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QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 5:19 pm

As most (not all!) Q400's are being phased out and replaced by E175's, does that mean the pilots are either re-training to fly jets or are they gone with the Q400's?

On a side note, I must say it is nicer to fly on the E175's over the Q400's, especially on flights over an hour.
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Thu May 03, 2018 5:44 pm

Pilots are retained on the E175 as they bid off of it or displaced off of it.
 
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 5:51 pm

“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 7:54 pm

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“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.


Looking online (if accurate), 12 Q's are retiring this year and 20 175's are coming in (not necessarily this year). Currently there are 13 E175's, with an eventual total of 33 I suppose.

Are the Q400's that will remain the Next Generation as I believe it is called? I've noticed some Q400's having window shades and LED reading lights.

So I am pegging QX's fleet in the future -
33 E175's
23 Q400's +2 on order

58 total planes (which would be an overall decrease)
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 8:24 pm

What happens to the Q400s that are retired from Horizon? Are cycles so high that they are scrapped or will they have a second life with another carrier somewhere?
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 8:32 pm

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So I am pegging QX's fleet in the future -
33 E175's
23 Q400's +2 on order

58 total planes (which would be an overall decrease)


The order for 2 is cancelled
 
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 8:56 pm

flybynight wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.


Looking online (if accurate), 12 Q's are retiring this year and 20 175's are coming in (not necessarily this year). Currently there are 13 E175's, with an eventual total of 33 I suppose.

Are the Q400's that will remain the Next Generation as I believe it is called? I've noticed some Q400's having window shades and LED reading lights.

So I am pegging QX's fleet in the future -
33 E175's
23 Q400's +2 on order

58 total planes (which would be an overall decrease)


Not 100% sure on the exact specifics, but the window shades are a tiny bit different on the nextgens, (they have a brushed aluminum look "handle" instead of it being the same color as the rest of the shade, the overhead bins have different doors, and the exit/lav in use signs are a bit different. I believe the cabin sidewalls are also slightly different, IIRC they're slightly more sculpted than the regular Q, and the interior comes with LED's standard, though I believe many operators have retrofitted LED's in their regular Q's
Pics for comparison
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I believe there's also a slight difference in the gear, IIRC it has to do with the maintenance intervals, but it's super minor. I'm not in the mtce world though, so perhaps someone can shed some more light on that.

Basically, as far as I'm aware, even thought Bombardier calls it the Q400 Nextgen, it's more of an incremental improvement. The operators I've worked for treated them all the same, same MTOW, similar OEW, etc.


Don't know what Horizon's fleet plans are with them, but hopefully helped shed some light on the "nextgen"
 
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 9:17 pm

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flybynight wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.


Looking online (if accurate), 12 Q's are retiring this year and 20 175's are coming in (not necessarily this year). Currently there are 13 E175's, with an eventual total of 33 I suppose.

Are the Q400's that will remain the Next Generation as I believe it is called? I've noticed some Q400's having window shades and LED reading lights.

So I am pegging QX's fleet in the future -
33 E175's
23 Q400's +2 on order

58 total planes (which would be an overall decrease)


Not 100% sure on the exact specifics, but the window shades are a tiny bit different on the nextgens, (they have a brushed aluminum look "handle" instead of it being the same color as the rest of the shade, the overhead bins have different doors, and the exit/lav in use signs are a bit different. I believe the cabin sidewalls are also slightly different, IIRC they're slightly more sculpted than the regular Q, and the interior comes with LED's standard, though I believe many operators have retrofitted LED's in their regular Q's
Pics for comparison
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I believe there's also a slight difference in the gear, IIRC it has to do with the maintenance intervals, but it's super minor. I'm not in the mtce world though, so perhaps someone can shed some more light on that.

Basically, as far as I'm aware, even thought Bombardier calls it the Q400 Nextgen, it's more of an incremental improvement. The operators I've worked for treated them all the same, same MTOW, similar OEW, etc.


Don't know what Horizon's fleet plans are with them, but hopefully helped shed some light on the "nextgen"


Excellent write up.
Most of the Q400's that QX has/had didn't have window shades at all. Maybe it was an option on earlier Q400's? The newer ones do (and it is a welcome addition for those early flights out of SEA and heading towards PDX)
The newer ones, have those new bin locks (which at first are a little cumbersome). I am not sure on the chrome/silver on the window shade pulls.
The Q400 I was on yesterday had neither so I guess that would make in non-NextGen
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 03, 2018 9:35 pm

flybynight wrote:
diverted wrote:
flybynight wrote:

Looking online (if accurate), 12 Q's are retiring this year and 20 175's are coming in (not necessarily this year). Currently there are 13 E175's, with an eventual total of 33 I suppose.

