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Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:17 am

An airplane full of tourists was forced to divert after a passenger's foul-smelling body odour reportedly caused those around him to vomit and faint.

The Transavia Boeing 737 took off from Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands for Gran Canaria, but instead it touched down in Faro, Portugal.

At one point, flight crew reportedly tried to quarantine the 'unwashed' man in a toilet before the pilots decided to divert the flight.
A plane full of tourists on a Transavia flight had to make an emergency landing after a passenger's foul-smelling body odour caused other holidaymakers to vomit and faint

Due to the incident, the plane landed in Faro, in the Algarve region of southern Portugal, so the man could be removed.

The rest is here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ivert.html
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:43 am

It's a tough situation. Had it on a flight once. Nothing you can do. I'm not prepared to end up in the Daily Mail because someone's a little stinky.

A few offended noses for a few hours with a few keyboard warriors frantically tapping away at our social media department vs. having our brand name, which we all work hard to be a success, being dragged through the news rags? No thanks. Crack open a bottle of the overpriced perfumes that we have a whole trolley stuffed full of and report it on the paperwork. What this option tried? If not, why not?

You've also put the aircraft through another sector. You've increased the risk to the flight by going through another takeoff and landing which are high workload parts of the flight. You've increased the risk of fatigue (assuming it was a there and back) landing back into AMS at the end of the day. You've cost thousands.

Yes any decision must be safe. It must be legal. But where was the commercial side to the decisions? You've put up with the stench as far as Faro so why not just continue for the other hour or so the canaries? This is just weeks after the Transavia farting incident.

What happens on the night beach flights when everyone's been thrown out of their hotel at 1100 local and have been wandering around in the hot sun for hours waiting for their 0100 local departures having been out late the night before making the most of their last night on holiday before returning to the everyday grind? It gets a little whiffy. You deal with it.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:31 pm

sevenair wrote:
It gets a little whiffy. You deal with it.


But in this case, the article says multiple passengers were throwing up because of it! YIKES

Sometimes, you can't just deal with it. I've had some smelly pax near me and it was pretty rank, so in this instance, I can't even fathom. Moreover, how someone can just ignore their personal hygeine to that degree is hard to figure.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:41 pm

slider wrote:
sevenair wrote:
It gets a little whiffy. You deal with it.


But in this case, the article says multiple passengers were throwing up because of it! YIKES

Sometimes, you can't just deal with it. I've had some smelly pax near me and it was pretty rank, so in this instance, I can't even fathom. Moreover, how someone can just ignore their personal hygeine to that degree is hard to figure.


You really should wait until you hear the full story......it sounds more like this person would have been suffering from some ailment that caused such a stink.....personal hygiene alone probably wouldn't result in such a drastic odor.....
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:55 pm

If you are so ill that you are causing a stench that is leading to vomiting and fainting to those around you, I would suggest that you probably are in no shape to travel, let alone by air. Living in HK, and I'm sure any hot city, I come across people from time-to-time to whom their own stink appears to be a non-issue. This could be on a train, in a taxi, elevator, etc... But the worst was when I was living in NY, the homeless people on the subway, oh my lord the smell was terrible and I have seen train cars clear out at the next stop when someone came on once.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:04 pm

If people are vomiting and fainting, then it becomes a safety and hazard risk. The crew did the right decision in diverting the flight, period.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:06 pm

It really takes a lot for me to gag from odor but I did one time have to continually swallow and choke down my vomit from a passengers foot odor while in security screening line at TBIT in LAX.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:14 pm

Didnt the FAs notice anything when the smelly person entered the plane?

I experienced unbearably smelly passengers twice.
Once on a flight from Ireland to Germany a man sat across the isle which I think was perhaps an Irish sheep farmer who must have come right out of his stables without bothering about the world around him.
The second time I didnt encouter the smelly person myself, but a flight from Turkey had to be desinfected thoroughly and was delayed for a considerable time because a turkish man stank so much, the FA told me when we could finally go aboard.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:22 pm

While this has never happened to me on a flight, it did occur once when on a bus tour in Florida. This one family all smelled so incredibly bad the company sent a second bus to pick everyone else up but them, and I guess they all got their private tour. I agree with some previous statements. If you want to be gross, stay home or charter your own plane so that no one has to suffer because of it.

