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OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 1:56 pm

FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

WHERE ARE SEATS SHOWN?
They aren't. This only shows departures.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

*4B LAX-MCE JUL 0>3 AUG 0>3 SEP 0>3 OCT 0>3 NOV 0>3 DEC 0>3
*4B MCE-OAK JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.9 SEP 0>1.8 OCT 0>1.9 NOV 0>1.9 DEC 0>1.8

4M MIA-EZE JUL 1.5>1.1

*4O IAH-BJX JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0
4O JFK-CUN JUL 1.0>1.2 AUG 1.0>1.1
How long did that last?
**4O SAT-BJX JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0

Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
4P AVP-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P BKL-LUK JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.2
4P CLT-LUK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P DFW-VCT JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
4P LUK-MDW OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P LUK-MMU JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P LUK-PDK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P MBL-MDW JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.7

8V ARC-FAI JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
8V ARC-FYU JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 NOV 0.7>0 DEC 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
8V CIK-FYU JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0
8V FAI-FYU JUL 1.3>4 AUG 1.3>4 SEP 1.3>4 OCT 1.3>4 NOV 1.3>4 DEC 1.3>4 JAN 1.3>4 FEB 1.3>4
8V FAI-KBC JUL 1.4>0.7 AUG 1.5>0.7 SEP 1.3>0.7 OCT 1.5>0.7 NOV 1.5>0.7 DEC 1.4>0.7 JAN 1.5>0.7 FEB 1.4>0.7
8V FAI-RBY AUG 1.2>0.9 OCT 1.2>0.9 NOV 1.2>0.9
8V GAL-KAL JUL 0.4>0.2 AUG 0.5>0.1 SEP 0.4>0.2 OCT 0.5>0.1 NOV 0.4>0.1 DEC 0.4>0.2 JAN 0.4>0.1 FEB 0.4>0.1
8V GAL-RBY JUL 1.5>0.6 AUG 1.6>0.6 SEP 1.5>0.6 OCT 1.6>0.6 NOV 1.6>0.6 DEC 1.5>0.6 JAN 1.6>0.5 FEB 1.6>0.6
8V HSL-TAL JUL 1.1>0.3 AUG 1.2>0.3 SEP 1.1>0.3 OCT 1.2>0.3 NOV 1.2>0.3 DEC 1.1>0.3 JAN 1.2>0.3 FEB 1.1>0.3
8V RBY-TAL JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0.2 OCT 0.3>0.1 NOV 0.3>0.1 DEC 0.3>0.2 JAN 0.3>0.1 FEB 0.3>0.1

AA JFK-BDA DEC 1.4>1.0 JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.5>1.0
AA JFK-EGE FEB 0>0.7
*AA LAX-MBJ NOV 0.1>0 DEC 0.3>0 JAN 0.2>0 FEB 0.1>0

AC SAN-YVR NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 2>3

AM AUS-MEX OCT 0.9>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.9 JAN 0.9>0.8 FEB 0.9>0.7
AM IAH-MEX OCT 3>2 NOV 3>2 DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 3>2
AM LAS-MEX SEP 2>3
AM MCO-MEX DEC 3>2 JAN 3>1.9
Extended season
*AM SJC-MEX DEC 0>0.6 JAN 0>0.2

B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3
B6 FLL-MDE AUG 1.0>0.8

CA IAH-PEK NOV 0.9>0.6 DEC 0.9>0.6 JAN 0.8>0.5 FEB 0.9>0.6

DE LAS-FRA DEC 0.3>0.4 JAN 0.3>0.5 FEB 0.3>0.4
DE SEA-FRA OCT 0.3>0.4 NOV 0.3>0.5 DEC 0.3>0.4 JAN 0.3>0.4 FEB 0.3>0.4

DL ATL-BHM NOV 9>10
DL ATL-EWR NOV 10>12
DL ATL-FLL OCT 13>12
DL ATL-GNV NOV 7>8
DL ATL-GSP OCT 8>9
DL ATL-IND NOV 9>10
DL ATL-LEX NOV 7>8
DL ATL-PDX SEP 4>3 OCT 4>3
DL ATL-RST SEP 1.6>0.9
*DL BOS-AUA JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1
DL DTW-GRB NOV 3>4
DL DTW-GRR NOV 6>7
DL DTW-TPA OCT 4>3
*DL JFK-ANU JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1
DL JFK-DTW NOV 4>5
DL JFK-GND FEB 0.1>0
*DL JFK-HAV SEP 0.2>0.0 OCT 0.1>0 NOV 0.1>0 DEC 0.2>0 JAN 0.1>0 FEB 0.1>0
DL JFK-PBI SEP 0.1>0.0
DL JFK-PHL SEP 1.0>0.7
DL JFK-PUJ OCT 1.0>1.1 NOV 1.4>1.1 DEC 1.8>1.5
DL LGA-JAX OCT 4>3
DL MIA-MCO SEP 1.0>0.7
DL SEA-YVR NOV 5>6
DL SLC-ASE DEC 1.1>3

