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Walt Disney World had an airport?

Sun May 06, 2018 8:13 pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzyYKVmm3Jo

Left one in original colors. Notice anything about that tail? :bouncy:
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport with airline service?

Sun May 06, 2018 8:21 pm

Didn't know there was air service. The airfield is near the Transportation and Ticket Center. It's still there. They use it for bus training.

I think the EPCOT monorail line obstructed the approach.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport with airline service?

Sun May 06, 2018 8:27 pm

Airline service? I see now they wanted an airport and have land but it was mostly for their corporate planes. McCoy grew at this time from nothing to something.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport with airline service?

Sun May 06, 2018 8:32 pm

I vaguely recall that plane with the blue stripe the last time I was at MGM Studios (aka Hollywood Studios). I haven't been there in years though, and likely wouldn't be back anytime soon as I've had more than my fill of the place.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport with airline service?

Sun May 06, 2018 8:38 pm

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Airline service? I see now they wanted an airport and have land but it was mostly for their corporate planes. McCoy grew at this time from nothing to something.


If you watched the videos, it was Shawnee Airlines with a shuttle service from MCO. That would count, wouldn't it?


EDIT: Executive Airlines as well
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Sun May 06, 2018 9:18 pm

727LOVER wrote:
Image

Y E S !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXEsWMXh7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzyYKVmm3Jo

Left one in original colors. Notice anything about that tail? :bouncy:

Airport location
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The runway has a lot of equipment parked on it. The ramp I think is where they usually do bus training. It's just East of the MK parking lot.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Sun May 06, 2018 9:35 pm

There's a great story about this on the Atlas Obscura website: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/sin ... ld-airport.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 2:03 am

As a former WDW cast member, it (the strip) was going to be used by Mr. Disney, when he visited from CA. but he passed away before WDW would open. His Gulfstream 1 was located at Hollywood Studios, on the back lot tour, behind the stunt show stadium. That whole area is now being turned into Star Wars Land. I don't know the location of the plane currently. I worked at the Studios from 2007 until 2012.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 2:31 am

Yep STOL port runway is still there, deactivated though and used for parking/storage. Was briefly served by Shawnee Airlines DHC-6 Twin Otter's. Contrary to popular opinion as well Walt's Gulfstream did not land at this air strip, it landed on the highway beside Hollywood Studios.

Also interesting to note there was also an ultralight airport called Epcot Center Ultralight Flightpark that featured a circular runway. It closed for use in 1992 when the air shows stopped at Epcot, and is now the site of the Art of Animation Resort.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 10:33 am

727LOVER wrote:
Image

Y E S !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiXEsWMXh7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzyYKVmm3Jo

Left one in original colors. Notice anything about that tail? :bouncy:



The old Eastern bird the original official airline of Wald Disney World
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 11:39 am

https://goo.gl/maps/owoy62VwbvA2 Here's a map of the location
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 11:39 am

Disney brought everything else in house, wouldnt surprise me if they one day did this.

You now, disgustingly, have to go thru metal detectors to get into a park, so they have the instrusive security part down!
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 12:39 pm

You used to be able to drive on it for a while. They had tested out this idea using rumble strips that would supposedly play the tune of "when you wish upon a star", but it didn't really work. The airfield was not well placed, and I think they realized some kind of aviation incident would be really bad for them.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 1:56 pm

Good old Epcot Center airport! I know exactly where that was, only about 5 minutes from my place.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 3:12 pm

klm617 wrote:
The old Eastern bird the original official airline of Wald Disney World


In that 1st clip, you see part of a commercial.

Here's the full clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTi-rsjLE0


LOL....don't forget this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dREnFrwhy8g


Just for fun...in Spanish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKgf11yX6lY
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 3:19 pm

Eastern Airlines sponsored a ride at the Magic Kingdom called "If you had wings". Afterwards, Delta became the official sponsor and called it "Delta dreamflight". However, I barely remember it because I was only 2 when Dreamflight closed, but remember only that it was one of my early interests in aviation.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 3:26 pm

Well they already have an ATC center there, "Epcot Center"

OK, bad joke, I know
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 3:32 pm

flymco753 wrote:
Eastern Airlines sponsored a ride at the Magic Kingdom called "If you had wings". Afterwards, Delta became the official sponsor and called it "Delta dreamflight". However, I barely remember it because I was only 2 when Dreamflight closed, but remember only that it was one of my early interests in aviation.

If You Had Wings was great. The Three Caballeros ride in the Mexico pavilion is more or less an homage to it. Very similar except on water. Hopefully they won't shoehorn Coco theming into that ride.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 3:37 pm

enilria wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
Eastern Airlines sponsored a ride at the Magic Kingdom called "If you had wings". Afterwards, Delta became the official sponsor and called it "Delta dreamflight". However, I barely remember it because I was only 2 when Dreamflight closed, but remember only that it was one of my early interests in aviation.

If You Had Wings was great. The Three Caballeros ride in the Mexico pavilion is more or less an homage to it. Very similar except on water. Hopefully they won't shoehorn Coco theming into that ride.
Unfortunately it's already planned. Similar to the way they destroyed Maelstrom with the new frozen ride.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 3:39 pm

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You used to be able to drive on it for a while. They had tested out this idea using rumble strips that would supposedly play the tune of "when you wish upon a star", but it didn't really work. The airfield was not well placed, and I think they realized some kind of aviation incident would be really bad for them.

Again as I posted above, it closed when they decided to install the EPCOT monorail line. As you can see from this...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@28.40148 ... a=!3m1!1e3
...the elevated monorail track is only about 50 feet from the runway on the South end. The monorail line to EPCOT was not in the original plan for the park. That's why the station setup at Transportation and Ticket Center is pretty poorly laid out.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 5:33 pm

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enilria wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
Eastern Airlines sponsored a ride at the Magic Kingdom called "If you had wings". Afterwards, Delta became the official sponsor and called it "Delta dreamflight". However, I barely remember it because I was only 2 when Dreamflight closed, but remember only that it was one of my early interests in aviation.

