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FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 5:59 pm

Today is the day! Icelandair begins its first ever flight to Kansas City this evening. This is also MCI's first scheduled flight to Europe and is the end result after 10 years of lobbying to airlines. I'm hopeful this flight will grow beyond seasonal and into year round.

I did a dummy booking for the first two weeks of service and the outbound flights are close to 80% full while inbound flights are only 50%. Yes its largely antidotal but for a new and relatively unknown service in a non-hub, mid sized city is this a good or bad sign? Plus does MCI have the proper catering facilities to provide hot meals for FI business class? I've never seen fresh hot meals served on outbound flights.

Also what are MCI's odds of attracting more EU service particularly once the new terminal opens? Airport management stated they are trying to attract service to LHR and FRA next. I'm guessing FRA would be better done through Condor and not LH but who would be willing to serve LHR? BA, DL, AA? DL is my guess while I could see BA going to STL. DL the second biggest airline at MCI and KC has a lot of Skyteam members. Perhaps a 4x weekly service via 767? I could see MCI eventually growing a network similar to PDX, RDU or BWI. Also what about AMS or CDG instead?

In any case, this is a significant achievement for Kansas City and congrats to all involved. My hometown is moving up!

Read the rest of the story below.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... 99344.html
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:12 pm

Would love to see a final onto 27, so I can sit in my backyard and watch it fly over this evening. We live off the extended 9/27 centerline.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:12 pm

I am considering this flight just to fly to Europe from MCI! My only experience for Intl travel from MCI is to Toronto in 1998. I do think that the new terminal will generate a lot more attention than people are expecting. While KC will never be anything more than a focus city for an airline or two, it certainly can get more flights from more places. LHR or AMS would be my best guess for a major hub in Europe. But that is slim. But, KC does have some huge international engineering firms and law firms. Who knows?

I am 100% in agreement with you about a SkyTeam airline group doing a metal neutral flight to AMS. That would make my life so much easier. I get so tired of connecting in MSP, DTW, ATL or JFK. CDG would be good as well but I don't think the "French Connection" will pan out.

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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:14 pm

trexel94 wrote:
Today is the day! Icelandair begins its first ever flight to Kansas City this evening. This is also MCI's first scheduled flight to Europe and is the end result after 10 years of lobbying to airlines. I'm hopeful this flight will grow beyond seasonal and into year round.

I did a dummy booking for the first two weeks of service and the outbound flights are close to 80% full while inbound flights are only 50%. Yes its largely antidotal but for a new and relatively unknown service in a non-hub, mid sized city is this a good or bad sign? Plus does MCI have the proper catering facilities to provide hot meals for FI business class? I've never seen fresh hot meals served on outbound flights.

Also what are MCI's odds of attracting more EU service particularly once the new terminal opens? Airport management stated they are trying to attract service to LHR and FRA next. I'm guessing FRA would be better done through Condor and not LH but who would be willing to serve LHR? BA, DL, AA? DL is my guess while I could see BA going to STL. DL the second biggest airline at MCI and KC has a lot of Skyteam members. Perhaps a 4x weekly service via 767? I could see MCI eventually growing a network similar to PDX, RDU or BWI. Also what about AMS or CDG instead?

In any case, this is a significant achievement for Kansas City and congrats to all involved. My hometown is moving up!

Read the rest of the story below.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... 99344.html


A few twitter handles to capture the play-by-play: @FriendlySkies1K and @AirlineReporter.

As a KC native, I too, am super excited about this! Overall, I suspect it will be a wait and see approach. FI runs through September, so as the data starts to flow in I am sure the aviation department will leverage in other discussions with carriers. I am not sure how likely another transatlantic flight is though, at least for the next 18-24 months.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:14 pm

727tiger wrote:
Would love to see a final onto 27, so I can sit in my backyard and watch it fly over this evening. We live off the extended 9/27 centerline.


Watch Party up north! Everyone bring your chair, camera, and beverage of choice while tracking the flight on your tablet.
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:16 pm

e38 wrote:
Quoting trexel94 (thread starter), "Yes its largely antidotal . . .