G4 ABE-SFB NOV 0.2>1.1 DEC 0>1.1 JAN 0>1.0
G4 AVL-FLL NOV 0.2>1.1 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>0.8
G4 AVL-SFB DEC 0>0.7
G4 AZA-BIS JAN 0>0.8
G4 AZA-FAR JAN 0>0.9
G4 AZA-FSD JAN 0>0.9
G4 AZA-PVU NOV 0.3>1.2 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>0.9
G4 BLI-LAS NOV 0.5>1.9 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.6 FEB 0>0.7
G4 CVG-FLL NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 CVG-PGD NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.9
G4 CVG-PIE NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.8
G4 CVG-SFB NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 CVG-SJU JAN 0>0.1
G4 DSM-LAS DEC 0>0.7
G4 FAT-LAS NOV 0.3>1.6 DEC 0>1.5 JAN 0>1.4
G4 FLL-TYS NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 FLL-USA DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7
G4 FNT-PIE DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 FNT-SFB NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 GRR-SFB NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7
G4 IND-PGD DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.8
G4 IND-PIE DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 LAS-MFE DEC 0>0.7
G4 LAS-OAK NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.8
G4 LAS-RNO NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.8
G4 LAS-SCK NOV 0.3>1.6 DEC 0>1.5 JAN 0>1.4
G4 LEX-SFB DEC 0>0.7
G4 MDT-SFB DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7
G4 PIE-TYS NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8
G4 PIE-USA NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8
G4 PIT-SJU JAN 0>0.1
G4 RDU-SJU DEC 0>0.2 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.1
G4 SFB-SJU NOV 0.1>0.3 DEC 0>0.5 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.1
G4 SFB-TYS NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.9

Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
J1 ALB-PIT JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7
J1 BDL-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>1.5 DEC 0>1.3
J1 IND-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>1.5 DEC 0>1.3
J1 MCI-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>1.5 DEC 0>1.3
J1 MKE-PIT JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7
J1 PIT-SDF JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7

J2 JFK-GYD FEB 0.3>0

LH DEN-FRA FEB 1.0>0.9
LH LAX-MUC FEB 1.0>0.9
LH SJC-FRA FEB 0.7>0.4

Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
P1 AVP-PIT JUL 1.4>0 AUG 1.5>0 SEP 1.3>0 OCT 1.5>0 NOV 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
P1 BKL-LUK JUL 1.4>0 AUG 1.5>0 SEP 1.3>0 OCT 1.2>0
P1 CLT-LUK JUL 0.7>0.2 AUG 0.7>0.1 SEP 0.6>0.1 OCT 0.7>0.2 NOV 0.7>0.1 DEC 0.5>0.1 JAN 0.7>0.1 FEB 0.7>0.1
P1 DFW-VCT JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.9>0 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0
P1 LUK-MDW JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
P1 LUK-MMU JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
P1 LUK-PDK JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0

PR SFO-MNL DEC 1.0>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.3

SY DEN-MSP OCT 0.4>0.3
SY DFW-CUN AUG 1.6>1.4
SY MSP-CUN OCT 0.8>0.6

UA IAD-BUF AUG 4>3
UA IAD-CVG AUG 4>3
UA IAD-PVD NOV 3>4 DEC 3>4 JAN 3>4 FEB 3>4
UA IAD-SDF NOV 1.2>2
UA IAD-SYR DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 2>3
UA ORD-ABQ AUG 3>1.4
UA ORD-CAE NOV 1.9>1.0
UA ORD-CAK AUG 5>4
UA ORD-CID AUG 5>4
UA ORD-FAR AUG 4>3
UA ORD-JAN AUG 1.9>0.9

VB IAH-MTY FEB 0>0.6
VB LAS-MEX FEB 0>1.0
VB LAX-GDL FEB 0>1.0

Because LAS is higher yield?
*XE BUR-CCR JUL 0.9>3 AUG 0.9>3 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*XE BUR-LAS JUL 0.5>5 AUG 0.4>6
*XE BUR-OAK JUL 1.2>3 AUG 1.2>3 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 1.1>0 JAN 1.2>0 FEB 1.1>0
XE BUR-SJC JUL 0.6>0.2 AUG 0.6>0.1
*XE LAS-OAK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
*XE OAK-RNO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 2:18 pm

Thanks for the weekly update.


enilria wrote:
B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3


I didn't know this route was that light in the fall!

enilria wrote:
*DL BOS-AUA JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1


