tphuang wrote:Terrible for competition to have the two largest players in the North America to china market in jv.
longhauler wrote:tphuang wrote:Terrible for competition to have the two largest players in the North America to china market in jv.
I am not sure how "terrible" it is, but AC has been applying for new service to China for years and has been flatly denied by the Chinese ... while there are now 10 Chinese carriers flying to Canada!
Clearly, someone in Montreal has decided that the only way to beat them is to join them.
tphuang wrote:As for denied by Chinese, which amazing high yielding opportunities are they getting denied for?
longhauler wrote:tphuang wrote:As for denied by Chinese, which amazing high yielding opportunities are they getting denied for?
I think the funniest example is when a few years ago, Air Canada applied for YYC-PEK and YUL-PEK and was denied. Then ... gosh gee whiz ... six months later, the Chinese announce their intentions to fly ... get this ... YYC-PEK and YUL-PEK.
I think the world knows one will never win against the Chinese. So ... best to join them as soon as possible.
tphuang wrote:So basically all low yielding routes that they are not really losIng out on
longhauler wrote:tphuang wrote:So basically all low yielding routes that they are not really losIng out on
Well, that's really my point. You started this discussion stating that competition would suffer, when as you yourself state, they are "low yielding", thus ... the best fares across the Pacific. You think that is going to change?
Of course not. AC with only 4 flights a day from Canada to China, combining with Air China who is under the "one carrier, one route" Chinese rule, doesn't sound like a big dent in the market.
What may change though is Air Canada feeding Air China on this end and v.v. on the other end. That can only be good for the traveller.
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