tigamilla
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Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 3:23 pm

This morning I saw a presenter get drowned out by a low flying aircarft as she tried to present something royal wedding related from Windsor ahead of tomorrow, which got me mildy interested in finding out if Heathrow traffic will be routed away from the area during the wedding tomorrow? Any ideas? :airplane: :airplane:
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 3:28 pm

I find it hard to believe that they would, if for no other reason than the negative press it could generate, as a general rule the UK royals are quite active in their efforts to minimise their impact on every day life of the general public, as is also the case with senior parliamentarians...you’ll never see massive changes to operations such as NFZ etc that you’ll see with the likes of POTUS, similarly when you see them travelling often they will be just 2-3 cars and a few outriders to expedite them through junctions rather than closed roads and shutdowns
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 4:03 pm

They may go single runway for a while or switch to westerly ops given only light easterly winds are forecast. There will still be noise from departures though.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 4:23 pm

If Heathrow went single runway for an hour causing massive disruption to thousands of people purely for 2 people getting married then there would be uproar in the UK.

Nothing will happen.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 4:40 pm

During the London Olympic Games, we had a great deal of protection for all at the games. No fly zone with armed Typhoons instantly ready, plus ground to air missiles ditto. Aircraft Carrier on the Thames river with helos full of SAS soldiers. Undisclosed on-site armed plain clothed folk, etc etc. I expect snipers were at the ready. The whole shebang. Complete with James Bond assisting our Head of State to parachute into the Arena !!

But weather permitting, our Head of State rides down The Mall in a open horse drawn carriage when welcoming a foreign potentate to Buckingham Palace. We are a peace loving people, very very few of our Police are armed. Most Police around our Parliament are unarmed, although the inner ring of defence has armed plain clothed folk. There will always be a risk e.g. shootings of US Presidents and other high ups. But absolute safety is an impossible dream.
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 5:31 pm

Most likely there will be restrictions of all aircraft including drones and of all small airports except those of the military and police for a certain distance around Windsor and below a certain altitude for security reasons. Most aircraft going into LHR, LGW shouldn't be affected but may see adjustments in routings to avoid Windsor area airspace .
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 6:30 pm

There's a royal wedding?
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:06 pm

How can you reroute planes on approach to runway 09 at LHR when they are only 1 minute out when they pass over Windsor?!
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:15 pm

andymartin wrote:
How can you reroute planes on approach to runway 09 at LHR when they are only 1 minute out when they pass over Windsor?!
Pedantic! I meant well take active measures to reduce noise? E.g. Landing on 27R and taking off from 27L and going south after takeoff could be an option...

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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:15 pm

It is shocking that this topic can a) make it into and then b) can stay open here in this forum. People get married everyday and it is a far stretch to make it related to civil Aviation. Mod, please lock this topic.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:18 pm

JayBCNLON wrote:
It is shocking that this topic can a) make it into and then b) can stay open here in this forum. People get married everyday and it is a far stretch to make it related to civil Aviation. Mod, please lock this topic.
You don't have to read it. It is of mild interest to me, not because of the wedding but because I like aviation (in fact I'm going flying tomorrow).

That's a very strange attitude to display towards something that is posing you no harm whatsoever and is actually on topic.

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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:24 pm

JayBCNLON wrote:
It is shocking that this topic can a) make it into and then b) can stay open here in this forum. People get married everyday and it is a far stretch to make it related to civil Aviation. Mod, please lock this topic.


Major members of a major royal family don't get married under the approach path to one of the world's most major airports every day. It's a legitimate question to ask if there is going to be an effect on aviation, especially considering LHR is already extremely congested and even minor delays tend to snowball.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:27 pm

ltbewr wrote:
Most likely there will be restrictions of all aircraft including drones and of all small airports except those of the military and police for a certain distance around Windsor and below a certain altitude for security reasons.


It's already been reported that drones have been banned from the area. Given there will be news helicopters around I suspect there will be some restriction on light planes below a certain altitude but that's just a guess.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:31 pm

Here is the official restrictions information

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/403/pdfs/uksi_20180403_en.pdf
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:39 pm

kabi101 wrote:
Here is the official restrictions information

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2018/403/pdfs/uksi_20180403_en.pdf
Thank you, very interesting!

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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Fri May 18, 2018 7:55 pm

Lentini2001 wrote:
There's a royal wedding?


I love Royal Wedding, Fred Astaire was really in a league of his own.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Sat May 19, 2018 10:09 am

Serves them right for building a castle so close to an Int. Airport. :rotfl:
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Sat May 19, 2018 10:57 am

There must be some restriction, nothing on approach over Windsor for last 15 minutes. Next ones on way again but not yet on final approach.
 
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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Sat May 19, 2018 12:04 pm

I've just checked on FR24. No flights over the city. Approaches are from the west. Departing aircraft zoom away to NE or SE.


