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Caledonian Back?

Wed Aug 25, 1999 1:18 am

Hi. i have seen pictures of Caledonian DC-10s and L-1011s. Is Caledonian back in the scheduled market or just flying charters? I know they dont have "British" infront of Caledonian but is that who they are?
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RE: Caledonian Back?

Wed Aug 25, 1999 4:37 am

Ever since BA bought BCal it's been doing charter only operations. So in reply to your question yes it is basically the same airline but they only do charter (well scheduled charter).
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RE: Caledonian Back?

Wed Aug 25, 1999 7:00 am

Actually the entire British Caledonian fleet and operation (all of which was scheduled services since BCal sold THEIR charter division to The Rank Organisation which renamed it Novair) was incorporated into British Airways, and BA took advantage of the chance to deflect blame for it's own appalling British Airtours, which became Caledonian. As I have said before, not only did it mean that BA could pretend to have nothing to do with it's charter subsidiary, but it could also trash another fine airline's reputation. I'm sure ex-BCal staff felt like weeping every time they saw the "Caledonian" TriStars carrying the lion logo, filled with late and pissed-off holidaymakers cursing what was once their pride and joy. As for now, Robert Ayling finally flogged it to tour operator and biggest customer Inspirations, who will probably (if not already) rebrand the airline to fit their own corporate image.
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RE: Caledonian Back?

Wed Aug 25, 1999 6:13 pm

Hi Cedarjet

I think they were re-named CalAir before Novair.

I have a few shots at Glasgow of CalAir DC10's, the livery being the red sash over the body.

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RE: Caledonian Back?

Thu Aug 26, 1999 3:04 am

You're right, Granite. All Rank did when they changed the name to Novair was keep the livery exactly as in your photo and put Novair in the same typeface where the Calair name was, and replace the lion with a stupid star thing. I flew on Novair as a kiddie and they were still selling Wooster models onbaord in Calair colours (I still have it).
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RE: Caledonian Back?

Thu Aug 26, 1999 3:24 pm

Thank's Cedarjet!! As a member of the British Caledonian family that is EXACTLY how it felt!! Your reply was the best description of what happened i have ever read!!  

Cheers and long live B.Cal!!

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RE: Caledonian Back?

Fri Aug 27, 1999 2:46 pm

In May 88 when BCal was bought out by British Airways....British Airtours, BA's holiday air carrier was renamed Caledonian. It is not hte original British Caledonian. BCal's assets were transfered to BA which is how BA got DC-10's. And the L1011's you see in Caledonian colors used to fly under British Airtours colors

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