Looks like the summer experiment worked out. No reason not to have more than one carrier on this route.

enilria wrote:

PR SFO-MNL DEC 1.0>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.3


Do they take feed from AS or B6? Seems like they should stick to west coast of NA instead of the YVR-JFK flight from the loads.

enilria wrote:
UA IAD-PVD NOV 3>4 DEC 3>4 JAN 3>4 FEB 3>4


Nice uptick - they only ran 2 daily last year.
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2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 2:19 pm

*4O IAH-BJX JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0
4O JFK-CUN JUL 1.0>1.2 AUG 1.0>1.1
How long did that last?
**4O SAT-BJX JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0


Both of these launches will be post-poned because of aircraft delivery delays at Interjet. Looking to start in November instead of June this year. No official date yet.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 2:22 pm

enilria wrote:
Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
4P AVP-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P BKL-LUK JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.2
4P CLT-LUK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P DFW-VCT JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
4P LUK-MDW OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P LUK-MMU JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P LUK-PDK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7 FEB 0>0.7
4P MBL-MDW JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.7

Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
J1 ALB-PIT JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7
J1 BDL-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>1.5 DEC 0>1.3
J1 IND-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>1.5 DEC 0>1.3
J1 MCI-PIT JUL 0>1.4 AUG 0>1.5 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0>1.5 NOV 0>1.5 DEC 0>1.3
J1 MKE-PIT JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7
J1 PIT-SDF JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 OCT 0>0.7 NOV 0>0.7

Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
P1 AVP-PIT JUL 1.4>0 AUG 1.5>0 SEP 1.3>0 OCT 1.5>0 NOV 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
P1 BKL-LUK JUL 1.4>0 AUG 1.5>0 SEP 1.3>0 OCT 1.2>0
P1 CLT-LUK JUL 0.7>0.2 AUG 0.7>0.1 SEP 0.6>0.1 OCT 0.7>0.2 NOV 0.7>0.1 DEC 0.5>0.1 JAN 0.7>0.1 FEB 0.7>0.1
P1 DFW-VCT JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.9>0 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0
P1 LUK-MDW JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
P1 LUK-MMU JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0
P1 LUK-PDK JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 OCT 0.7>0 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.7>0

It looks like more shuffling ahead of what I will presume will be the announcement this week (if they stick with what they said in early May).

Operated by UE:
LUK-BKL/MMU/CLT/PDK/MDW
PIT-IND/BDL
BUF-ALB (one frequency with UE ERJ-135)

Operated by CFM:
BUF-ALB (one frequency with J1 ERJ-135)
PIT-PBI/BUF/MCI/MKE/IND/SDF/PVD/BDL

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Ultimate Air Shuttle Brand:
LUK-BKL/MMU/CLT/PDK/MDW

OneJet Brand:
PIT-PBI/BUF/MCI/MKE/IND/SDF/PVD/BDL
BUF-ALB
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 2:47 pm

Legend757 wrote:
*4O IAH-BJX JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0
4O JFK-CUN JUL 1.0>1.2 AUG 1.0>1.1
How long did that last?
**4O SAT-BJX JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0


Both of these launches will be post-poned because of aircraft delivery delays at Interjet. Looking to start in November instead of June this year. No official date yet.


= Is that because of their challenges paying for aircraft?

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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 2:51 pm

enilria wrote:
*DL BOS-AUA JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1

So is this route going year-round from BOS?
Good that someone is finally competing with B6 on the route.
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 3:05 pm

enilria wrote:

AA JFK-BDA DEC 1.4>1.0 JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.5>1.0
*AA LAX-MBJ NOV 0.1>0 DEC 0.3>0 JAN 0.2>0 FEB 0.1>0


*DL JFK-ANU JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1

Not surprised at AA dropping LAX-MBJ or the cuts on JFK-BDA.

Semi-surprised at DL returning on JFK-ANU. They've run it before but were always the smallest player in the NYC-ANU market. That's now four carriers on NYC-ANU (AA, B6, DL, UA). SXM is the only other Eastern Caribbean market that has that many carriers out of NYC.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Sun May 27, 2018 3:27 pm

NickolayAv wrote:
enilria wrote:
*DL BOS-AUA JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1

So is this route going year-round from BOS?
Good that someone is finally competing with B6 on the route.


I think we will have to wait and see but it does actually resume on 12/22/18 so there are two weeklies in December and it is bookable through the window Delta has released so far (the usual 11 months out). The question is will they run the flight Sept-November 2019? Though a storm isn't impossible AUA is outside the hurricane belt so its an option for September and October travel.
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 3:29 pm

Delta dropping down to 3 flights DTW-TPA seems surprising given that this is at least 5 or 6 flights a day most times of the year.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 3:50 pm

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Delta dropping down to 3 flights DTW-TPA seems surprising given that this is at least 5 or 6 flights a day most times of the year.


