leghorn wrote:find themselves landing at Hahn when they arrive late and that will give the pilots motivation to arrive on time.
PanHAM wrote:The whole things is a Ryanair bashing, the Airport NIMBYs do not want low cost carriers at FRA.
DominikR83 wrote:I live in Raunheim(west of the airport) and the landing planes can be very loud(especially when a 747 is passing over ones head at approx. 1000 feet) so i can understand that there had to be a political deal with the villages aorund the airport to get the 4th runway.
PanHAM wrote:Late evening landings are mainly 738s and A320s and other smaller jets. These do the bulk of European Holiday föights. Heavis take off till 11pm but hardly any landings. The total issue is hysteric and totally over blown. The Monday demonstrations against noise is folklore and mainly by people 70 and older.
The curfew imposed in 2011 is not compatible with operational Needs at a Major hub Airport-simple as that.
leghorn wrote:The article mentions a potential fine of 50,000 euro per incident. If the local government loses patience with them then they'll start enforcing the fines.
I think they are being indulged at the moment as they are new to the airport but they'll just be fined in to compliance and/or given last incoming slots earlier in the night. If FRA are really annoyed with them they'll find themselves landing at Hahn when they arrive late and that will give the pilots motivation to arrive on time.
PanHAM wrote:The gioal of the NIMBYs is a curfew from 10 pm to 6 am and a capping of the Overall movements to 380 K p.a.. And no Terminal three. That would destrony not only Fraport but many small and medium companies around FRA.
PanHAM wrote:In the first years almost every day an A380 or a 747 had to taxi back to the gate because ATC gave them taxi clearance at 22h30 but due to traffic was delayed and take off time went to 23h01. Each time up to a Million € went down the drain.
PanHAM wrote:The curfew is bad and has affected FRA because it is impractical and not logic.
FatCat wrote:I was in Frankfurt on a business trip in Feb and my hotel was in Offenbach
Shouldn't this policy be reviewed and instead of a blanket(sic) ban shouldn't more modern quieter planes be allowed to land at night using the equivalent fo the green sticker on the windscreen of german cars e.g. if your machine doesn't conform to certain standards then you aren't welcome around here(at this time of night).
FRA is a very expensive piece of infrastructure to be leaving idle for many hours each day.
I can just see the BFU Accident Report published sometime in 2026 after some airline's anxious drivers ram their plane into the ground at FRA because they were too motivated to battle the crosswind and windshear and land before 23:00 local rather than have to position to HHN..
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