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Update on CU972 crashed near HAV: Aircraft probably wrongly loaded

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:14 pm
by ikolkyo

Update on CU972 crashed near HAV: Aircraft probably wrongly loaded

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:15 pm
by JoKeR
Repotedly a 737 down near Jose Marti Airport

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:16 pm
by SCQ83
Reportedly a Cubana plane

https://twitter.com/CubaTVSITVC/status/ ... 2407996416

But Cubana doesn't seem to have 737s.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:17 pm
by Blankbarcode
Different reports of it being a Cubana flight and an American flight.

https://twitter.com/blakeley1990/status ... 34498?s=19

https://twitter.com/CubaTVSITVC/status/ ... 96416?s=19

Cubana doesn't operate the 737, so if the other report holds water... I'm very worried indeed.

I hope all goes well for everyone involved

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:22 pm
by ikolkyo
geardown wrote:
CNN says the plane was going to GCM (Guyana). Could it be Cayman Airways flight KX833 ?


Can’t be, flight isn’t to depart for another 2 hours.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:22 pm
by Samrnpage
Twitter reporting it was an American flight?

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:24 pm
by KICT
Oh no, looks like it could have been AA1334.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:24 pm
by flyguy84
Majority reports claim it’s a Cubana flight, but where did they get the 737 from?

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:24 pm
by geardown
Edited for giving wrong info.

One website says the plane was going to Holguin (CU972).

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:24 pm
by Samrnpage
Scrap that - its one of Cubanas 737-300/400s

737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:25 pm
by utio2003
A Cubana 737 crashes in La Havana after take off

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:27 pm
by D L X
FYI - AA's webpage says AA1334 is awaiting takeoff at the time that I write this.

EDIT: at 1:24 ET, the aa.com page now says "Delayed: In Flight."

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:28 pm
by winGl3t
geardown wrote:
CNN says the plane was going to GCM (Guyana). Could it be Cayman Airways flight KX833 ?

Flight 833 is only suppose to depart in a couple of hours, so I don't think so.

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:28 pm
by backseatdriver
Cubana flies 737s?

Prayers for the safety of all involved.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:28 pm
by SCQ83
D L X wrote:
FYI - AA's webpage says AA1334 is awaiting takeoff at the time that I write this.


Indeed, AA1334 would fit with the time of the crash due to the delay. Hopefully it is not that flight

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ ... /MUHA/KMIA

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:30 pm
by sw733
geardown wrote:
CNN says the plane was going to GCM (Guyana). Could it be Cayman Airways flight KX833 ?


I'm confused, are they saying it's going to Grand Cayman or Guyana?

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:30 pm
by HPRamper
Conflicting reports say Guyana and Holguin. In any case, most sources are saying Cubana.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:31 pm
by Samrnpage
Copa CM219 has taken off at 1:15pm local time but it nowhere to be seen on radar apps?

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:32 pm
by CrimsonNL
Blue Panorama's I-BPAC has been active around Cuba on behalf of Cubana. 734, apparently active as recent as two days ago.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... s/RWgphGbA

Martijn

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:32 pm
by MalevTU134
utio2003 wrote:
A Cubana 737 crashes in La Havana after take off

Source?
And it is either Havana (English) or La Habana (Spanish)

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:32 pm
by FabDiva
Now being reported as a Cubana domestic flight

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:33 pm
by sw733
D L X wrote:
FYI - AA's webpage says AA1334 is awaiting takeoff at the time that I write this.

Flightaware is saying this too. Could be that they can't take off because of the accident or that they were the accident. It is a 738 flight, so that woudl explain the 737 thoughts.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:34 pm
by EK006
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-44176899

Radio Habana Cuba said it was an internal flight from the Cuban capital to Holguin, in the east of the island.
So it doesn't seem to be the AA flight

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:34 pm
by vpat48
This tweet with a picture says it's an American flight. I don't know if that means AA or an American airline.

https://twitter.com/blakeley1990/status ... 6265834498

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:35 pm
by MalevTU134
CBS reporting it's a domestic flight, CNN says it was to Guyana.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:35 pm
by sw733
BBC now saying it was a 737. COPA also had a 737 departure around the same time, and has a livery more similar to Cubana than AA's. Perhaps that was it?

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:36 pm
by winGl3t
According to FR24 CU972 is a flight with service from HAV to HOG on a 737 (Blue Panorama's?)
Other CU flights are being shown as AT7 and 320

edited for spellig

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:36 pm
by Dublinspotter
Xtra Airways XP704 is not trackable, a chartered 737 bound for Miami.