I am, however, impressed that it got to the point of pax vomiting. That must have been a *really* bad smell.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:24 pm

I have not read the full article, however, there was a time when I had a physical condition that caused me to have severe body odor in addition, I had really bad breath. As a result, I always wore some really strong cologne and constantly had a breath mint in my mouth. Thankfully, the condition has passed and is not an issue anymore. So, I can understand if the guy had a physical ailment that caused the body odor. At the same time, one can use products to mitigate the problem and at least make it more bearable to those around him.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:27 pm

Gr8Circle wrote:
slider wrote:
sevenair wrote:


You really should wait until you hear the full story......it sounds more like this person would have been suffering from some ailment that caused such a stink.....personal hygiene alone probably wouldn't result in such a drastic odor.....


Well then, there certainly are lots and lots of traveling passengers in "certain" parts of the world with this same "mysterious" ailment.

I personally have almost vomited in the past after walking by similar passengers (or similar passengers walking by me).

The ultimate combo is to then go to lav only to find shoe prints on the toilet seat and some bad aim which results in feces on the toilet seat as well.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:06 pm

na wrote:
Didnt the FAs notice anything when the smelly person entered the plane?

I experienced unbearably smelly passengers twice.
Once on a flight from Ireland to Germany a man sat across the isle which I think was perhaps an Irish sheep farmer who must have come right out of his stables without bothering about the world around him.
The second time I didnt encouter the smelly person myself, but a flight from Turkey had to be desinfected thoroughly and was delayed for a considerable time because a turkish man stank so much, the FA told me when we could finally go aboard.

Wow, that must have been a real stinker!! I mean, Ireland isn't THAT small an isle... ;)
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:43 pm

If the person smelled so bad, how did they make it on the plane? Did no one notice and complain about it in the terminal? What about after boarding and before the plane pushed back? Maybe something chemically changed during the flight and the smell got worse. Or maybe some passengers were being overly dramatic for attention. Even the smell of a skunk doesn't make you pass out. The smell is completely disgusting but that is about it. Just seems like someone was seeking attention.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:59 pm

That smelly smell...
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:59 pm

I've experienced this once too, and I was a flight attendant working the flight - it was a regional jet and I was the only FA onboard. The stench was putrid and borderline nauseating and unbearable, and it smelt very very African-tribal, so I don't think it was from someone not having bathed, or having soiled themselves, but what do I know? I kept hoping at least one passenger would complain so then I could address the situation. But since no one spoke up, it would be very difficult for me take on the situation and address it on my own. It could be construed that I, as a flight attendant, was insensitive to different cultures and that is certainly not a trait an airline looks for in their FAs. So I bore with it for the hour and a half flight, while discreetly spraying air freshener in the cabin every five to ten minutes.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:00 pm

I'll add my 2 cts. There is a subtle and not so subtle way to handle these things. I was on a ZRH-JFK flight (not a short hop) and there was a passenger in the row in front of me who had a very strong and unbearable body odor (for whatever reason). The odor was actually nauseating and I can understand how some people could be choking from the scent. Someone quietly notified the FAs who then, again quietly, asked if passengers in the area wanted to move to other open seats throughout the aircraft. While this was likely not severe enough to warrant an emergency landing, the FAs handled this well to accommodate other passengers and not embarrass the malodorous passenger...no media coverage, no emergency.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:14 pm

Indy wrote:
If the person smelled so bad, how did they make it on the plane? Did no one notice and complain about it in the terminal?


Political correctness? Many people are afraid to deal with such sensitive issues out of fear of getting sued or whatever. Let somebody else deal with the problem. I thought this pax could have been a coworker of mine after reading the title. The most feral smelling human by far. Management too scared to deal with him because he is very agressive and the type that could sue. Been smelling for over a decade. If you officially complain to management about this guy they shake their head at you and think you are a trouble maker. This guy once told off a coworker for wearing cologne and said real men smell natural. This guy smells do bad, after he leaves an area the smell stays behind for a minimum of 20 mins, sometimes 2 hours if it's a room. So yeah, some people do smell this bad and either know or don't know about it and then there are those who are too scared to address the issue and let the problem end up somewhere else. Sad situation.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:38 pm

I once walked up to the line at "Passport Control" at... I don't remember which Bangkok airport, and the smell coming from the two men standing in front of me was so bad I almost involuntary threw up at first whiff. The worst odor from a human being I've had the misfortune to encounter.
I backed up a good 20 feet and stood there while they worked their way up to the counter. Every now and then someone in the line behind me would walk up to cut in front of me, but as they reached a foot or so passed me, the smell hit them and they turned around and went back to their place in line. Apparently, from what I've been told, this is not uncommon for some people in some parts of the world.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:58 pm

About 15 years ago the school where I taught at had a substitute teacher who smelled so foul that students were leaving the room in disgust. Some students went to the principal and complained and he came down and took a wiff. The principal and assistant escorted her out of the builder. She claimed it was against her religion to bathe and she was going to sue the school. To my knowledge she never sued us and she was taken off the sub list. I never got close enough to smell her, but I did see her in the parking lot out the window. She looked a bit rough. You could still smell a bit of the stink in the classroom the next morning, but it dissipated by the afternoon.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:04 pm

ordell wrote:
The Transavia Boeing 737 took off from Schiphol Airport in the Netherlands for Gran Canaria, but instead it touched down in Faro, Portugal.