Are the Q400's that will remain the Next Generation as I believe it is called? I've noticed some Q400's having window shades and LED reading lights.

So I am pegging QX's fleet in the future -
33 E175's
23 Q400's +2 on order

58 total planes (which would be an overall decrease)


Not 100% sure on the exact specifics, but the window shades are a tiny bit different on the nextgens, (they have a brushed aluminum look "handle" instead of it being the same color as the rest of the shade, the overhead bins have different doors, and the exit/lav in use signs are a bit different. I believe the cabin sidewalls are also slightly different, IIRC they're slightly more sculpted than the regular Q, and the interior comes with LED's standard, though I believe many operators have retrofitted LED's in their regular Q's
Pics for comparison
Image
Image

I believe there's also a slight difference in the gear, IIRC it has to do with the maintenance intervals, but it's super minor. I'm not in the mtce world though, so perhaps someone can shed some more light on that.

Basically, as far as I'm aware, even thought Bombardier calls it the Q400 Nextgen, it's more of an incremental improvement. The operators I've worked for treated them all the same, same MTOW, similar OEW, etc.


Don't know what Horizon's fleet plans are with them, but hopefully helped shed some light on the "nextgen"


Excellent write up.
Most of the Q400's that QX has/had didn't have window shades at all. Maybe it was an option on earlier Q400's? The newer ones do (and it is a welcome addition for those early flights out of SEA and heading towards PDX)
The newer ones, have those new bin locks (which at first are a little cumbersome). I am not sure on the chrome/silver on the window shade pulls.
The Q400 I was on yesterday had neither so I guess that would make in non-NextGen


Yeah, IIRC they were on option on the initial Q's. Horizon's never had them AFAIK. Believe they're standard on the nextgen.

Here's some pics of the window shades for comparison.
Original style, old sidewall and shade
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New style, sculpted sidewall, new window shade with metallic pull
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Tue May 08, 2018 4:03 pm

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“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.



And did I just read that QX has ordered about 8 new Q400's?

I was under the impression that QX was going all-jet. Obviously I was wrong.

I wonder if these new Q400's will have different interiors than the current crop.
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Tue May 08, 2018 4:22 pm

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“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.



And did I just read that QX has ordered about 8 new Q400's?

I was under the impression that QX was going all-jet. Obviously I was wrong.

I wonder if these new Q400's will have different interiors than the current crop.


I hadn't heard anything about new Q400 orders; everything on order is for E175s, as far as I know, with the fleet count being about a 1:1 ratio of Q400s to E175s by the end of 2019.
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Wed May 09, 2018 10:25 am

EA CO AS wrote:
flybynight wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.



And did I just read that QX has ordered about 8 new Q400's?

I was under the impression that QX was going all-jet. Obviously I was wrong.

I wonder if these new Q400's will have different interiors than the current crop.


I hadn't heard anything about new Q400 orders; everything on order is for E175s, as far as I know, with the fleet count being about a 1:1 ratio of Q400s to E175s by the end of 2019.


I have not heard ANY rumblings of further Q-400 aqusitions new or used, In my own opinion I see QX having a larger jet presence as they move forward, with QX dropping LWS recently, it reminds us that no destination is safe as airlines strive to all be bigger & better. I'd expect QX to cut their roster of served cities in the next two years, while dropping Q-400's along the way.

In the long run QX & OO could compete against each other for the AS business, at least QX can offer the Q-400's which fit better in markets like PSC, RDM or MMH as examples.
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Wed May 09, 2018 5:37 pm

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And did I just read that QX has ordered about 8 new Q400's?

I was under the impression that QX was going all-jet. Obviously I was wrong.

I wonder if these new Q400's will have different interiors than the current crop.


I hadn't heard anything about new Q400 orders; everything on order is for E175s, as far as I know, with the fleet count being about a 1:1 ratio of Q400s to E175s by the end of 2019.


I have not heard ANY rumblings of further Q-400 aqusitions new or used, In my own opinion I see QX having a larger jet presence as they move forward, with QX dropping LWS recently, it reminds us that no destination is safe as airlines strive to all be bigger & better. I'd expect QX to cut their roster of served cities in the next two years, while dropping Q-400's along the way.