If You Had Wings was great. The Three Caballeros ride in the Mexico pavilion is more or less an homage to it. Very similar except on water. Hopefully they won't shoehorn Coco theming into that ride.
Unfortunately it's already planned. Similar to the way they destroyed Maelstrom with the new frozen ride.


The Maelstrom is gone?!
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 5:55 pm

N766UA wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
enilria wrote:
If You Had Wings was great. The Three Caballeros ride in the Mexico pavilion is more or less an homage to it. Very similar except on water. Hopefully they won't shoehorn Coco theming into that ride.
Unfortunately it's already planned. Similar to the way they destroyed Maelstrom with the new frozen ride.


The Maelstrom is gone?!
Yes it is, it has been replaced by a Frozen boat ride. It still uses the Maelstrom track though, you still go backwards and go down the hill afterwards. It's obnoxious for adults, basically the opposite of what Malestrom was.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Mon May 07, 2018 8:04 pm

enilria wrote:
cloudboy wrote:
You used to be able to drive on it for a while. They had tested out this idea using rumble strips that would supposedly play the tune of "when you wish upon a star", but it didn't really work. The airfield was not well placed, and I think they realized some kind of aviation incident would be really bad for them.

Again as I posted above, it closed when they decided to install the EPCOT monorail line. As you can see from this...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@28.40148 ... a=!3m1!1e3
...the elevated monorail track is only about 50 feet from the runway on the South end. The monorail line to EPCOT was not in the original plan for the park. That's why the station setup at Transportation and Ticket Center is pretty poorly laid out.


I don't know where you get that from, using Google Earth I'm measuring about 400ft from the monorail to the extended runway centerline. I'd have no qualms landing a Twin Otter there.

Shawnee Airlines ceased operations before EPCOT center even existed, the monorail was not the cause of the eventual airport closure.
 
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Tue May 08, 2018 1:14 pm

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enilria wrote:
cloudboy wrote:
You used to be able to drive on it for a while. They had tested out this idea using rumble strips that would supposedly play the tune of "when you wish upon a star", but it didn't really work. The airfield was not well placed, and I think they realized some kind of aviation incident would be really bad for them.

Again as I posted above, it closed when they decided to install the EPCOT monorail line. As you can see from this...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@28.40148 ... a=!3m1!1e3
...the elevated monorail track is only about 50 feet from the runway on the South end. The monorail line to EPCOT was not in the original plan for the park. That's why the station setup at Transportation and Ticket Center is pretty poorly laid out.


I don't know where you get that from, using Google Earth I'm measuring about 400ft from the monorail to the extended runway centerline. I'd have no qualms landing a Twin Otter there.

Shawnee Airlines ceased operations before EPCOT center even existed, the monorail was not the cause of the eventual airport closure.


You know they had to build EPCOT. It didn't just appear one day. It took many years to build and plan. They shut the airport when the plans for the EPCOT monorail line were approved.
In the late 1970s the elevated monorail was extended near the end of the runway, making landing a plane there much too dangerous.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/sin ... ld-airport

Fine 400'. Still too close.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Tue May 08, 2018 1:15 pm

The airport never really caught on. Epcot was always in the plans, but the plans themselves were very fluid at the time. While never really talked about, I think the big fear with the STOL port was that there would be too much risk of an incident which would cause lots of bad publicity. While it took a while to formally close it was rarely used. MCO was fairly close to property, so it was just as easy for their corporate aircraft to land there and just drive, rather than having to switch to a smaller aircraft. Even when they tried Ultralights, they ended up having to use a different field.
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Tue May 08, 2018 3:11 pm

It’s funny how few people know about the STOL ports history. People are always surprised when we’re out on there and I tell them it’s a runway.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Tue May 08, 2018 3:23 pm

enilria wrote:
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enilria wrote:
Again as I posted above, it closed when they decided to install the EPCOT monorail line. As you can see from this...
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@28.40148 ... a=!3m1!1e3
...the elevated monorail track is only about 50 feet from the runway on the South end. The monorail line to EPCOT was not in the original plan for the park. That's why the station setup at Transportation and Ticket Center is pretty poorly laid out.


I don't know where you get that from, using Google Earth I'm measuring about 400ft from the monorail to the extended runway centerline. I'd have no qualms landing a Twin Otter there.

Shawnee Airlines ceased operations before EPCOT center even existed, the monorail was not the cause of the eventual airport closure.


You know they had to build EPCOT. It didn't just appear one day. It took many years to build and plan. They shut the airport when the plans for the EPCOT monorail line were approved.
In the late 1970s the elevated monorail was extended near the end of the runway, making landing a plane there much too dangerous.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/sin ... ld-airport

Fine 400'. Still too close.


Too close? Based on what? The "much too dangerous" comment sounds like personal opinion of the journalist wrote that Atlas Obscura article. Some of the tree tops in the area are taller than the monorail.

Read cloudboy's post for the more likely reason for the airport closure. There's a reason Shawnee stopped flying there long before the airport closed.
 
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Re: Walt Disney World had an airport?

Tue May 08, 2018 7:46 pm

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Too close? Based on what? The "much too dangerous" comment sounds like personal opinion of the journalist wrote that Atlas Obscura article. Some of the tree tops in the area are taller than the monorail.

Read cloudboy's post for the more likely reason for the airport closure. There's a reason Shawnee stopped flying there long before the airport closed.

You realize a tree probably doesn't have 300 people riding in it?

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