It's just for the month -- a normal frequency reduction that can be offset by gauge. September and October are the pits for Florida. DL's been on a consistent growth trajectory in the TPA market with the return of SLC, the addition of up to 3x mainline to BOS, and now mainline on one of the two RDU turns.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 4:04 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
enilria wrote:

PR SFO-MNL DEC 1.0>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.3


Do they take feed from AS or B6? Seems like they should stick to west coast of NA instead of the YVR-JFK flight from the loads.



PR is dropping the 4x YVR-JFK flight and replacing it with MNL-JFK nonstop In October. Seattle is reportedly in the pipeline too.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 4:10 pm

B6-BOS-CLT to 3 daily..... much needed! Glad to see it!
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Sun May 27, 2018 4:17 pm

enilria wrote:


G4 FLL-USA DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7


G4 PIE-USA NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8



What airport is USA?
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Sun May 27, 2018 4:26 pm

727LOVER wrote:
enilria wrote:


G4 FLL-USA DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7


G4 PIE-USA NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8


What airport is USA?

Concord Regional Airport
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 4:29 pm

Sad to see our link to Jamaica get cut, and so soon after we lost our link to HAV.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 4:39 pm

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Thanks for the weekly update.

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adamh8297 wrote:
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B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3

I didn't know this route was that light in the fall!

Agreed. Didn't they used to fly this more?
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Both of these launches will be post-poned because of aircraft delivery delays at Interjet. Looking to start in November instead of June this year. No official date yet.

They pushed the start far beyond November in the schedule. Not a lot of confidence.
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It looks like more shuffling ahead of what I will presume will be the announcement this week (if they stick with what they said in early May).

Have they said why it's better not to have 1 brand?
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Concord Regional Airport

Used to just be NASCAR charter airport.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:06 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
Thanks for the weekly update.


enilria wrote:
B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3


It’s been 1.9 for the last 6 years. Except for the summers have been at 2.

We haven’t seen more that 4 flights a day from JetBlue since they ended the 6am CLT-JFK back in December of 2012 if I recall correctly.
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:10 pm

enilria wrote:
FAQ
Because LAS is higher yield?
*XE BUR-CCR JUL 0.9>3 AUG 0.9>3 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*XE BUR-LAS JUL 0.5>5 AUG 0.4>6
*XE BUR-OAK JUL 1.2>3 AUG 1.2>3 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 1.1>0 JAN 1.2>0 FEB 1.1>0
XE BUR-SJC JUL 0.6>0.2 AUG 0.6>0.1
*XE LAS-OAK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
*XE OAK-RNO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9


From LA? Yeah, LAS is high yield. Nobody wants to drive it. It's miserable. I routinely pay $200-275 to fly LAXLAS. I've never once driven it.
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:26 pm

enilria wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
It looks like more shuffling ahead of what I will presume will be the announcement this week (if they stick with what they said in early May).

Have they said why it's better not to have 1 brand?

The problem is besides aircraft operated, the brands are completely different.

UE competes on route that already have service by offering better service. This includes faster flight times by using secondary airports, the ability to arrive 15 min before departure, no security checkpoints, no baggage fees, free parking/city shuttles, free lounges, and free in-flight light meals. As a result, their flights are sold at a premium price.

J1 operates routes with no competition. They use major airports, which requires passengers to go through security, pay for parking, go through baggage check, etc. Plus, they don't offer as many premium on-board services. As a result, their prices tend to be fairly cheap.

J1 needs Ultimate in order to operate their flights and improve reliability. Often times UE's flights leave ahead of schedule, in comparison to J1, whose flights are very often delayed and/or cancelled. I don't think merging the brands is going to happen soon because you would need to cannibalize one of the airlines ops. The flights at LUK would not work under J1's model and the ops at PIT can't legally work under UE's model.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:27 pm

enilria wrote:
Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
4P DFW-VCT JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
4P MBL-MDW JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.7


DFW-VCT??? Seems like an odd one.

MBL-MDW? Chicago seasonal service? Seems like the wrong end of town for the summer house crowd.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:41 pm

enilria wrote:
Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?


Less than what everyone thinks. It appears that Public Charters IATA code changes from P1 to 4P on June 1. Ultimate Air Shuttle branded flights are sold using Publiccharters.com code. So are Northern Country Sky branded flights (MBL), Texas Sky branded flights (VCT), and Regional Sky branded flights (AVP-PIT). It appears that when the 4P flights were loaded for June 1 and beyond, the P1 flights were deleted for all time (i.e. before June 1 and beyond).