What is the definition of "antidotal?"

Also, "does MCI have the proper catering facilities to provide hot meals for FI business class?"

Well, do you think Icelandair would be inaugurating service to a new city if they were not able to support the product they provide? I'm not familiar with catering operations at MCI, but my guess would be that whichever company they contract with--perhaps LSG Sky Chefs or Gategourmet--will provide them with whatever level of product for which Icelandair contracts.

e38


Judging by the looks of icelandair's meager Business Class meal offerings in recent trip reports, their catering is very basic and could easily be handled by any caterer.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:21 pm

Quoting trexel94 (thread starter), "Yes its largely antidotal . . .

What is the definition of "antidotal?"

Also, "does MCI have the proper catering facilities to provide hot meals for FI business class?"

Well, do you think Icelandair would be inaugurating service to a new city if they were not able to support the product they provide? I'm not familiar with catering operations at MCI, but my guess would be that whichever company they contract with--perhaps LSG Sky Chefs or Gategourmet--will provide them with whatever level of product for which Icelandair contracts.

e38
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:22 pm

727tiger wrote:
Would love to see a final onto 27, so I can sit in my backyard and watch it fly over this evening. We live off the extended 9/27 centerline.


You really should try and catch the flight. Its the Aurora livery coming!
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:25 pm

trexel94 wrote:
727tiger wrote:
Would love to see a final onto 27, so I can sit in my backyard and watch it fly over this evening. We live off the extended 9/27 centerline.


You really should try and catch the flight. Its the Aurora livery coming!


Awesome livery for this flight. That's it. I'm going to try and snap a few pics today.
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:26 pm

e38 wrote:
Quoting trexel94 (thread starter), "Yes its largely antidotal . . .

What is the definition of "antidotal?"

Also, "does MCI have the proper catering facilities to provide hot meals for FI business class?"

Well, do you think Icelandair would be inaugurating service to a new city if they were not able to support the product they provide? I'm not familiar with catering operations at MCI, but my guess would be that whichever company they contract with--perhaps LSG Sky Chefs or Gategourmet--will provide them with whatever level of product for which Icelandair contracts.

e38


Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:40 pm

of course. and if you go to fly them, get the marriage cake. it's delicious and usually sells out.
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 6:40 pm

"they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights"

stlgph, that makes sense. Thank you.

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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 7:08 pm

Ranking of US airports without a link to Iceland .......by annual pax.

Where would MCI sit.....??

Image

and while we are at it, here are the favourite European destinations.

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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 7:25 pm

factsonly wrote:
Ranking of US airports without a link to Iceland .......by annual pax.

Where would MCI sit.....??

Image

and while we are at it, here are the favourite European destinations.

Image


It wouldn't be on this chart. 11,503,936 in 2017.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 8:13 pm

Is WOW Air still considering adding MCI at this point? They initially were going to fly there until they chose STL but stated MCI was still a possibility in 2019. Now that FI is flying the route is WOW Air off the table for good now?
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 8:26 pm

WOW AIR is never off the table...they will find other and different destinations like SLC f. e. with a lot of mormon community which is also situated in Iceland.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 8:46 pm

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a lot of mormon community which is also situated in Iceland.


now these are the kind of nuggets I need more of from a.net ! Had no idea Mormons had any prominence in Iceland. Of course, if your entire population numbers 335,000, the number of a minority group can't exactly be so large.

Still- it'd fascinating if it turned out to be an "untapped market" !
 
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Fri May 25, 2018 8:53 pm

I'll be on the inaugural MCI-KEF tomorrow, can't wait. I'll do my best to do a trip report, but no promises.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 9:00 pm

FlyHappy wrote:
AirbusOnly wrote:
a lot of mormon community which is also situated in Iceland.


now these are the kind of nuggets I need more of from a.net ! Had no idea Mormons had any prominence in Iceland. Of course, if your entire population numbers 335,000, the number of a minority group can't exactly be so large.

Still- it'd fascinating if it turned out to be an "untapped market" !