In the long run QX & OO could compete against each other for the AS business, at least QX can offer the Q-400's which fit better in markets like PSC, RDM or MMH as examples.


Reminds me of when QX phased out the Q200
A number of smaller cities throughout the PNW lost service and have since struggled to attract anything beyond an EAS carrier operating for a couple years.
 
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What happens to the Q400s that are retired from Horizon? Are cycles so high that they are scrapped or will they have a second life with another carrier somewhere?


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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

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I hadn't heard anything about new Q400 orders; everything on order is for E175s, as far as I know, with the fleet count being about a 1:1 ratio of Q400s to E175s by the end of 2019.


I have not heard ANY rumblings of further Q-400 aqusitions new or used, In my own opinion I see QX having a larger jet presence as they move forward, with QX dropping LWS recently, it reminds us that no destination is safe as airlines strive to all be bigger & better. I'd expect QX to cut their roster of served cities in the next two years, while dropping Q-400's along the way.

In the long run QX & OO could compete against each other for the AS business, at least QX can offer the Q-400's which fit better in markets like PSC, RDM or MMH as examples.


Reminds me of when QX phased out the Q200
A number of smaller cities throughout the PNW lost service and have since struggled to attract anything beyond an EAS carrier operating for a couple years.


That is exactly what I've been thinking, as the Q's leave I wonder how many cities will disappear? I know the passenger counts are the same, but the economics of running a jet w/a premium cabin v prop wo/the premium seating & ammenities will be the break point for some QX stations. RDM, PSC, PUW for some examples. Although RDM did just get a mainline turn to SEA.
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Thu May 10, 2018 3:44 pm

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RWA380 wrote:

I have not heard ANY rumblings of further Q-400 aqusitions new or used, In my own opinion I see QX having a larger jet presence as they move forward, with QX dropping LWS recently, it reminds us that no destination is safe as airlines strive to all be bigger & better. I'd expect QX to cut their roster of served cities in the next two years, while dropping Q-400's along the way.

In the long run QX & OO could compete against each other for the AS business, at least QX can offer the Q-400's which fit better in markets like PSC, RDM or MMH as examples.


Reminds me of when QX phased out the Q200
A number of smaller cities throughout the PNW lost service and have since struggled to attract anything beyond an EAS carrier operating for a couple years.


That is exactly what I've been thinking, as the Q's leave I wonder how many cities will disappear? I know the passenger counts are the same, but the economics of running a jet w/a premium cabin v prop wo/the premium seating & ammenities will be the break point for some QX stations. RDM, PSC, PUW for some examples. Although RDM did just get a mainline turn to SEA.


I’m thinking of EAT YKM and ALW. It would be nice to see the 175 work in those markets, but as you say, the economics are different than with the Q400. I had some hope that PenAir would have done better at PDX and grown into other small PNW markets vacated by QX over the year, especially since they were feeding AS.
 
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That is exactly what I've been thinking, as the Q's leave I wonder how many cities will disappear? I know the passenger counts are the same, but the economics of running a jet w/a premium cabin v prop wo/the premium seating & ammenities will be the break point for some QX stations. RDM, PSC, PUW for some examples. Although RDM did just get a mainline turn to SEA.


Although DL (Via Compass) does operate 175s to RDM, to what degree of profitability I don't know. It'll be interesting to see how AS mainline performs.
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 4:50 pm

Can the 175 handle all of QX's routes? I can see the airline eventually going all jet eventually. I like the Q400, but I would rather fly on a 175 any day.
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PDX757 wrote:


I’m thinking of EAT YKM and ALW. It would be nice to see the 175 work in those markets, but as you say, the economics are different than with the Q400. I had some hope that PenAir would have done better at PDX and grown into other small PNW markets vacated by QX over the year, especially since they were feeding AS.

I was really hoping PenAir would succeed in the PNW. I was hoping they'd even find their way to Boise which between the Idaho Falls and Lewiston routes have lost a couple services and in my opinion other routes might have been feasible with the smaller aircraft. I love Alaska/Horizon but the economics of their aircraft all having to be Q400's or bigger are leaving a lot of areas in the PNW in my opinion at least under-served.
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The Q's leaving the Horizon fleet now are all lease returns.
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I was really hoping PenAir would succeed in the PNW. I was hoping they'd even find their way to Boise which between the Idaho Falls and Lewiston routes have lost a couple services and in my opinion other routes might have been feasible with the smaller aircraft. I love Alaska/Horizon but the economics of their aircraft all having to be Q400's or bigger are leaving a lot of areas in the PNW in my opinion at least under-served.