J1 is not really involved except that some of its flights will be operated by Ultimate Air Charters in June. J1 flights are not sold through Public Charters, so the 4P code doesn't apply.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:46 pm

MO11 wrote:
enilria wrote:
Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?


Less than what everyone thinks. It appears that Public Charters IATA code changes from P1 to 4P on June 1. Ultimate Air Shuttle branded flights are sold using Publiccharters.com code. So are Northern Country Sky branded flights (MBL), Texas Sky branded flights (VCT), and Regional Sky branded flights (AVP-PIT). It appears that when the 4P flights were loaded for June 1 and beyond, the P1 flights were deleted for all time (i.e. before June 1 and beyond).

J1 is not really involved except that some of its flights will be operated by Ultimate Air Charters in June. J1 flights are not sold through Public Charters, so the 4P code doesn't apply.

However, the Ultimate brand flights actually operate with the UE/UJC codes, not with the public charters code. They were showing up as UE for a little bit of time last year, not really sure why they continue to file the routes under public charters. Looking at their website, there is not even a way to book the Ultimate flights through public charters.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 5:53 pm

Thanks as always, enilria...

MO11 wrote:
enilria wrote:
Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?


Less than what everyone thinks. It appears that Public Charters IATA code changes from P1 to 4P on June 1. Ultimate Air Shuttle branded flights are sold using Publiccharters.com code. So are Northern Country Sky branded flights (MBL), Texas Sky branded flights (VCT), and Regional Sky branded flights (AVP-PIT). It appears that when the 4P flights were loaded for June 1 and beyond, the P1 flights were deleted for all time (i.e. before June 1 and beyond).

J1 is not really involved except that some of its flights will be operated by Ultimate Air Charters in June. J1 flights are not sold through Public Charters, so the 4P code doesn't apply.


Yup. None of these flights are new. Just swapping the P1 code or 4P for the mix of airlines which piggyback on that code.

Victoria and Manistee are EAS routes already running for some time now.
Wilkes Barre-Pittsburgh is a newish unsubsidized service launched a few weeks back for business travelers.
The Cincinnati LUK flights are just an extension of the existing Ultimate schedule.

OneJet (J1) flights are exetending the schedule forward

CVGComair is definitely right that Ultimate will start operating PIT to Indy and Hartford in June, taking over from Contour. But that isn't reflected in these -- today it's OneJet J1 operated by Contour and starting 6/11 it will be OneJet J1 operate by Ultimate on those routes. J1 before and after.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 6:25 pm

cvgComair wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
enilria wrote:


G4 FLL-USA DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7


G4 PIE-USA NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8


What airport is USA?

Concord Regional Airport

Concord, NC is JQF.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 6:36 pm

JetBlueCLT wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
Thanks for the weekly update.


enilria wrote:
B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3


It’s been 1.9 for the last 6 years. Except for the summers have been at 2.

We haven’t seen more that 4 flights a day from JetBlue since they ended the 6am CLT-JFK back in December of 2012 if I recall correctly.


Yep, been 2 a day for a while for both BOS/JFK. They are actually doing really well on both routes. I'm assuming they won't increase JFK unless they get more slots. But there is no reason they can't increase BOS to 4 a day. Probably doing it slowly to not piss off AA. The next cities to up frequency from BOS are DTW, CLE and PHL.

MAH4546 wrote:
enilria wrote:
FAQ
Because LAS is higher yield?
*XE BUR-CCR JUL 0.9>3 AUG 0.9>3 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*XE BUR-LAS JUL 0.5>5 AUG 0.4>6
*XE BUR-OAK JUL 1.2>3 AUG 1.2>3 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 1.1>0 JAN 1.2>0 FEB 1.1>0
XE BUR-SJC JUL 0.6>0.2 AUG 0.6>0.1
*XE LAS-OAK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
*XE OAK-RNO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9


From LA? Yeah, LAS is high yield. Nobody wants to drive it. It's miserable. I routinely pay $200-275 to fly LAXLAS. I've never once driven it.

I think there is a chance because they are a public charter, OAG doesn't handle that very well. I went to their website and the schedules haven't really changed. OAK-LAS/RNO was upped to current frequency level a couple of weeks ago.

AA JFK-BDA DEC 1.4>1.0 JAN 1.2>1.0 FEB 1.5>1.0

at this rate, AA will probably cancel BDA in a year.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 6:54 pm

I see DL attempting to see what Caribbean markets will work from JFK, B6 just has such a loyal following for many many years now. ANU service 1-2 times a month is really nothing, but it might hint at some success. All I ever see is AA cutting in JFK it seems.

The B6 add for CLT is solid, strengthening a competitive market, good sign.