I don't know if AirbusOnly was being serious but the entire Mormon population in Iceland could probably fit comfortably on a single flight.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 10:21 pm

hvusslax wrote:
FlyHappy wrote:
AirbusOnly wrote:
a lot of mormon community which is also situated in Iceland.


now these are the kind of nuggets I need more of from a.net ! Had no idea Mormons had any prominence in Iceland. Of course, if your entire population numbers 335,000, the number of a minority group can't exactly be so large.

Still- it'd fascinating if it turned out to be an "untapped market" !


I don't know if AirbusOnly was being serious but the entire Mormon population in Iceland could probably fit comfortably on a single flight.


Yep, probably even if the flight was a Dash 8...
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 10:49 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
hvusslax wrote:
FlyHappy wrote:

now these are the kind of nuggets I need more of from a.net ! Had no idea Mormons had any prominence in Iceland. Of course, if your entire population numbers 335,000, the number of a minority group can't exactly be so large.

Still- it'd fascinating if it turned out to be an "untapped market" !


I don't know if AirbusOnly was being serious but the entire Mormon population in Iceland could probably fit comfortably on a single flight.


Yep, probably even if the flight was a Dash 8...


Cessna 172 with a STRONG tail wind?
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Fri May 25, 2018 11:02 pm

dochawk2 wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
hvusslax wrote:

I don't know if AirbusOnly was being serious but the entire Mormon population in Iceland could probably fit comfortably on a single flight.


Yep, probably even if the flight was a Dash 8...


Cessna 172 with a STRONG tail wind?


Including bags!
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Fri May 25, 2018 11:41 pm

factsonly wrote:
Ranking of US airports without a link to Iceland .......by annual pax.

Where would MCI sit.....??

Image



Care to put the O&D traffic to that? Otherwise you're just saying ATL is a big airport without Iceland service. We knew that.
 
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Fri May 25, 2018 11:49 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
dochawk2 wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:

Yep, probably even if the flight was a Dash 8...


Cessna 172 with a STRONG tail wind?


Including bags!


There are a total of 284 members of the LDS church in Iceland. Hardly worth using as a convincing point to lure SLC-KEF flights.

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/facts-an ... ry/iceland
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 12:35 am

flyoregon wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
dochawk2 wrote:

Cessna 172 with a STRONG tail wind?


Including bags!


There are a total of 284 members of the LDS church in Iceland. Hardly worth using as a convincing point to lure SLC-KEF flights.

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/facts-an ... ry/iceland


Not sure why you’re quoting me...me and dochawk2 were both saying the Mormon-related traffic isn’t enough to justify a daily Cessna, let alone anything remotely similar to scheduled service. ;)
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 5:31 am

smart idea bringing Hekla for the inaugural, myself and others have been peppering their FB thread about the flight, with requests for them to come to our airports. Lots of DTW and even some others besides me asking for RSW. Bring it on FI!!
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 8:17 am

e38[/quote]

Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.[/quote]

Do you think so? Doesn’t the aircraft layover with the crew?? or is that just US west coast?
 
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Sat May 26, 2018 8:23 am

toobz wrote:
e38


Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.[/quote]

Do you think so? Doesn’t the aircraft layover with the crew?? or is that just US west coast?[/quote]

Longer distance east coast flights like KEF-TPA/MCO also have an overnight layover Arrive US ~9PM, depart ~7PM next day.. Doubt they are keeping food on the aircraft for 24+ hours before serving.
 
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Sat May 26, 2018 8:40 am

Just because the crew has a layover, doesn't mean the plane does. Although I am interested in the big scheme of things, how the FI crews look at a layover like MCI. Is it desired or lower on the list? I know crews from some countries love to go shopping in the USA...
 
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Sat May 26, 2018 8:40 am

Sean-SAN- wrote:
Just because the crew has a layover, doesn't mean the plane does. Although I am interested in the big scheme of things, how the FI crews look at a layover like MCI. Is it desired or lower on the list? I know crews from some countries love to go shopping in the USA...


For Kansas City, the plane lays over with the crew.
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axiom wrote:
toobz wrote:
e38


Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.


