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Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:06 pm

Once AA quits on Dec 19, will no airline be serving MIA-IAD? Two majors, hub at each end, quite surprising. I wonder if UA will pick this up since AA is leaving.
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:12 pm

AA will remain on the route, they are only dropping a daily American Eagle frequency.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:47 pm

It is surprising that UA has 5 or more EWR-MIA flights and none from IAD. EWR-FLL has about 8 daily flights but IAD-FLL has 2 flights. EWR tends to be O/D based and it is amazing how much more O/D exists to Florida from EWR than IAD for UA. AA dominates the Washington DC to Miami market with many flights from DCA.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:58 pm

elmothehobo wrote:
AA will remain on the route, they are only dropping a daily American Eagle frequency.


There are only 1 stops available for sale on AA from 12/21 through the end of their loaded schedule in May 2019, where are you getting that there will still be non-stops? There are still 4 daily IAD-FLL though on UA and WN.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:48 am

Has Frontier stopped flying MIA-IAD?

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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:57 am

WkndWanderer wrote:
elmothehobo wrote:
AA will remain on the route, they are only dropping a daily American Eagle frequency.


There are only 1 stops available for sale on AA from 12/21 through the end of their loaded schedule in May 2019, where are you getting that there will still be non-stops? There are still 4 daily IAD-FLL though on UA and WN.


Looks like I stand (very) corrected. The 2x daily run until the 18th and they both drop simultaneously.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:23 am

mariner wrote:
Has Frontier stopped flying MIA-IAD?

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I looked on F9 website...didn't see it. Checked Flightaware...didn't see it. Did see some Swift Air flights
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:53 am

I bet Frontier starts it back up.
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:07 am

MAH4546 wrote:
I bet Frontier starts it back up.


Yeh, I must have missed that. Here's to a re-start. LOL.

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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:08 am

727LOVER wrote:
mariner wrote:
Has Frontier stopped flying MIA-IAD?

mariner


I looked on F9 website...didn't see it. Checked Flightaware...didn't see it. Did see some Swift Air flights


Judging by the flight numbers, the Swift Air flights are ferries.

It’s hard to tell what routes Frontier keeps anymore so I don’t know if MIA-IAD was dropped seasonally or for good.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:20 am

Newbiepilot wrote:
It is surprising that UA has 5 or more EWR-MIA flights and none from IAD. EWR-FLL has about 8 daily flights but IAD-FLL has 2 flights. EWR tends to be O/D based and it is amazing how much more O/D exists to Florida from EWR than IAD for UA. AA dominates the Washington DC to Miami market with many flights from DCA.


IAD has historically not had the same service levels to Florida as other Northeast airports like PHL, EWR, JFK, LGA and BOS. When I lived in Fairfax County in 1986 and we wanted to travel to Florida, TPA or MCO, we would most times fly New York Air, who had a somewhat hub at IAD, to EWR and connect to a Florida flight. Sometimes we flew nonstop, but it was always from DCA. Even Eastern, who dominated Northeast-Florida, pretty much avoided IAD for most of it's existence except a couple years here and there that they did fly to IAD (from ATL).
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:08 pm

The go-to airport for S. Florida service from the D.C region is DCA. AA has on average 9 flights a day on DCA-MIA and WN and B6 also have sizable DCA-FLL operations
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:23 pm

IAD is the JFK of 20 years ago. Or the MXP of today.

To fix that, they need a LCC to start a large operation there. Then, and only then, will UA match domestic (in DCA perimeter) service to its hub
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:31 pm

IAD-Florida is pretty anemic on the whole.

Outside of MIA, today there's:
IAD-MCO - UA x4 320/737, WN x 1 737
IAD-TPA - UA x3 737
IAD-FLL - UA x2 737, WN x1 737
IAD-JAX - UAX x3 CR7/E45

Granted, it's not peak season to FL, but it's pretty incredible how almost all the traffic flows out of DCA and BWI.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:53 pm

axiom wrote:
IAD-Florida is pretty anemic on the whole.

Outside of MIA, today there's:
IAD-MCO - UA x4 320/737, WN x 1 737
IAD-TPA - UA x3 737
IAD-FLL - UA x2 737, WN x1 737
IAD-JAX - UAX x3 CR7/E45

Granted, it's not peak season to FL, but it's pretty incredible how almost all the traffic flows out of DCA and BWI.


F9 is also on IAD-MCO 3x weekly on an A320
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:13 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
It is surprising that UA has 5 or more EWR-MIA flights and none from IAD. EWR-FLL has about 8 daily flights but IAD-FLL has 2 flights. EWR tends to be O/D based and it is amazing how much more O/D exists to Florida from EWR than IAD for UA. AA dominates the Washington DC to Miami market with many flights from DCA.
Yes. It's quite odd that UA not even has a daily (seasonal, regional jet) MIA flight to feed its and Star Alliance's (international) flights out of IAD.
Back in the UA MIA hub days, there's was an scheduled IAD-MIA-IAD and its major propose was to feed UA flights on both airports.
BTW, with AV and CM flights at MIA, UA could even somewhat manage feed (regional jet) UA MIA-IAD flight.
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:17 pm

F9LASDEN wrote:
axiom wrote:
IAD-Florida is pretty anemic on the whole.

Outside of MIA, today there's:
IAD-MCO - UA x4 320/737, WN x 1 737
IAD-TPA - UA x3 737
IAD-FLL - UA x2 737, WN x1 737
IAD-JAX - UAX x3 CR7/E45

Granted, it's not peak season to FL, but it's pretty incredible how almost all the traffic flows out of DCA and BWI.


F9 is also on IAD-MCO 3x weekly on an A320


Key word: today. But yes, there's that.
 
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Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:23 pm

axiom wrote:
F9LASDEN wrote:
axiom wrote:
IAD-Florida is pretty anemic on the whole.

Outside of MIA, today there's:
IAD-MCO - UA x4 320/737, WN x 1 737
IAD-TPA - UA x3 737
IAD-FLL - UA x2 737, WN x1 737
IAD-JAX - UAX x3 CR7/E45

Granted, it's not peak season to FL, but it's pretty incredible how almost all the traffic flows out of DCA and BWI.


F9 is also on IAD-MCO 3x weekly on an A320


Key word: today. But yes, there's that.


Ah. Didn’t notice you were talking about today only.
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