Regarding DL cutting TPA nonstop from DTW down to 3. Even though that is the least demand time for Florida, there are still multi millions of residents here, it's not always tourism. Those flights are always packed and DL cuts RSW/TPA/FLL/MIA during summer into fall forcing fares up and connections over ATL.
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Sun May 27, 2018 7:10 pm

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B6-BOS-CLT to 3 daily..... much needed! Glad to see it!

I wonder if this is somehow tied to the opening of the new concourse this summer.

WN will be announcing their new schedule release within the next week, so it’ll be interesting if they uptick a few frequencies at CLT as well. I think B6 and WN both have one dedicated gate at CLT but from my understanding all gates in the new concourse will be CUTE.
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Sun May 27, 2018 7:13 pm

Is Azerbaijan discontinuing JFK service altogether, or just for February 2019?
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 7:18 pm

NWADTWE16 wrote:
I see DL attempting to see what Caribbean markets will work from JFK, B6 just has such a loyal following for many many years now. ANU service 1-2 times a month is really nothing, but it might hint at some success. All I ever see is AA cutting in JFK it seems.

The B6 add for CLT is solid, strengthening a competitive market, good sign.

Regarding DL cutting TPA nonstop from DTW down to 3. Even though that is the least demand time for Florida, there are still multi millions of residents here, it's not always tourism. Those flights are always packed and DL cuts RSW/TPA/FLL/MIA during summer into fall forcing fares up and connections over ATL.

totally agreed, seeing some actions from DL recently on adding to some Caribbean markets like KIN and now intro to ANU. Realistically, B6 get much higher margins than DL in all of these routes due to the lower cost. But with AA continuing to cut back, there is probably room for some more DL adds given that B6 is running out of slots at hours people want to actually fly.

It's kind of a puzzle to me B6 has taken this long to add to CLT given how well they are doing there.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 7:50 pm

NWADTWE16 wrote:
I see DL attempting to see what Caribbean markets will work from JFK, B6 just has such a loyal following for many many years now.


Many, many years? You must be working with the time scale of a youngster. For learning and fun, build a timeline of when B6 started service from JFK to its Caribbean destinations. :)
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 8:07 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
What airport is USA?

Concord Regional Airport

Concord, NC is JQF.


FAA code JQF. IATA code USA.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 8:10 pm

DL DTW-TPA OCT 4>3

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Sun May 27, 2018 8:11 pm

NWADTWE16 wrote:
I see DL attempting to see what Caribbean markets will work from JFK, B6 just has such a loyal following for many many years now. ANU service 1-2 times a month is really nothing, but it might hint at some success. All I ever see is AA cutting in JFK it seems.


With regard to Antigua at least, B6 has only been serving ANU since 2015. And year end numbers for 2016 (the most recent full year numbers I have), B6 carried the least passengers on ANU-NYC of the three carriers serving the market nonstop. AA carried 70K, UA 47K, B6 38K.
 
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Sun May 27, 2018 8:18 pm

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JetBlueCLT wrote:
B6-BOS-CLT to 3 daily..... much needed! Glad to see it!

I wonder if this is somehow tied to the opening of the new concourse this summer.

WN will be announcing their new schedule release within the next week, so it’ll be interesting if they uptick a few frequencies at CLT as well. I think B6 and WN both have one dedicated gate at CLT but from my understanding all gates in the new concourse will be CUTE.


Indeed. B6 has A4 dedicated to themselves and WN is on A6 but RONs on A4 because B6 first plane doesn’t get in until 9am. I read 2 of the 9 gates will be CUTE. Again, that could be wrong. So please don’t quote me on that. I also read that WN was picking up another gate.

UA 4 B6 1, F9 1 WN 1 dedicated gate. Then WN will be getting access to 1 of the CUTE gates and Via Air will have the last one. I hope Via stays on the current Acon.
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Mon May 28, 2018 1:22 am

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adamh8297 wrote:
Thanks for the weekly update.


enilria wrote:
B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3


It’s been 1.9 for the last 6 years. Except for the summers have been at 2.

We haven’t seen more that 4 flights a day from JetBlue since they ended the 6am CLT-JFK back in December of 2012 if I recall correctly.

Thanks. Not sure what is in my head then.
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FAQ
Because LAS is higher yield?
*XE BUR-CCR JUL 0.9>3 AUG 0.9>3 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*XE BUR-LAS JUL 0.5>5 AUG 0.4>6
*XE BUR-OAK JUL 1.2>3 AUG 1.2>3 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 1.1>0 JAN 1.2>0 FEB 1.1>0
XE BUR-SJC JUL 0.6>0.2 AUG 0.6>0.1
*XE LAS-OAK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
*XE OAK-RNO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9


From LA? Yeah, LAS is high yield. Nobody wants to drive it. It's miserable. I routinely pay $200-275 to fly LAXLAS. I've never once driven it.

