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SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 6:13 pm

https://www.suncountry.com/About/News/2018-05-02.html

Nice to see scheduled SY service into MSY (finally).

STS-LAS...there’s an interesting one.
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 6:16 pm

SBA has been on a role recently
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 6:29 pm

SunsetLimited wrote:
STS-LAS...there’s an interesting one.


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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 6:31 pm

STS folks have hoped for a return to LAS though year-round. If this does well enough, it might encourage AS to go back to this market assuming they can free up a/c. It looks like this will be on the a/c inbound from MSP to STS. The route then reverses to LAS-STS-MSP for the plane on Sundays.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 10:26 pm

I've never understood how a leisure airline could avoid one of the largest leisure markets in the country for so long.

Now, it sorta seems like they're too late to the punch: of course DL is on the MSY-MSP route, but so is NK. What's the point of choosing SY?
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 10:53 pm

This will mark the 3rd carrier to try STS-LAS (QX, G4 and now SY). With the amount of growth at STS, it’s now easier than ever to connect to LAS from STS and there’s still the problem of the proximity to SFO and OAK. I wish the best for SY on STS-LAS but it likely won’t last.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 10:59 pm

Maybe that'll spark AS or another to start STS-LAS year-round.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 11:38 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
I've never understood how a leisure airline could avoid one of the largest leisure markets in the country for so long.

Now, it sorta seems like they're too late to the punch: of course DL is on the MSY-MSP route, but so is NK. What's the point of choosing SY?

MSY was indeed long overdue. Crazy how they avoided it this long.

Price, product, service, timing, any number of things. It's not like DL and NK have the market covered. DL is expensive and and only has one flight a day. NK isn't even daily. Seems to be room there.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Wed May 02, 2018 11:50 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
SBA has been on a role recently


If only DL would finally make a return.

The airport also really wants ORD. UA needs to either do that and/or upgauge the DEN flights back up from CRJs
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 12:04 am

Just make sure you’re not flying at the end of their season...
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 12:33 pm

Based on SBA, I wonder if we will see FAT next summer, based on the facts that:

1) FAT has more than 1.5x total US pax than SBA (close to 2x including int’l).

2) FAT has higher PDEW to MSP, mostly owing to the large SE Asian diaspora in both cities.

3) SY could advertise FAT as “Yosemite.”

4) FAT has incentives in place for MSP service.

FAT is certainly less ideal during the winter months, aside from around US and Hmong New Year, but I would guess summer would work well.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 1:02 pm

flyfresno wrote:
Based on SBA, I wonder if we will see FAT next summer, based on the facts that:

1) FAT has more than 1.5x total US pax than SBA (close to 2x including int’l).

2) FAT has higher PDEW to MSP, mostly owing to the large SE Asian diaspora in both cities.

3) SY could advertise FAT as “Yosemite.”

4) FAT has incentives in place for MSP service.

FAT is certainly less ideal during the winter months, aside from around US and Hmong New Year, but I would guess summer would work well.


If SY is still sizable at MSP next year. "Rumor" they will be backing out of MSP more in the next year.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 1:20 pm

Not so much backing out as it is concentrating on other dots in the system. There's about 5 or so cities identified as a second and third base to launch point to point vacation/leisure destinations. Sounds as though the goal to start leasing additional aircraft which will eventually lead to a 100% increase in fleet size within a 5 to 6 year period may start in 2019.
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 1:29 pm

Based on their new model, they may lose quite a bit of loyalty in MN which, I think, will cause them to vacate some routes here. They will find other areas to be more profitable and fill their planes.
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 1:39 pm

They'll pick up the new market of those chasing $69 airfares to Las Vegas. Sun Country today is dead. The new Sun Country will look pretty much be Allegiant 2 by spring of 2020. Jude just came out with his new organizational chart and has been poaching his favorite suck-ups from Allegiant, or other jobs they may have moved on to to come and be a part of his grand plan. Many folks who have been there for a number of years are now being moved down the chart and are no longer in a position of having direct reports. Many of the those with a number of years at SCA on the resume are starting to leave or actively looking to get out as soon as they can.
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 1:48 pm

stlgph wrote:
They'll pick up the new market of those chasing $69 airfares to Las Vegas. Sun Country today is dead. The new Sun Country will look pretty much be Allegiant 2 by spring of 2020. Jude just came out with his new organizational chart and has been poaching his favorite suck-ups from Allegiant, or other jobs they may have moved on to to come and be a part of his grand plan. Many folks who have been there for a number of years are now being moved down the chart and are no longer in a position of having direct reports. Many of the those with a number of years at SCA on the resume are starting to leave or actively looking to get out as soon as they can.


Does that mean SY is going to see an significant increase in aircraft breakdowns like G4?
 
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Re: SY adds seasonal MSP-MSY/SBA, LAS-STS

Thu May 03, 2018 1:53 pm

wedgetail737 wrote:
stlgph wrote:
They'll pick up the new market of those chasing $69 airfares to Las Vegas. Sun Country today is dead. The new Sun Country will look pretty much be Allegiant 2 by spring of 2020. Jude just came out with his new organizational chart and has been poaching his favorite suck-ups from Allegiant, or other jobs they may have moved on to to come and be a part of his grand plan. Many folks who have been there for a number of years are now being moved down the chart and are no longer in a position of having direct reports. Many of the those with a number of years at SCA on the resume are starting to leave or actively looking to get out as soon as they can.


Does that mean SY is going to see an significant increase in aircraft breakdowns like G4?


:lol: Good one. Although many I've talked to at the Allegiant inner-circle say that's all on Maury.
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