Agreed! There are not many options for getting around Idaho outside of Boise. It is rental car basically if you're heading to Eastern Idaho. That's OK, but I'd prefer to fly instead of a 4 hour drive.
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I was really hoping PenAir would succeed in the PNW. I was hoping they'd even find their way to Boise which between the Idaho Falls and Lewiston routes have lost a couple services and in my opinion other routes might have been feasible with the smaller aircraft. I love Alaska/Horizon but the economics of their aircraft all having to be Q400's or bigger are leaving a lot of areas in the PNW in my opinion at least under-served.


Agreed! There are not many options for getting around Idaho outside of Boise. It is rental car basically if you're heading to Eastern Idaho. That's OK, but I'd prefer to fly instead of a 4 hour drive.


I wonder how much market there would be for a small regional airline serving small unserved cities in the PNW. There’s a number of small cities in OR WA and ID that have no or limited service and are quite a ways away from the nearest air service. Maybe some milk-run style routing with sub-50 seat aircraft would do okay, even to non EAS cities. Lakeview-Burns-Baker City-PDX as an example I guess.
 
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GCT64 wrote:
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What happens to the Q400s that are retired from Horizon? Are cycles so high that they are scrapped or will they have a second life with another carrier somewhere?


2 ex-Chang An Airlines Q400s that went to Horizon in 2006 were subsequently scrapped about 5 years ago in Toronto.
The recent retirements have gone into storage (N420QX is at TUS).


I believe you're right. One was N425QX, which was a gorgeous bird. IIRC she became Westjet Encore's cabin trainer, but I may be wrong.
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Agreed! There are not many options for getting around Idaho outside of Boise. It is rental car basically if you're heading to Eastern Idaho. That's OK, but I'd prefer to fly instead of a 4 hour drive.


Sun Valley, Twin Falls, Pocatello and Idaho Falls all have service to SLC, the logical regional hub.
 
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I wonder how much market there would be for a small regional airline serving small unserved cities in the PNW. There’s a number of small cities in OR WA and ID that have no or limited service and are quite a ways away from the nearest air service. Maybe some milk-run style routing with sub-50 seat aircraft would do okay, even to non EAS cities. Lakeview-Burns-Baker City-PDX as an example I guess.


The problem is the local fare would be somewhere north of $200 one-way. The question is how many people would be willing to pay $250 for a one-way ticket. And how many would be willing to take a flight making two stops.
 
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GCT64 wrote:
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What happens to the Q400s that are retired from Horizon? Are cycles so high that they are scrapped or will they have a second life with another carrier somewhere?


2 ex-Chang An Airlines Q400s that went to Horizon in 2006 were subsequently scrapped about 5 years ago in Toronto.
The recent retirements have gone into storage (N420QX is at TUS).


I believe you're right. One was N425QX, which was a gorgeous bird. IIRC she became Westjet Encore's cabin trainer, but I may be wrong.
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Pretty bird, but that particular aircraft was a maintenance nightmare. Just had way more issues than any other Q400.
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Fri May 11, 2018 6:40 pm

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flybynight wrote:
iceberg210 wrote:
I was really hoping PenAir would succeed in the PNW. I was hoping they'd even find their way to Boise which between the Idaho Falls and Lewiston routes have lost a couple services and in my opinion other routes might have been feasible with the smaller aircraft. I love Alaska/Horizon but the economics of their aircraft all having to be Q400's or bigger are leaving a lot of areas in the PNW in my opinion at least under-served.


Agreed! There are not many options for getting around Idaho outside of Boise. It is rental car basically if you're heading to Eastern Idaho. That's OK, but I'd prefer to fly instead of a 4 hour drive.


I wonder how much market there would be for a small regional airline serving small unserved cities in the PNW. There’s a number of small cities in OR WA and ID that have no or limited service and are quite a ways away from the nearest air service. Maybe some milk-run style routing with sub-50 seat aircraft would do okay, even to non EAS cities. Lakeview-Burns-Baker City-PDX as an example I guess.