Even $130 each way is not that great for a 50 seat jet.
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enilria wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
It looks like more shuffling ahead of what I will presume will be the announcement this week (if they stick with what they said in early May).

Have they said why it's better not to have 1 brand?

The problem is besides aircraft operated, the brands are completely different.

UE competes on route that already have service by offering better service. This includes faster flight times by using secondary airports, the ability to arrive 15 min before departure, no security checkpoints, no baggage fees, free parking/city shuttles, free lounges, and free in-flight light meals. As a result, their flights are sold at a premium price.

J1 operates routes with no competition. They use major airports, which requires passengers to go through security, pay for parking, go through baggage check, etc. Plus, they don't offer as many premium on-board services. As a result, their prices tend to be fairly cheap.

J1 needs Ultimate in order to operate their flights and improve reliability. Often times UE's flights leave ahead of schedule, in comparison to J1, whose flights are very often delayed and/or cancelled. I don't think merging the brands is going to happen soon because you would need to cannibalize one of the airlines ops. The flights at LUK would not work under J1's model and the ops at PIT can't legally work under UE's model.

Interesting. P1 is a "for-hire brand" isn't it?
MO11 wrote:
It appears that Public Charters IATA code changes from P1 to 4P on June 1. Ultimate Air Shuttle branded flights are sold using Publiccharters.com code.

OK, that's the "for hire" brand. Why are they changing?
aemoreira1981 wrote:
Is Azerbaijan discontinuing JFK service altogether, or just for February 2019?
aemoreira1981 wrote:
Is Azerbaijan discontinuing JFK service altogether, or just for February 2019?

So, they show as operating in January and March and then gone in April. Nothing filed after that, although that is the end of the 330 day window anyway. Not clear if it is an error or they are gone. It would be unusual for an intl carrier to announce leaving a market that far in advance, so I suspect they are not leaving.
 
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Mon May 28, 2018 1:40 am

enilria wrote:

Because LAS is higher yield?
*XE BUR-CCR JUL 0.9>3 AUG 0.9>3 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*XE BUR-LAS JUL 0.5>5 AUG 0.4>6
*XE BUR-OAK JUL 1.2>3 AUG 1.2>3 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 1.1>0 JAN 1.2>0 FEB 1.1>0
XE BUR-SJC JUL 0.6>0.2 AUG 0.6>0.1
*XE LAS-OAK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
*XE OAK-RNO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9


Does this imply that XE is terminating service at CCR?
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 1:43 am

enilria wrote:
MO11 wrote:
It appears that Public Charters IATA code changes from P1 to 4P on June 1. Ultimate Air Shuttle branded flights are sold using Publiccharters.com code.

OK, that's the "for hire" brand. Why are they changing?

They just received their part 135 certificate (I think so that they can operate the PIT-AVP flight), so they are chaining their name to "Public Charters, Inc. dba Regional Sky" and their IATA code is being switched to 4P.
 
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Mon May 28, 2018 2:10 am

One summer B6 tried 5x BOS-CLT. It was amazing frequency and the 6am CLT-BOS was well received- I was in it frequently and it was one of the better performing. Once summer was over it was down to two and no one at the station knew why it wasn't at least 3x. I think part of the problem was B6 was half the size they are now in Boston. They could easily do 4x and steal more guests from AA.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 2:36 am

Boof02671 wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
What airport is USA?

Concord Regional Airport

Concord, NC is JQF.



IATA is USA
ICAO is KJQF

Same with Phoenix-Mesa Gateway

IATA is AZA
ICAO is KIWA
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 3:04 am

tphuang wrote:
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Yep, been 2 a day for a while for both BOS/JFK. They are actually doing really well on both routes. I'm assuming they won't increase JFK unless they get more slots. But there is no reason they can't increase BOS to 4 a day. Probably doing it slowly to not piss off AA. The next cities to up frequency from BOS are DTW, CLE and PHL.

PHL-BOS is already 12 x AA and 6 x B6. That's 18 Daily Weekday flights.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 3:06 am

And Yuma, AZ,

IATA is YUM
ICAO is KNYL
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 3:32 am

adamh8297 wrote:
Thanks for the weekly update.


enilria wrote:
B6 BOS-CLT OCT 1.9>3 NOV 1.8>3


I didn't know this route was that light in the fall!

enilria wrote:
*DL BOS-AUA JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1


Looks like the summer experiment worked out. No reason not to have more than one carrier on this route.

enilria wrote:

PR SFO-MNL DEC 1.0>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.3


Do they take feed from AS or B6? Seems like they should stick to west coast of NA instead of the YVR-JFK flight from the loads.

enilria wrote:
UA IAD-PVD NOV 3>4 DEC 3>4 JAN 3>4 FEB 3>4


Nice uptick - they only ran 2 daily last year.