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:36 pm
by Boair
#Breaking 737 Crash on departure in Cuba. Translation from @CubaTVSITVC Aerial accident occurred with a Blue Panorama leased by Cubana de Aviación. Its destination was the province of Holguín, in the east of the country. Ambulances and firefighters on the track.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:37 pm
by Armodeen
CrimsonNL wrote:
Blue Panorama's I-BPAC has been active around Cuba on behalf of Cubana. 734, apparently active as recent as two days ago.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... s/RWgphGbA

Martijn


It seems that it is indeed the Blue Panorama 734

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:37 pm
by dampfnudel
The Cubana B737 was headed to Guyana and Cuban state media is reporting that there are casualties.

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:37 pm
by MalevTU134
107 persons on board, according to Sweden's SVT

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:37 pm
by KLDC10
Source here; but as far as I'm aware, Cubana don't operate the 737.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44176899

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by D L X
sw733 wrote:
BBC now saying it was a 737. COPA also had a 737 departure around the same time, and has a livery more similar to Cubana than AA's. Perhaps that was it?

Copaair.com reports that CM219 is in flight.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by Samrnpage
edu2703 wrote:
Report says it was a Blue Panorama 734 operated by Cubana with 107 poeople on board going to Holguin


Confirmed now

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by EvanWSFO
Not much on the news networks due to Texas school shooting.

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by mikegigs
One report I saw said it was a "Cuban airline jet", another said it was "a Boeing 737", neither specified the airline name though... Prayers to those involved

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by xaapb
sw733 wrote:
BBC now saying it was a 737. COPA also had a 737 departure around the same time, and has a livery more similar to Cubana than AA's. Perhaps that was it?

It wasn't COPA 737, currently crusing at FL330 https://www.flightradar24.com/CMP372/116bd4cc

Greetings.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by Blankbarcode
Looking at FR27, there was a scheduled Cubana flight at 11AM to Holguin. Equipment: 737

Flight number CU972, unknown status atm

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by Mortyman
Local 10's Havana bureau chief Hatzel Vela reports Cuban state-run television says the plane was a Boeing 737. The plane was rented by Cubana, the country's national airline, from Blue Panorama.


In a post to social media, Cuba's ambassador in the U.S., José Ramón Cabañas, said 104 passengers were onboard the flight.

Vela says the plane was headed for Holguin on the eastern side of the island and crashed near a high school campus.


https://www.local10.com/news/cuba/plane ... eports-say

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:38 pm
by Btblue
Cuban state TV saying its a Blue Panorama 737, leased to Cubana. As reported by Aviation Safety Network.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:39 pm
by richierich
Not a good story at all. My thoughts are with those who are directly affected by this tragedy. Crashes on takeoff - with a huge plume of smoke - usually does not end well.
I was fortunate enough to pass through HAV in late 2016 and I found the people of Cuba to be friendly and welcoming. Only politics gets in the way.

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:39 pm
by dampfnudel
KLDC10 wrote:
Source here; but as far as I'm aware, Cubana don't operate the 737.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44176899


Maybe there’s some confusion here and it’s not a Cubana flight.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by D L X
Samrnpage wrote:
Copa CM219 has taken off at 1:15pm local time but it nowhere to be seen on radar apps?


My guess is that there aren't any private ADS-B receivers in Cuba, so it won't get picked up until it's in airspace that these sites get reports from. AA1334 isn't on flightradar24 yet, for instance, but the aa.com website shows it over the gulf right now.

Edit: CM219 now shows up on flightradar24.

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by drdisque
FR24 has live data from AAL1334 to MIA in the air North off the coast of HAV. So that's almost assuredly not it.

Re: 737 crashes in La Havana

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by TWA302

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by n471wn
Cubana does fly one leased 737-200

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by EK006
SCQ83 wrote:
D L X wrote:
FYI - AA's webpage says AA1334 is awaiting takeoff at the time that I write this.


Indeed, AA1334 would fit with the time of the crash due to the delay. Hopefully it is not that flight

https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/ ... /MUHA/KMIA


its currently in the air according to flightradar24

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by Btblue

Re: Plane down near HAV

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by washingtonflyer
Actual Runway Departure changed to May-18-2018 1:23 PM for AA 1334 according to Flightstats.

Regardless of whose plane it is, this looks very serious.