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Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Tue May 08, 2018 9:41 pm

Interesting. I don't remember anything about Legend Airlines.


A lawsuit over the late Legend Airlines turns 10 this year — and to mark the occasion, a federal appeals court has vacated a judge's 2-year-old ruling that awarded more than $133 million to the financiers behind the short-lived carrier and its Dallas Love Field terminal.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/air ... mise-lives
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 pm

Legend was created to take advantage of a loophole in the Wright Amendment. Planes with fewer than 57 passenger seats could fly beyond the 5-state Wright Amendment area, so Legend configured DC-9's in an all-business class layout. AA sued Legend for years to try to keep it from starting up, and then when it did start flying, AA configured a bunch of F-100s in a similar configuration to undercut Legend's prices. When Legend finally went under, AA got rid of the F-100 flights. In exchange for getting the Wright Amendment lifted, Love Field agreed to go down to 20 gates, which made the Legend terminal unnecessary, and its gates were torn down.
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Tue May 08, 2018 11:05 pm

"In exchange for getting the Wright Amendment lifted, Love Field agreed to go down to 20 gates, which made the Legend terminal unnecessary, and its gates were torn down..

Your sentence should have read: In exchange for getting the Wright Amendment lifted, Love Field agreed to go down to 20 gates, which put the Legend gates over the 20 gate limit, and its gates were torn down.

I suspect that if the gates existed today, that DL would jump all over every one of them.
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 12:09 am

bob75013 wrote:
"In exchange for getting the Wright Amendment lifted, Love Field agreed to go down to 20 gates, which made the Legend terminal unnecessary, and its gates were torn down..

Your sentence should have read: In exchange for getting the Wright Amendment lifted, Love Field agreed to go down to 20 gates, which put the Legend gates over the 20 gate limit, and its gates were torn down.

I suspect that if the gates existed today, that DL would jump all over every one of them.


The Legend Terminal was a seperate terminal off of Lemon Avenue and the ramp space was tight even for DC9 aircraft. If it was still in existence today Delta would have a heck of a time using Airbus A320 aircraft there.
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 12:16 am

Legend was doomed regardless of the W.A. The cost of litigation and AA moving into DAL and matching their routes and fares never gave them a chance. Love Field is probably always going to be a FUBAR situation.
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 12:16 am

Legend was doomed regardless of the W.A. The cost of litigation and AA moving into DAL and matching their routes and fares never gave them a chance. Love Field is probably always going to be a FUBAR situation.
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 2:24 am

Legend had some ex Midwest Express blood in leadership -- here's one of their timetables.

http://www.departedflights.com/LC040500p1.html
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 2:41 am

I flew on them once - RT to Los Angeles. Service was exemplary, a great experience. All except the way Chuck Norris (across the aisle from me) left his fingernail clippings in a pile on the leather seat. That was odd.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 4:32 am

I only had one flight on the airline - DAL/LAS. Seats were nice and roomy, but I was disappointed as the "first class service" did not include free liquor - unlike first class service on every other airline
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 5:38 am

I flew on Legend for one roundtrip, DAL-IAD-DAL.
It was phenomenal. As a startup carrier, they'd gathered cabin crews who actually **WANTED** to be there.
And the food was outstanding.
They were also among the first carriers to offer seatback live TV via satellite.
Live flowers in the bulkheads, lavatories, and at gate areas.

Their reliability was a bit rough; the DC-9s came from Continental, and were totally trashed. They took a lot more capital than expected to overhaul, I recall reading at the time, and dispatch reliability wasn't great.
But when there were delays, the airline would cater in sandwiches and meals from fancy local area restaurants. And served them at the gate.

Their terminal was custom built, and required aircraft to be towed into and out of gates. The parking garage is still standing.

I attended the liquidation auction, and consequently have a house full of Legend Airlines stuff. Including about twelve billion Legend-branded post-it notes!

It doesn't surprise me that the creditors lawsuit is ongoing; these things seem to drag on until the original parties are all dead. It's only been in the last few years that the final payments were made from the Pan Am estate!
 
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Re: Legend Airlines existed for 8 months. The $133M lawsuit over its Love Field demise lives on

Wed May 09, 2018 6:14 am

marcory wrote:
AA configured a bunch of F-100s in a similar configuration to undercut Legend's prices.


Undercut or aggressively match?

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