Do you think so? Doesn’t the aircraft layover with the crew?? or is that just US west coast?[/quote]

Longer distance east coast flights like KEF-TPA/MCO also have an overnight layover Arrive US ~9PM, depart ~7PM next day.. Doubt they are keeping food on the aircraft for 24+ hours before serving.[/quote]

Who says it stays on the plane?

Besides, it's not as if it's just sitting there, out in the open for any bird or bug to come crawling on it. It's made, packed up, stored, and prepared for serving just like any other airplane meal or food you buy at your favorite restaurant.

LOT Polish and Aer Lingus bring their enhanced meals over with them, bring them up during the turn, heat and serve during flight.
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Sat May 26, 2018 9:06 am

Aircraft that do layovers in the US/Canada are catered at the outstation. Only aircraft that return to Iceland right away are backcatered.
 
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Sat May 26, 2018 9:51 am

stlgph wrote:
Sean-SAN- wrote:
Just because the crew has a layover, doesn't mean the plane does. Although I am interested in the big scheme of things, how the FI crews look at a layover like MCI. Is it desired or lower on the list? I know crews from some countries love to go shopping in the USA...


For Kansas City, the plane lays over with the crew.


I stand corrected! Interesting fleet utilization.
 
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Sat May 26, 2018 10:32 am

toobz wrote:
e38


Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.[/quote]

Do you think so? Doesn’t the aircraft layover with the crew?? or is that just US west coast?[/quote]

MCI is done with a layover.

The layover is on flights, where going directly back, would lead to missing the connection bank. The limit is slightly more than 6 hours one way. Let us say 6 hours 30 minutes going west, plus 6 hours going east, will still allow you to hit the bank. 7 hours 45 minutes going west, plus 7 hours going east, would lead to missing the bank.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 11:55 am

Sean-SAN- wrote:
Just because the crew has a layover, doesn't mean the plane does. Although I am interested in the big scheme of things, how the FI crews look at a layover like MCI. Is it desired or lower on the list? I know crews from some countries love to go shopping in the USA...


As FI has 20+ N-American destinations, and the only layovers FI crews do are on N-American flights anyway, shopping isn’t a factor in how popular MCI is as they have plenty of better choices to choose from (NYC, BOS, MSP, YYZ etc) for that particular dynamic. However, as the flight is less than daily, a 2-night layover is probably popular for those crew members wanting to take their family/friends with them.
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Sat May 26, 2018 12:00 pm

mjoelnir wrote:
toobz wrote:
e38


Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.


Do you think so? Doesn’t the aircraft layover with the crew?? or is that just US west coast?[/quote]

MCI is done with a layover.

The layover is on flights, where going directly back, would lead to missing the connection bank. The limit is slightly more than 6 hours one way. Let us say 6 hours 30 minutes going west, plus 6 hours going east, will still allow you to hit the bank. 7 hours 45 minutes going west, plus 7 hours going east, would lead to missing the bank.[/quote]

Correct. YEG, MSP and ORD are the longest flights with a turn right back IIRC, meaning the limit is around 3000 miles.

Map showing areas which work for a straight turnaround, along with examples of routes that turn right back (KEF-IAD, KEF-MSP) and those that don’t (KEF-MCO, KEF-SEA):
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=kef-iad,+k ... rect&DU=mi
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Sat May 26, 2018 12:47 pm

stlgph wrote:
axiom wrote:
toobz wrote:
e38


Icelandair has a very particular menu. I believe they bring in their catering with them on the inbound flights out of KEF.


Do you think so? Doesn’t the aircraft layover with the crew?? or is that just US west coast?


Longer distance east coast flights like KEF-TPA/MCO also have an overnight layover Arrive US ~9PM, depart ~7PM next day.. Doubt they are keeping food on the aircraft for 24+ hours before serving.[/quote]

Who says it stays on the plane?

Besides, it's not as if it's just sitting there, out in the open for any bird or bug to come crawling on it. It's made, packed up, stored, and prepared for serving just like any other airplane meal or food you buy at your favorite restaurant.

