Jayafe wrote:Not sure where your statement comes from, but BA has stated repeatedly that what they need is more A380s, they just don't want to pay the tagged price.
Actually what WW said just two months ago that the price for A380s is "ridiculous" and he "wouldn't waste 10 seconds on it" based on prices he has seen ( ref: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ou-446484/ ).
The only way A380 makes sense is if it's priced far lower than Airbus is willing to sell it for. As Matt and others say, the airline doesn't care if the money gets spent on fuel or on capital or on flying empty seats around, they care about the bottom line once all is factored in. The A380's capital costs are way too high for the economy it delivers. If you don't believe me, believe WW or all the rest of the CEOs outside of EK who aren't willing to buy any A380s.
777x will come with state of the art engines hanging off wings optimized just for them with a redesigned interior. If priced aggressively enough, IMHO it could easily fill some of the roles WW wants to fill.
Jayafe wrote:There's no reason, business plan, growth or opportunity that justifies ordering 777x's for BA or almost any other airline (even LH is trying to get rid of that order). 787s will be the stepping point for BA.
What Spohr did say about the 777x is the most misunderstood thing ever on a.net.
Here's what he said:
“I’m not sure if we’ve really ordered enough A350s and possibly too many 777Xs,” Spohr said at a staff meeting, a replay of which was seen by Bloomberg. “We must now think about either stretching the 777X in a deal with Boeing to let them come in more slowly, or increasing profitability to finance our overdue fleet investments.”
Ref: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... serve-cash
So, he's taking about stretching deliveries or making more money elsewhere to be in a position to still take the 777s, nothing about "getting rid of that order".
As Keesje would say, perhaps hope is taking over?