I think the sweet spot would be runs that are somewhat long (for regional flights) especially those where the drive is difficult, or takes longer than you'd think due to directness or roads. Routes like BOI-LWS, BOI-BZN, BOI-IDA, BZN-GEG, BZN- YYC etc. would be more what you'd have to try.

To bring it back a bit to topic I wonder (maybe it's just in my dreams) if Alaska knows something we don't about their plans for the Q400. They still have quite a few, they don't have enough 175's to replace them on order, and so as they age you'd think there'd be a couple orders here and there with Bombardier for Q400NG's to refresh the fleet, which really hasn't happened lately, they've got two on order still but those have been pending for a long time. It looks like their current mix is they've got 38 Q400's, 14 NG's so one might expect a few more orders as while the Q400 will reduce it's numbers in the fleet I think it's safe to say it won't end up at 14.

Unless the new turboprop Embraer has been working is in the works and Horizon is working with them on that. (this part might be in my dreams though ;) ) Who knows a 50-70 seater might be a nice compliment to the 175, and also allow for the opening of the routes I talked about above. Well a person can dream at least :P
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Sun May 13, 2018 8:31 am

This summer -- starting a week from Sunday -- SAN will see no Qs on the schedule: all five flights serving FAT, MRY and STS will be EMJs!

As with almost all routes, it's impossible at this time to tell what happens after August 26 when the peak summer sked ends. That being said, those late summer skeds right now show the Qs are back plus the SAN-MMH flights do appear on the skeds with a mid-December start.

I believe that MMH will not accept the EMJ so if that route, SAN-MMH, is still on the books for this ski season, then SAN will have to see Qs back again.

Those August 26 skeds are supposedly going to be finalized by the end of May so we'll see how things look then!

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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Sun May 13, 2018 8:31 pm

EA CO AS wrote:
diverted wrote:
GCT64 wrote:

2 ex-Chang An Airlines Q400s that went to Horizon in 2006 were subsequently scrapped about 5 years ago in Toronto.
The recent retirements have gone into storage (N420QX is at TUS).


I believe you're right. One was N425QX, which was a gorgeous bird. IIRC she became Westjet Encore's cabin trainer, but I may be wrong.
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Pretty bird, but that particular aircraft was a maintenance nightmare. Just had way more issues than any other Q400.


Skittles! Poor bird suffered in use, gained the same reputation as Tink on the AS side

On a side note, 411 was returned to lessors today, joining the ranks of 418, 419, and 420.

406, 409, and 410 are up next to leave
 
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Sun May 13, 2018 8:40 pm

iceberg210 wrote:
It looks like their current mix is they've got 38 Q400's, 14 NG's so one might expect a few more orders as while the Q400 will reduce it's numbers in the fleet I think it's safe to say it won't end up at 14.


The outstanding order for 2 Qs was cancelled (last time I asked about it). The prevailing thought on our side is that the Q400s will go away for good over the coming years as we take delivery of more E175s, but at the same time these were decisions made under the previous leadership so who really knows?
 
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Sun May 13, 2018 9:36 pm

452QX wrote:
iceberg210 wrote:
It looks like their current mix is they've got 38 Q400's, 14 NG's so one might expect a few more orders as while the Q400 will reduce it's numbers in the fleet I think it's safe to say it won't end up at 14.


The outstanding order for 2 Qs was cancelled (last time I asked about it). The prevailing thought on our side is that the Q400s will go away for good over the coming years as we take delivery of more E175s, but at the same time these were decisions made under the previous leadership so who really knows?

It might have been, although it's still on Bombardier's books for whatever that means.
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Re: QX Q400 pilots are they now flying E175's

Mon May 14, 2018 12:05 am

flybynight wrote:
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“Most” Q400s are remaining in the fleet; they’re just moving to an almost equal number of Q400s and E175s in the QX fleet as some Q400s are retired and E175 deliveries accelerate.


Looking online (if accurate), 12 Q's are retiring this year and 20 175's are coming in (not necessarily this year). Currently there are 13 E175's, with an eventual total of 33 I suppose.

Are the Q400's that will remain the Next Generation as I believe it is called? I've noticed some Q400's having window shades and LED reading lights.

So I am pegging QX's fleet in the future -
33 E175's
23 Q400's +2 on order

58 total planes (which would be an overall decrease)

The official number(as of yesterday) is 60 total aircraft through 2019.
30 Q's
30 E-175's

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