phluser wrote:jetero wrote:Of course BWI to IAD won’t get service.
Then, not sure why you wrote:jetero wrote:Downtown Baltimore to IAD: 60 mi, potential nonstop service
Potential nonstop service in that they can drive to IAD and reach many international markets nonstop.
phluser wrote:ABE to PHL has nonstop service on AA. About the same hassle of driving time (from Baltimore to IAD) and AA warrants the service from Allentown to PHL.
Such routes are the exception rather than the rule.
phluser wrote:jetero wrote:How is UA ceding the market by putting people on BOM flights via YYZ? More than likely a much better passenger experience at YYZ than EWR.
That's partner Air Canada service, w/ Air Canada receiving the revenue.
Wrong. The revenue is pooled and split. UA wouldn't be selling such tickets at attractive prices on its website otherwise.
phluser wrote:jetero wrote:(for some reason driving 300+ miles if you live in Virginia Beach is somehow OK).
Because Virginia Beach is a much smaller region in population, offering less value to the EWR hub for it's connections to international markets. Majority of the O&D between NJ and that area will likely stick to driving.
I'd like to hear UA's plans for PHF, with connections to IAD and EWR, and the O&D it will capture for high yielding business passengers from there.
As for "offering less value to the EWR hub for it's [sic] connections to international markets," you have somehow decided that BWI is some linchpin in UA's network out of EWR because Baltimore has a larger metro area than Norfolk. I'm sure the statistics indicate at the very least that the magnitude of such gap is much smaller than you think it is. An average of 120 passengers (enplaned, not O&D) per day flew BWI-EWR in 2017 (4 ERJs on peak days, with 2 connecting to the TATL banks), more than likely 80%+ connecting. What share of those passengers do you think connected internationally? Almost twice that flew EWR-ORF, and I'm sure a much better proportion were O&D.
Is UA right in assuming many passengers will choose to fly out of IAD nonstop to the primary international destinations in Europe? Is it OK sending 5 passengers per day to India via YYZ? Is it OK with some passengers choosing to take Amtrak? Is it OK with some passengers choosing to go down to DCA? Is it OK with losing some passengers? The answer to all of the above is yes.