According to Luchtvaartnieuws it was the other way around, it was a flight from Gran Canaria to Amsterdam.

https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... -passagier

In this case the landing in Faro makes sense since Faro is the first airport on the mainland after you left the Canary islands.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:16 pm

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/2106420 ... -passagier
Only in Dutch unfortunately.

The flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam. Passengers climbed over seats to get away from the Russian passenger who apparently had his pants full with excrements. Passengers are angry at Transavia that the flight took off in the first place.

The smell was described as worse than a dead body after one month of decomposition.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:30 pm

The man and his wife, who also was escorted off the aircraft in Faro, had plans to fly to Moscow via Schiphol.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:54 pm

As mentioned the flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam
The Russian couple where drunk and the man peed and pooped in his pants before takeoff.
The crew refused to return to the gate and asked the wife to clean him up in the toilet which she tried.
Due to the smell several other passengers had to throw up which forced the crew to make a landing in Faro.
The passenger (rightly so) became angry at Transavia that they allowed the couple to board in the first place and refused to return back to the gate after it became clear of the man conditions.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:55 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/2106420/toestel-transavia-maakt-tussenlanding-om-stinkende-passagier
Only in Dutch unfortunately.

The flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam. Passengers climbed over seats to get away from the Russian passenger who apparently had his pants full with excrements. Passengers are angry at Transavia that the flight took off in the first place.

The smell was described as worse than a dead body after one month of decomposition.


I am sure that is quite the hyperbole.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:13 pm

thaiflyer wrote:
As mentioned the flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam
The Russian couple where drunk and the man peed and pooped in his pants before takeoff.
The crew refused to return to the gate and asked the wife to clean him up in the toilet which she tried.
Due to the smell several other passengers had to throw up which forced the crew to make a landing in Faro.
The passenger (rightly so) became angry at Transavia that they allowed the couple to board in the first place and refused to return back to the gate after it became clear of the man conditions.


That's some serious misjudgment by the crew. If you're so drunk you're defecating on yourself (even the night before) you're not fit to fly. Secondly having feces all over the place in a confined area is asking for an outbreak of vomiting or disease at the worst.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:17 pm

thaiflyer wrote:
As mentioned the flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam
The Russian couple where drunk and the man peed and pooped in his pants before takeoff.


I can't find that in the original article, are you sure? If so, scratch the febreze idea.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:37 pm

Jesus Mary and Joseph....this is quite a story; almost an extract of a morbid novela. I don't know why, besides the obvious fact that this is actually something bad and I would not want to be in such a situation, reading about this and reading all the comments, has me laughing out loud (in a good way).
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:38 pm

kjeld0d wrote:
thaiflyer wrote:
As mentioned the flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam
The Russian couple where drunk and the man peed and pooped in his pants before takeoff.


I can't find that in the original article, are you sure? If so, scratch the febreze idea.


The peeing and pooping was confirmed and according the other passengers the couple where clearly drunk,.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:51 pm

kjeld0d wrote:
I can't find that in the original article, are you sure? (...)

The Daily Mail article is of course not the original article. Earlier reports in Dutch media confirm it.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:54 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/2106420/toestel-transavia-maakt-tussenlanding-om-stinkende-passagier
Only in Dutch unfortunately.

The flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam. Passengers climbed over seats to get away from the Russian passenger who apparently had his pants full with excrements. Passengers are angry at Transavia that the flight took off in the first place.

The smell was described as worse than a dead body after one month of decomposition.



I wonder what his blood alcohol level was?
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:23 pm

thaiflyer wrote:
As mentioned the flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam
The Russian couple where drunk and the man peed and pooped in his pants before takeoff.
The crew refused to return to the gate and asked the wife to clean him up in the toilet which she tried.
Due to the smell several other passengers had to throw up which forced the crew to make a landing in Faro.
The passenger (rightly so) became angry at Transavia that they allowed the couple to board in the first place and refused to return back to the gate after it became clear of the man conditions.