Thanks Enilria!
CLT-BOS has been no more than 2x for the entirety of my ticket-buying time. JFK has had a similarly terrible schedule For a long time. This is the first time B6 has increased a frequency to Charlotte in YEARS
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 3:39 am

masseybrown wrote:
enilria wrote:
Flights shifted between J1, P1, and 4P. Anybody want to dive in that story?
4P DFW-VCT JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
4P MBL-MDW JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.7


DFW-VCT??? Seems like an odd one.

MBL-MDW? Chicago seasonal service? Seems like the wrong end of town for the summer house crowd.

MBL-MDW operates year round. This flight has been operating for a few years. As Enilria says this has to do with the code changes. The code before this was P1. Flights are operated by CFM as North Country Sky.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Mon May 28, 2018 4:37 am

MAH4546 wrote:
enilria wrote:
FAQ
Because LAS is higher yield?
*XE BUR-CCR JUL 0.9>3 AUG 0.9>3 SEP 0.8>0 OCT 0.9>0 NOV 0.9>0 DEC 0.8>0 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0
*XE BUR-LAS JUL 0.5>5 AUG 0.4>6
*XE BUR-OAK JUL 1.2>3 AUG 1.2>3 SEP 1.1>0 OCT 1.2>0 NOV 1.1>0 DEC 1.1>0 JAN 1.2>0 FEB 1.1>0
XE BUR-SJC JUL 0.6>0.2 AUG 0.6>0.1
*XE LAS-OAK JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7
*XE OAK-RNO JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9


From LA? Yeah, LAS is high yield. Nobody wants to drive it. It's miserable. I routinely pay $200-275 to fly LAXLAS. I've never once driven it.


That's because we cannot get our act together in this country anymore. This is an ideal route for a bullet train, but I question whether we will ever see something like that here, because of the billions of dollars it will cost, when it shouldn't.
 
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Wed May 30, 2018 12:58 am

enilria wrote:
G4 ABE-SFB NOV 0.2>1.1 DEC 0>1.1 JAN 0>1.0
G4 AVL-FLL NOV 0.2>1.1 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>0.8
G4 AVL-SFB DEC 0>0.7
G4 AZA-BIS JAN 0>0.8
G4 AZA-FAR JAN 0>0.9
G4 AZA-FSD JAN 0>0.9
G4 AZA-PVU NOV 0.3>1.2 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>0.9
G4 BLI-LAS NOV 0.5>1.9 DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.6 FEB 0>0.7
G4 CVG-FLL NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 CVG-PGD NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.9
G4 CVG-PIE NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.8
G4 CVG-SFB NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 CVG-SJU JAN 0>0.1
G4 DSM-LAS DEC 0>0.7
G4 FAT-LAS NOV 0.3>1.6 DEC 0>1.5 JAN 0>1.4
G4 FLL-TYS NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 FLL-USA DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7
G4 FNT-PIE DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 FNT-SFB NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 GRR-SFB NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.7
G4 IND-PGD DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.8
G4 IND-PIE DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>0.7
G4 LAS-MFE DEC 0>0.7
G4 LAS-OAK NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.8
G4 LAS-RNO NOV 0.2>0.9 DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.8
G4 LAS-SCK NOV 0.3>1.6 DEC 0>1.5 JAN 0>1.4
G4 LEX-SFB DEC 0>0.7
G4 MDT-SFB DEC 0>0.7 JAN 0>0.7
G4 PIE-TYS NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8
G4 PIE-USA NOV 0.1>0.8 DEC 0>0.8
G4 PIT-SJU JAN 0>0.1
G4 RDU-SJU DEC 0>0.2 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.1
G4 SFB-SJU NOV 0.1>0.3 DEC 0>0.5 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.1
G4 SFB-TYS NOV 0.2>1.0 DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>0.9


First time I've ever seen increases for G4 on here. Schedule extension? They usually seem to be cutting continuously.
PIT/CVG-SJU returning seems like big news.

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Re: OAG Changes 5/27/2018:AA Drops LAX-MBJ;XE Changes Cali Network;P1/J1/4P Swaps;4O Drops SAT/IAH-BJX

Thu May 31, 2018 2:56 am

Brickell305 wrote:

Semi-surprised at DL returning on JFK-ANU. They've run it before but were always the smallest player in the NYC-ANU market. That's now four carriers on NYC-ANU (AA, B6, DL, UA). SXM is the only other Eastern Caribbean market that has that many carriers out of NYC.



UA has scaled back its EWR ANU. DL seems to be increasing its foot print into the Caribbean. This winter there will be B6, BW, DL and OJ on the JFK KIN. I don't think that route has ever seen so many carriers.

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