it would be helpful for the f/as to be trained perhaps to announce something about the rapid descent. There may be a million reasons not to have them do this, but there are at least a few reasons that it would be helpful.
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:20 pm

Seems eerily similar to Southwest 3472, doesn't it?
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:21 pm

Video from onboard during emergency decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wyWpXGo5Yc
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:21 pm

They test these engines for failure. But it seems like when they fail in real life they are uncontrolled more often than not. That was a detonation. Lucky there wasnt more structural damage to the wing and fuselage.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:22 pm

SonomaFlyer wrote:
That's what I call an un-contained engine failure. Lets not assume its a MRO specific issue. There are a lot of reasons this could happen.

That's why UA has FlightTest operations, in air test flights after heavy maintenance.
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:23 pm

It looks as though this happened at 32,000 feet. It’s a minor miracle that only that window failed.
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:24 pm

dmtroyer wrote:
"My SW flight from NYC to DAL just blew an engine and the window blew out mid flight. I just saw a human being fly out of a plane 40,000 feet above. I’ve never been more terrified in my life"

https://twitter.com/cassface321/status/ ... 9976086530


"She was sucked out but was pulled back in."

https://twitter.com/cassface321/status/ ... 9871713280
 
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Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:26 pm

Elementalism wrote:
They test these engines for failure. But it seems like when they fail in real life they are uncontrolled more often than not. That was a detonation. Lucky there wasnt more structural damage to the wing and fuselage.


My anecdotal guess is that if it was contained it would be a non-event and we'd never hear about it.
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