Transavia should receive a heavy fine for the actions of their air crew by not removing the passenger before takeoff.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:52 pm

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She claimed it was against her religion to bathe


There is no such prohibition in a religion and despite popular belief it is not against a certain religion's rules to not wear deodorant. There may be a prohibition on using scents (cologne/perfume) due to alcohol content but there are plenty of approved products that do not contain it. The issue is not just about physical hygiene but how often you wash your clothing and ventilate your house while cooking. You can shower 4 times a day but if you put on clothing that you wore multiple times without washing you still smell.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:07 pm

One has to admire the ability of the man's wife to tolerate such a foul odor. Or maybe she's just so used to it she's gone nose blind.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:21 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
thaiflyer wrote:
As mentioned the flight was from Las Palmas to Amsterdam
The Russian couple where drunk and the man peed and pooped in his pants before takeoff.
The crew refused to return to the gate and asked the wife to clean him up in the toilet which she tried.
Due to the smell several other passengers had to throw up which forced the crew to make a landing in Faro.
The passenger (rightly so) became angry at Transavia that they allowed the couple to board in the first place and refused to return back to the gate after it became clear of the man conditions.


Transavia should receive a heavy fine for the actions of their air crew by not removing the passenger before takeoff.


I would agree. At the airport, the police or security should have been notified. Back when I was a gate agent, I had several instances similar to this where a woman smelled so bad in the gate area that other passengers came to the podium to complain. I asked ehr if she could go clean up a little before the flight and she became agitated, so I simply called the airport police, and they told her she was not hygienically fit to travel on the flight and called the local health department on her behalf. In another instance, a woman had lice in her hair, and other passengers came forward to complain. It was handled very much the same way, other than the airport came into the gate area, and sanitized it.
 
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:25 pm

In 2009 I flew on Hawaiian Airlines from Maui to Honolulu; the man sitting in the aisle across from me was a hippie type who probably had not bathed in days. The man's body odor was extremely strong but the flight was a short one, only 30 minutes, so I didn't request a change of seats.
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:25 am

I'm not going to drop names but there was a certain flight from a certain country that had all its passengers smelling awful, it was real torture and even our uniforms would smell like the plague after that nasty flight. I'm glad it's in the past now.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:32 am

A few offended noses. You try sitting next to someone with human feces packed in their draws and see if you won’t vomit. Their


sevenair wrote:
It's a tough situation. Had it on a flight once. Nothing you can do. I'm not prepared to end up in the Daily Mail because someone's a little stinky.

A few offended noses for a few hours with a few keyboard warriors frantically tapping away at our social media department vs. having our brand name, which we all work hard to be a success, being dragged through the news rags? No thanks. Crack open a bottle of the overpriced perfumes that we have a whole trolley stuffed full of and report it on the paperwork. What this option tried? If not, why not?

You've also put the aircraft through another sector. You've increased the risk to the flight by going through another takeoff and landing which are high workload parts of the flight. You've increased the risk of fatigue (assuming it was a there and back) landing back into AMS at the end of the day. You've cost thousands.

Yes any decision must be safe. It must be legal. But where was the commercial side to the decisions? You've put up with the stench as far as Faro so why not just continue for the other hour or so the canaries? This is just weeks after the Transavia farting incident.

What happens on the night beach flights when everyone's been thrown out of their hotel at 1100 local and have been wandering around in the hot sun for hours waiting for their 0100 local departures having been out late the night before making the most of their last night on holiday before returning to the everyday grind? It gets a little whiffy. You deal with it.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:32 am

I once had to deal with an elderly gentleman who had intermittent dementia and was incontinent. He worn adult diapers but didn’t realize when he had “filled one up”.
The smell was unbearable. Perhaps this was a similar situation?
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:32 am

I once had to deal with an elderly gentleman who had intermittent dementia and was incontinent. He worn adult diapers but didn’t realize when he had “filled one up”.
The smell was unbearable. Perhaps this was a similar situation?
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:09 am

This was NOT an emergency landing

They keep calling diversions emergency landings

Emergency landings are done when aircraft are in big trouble

Landings are regular, diversions or precaurionary

Emergency landings are extremely rare

That girl that just landed on a street in LA
Thats an emergency landing
And not a smart one by the way, landing almost on top of people
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:31 am

Once experienced something like that from an Egyptian passenger he was absolutely rotten!
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:48 pm

sevenair wrote:
It's a tough situation. Had it on a flight once. Nothing you can do. I'm not prepared to end up in the Daily Mail because someone's a little stinky.