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Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

Sat May 19, 2018 1:11 pm

    flyingturtle wrote:
    I've just checked on FR24. No flights over the city. Approaches are from the west. Departing aircraft zoom away to NE or SE.


    David


    You do know that Windsor castle is to the WEST of Heathrow? Pretty much right on the final to 9L.
     
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 1:16 pm

    Arrivals were stopped for around 15 minutes (from 11:45-12:00L), but have since resumed during the ceremony including parallel arrivals onto 09L and 09R.
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 1:16 pm

    I'm not surprised they stopped, one loud plane at the wrong time and that's a PR fail for Heathrow's expansion plan.
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 1:29 pm

    Pedantic! I meant well take active measures to reduce noise? E.g. Landing on 27R and taking off from 27L and going south after takeoff could be an option...

    Err, you obviously dont know airport operations depend on wind direction, go do some research,educate yourself, consult a map, then you will realise winds from the east means using the 09s, even the royal family cant control the wind.
     
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 1:33 pm

    BA93 LHR-YYZ is operating today with crew members either named Harry or Megan

    https://twitter.com/flightradar24/statu ... 9286994945

    The cabin crew of 10 consists of 2 Harry's and 8 Megan's

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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 1:50 pm

    qf789 wrote:
    BA93 LHR-YYZ is operating today with crew members either named Harry or Megan

    https://twitter.com/flightradar24/statu ... 9286994945

    The cabin crew of 10 consists of 2 Harry's and 8 Megan's

    http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/p ... ?ref=email


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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 1:51 pm

    I was at Heathrow at the time. Not watching aircraft however, watching the wedding in the skyteam lounge instead.
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 2:07 pm

    readytotaxi wrote:
    Serves them right for building a castle so close to an Int. Airport. :rotfl:


    That's what my neighbour, a flight attendant with British Airways, said to her two kids. It took them quite a while to get the joke...
     
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 3:04 pm

    andymartin wrote:


    Err, you obviously dont know airport operations depend on wind direction, go do some research,educate yourself, consult a map, then you will realise winds from the east means using the 09s, even the royal family cant control the wind.


    Take it easy Andymartin! I was just offering an example (obviously for my example to be true, prevailing winds would have to be in the right direction - hence my "e.g.").

    Maybe you could go do some research, educate yourself and realise that people respond better to people who don't assume they are stupid, or uneducated :)

    P.S: I enjoyed flying around the South East of England this morning, stunning day for it. Stayed away from Windsor though.



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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 3:28 pm

    readytotaxi wrote:
    Serves them right for building a castle so close to an Int. Airport. :rotfl:


    Yeah but when the Americans built the castle shortly after winning the Battle of Britain for us nobody could have known how much it would grow.
     
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 3:35 pm

    It's late at night and maybe my brain isn't working... that legislation document says:

    In relation to regulation 3, the term ‘aircraft’ includes aircraft as classified by Part 1 of Schedule 4
    to the Air Navigation Order 2016. It also includes, by virtue of article 23 of that Order, any small
    balloon, any kite weighing not more than two kilograms, any small unmanned aircraft and any
    parachute including a parascending parachute.


    Should that not be there? If I'm reading this right then I am allowed to fly a 3kg kite, but not a small kite...
     
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    Sat May 19, 2018 5:04 pm

    cloudlake wrote:
    It's late at night and maybe my brain isn't working... that legislation document says:

    In relation to regulation 3, the term ‘aircraft’ includes aircraft as classified by Part 1 of Schedule 4
    to the Air Navigation Order 2016. It also includes, by virtue of article 23 of that Order, any small
    balloon, any kite weighing not more than two kilograms, any small unmanned aircraft and any
    parachute including a parascending parachute.


    Should that not be there? If I'm reading this right then I am allowed to fly a 3kg kite, but not a small kite...


    I think those above 2kg are covered under Part 1 of Schedule 4.

    In other words, no flying anything...period.
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 7:17 pm

    Quiet during the wedding. A noisy one flew over as the couple were halfway down the church stairway afterwards. Harry looked up at it.
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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sat May 19, 2018 8:16 pm

    Aer Lingus flight shot under one of the police helicopters monitoring the crowd. Must have been fun for the crew!

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    Re: Flights Over Windsor and Royal Wedding

    Sun May 20, 2018 2:44 pm

    Gingersnap wrote:
    cloudlake wrote:
    It's late at night and maybe my brain isn't working... that legislation document says:

    In relation to regulation 3, the term ‘aircraft’ includes aircraft as classified by Part 1 of Schedule 4
    to the Air Navigation Order 2016. It also includes, by virtue of article 23 of that Order, any small
    balloon, any kite weighing not more than two kilograms, any small unmanned aircraft and any
    parachute including a parascending parachute.


    Should that not be there? If I'm reading this right then I am allowed to fly a 3kg kite, but not a small kite...


    I think those above 2kg are covered under Part 1 of Schedule 4.

    In other words, no flying anything...period.


    Thank you Gingersnap, that makes perfect sense :smile:

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