LOT Polish and Aer Lingus bring their enhanced meals over with them, bring them up during the turn, heat and serve during flight.[/quote]

The latter carriers don't leave their planes on the ground for a day. That's the point. Offloading and refrigerating that cargo would be an additional and significant cost, beyond the fuel costs and opportunity costs of hauling it over.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 1:05 pm

So? You take it off hire the local cater service and have them deal with it. It doesnt cost a bazillion dollars.
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Sat May 26, 2018 1:38 pm

And again, look at their menu. Fly on their planes. It's very particular in offerings and presentation. You cant just run over to HyVee and pick up a Hver oatmeal and 24 packs of Applesin and Saemundur beer and embroidered containers telling you about your Icelandic cuisine while enjoying your Wanderlust salad.
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Sat May 26, 2018 2:36 pm

stlgph wrote:
And again, look at their menu. Fly on their planes. It's very particular in offerings and presentation. You cant just run over to HyVee and pick up a Hver oatmeal and 24 packs of Applesin and Saemundur beer and embroidered containers telling you about your Icelandic cuisine while enjoying your Wanderlust salad.


I'm not saying they don't do it. I'm explaining why it is expensive (it is). They may find value in doing so.

I've flown them several times, and I am familiar with the product. Thanks.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 2:45 pm

This is great news indeed. Let's hope this flight is a success such that we might see more follow... the likes of Norwegian or Condor or even BA. Bring it on for MCI.
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Sat May 26, 2018 3:20 pm

trexel94 wrote:

Also what are MCI's odds of attracting more EU service particularly once the new terminal opens?

I understand what you are trying to say, but Iceland is not in the EU.
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 5:07 pm

stlgph, I have not heard of this process previously.

Are you saying that due to the specialized nature of the menu aboard Icelandair's flights, the aircraft is roundtrip catered in Iceland prior to its departure, then when it reaches the U.S., the food is removed by a local catering company, stored overnight, then re-loaded aboard the aircraft the next day for the return trip to BIKF? Do you know who the company is at Kansas City that does this?

and LOT and Aer Lingus do this as well at U.S. destinations?

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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 5:23 pm

This was the flight that I really wanted to fly on, but all the discounted J class seats were sold out quickly.

About catering, all the leftover fresh food on international flights have to be literally burned because of the strict agricultural regulation here in the US. Except alcohol and possibly soft drinks and packaged snacks, there were no return catering for fresh food.

I am sure that they will find a local caterer and FI serves pretty basic food even in J (one tray dinner with no bread and a pre-arrival cold meat and cheese plate with croissant).
In Y, it is all BOB and they usually have at least one hot item, like burgers available, and for my CLE inaugural flights, fresh food includes sandwiches and salad.

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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 5:33 pm

Glad to see my former airport snagged the flight...I'll have to nonrev in on it at some point!

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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 5:53 pm

Here is the arrival. Nice spotting location.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3tDVAUTQdk

I haven't found a departure video.
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Sat May 26, 2018 6:52 pm

Indy wrote:
Here is the arrival. Nice spotting location.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3tDVAUTQdk

I haven't found a departure video.



First departure isn’t until tonight!

Glad to see Iceair here!
You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
 
MCIRNO
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 7:33 pm

NZ321 wrote:
This is great news indeed. Let's hope this flight is a success such that we might see more follow... the likes of Norwegian or Condor or even BA. Bring it on for MCI.


Besides WN, which of the three major USA carriers has the most frequent flyers in the KC metro area? DL? AA? or UA?

I think it's DL and could connect MCI with AMS but what would they use. It seems the ideal aircraft is the 787 but they don't fly them; KLM does however.

Maybe AA or BA could connect it with LHR and they have plenty of 787s with more coming.

DY (or whichever code it is now) would do well too
 
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Re: FI begins inaugural service to MCI today

Sat May 26, 2018 10:07 pm

I think it is a dream that a lot of airlines will follow FI to connect MCI with Europe. Part of the new destination that FI tries out are on the list, because they are not well connected to Europe or especially not to northern Europe. Look at DEN, they have a connection to LHR with BA and a connection FRA with LH. Or PDX, you have Icelandair to KEF or Delta to AMS.
KEF has more destinations in North America than, CPH, OSL, ARN and HEL combined.

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