A few offended noses for a few hours with a few keyboard warriors frantically tapping away at our social media department vs. having our brand name, which we all work hard to be a success, being dragged through the news rags? No thanks. Crack open a bottle of the overpriced perfumes that we have a whole trolley stuffed full of and report it on the paperwork. What this option tried? If not, why not?

You've also put the aircraft through another sector. You've increased the risk to the flight by going through another takeoff and landing which are high workload parts of the flight. You've increased the risk of fatigue (assuming it was a there and back) landing back into AMS at the end of the day. You've cost thousands.

Yes any decision must be safe. It must be legal. But where was the commercial side to the decisions? You've put up with the stench as far as Faro so why not just continue for the other hour or so the canaries? This is just weeks after the Transavia farting incident.

What happens on the night beach flights when everyone's been thrown out of their hotel at 1100 local and have been wandering around in the hot sun for hours waiting for their 0100 local departures having been out late the night before making the most of their last night on holiday before returning to the everyday grind? It gets a little whiffy. You deal with it.


Are you serious,
You think that it is not a big deal when the smell is so unbearable that people had to be moved and where throwing up?
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:41 pm

Monty1988 wrote:
Once experienced something like that from an Egyptian passenger he was absolutely rotten!


Let me guess: He also trailed bandages?
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MartijnNL
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:44 pm

Amsterdam wrote:
This was NOT an emergency landing

They keep calling diversions emergency landings

Indeed. The topic title should be changed.

Amsterdam wrote:
That girl that just landed on a street in LA
Thats an emergency landing
And not a smart one by the way, landing almost on top of people

Almost. So you might say it was a very smart landing.

P.S. You forgot a few dots. Eight to be precisely. At the end of each sentence. :old:
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:05 am

MartijnNL wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
This was NOT an emergency landing

They keep calling diversions emergency landings

Indeed. The topic title should be changed.

Amsterdam wrote:
That girl that just landed on a street in LA
Thats an emergency landing
And not a smart one by the way, landing almost on top of people

Almost. So you might say it was a very smart landing.

P.S. You forgot a few dots. Eight to be precisely. At the end of each sentence. :old:


No
Lesson 1 of emergency landings is dont get people on the ground in danger
Its bad airmanship to kill people to save your own life
She was lucky she didnt kill some people
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:39 am

These passengers must have been booked on the codeshare flight number offered by SCAT.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:13 am

Amsterdam wrote:
No
Lesson 1 of emergency landings is dont get people on the ground in danger
Its bad airmanship to kill people to save your own life
She was lucky she didnt kill some people

That seems to be lesson no. 2. ;)
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"Choose a landing area away from people or buildings" might be very difficult when flying above a large city like Los Angeles. Maybe better not fly there at all?

P.S. Your sentences are still lacking points.
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:10 am

I once knew a man who always, always, smelled like fish. Once saved his life by alerting him of smoke in his apartment....because every life is worth saving...
 
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:44 am

Is it not possible the passenger boarded fine then soiled himself in flight? I’m not sure if I would vomit myself but I did sit next to a young man traveling with family over the pond on Virgin, in upper class. After take off this young man laid on his stomach the entire 7 hours and for the entire 7 hours passed waves and waves of noxious gasses and everyone around had to tie napkin masks that didn’t work. About 12 of us had to skip eating. By the time we all realized that this was NOT just a few stink bombs but a serious gastric problem that was not going to stop- we were over the Atlantic. People spoke to the FAs but nothing could be done, the flight was full.
I cannot ever fly Virgin Atlantic ever again because it was singularly one of the most unbearable experiences of my life. I realize it wasn’t Virgin’s fault, but like “Pavlov’s Dogs” it will stay with me forever and I think of it even when I see a Virgin ad.
I think landing the plane was exactly the right thing to do and because there was no option for us.
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Re: Unbearable stench from passenger causes emergency landing

Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:22 pm

So what should airlines do, be required to screen out persons from boarding with extreme body odor or flatulence ? What would be the standard ? I bet that would lead to serious clashes likely leading to police being called in and in the USA lawsuits over discrimination, violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ACA).
Sadly, there are some people and those from some cultures who don't bathe enough. Some may be on some long flights or early or late flight times, delayed for an extended time, didn't have the time to shower or had not done so in many hours. Some have medical conditions like allergies that limit their ability to use deodorant or most soaps. Then some may have long or short term intestinal conditions that cause excessive flatulence (and on a plane could be worse due to pressurization changes), ate different food than usual, caught some intestinal tract bug, maybe using a drug that caused such side effects to their body odor.
In the OP's case, this had to be so bad that a diversion was the only way to deal with it. Hopefully the person is ok or if had a problem, gets it treated.

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